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Jan 29, 2021 9:11 AM
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davidyodo24 said:
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I'm an anime only...I wanted to know about that one scene when isabella agreed to chase children again after the demon persuading her with sth in ep 4...so...is this eventually going to happen in the manga or it is just anime thingy? I'm okay with minor spoilers that answer might have...tho plz try to spoil as less as possible...thanks!

Please don't ask spoiler on here...
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awww......lol sry...i thought someone could just say either yes or no abt that...and btw u can hide texts under spoiler tags right?...Anyways sorry T T
Jan 29, 2021 9:30 AM

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manga reader be like : goldy pond is one of the best arc why they skip it ? after goldy pond its boring and predictable.
ok maybe they will change it and this time they will do it in a way so its unpredictable and actually good.
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EverNight said:
davidyodo24 said:

Please don't ask spoiler on here...
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awww......lol sry...i thought someone could just say either yes or no abt that...and btw u can hide texts under spoiler tags right?...Anyways sorry T T

Ahh yeah you are right...
But I'm just afraid people might forget to out the tag...
Jan 29, 2021 9:59 AM

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Man I can't take these 180 drift in emotions in a single fucking episode!! The wholesomeness in the first half totally felt like I was rewatching Yuru camp😍, albeit in more fantasy-type world, only for them to be busted by those soldiers from the farm in the second half😭. Plus with the return of "mommy" Isabella, it sure looks things are about to get nastier..😨

Jan 29, 2021 10:22 AM

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Marinate1016 said:
Yea, somehow they’ve managed to make shit even worse with these manga changes. This and Goldy pond were the best parts of the manga. There was no need to cut out Yuugo and change this arc. Now granted they could rearrange appearances and bring him in later, but.. I doubt it’ll pan out well.

As someone who was constantly talking to people in the manga discussion threads week after week about how far the series fell, I was at least expecting season 2 to retain some of that original magic.. I’ll give them a chance, but it’s not looking likely. Shame. I’m pissed man. This used to be one of my fave series.


I'm an anime-only and I honestly don't get this hate, even if the anime decides to completely exclude this Yuugo character but still manages to present us with a different and gripping storyline than the manga one till the end, is there a problem with that??

Jan 29, 2021 10:27 AM

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The manga didn't have solders attack? Because what just happened was awful.

The manga also had soldiers attacking that base but it happened way later, the anime skipped like 1.5 (or 2) arcs and went straight for the soldiers attacking scene. In the manga it was pretty bad, some people may have liked that crap but I certainly didn't, that being said, in the anime this soldier scene is even worse because it came out of nowhere.

In the manga that scene at least had some development surrounding it, the anime didn't have development at all so the anime is already looking even worse than the manga.


Well rip guess there is not much faith to be had in the manga as well.
Jan 29, 2021 10:37 AM
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I haven't read the manga yet but I think the characters have too much plot armour I mean none of them are hurt from the trained soldiers just makes it seem like there's no stakes
Jan 29, 2021 11:50 AM

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50 chapters were skipped? Damn.
Jan 29, 2021 12:00 PM
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Even outside of the anime changes. That raid was so fucking pathetic lmao. Holy shit the lack of tension reminds me of the manga near the end. This is going to be a whimper of a season at this rate
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EXCALIBUR_843 said:
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Yea, somehow they’ve managed to make shit even worse with these manga changes. This and Goldy pond were the best parts of the manga. There was no need to cut out Yuugo and change this arc. Now granted they could rearrange appearances and bring him in later, but.. I doubt it’ll pan out well.

As someone who was constantly talking to people in the manga discussion threads week after week about how far the series fell, I was at least expecting season 2 to retain some of that original magic.. I’ll give them a chance, but it’s not looking likely. Shame. I’m pissed man. This used to be one of my fave series.


I'm an anime-only and I honestly don't get this hate, even if the anime decides to completely exclude this Yuugo character but still manages to present us with a different and gripping storyline than the manga one till the end, is there a problem with that??


