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| Not because of the stupid criticism of false moralists of the politically correct, but I am very sad, because the adaptation was extremely inferior to the manga. A lot of cuts, a lot of changes, a lot of censorship, a very compressed story, an inadequate pace, designs below the manga. I have no problem that adaptations change parts, on the contrary I think that they need to change for several reasons, but that they change for the better and not for something much worse. I literally cried with sadness seeing this anime, because even though it was a good anime, but it was a lost ten. When did people start killing because there are animes, games, or movies that have violence? I don't see that revenge in this anime will make people become vindictive. Certain themes need to be reflected. Moreover, it is still too early to say what moral reflection the work will have at its end. It is necessary to have a very firm position to count the censorship. Whoever does not want to watch ok is in their right, but do not try to impose these false moralisms on others. Especially because many of those who say they are scandalized are very intolerant and vindictive people. We call vengeance justice when it is done by God, or by the state. But when is the state the author of injustice, or those who dominate the state, in that case would it be morally right to maintain a monopoly on revenge precisely to those who are excreting serious and notorious injustices? So Kaifuku is an anime that makes you think beyond what little children are capable of seeing. It must also be said that the anime is doing a terrible job of directing, by very much softening the bad things that the protagonist has suffered from, and by wanting to make the protagonist's enemies a lot nicer than they are in relation to the manga. This obviously compromises empathy for the protagonist, and understanding of his cause. |
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on Tiago_Vaz_007 said: Not because of the stupid criticism of false moralists of the politically correct, but I am very sad, because the adaptation was extremely inferior to the manga. A lot of cuts, a lot of changes, a lot of censorship, a very compressed story, an inadequate pace, designs below the manga. I have no problem that adaptations change parts, on the contrary I think that they need to change for several reasons, but that they change for the better and not for something much worse. I literally cried with sadness seeing this anime, because even though it was a good anime, but it was a lost ten. When did people start killing because there are animes, games, or movies that have violence? I don't see that revenge in this anime will make people become vindictive. Certain themes need to be reflected. Moreover, it is still too early to say what moral reflection the work will have at its end. It is necessary to have a very firm position to count the censorship. Whoever does not want to watch ok is in their right, but do not try to impose these false moralisms on others. Especially because many of those who say they are scandalized are very intolerant and vindictive people. We call vengeance justice when it is done by God, or by the state. But when is the state the author of injustice, or those who dominate the state, in that case would it be morally right to maintain a monopoly on revenge precisely to those who are excreting serious and notorious injustices? So Kaifuku is an anime that makes you think beyond what little children are capable of seeing. It must also be said that the anime is doing a terrible job of directing, by very much softening the bad things that the protagonist has suffered from, and by wanting to make the protagonist's enemies a lot nicer than they are in relation to the manga. This obviously compromises empathy for the protagonist, and understanding of his cause. Ayo thinking rape fantasies are weird is party poo-poo moralist mode AYO now I know !!  |
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| I watched this episode just because I like indulging in Twitter rage every now and then. However, the entire thing is just so on the nose that it feels pointless. Calling this misogynistic piece of garbage is not a hot take, just a fact. Anyone who denies that is just delusional, so it doesn't make for a good argument. From what I see, the only reason anyone would ever watch this would be to get off if they're into that... but in that case you should just watch a hentai. I wish I had watched the censored version so it would at least have the entertainment value of seeing how ridiculous the censorship gets. Without that, the show is just boring. |
Kayleon said: FFCreations said: Well no, no double standard at all actually. What many people fail to understand is the actual writing that goes behind their action. Redo does it the most poorly (BY FAR) out of those you mentioned. Redo basically just skims over his life like "Yeah these people did cartoonishly evil things to you, you are fully justified to do whatever you want now" and it just turns into extremely edgy revenge porn power fantasy. Death Note for instance actually gives proper time to establish Light as a character. And he doesn't turn into a raging murdering psychopath the second he picks up the book either. We learn about his motives. His principles and morals. They explore how the murders actually affects him as a person. And as for Attack on Titan. Well I actually think Eren is a poorly written character (and AoT as a whole) so I do believe his mass murdering is dumb as shit too. But at the very least, put next to Redo, it's a masterpiece. Because once again, we follow Eren as a character. We find out his motives, morals and principles. Redo of Healer