You're right, there wouldn't be any problem with that IF that's what happens. The problem is, is that "presenting us a different and gripping storyline" is really not very likely to happen. I assume we all hope that will happen, but the anime industry does not have a good track record when it comes to this kind of thing. Most anime that cut out/change large amounts of from their manga in their adaptation are not received well and viewed as inferior. Examples: Fullmetal Alchemist, Tokyo Ghoul Root A, Berserk, Deadman Wonderland, Original Fruits Basket, etc. etc. Now tell me, what is an example of an acclaimed manga that becomes adapted, the story is largely changed, and people actually think the story is good or better than the original? It's much harder to come up with examples of that. Sure, this season of The Promised Neverland might still be good. But judging on that last episode, my hopes are not high.
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Jan 29, 2021 12:26 PM

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Well, even as an anime-only, this was plainly rushed and was nothing short of a terrible episode all around. First off, the ominous room ends up coming to absolutely nothing, not even being mentioned to Emma and Ray nor being in any way relevant to the reality of William Minerva. Then the show decides to foreshadow an attack on the bunker literally one scene before it happens, making it feel incredibly rushed and making me wonder what purpose this entire series of events even served besides gaining another bread crumb of a clue from Minerva; if this scene had been at the start of the episode, before we got to see the kids enjoying some time in the bunker (a time period of apparently just a few days, no less), it would have felt less rushed and better set the mood for the rest of the episode.

Beyond that, I really don't see why the show is bringing Isabella back into things at this point; she's served her purpose and bringing her back only bogs this whole thing down even more. Let's also ignore the demon ex machina that allowed the kids to escape from the soldiers for Isabella to be made necessary at all.

This is such a humungous disappointment after the excellent season 1, and it feels like it's only going to get even worse from here on out.
Jan 29, 2021 12:32 PM

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I don't understand how anime onlys are happy about an anime going a completely different route from the source material when 90% of anime that did that ended in a hot jumble mess of a plot. It's not like manga readers are just bitching about a minute thing. Also yall holding on that statement that tge author is supervising the anime when I don't think she would agreed about completely deleting a major character that served a big purpose and development to the story. Yall just waiting a disaster to happen.
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EXCALIBUR_843 said:
Marinate1016 said:
Yea, somehow they’ve managed to make shit even worse with these manga changes. This and Goldy pond were the best parts of the manga. There was no need to cut out Yuugo and change this arc. Now granted they could rearrange appearances and bring him in later, but.. I doubt it’ll pan out well.

As someone who was constantly talking to people in the manga discussion threads week after week about how far the series fell, I was at least expecting season 2 to retain some of that original magic.. I’ll give them a chance, but it’s not looking likely. Shame. I’m pissed man. This used to be one of my fave series.


I'm an anime-only and I honestly don't get this hate, even if the anime decides to completely exclude this Yuugo character but still manages to present us with a different and gripping storyline than the manga one till the end, is there a problem with that??


The problem is: they excluded 2 great arcs of the manga. It is really hard to think somehow they will make something better out of this, in this rushed pace that the anime is going.
Jan 29, 2021 12:56 PM

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i havent even watched the episode but reading the forum

Introduced differently, we shall see. If you see the names on the wall inside of the room, then it's a chance of foreshadowing.


yup i just watched it

i see lucas' name but i didn't see yuugo's - i might've misread it

surprised to see isabella this early on though, the reveal later would've been nicer
Jan 29, 2021 1:38 PM

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Even I can tell that the story is being butchered here lol and I have negative IQ
Jan 29, 2021 1:59 PM

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The show is now boring to be honest. Not showing Yuugo and Goldy Pond arc watching this anime is such a waste of time.
Jan 29, 2021 2:03 PM

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umjis said:
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Introduced differently, we shall see. If you see the names on the wall inside of the room, then it's a chance of foreshadowing.


yup i just watched it

i see lucas' name but i didn't see yuugo's - i might've misread it

surprised to see isabella this early on though, the reveal later would've been nicer
I am surprised as you are about Isabella's sudden reveal.

Mister's name wasn't shown, but at least we saw his message in that journal, so there is a chance he might show up.
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Jan 29, 2021 2:38 PM
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Now we are back where we started
Jan 29, 2021 3:08 PM
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Ok guys it was a pleasure to have followed this anime up to here but I have to get off the ship because this is sinking and it is becoming totally disappointing, those who only watch anime enjoy it but I warn those who are happy that it is different is not That they are creating a totally original story so far they are only cutting sagas and characters and anticipating facts, simplifying everything outside of this there is nothing new for which I would not be so happy.

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As a manga reader I have so many things to say... but I'll just say:

THE PROBLEM IS NOT THE ANIME ORIGINAL ... THE PROBLEM IS THE BAD WRITING OF THIS RUSHED EPISODE.
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They removed one of the best arcs and one of the best characters (and probably the other great characters that come with this arc). I hate this I hate this
Jan 29, 2021 3:32 PM
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I haven't read the manga yet but I think the characters have too much plot armour I mean none of them are hurt from the trained soldiers just makes it seem like there's no stakes


That's why the manga is better, this part had many more characters and the whole flight from the bunker was much more tragic, here they are only softening things and making everything more pink for the children.
Jan 29, 2021 3:36 PM
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Nik03178 said:

At least we got to read an incredible story and you will get to see this crap. They skipped one of the best antagonist in the series and THE best arc of the story. You still have time, stop watching the anime and go and read the manga if you want to experience the promised Neverland in the best way.

Nope, i will read it later after the Anime is finished...
Why would i stop watching the Anime, just because of "Anime Original" that will be supervisor by the Author himself lol
As i said, I'm glad to have a blind Experience into the Anime, i can enjoying the Anime for what is was...

Must be sucks to know all the story before watching it, no surprise at all..


This is not an original anime all this happens in the manga but much later and with more characters, they are just simplifying things and making everything easier for children is totally disappointing
Jan 29, 2021 3:37 PM

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EverNight said:
I'm an anime only...I wanted to know about that one scene when isabella agreed to chase children again after the demon persuading her with sth in ep 4...so...is this eventually going to happen in the manga or it is just anime thingy? I'm okay with minor spoilers that answer might have...tho plz try to spoil as less as possible...thanks!


not major spoilers but tags just for others who might see

Jan 29, 2021 3:38 PM

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From what I've gathered, the manga fell off and was rushed near the end, so I don't mind the originally adaptation, especially with the overview of the author.

That being said, the show feels all over the place right now. Maybe we'll get more clarity as more episodes come out.

This was still a good episode though. Some parts felt jarring, but I still enjoyed it. I'm looking forward to next week.
Jan 29, 2021 3:39 PM
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Marinate1016 said:
Yea, somehow they’ve managed to make shit even worse with these manga changes. This and Goldy pond were the best parts of the manga. There was no need to cut out Yuugo and change this arc. Now granted they could rearrange appearances and bring him in later, but.. I doubt it’ll pan out well.

As someone who was constantly talking to people in the manga discussion threads week after week about how far the series fell, I was at least expecting season 2 to retain some of that original magic.. I’ll give them a chance, but it’s not looking likely. Shame. I’m pissed man. This used to be one of my fave series.


I'm an anime-only and I honestly don't get this hate, even if the anime decides to completely exclude this Yuugo character but still manages to present us with a different and gripping storyline than the manga one till the end, is there a problem with that??


Yes, the story is not different, it is the same with fewer characters, with fewer sagas and with less of everything that the manga had changing some things but it gives the sense that they are only cutting to get to the end quickly .
Jan 29, 2021 3:41 PM

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And just like that they are gone from the shelter. I guess that's to be expected with them cutting like half the fucking manga or whatever. Tbh idk what I expected with how butchered the first season was jamming 37 chapters in 12 episodes. So yeah feels pretty fast.