gives the absolute bare minimum of exposition so that they can as cheaply as possible make the MC "sympathetic". And then they jump as quickly as possible into the thing people want to wank off to. The revenge porn. But it just doesn't work. And then they just add onto the bad things that happened to him with flashback (the cheapest writer's tool in the book). It's so poorly made that you end up not feeling for the MC one bit. He's just a cardboard cutout that people can self insert themselves into to live out their power fantasy. And that's exactly why Redo comes off as distasteful, because it's made purely for shock. Not to advance or tell a story where these elements are a necessity. It's murder for murder's sake. It's torture for torture's sake. It's rape for rape's sake. It works very well, we don't need to see the MC getting owned for one season before he takes action, this is not Re:Zero. Go back to where you belong SJW. And this is exactly why one can't help themselves and just laugh at the people in this thread. Criticism does not equal hate. Disliking the series does not equal being SJW. And it's pretty embarrassing that people just dismiss each and every criticism by putting them under the umbrella of being a "hater", "troll" or "SJW". Seeing the same bandwagon of people repeating "Can't wait for Twitter to lose their minds" or "These damn SJWs are trying to ruin our porn", like a broken record. As if they don't have an original opinion and just echo whatever their favorite anime Youtuber says. They are much more cringey than the people they attempt to mock. I have no problem with what they depict in the anime. Nor do I believe we should ban/censor it. I just think that it's an extremely bad anime. |
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FFCreations said: Kayleon said: It works very well, we don't need to see the MC getting owned for one season before he takes action, this is not Re:Zero. Go back to where you belong SJW. And this is exactly why one can't help themselves and just laugh at the people in this thread. Criticism does not equal hate. Disliking the series does not equal being SJW. And it's pretty embarrassing that people just dismiss each and every criticism by putting them under the umbrella of being a "hater", "troll" or "SJW". Seeing the same bandwagon of people repeating "Can't wait for Twitter to lose their minds" or "These damn SJWs are trying to ruin our porn", like a broken record. As if they don't have an original opinion and just echo whatever their favorite anime Youtuber says. They are much more cringey than the people they attempt to mock. I have no problem with what they depict in the anime. Nor do I believe we should ban/censor it. I just think that it's an extremely bad anime. And those of us who like the anime are put under the umbrella of being "incels" or "edgelords", so it works both ways. I am fine with criticism (I said nothing about your remark on AoT despite being one of my favourites at the moment) but you are taking way too seriously an anime that is supposed to be seen as pure entertainement. This anime has never pretended to be the next code geass or whatever, and so far every criticism I see is over the top. |
| so, the long awaited revenge against Flare is finally here after... 1.5 episode XD not even the effort of using every single scene of her on those 30 min of anime to scream "look how evil and detestable I am, hate me" can make this stupid revenge feel "satisfactory" ps; the Deus-Ex healing is so stupid XDDDD |
Kayleon said: FFCreations said: And this is exactly why one can't help themselves and just laugh at the people in this thread. Criticism does not equal hate. Disliking the series does not equal being SJW. And it's pretty embarrassing that people just dismiss each and every criticism by putting them under the umbrella of being a "hater", "troll" or "SJW". Seeing the same bandwagon of people repeating "Can't wait for Twitter to lose their minds" or "These damn SJWs are trying to ruin our porn", like a broken record. As if they don't have an original opinion and just echo whatever their favorite anime Youtuber says. They are much more cringey than the people they attempt to mock. I have no problem with what they depict in the anime. Nor do I believe we should ban/censor it. I just think that it's an extremely bad anime. And those of us who like the anime are put under the umbrella of being "incels" or "edgelords", so it works both ways. I am fine with criticism (I said nothing about your remark on AoT despite being one of my favourites at the moment) but you are taking way too seriously an anime that is supposed to be seen as pure entertainement. This anime has never pretended to be the next code geass or whatever, and so far every criticism I see is over the top. Yeah it for sure does work both ways. But did I exhibit any behavior that made it seem like I was a SJW? No, I simply criticized the show. Yet you immediately just swept me, one who is critical of the show, under the umbrella as a SJW. You say you are fine with criticism. Yet you dismiss those who give it? That seems contradictory. And yes, basically every anime in existence is made for "pure entertainment". I am criticizing it as a piece of entertainment. Not an attack on our society. And my criticism was in response to someone who thought it was hypocritical to say something like Death Note is a masterpiece despite the MC murdering innocent people. But think Redo of Healer is garbage. So of course the argument would be over the top in criticism towards Redo, since their level of writing is so far apart. |
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| Truly this is aoty, first part pretty gay with him getting banged by dudes even lol. Flare had it coming after all that shit and boy Keyaru sure delivered ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