How did these goons find this place again? And a bomb??? You knew where the entrance was and you thought a bomb would be the best way to open the door? I guess it would be too hard to bs a way for the kids the escape if they used any tactics. They still managed to be waiting in the correct place, but of course random demon shows up and specifically eats all the adults. Which btw apparently forgot they were holding guns. But I mean it didn't matter anyway cause apparently that demon is immune to bullets. Good thing one arrow to the dome is all it takes for it's head to implode tho.
Jan 29, 2021 3:42 PM

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1. If this were Made In Abyss, they would have eaten the fish raw, they would have been poisonous, and would have made everyone piss themselves.

2. The level of plot armor so far is really obnoxious.
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Jan 29, 2021 4:23 PM
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I'm not a manga reader, but even I can tell this shit is really feeling rushed. Apparently there are 2 awesome arcs being left out, and I can physically feel it when watching. Lmao. Things are just constantly pushing, pushing, pushing, and this point it's really just the animation carrying season 2.

I'm hoping an OVA or something comes out because I would've liked to see more of their time in the shelther. Realistically I can understand skipping arcs and straight to the soldiers since the base's whereabouts were already known.. so at least it's logical, just insanely rushed feeling.

I can really only seeing it going downhill from here
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Pls guys, where can i find memes about TPN?

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Bow > assault rifle.
Child > soldier.
Anime > manga.


LOL best comment


Jan 29, 2021 5:38 PM

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but why are they making everything go so fast, the pacing needs to slow down a bit
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Jan 29, 2021 5:47 PM

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That was incredibly underwhelming.
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umjis said:
EverNight said:
I'm an anime only...I wanted to know about that one scene when isabella agreed to chase children again after the demon persuading her with sth in ep 4...so...is this eventually going to happen in the manga or it is just anime thingy? I'm okay with minor spoilers that answer might have...tho plz try to spoil as less as possible...thanks!


not major spoilers but tags just for others who might see

thanks!...I just disliked how she is again going to hunt the children after all that development in S1 and wanted to know if the same thing happens in the manga lol...thanks again
Jan 29, 2021 6:58 PM

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Rewriting the story and making big changes when writing an adaptation is fine, but for this story in particular it wasn't something I personally wanted or needed.

From previous experience original anime storylines when going in their own direction from a manga usually ends them in convoluted territory or simplified and boring territory.

Not looking forward to the rest.
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Jan 29, 2021 7:30 PM
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I'm honestly getting tired of hearing the manga folks complain. I get it, you are upset that a manga you like is not getting the adaptation it deserves, but for goodness sake, stop beating a dead horse already. This topic is for Episode 4 Discussion, go make you're own topic for "Manga x Anime" discussion.

As for the episode itself, it took a dip in quality in my opinion. Some scenes felt unnecessarily stretched, the whole cliffhanger from Episode 3 got resolved immediately and even the visuals faltered. This is the first episode so far where I haven't been charmed by a beautiful scene, drawing-wise. I hope it will pick up the pace for the next few episodes. I couldn't care less about not following the manga, as long as the story is good, and for that we'll have to wait and see.
Jan 29, 2021 7:53 PM
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Somehow this episode felt like a let down. The story had progressed and now in the blink of an eye or rather in 15 minutes... we are back in the forest with everyone chasing the kids. This reminds me of an old TV show called The Fugitive. Every episode had Dr Kimball on the run at the end. I can't speak to Anime vs Manga since I have never read the manga. Oh well.....complain or not......we can watch it or not. I will continue to watch it and hope for and interesting episode.
Jan 29, 2021 7:59 PM

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ANIME EPISODE 4 SPOILERS AND MINOR AOT SPOILERS DONT ASK WHY










so we are not gonna talk about the help written in blood? okay.
anyways theory:
norman is the demon that ate the like soldiers or whatever. it could be because ive watched a bit too much attack on titan and im thinking of eren but whatever whatever. why would norman be in the intro if he didnt play some sort of role?
and i dont understand why people hate this episode, episode 2 is still the best but this was alright. im anime only
Jan 29, 2021 8:02 PM
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Anime only here: this ep was painfully mediocre. The HELP messages in the chamber were supposedly a big twist and yet none of them seemed to care about it. They weren't mentioned ever again. It was such an anti-climax. Then the plot armor of how the demon just appeared at the right time to eat the guards??! Also how did the humans find them so fast? I thought the base was like a top-secret thing.

I don't mind Isabella's reappearance. I think she was interesting, and would love to see her again.
Jan 29, 2021 8:22 PM
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Dropped. Why would they remove possibly the best character in this show, and arguably one of the best arcs following the first arc. Screw this
Jan 29, 2021 8:31 PM

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Damn, this is Tokyo Ghoul √A all over again.
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Jan 29, 2021 8:55 PM

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Emma: "we just want a normal life like everyone else".
The HUMAN pursuer: "You never had any of that to begin with".

I thought the men were there to help them, but that was shocking and heartbreaking at the same time
Jan 29, 2021 10:04 PM

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Man I fell off the manga around the point they left the base for the first time towards I assume this Goldy Pond arc so I am basically anime only from this point on and....

This episode was kind of crap. The soldiers were both random and incompetent, a deadly combo. We have no faith in introducing a new antagonist for our bold new, anime original plotline so we will just bring back the antagonist of the first arc. And we waste half the episode doing nothing
Jan 29, 2021 10:06 PM

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for real they skipped over the goldy pond arc?? at this point they’re just probably gonna try to adapt the entire manga in a season...
mate as well, what the fuck is this show turning into, i dont need to see the kids eating fish (last episode there was the bath scene like wtf). s1 ep4 already had that incredible plot twist about ray that got me personally hooked to the show. then there’s isabella, so my guess they’ll probably use isabella as the antagonist for this season again instead of people like
another thing that i found stupid was the raid, they had guns and fucking lost to a bow especially a bunch of kids...didnt the demon mentioned that to capture the premium quality children (emma and ray) and just dont give a fuck about the others, so why arent they shooting. i know its a shounen and they wont just kill all the kids u know but at least attempt to...shoot and miss or sth (they didnt shoot one bullet towards them) one more thing
for now ill just wait to see how the entire season turns out.
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Harrible episode not expected , they skip two volumes from manga and it’s important details from my opinion and great story . Its very jumping from the original of manga , if its not finished maybe i will expect that but the manga finished why they didnt follow it like season 1 bad episode will see next . Always read the manga is better
Jan 29, 2021 11:46 PM
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I have completed the manga and loved it and then the episode didn't go as I expected it to so I was disappointed, but pls don't hate it until seeing how the story progresses from now,

I don't think people should judge until the last episode comes.

Also sorry for my bad English, it is not my first language
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Very disappointed that this had cut out goldy pond and Yuugo which in my opinion was the best arc of the manga. I wonder if they’ll cut out even more of those characters or they’ll rejoin later?
Jan 30, 2021 2:29 AM
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No wonder the special ops lost to a bunch of barbaric monsters with shitty swords, their guns are worse than fucking makeshift bows and arrows and they carry gas masks into an operation against a bunch of preschoolers
Jan 30, 2021 2:48 AM

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This is garbage. Absolute garbage. Fuck Cloverworks
Jan 30, 2021 3:38 AM
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The shelter has been compromised. How did they know where exactly there was? Also, soldiers wearing army uniforms are here to hunt them down but they are eaten by the huge demon… Also, SHE is going to have a chance to catch all the kids once again… hoping she joins forces. Not a lot of demon interaction this episode.
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I'm not sure how to feel about this season. One on hand I am excited to see Isabella back but on the other hand I feel like CloverWorks is being too risky. The manga already has a really good story, and I don't see why they want to change that. Hopefully it's gonna be a good change.
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