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| 💀 y’all hyping this show up but you all know you’re not gonna remember this show in 2 years or maybe less, this is gonna blow by like all the anime like this that have been hyped up. Mod Edit: Removed baiting. |
KuniiJan 22, 2021 7:00 PM
| Not gonna lie, I enjoyed this episode way more than I initially thought I would. |
  死神 ❝What do you think are the most important things in life? Money, dreams, sympathy towards others... Yes, they're all important things as well... But the most important thing is responsibility for your own actions.❞ - Yuichi |
| This story is basically a hentai now. |
| Y'all, okay. I watched both episodes because of The Discourse and I have a few opinions. First off, this is reductive as hell. Clearly the author read Shield Hero and thought "I wanna do that but with more rape". The premise is bland as hell, all the generic anime fantasy RPG-lite tropes are present with the slight upside that it's not an isekai. Good job Redo of Healer, you're not an isekai. Gold star for that. In terms of production this is very mediocre. The art is whatever when tits aren't the focus and the animation is clearly low budget. Secondly, and call me an ess jay double you if you really really want, but it's a fact that this is misogynist as fuck. Now, that a female character gets tortured and raped on screen itself doesn't NECESSARILY mean it HAS to be tasteless and irredeemably misogynistic. It's really hard to make that tasteful, sure, but this is very not that. Simply because Flare is basically the only well animated thing in this episode. Her torment was specifically made to be sexy and you're supposed to look at MC guy and say wow what a chad fuckin all those bitches I wish I could do this cool thing too. Speaking of his own rape, those scenes all focused on the women and how busty and hot they were. All of this is meant to be arousing, except ofc when the dudes are doing the raping, then it gets to be shown as the repulsive act it is. This series doesn't take sexual assault seriously, it's purely there for titillation. And obviously, that's the point of this series. It's semi-hardcore revenge rape porn. That in itself makes it deeply unpleasant for a lot of people and is why I THINK it's not something to be celebrated. I can't really blame simulcasts for dropping this when there's less explicit and less ~problematique~ hentai out there. I've slagged off Berserk for having so much rape in it but even that allowed itself sympathetic perspectives and wasn't this gratuitously pandering. Now, I'm a big gay faggot so this was never meant for me and I only watched those first two episodes out of morbid curiosity. But if those of you who like this series can just take a look at it from a critical perspective and think about why exactly it appeals to you and perhaps even acknowledge that it's not coming from a very healthy perspective then that would be very cool of you. I don't think I'll be watching the rest of it. tl;dr stream chromatica |
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| Well that was an episode. BUT HOT DAME THAT REVENGE SCENE WAS SO GOOD. Not for the reasons that you may think but how good it felt for Flare to just feel a sliver of what Keyaru went through. I knew Flare would break when Keyaru broak her fingers and healed them to break them again. Then he did stuff and on top of that Keyaru erased Flare's memory and now she is his slave. I watched the the censored version first and it was almost unwatchable then i watched the uncensored version and that is when the i realized that the revenge scene was so good. This is probably my second favorite revenge scene next to Naofumi's revenge on Malty |
| This anime adaptation is doubly good just knowing there will be loads of butt hurt "woke" snowflakes literally crying because they have been raised and trained to never take action and stand for themselves nor have any thought or feeling that could possibly offend someone!... Oh the horror... Quite like the MC before he actually realize how the greater world actually works =) |
Losig777 said: The way you phrase it: yes it's not illogical per se, but every halfway normal person would not let himself get tortured ever again for SIX FRIGGIN MONTHS once more, but would instead scheme to avoid being tortured again in the very first place while also wanting revenge or only in the very worst case or as last resort get tortured. I'm not gonna buy that "there was no other way". Once you escape torture you never wanna go back there. I guess what you're really saying is MC just has willpower beyond your comprehension? Maybe you've just never been that angry before? Must be nice. |
| Lmao I've watched Hentai that were not as "good" (very subjective term here, based on a personal perception/opinion) as this episode I loved it, very satisfying yet very early. I find this show promising, and the tiny hype built around its reputation seems understandable |
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EternalDreamer said: This anime adaptation is doubly good just knowing there will be loads of butt hurt "woke" snowflakes literally crying because they have been raised and trained to never take action and stand for themselves nor have any thought or feeling that could possibly offend someone!... Oh the horror... Quite like the MC before he actually realize how the greater world actually works =) Hey, just a reminder, but the Joker is a villain. |
| Well that was an interesting episode. The first episode is tame compared to this episode. I did read the manga originally but still surprised what they kept in for the anime. Is this even an anime anymore? |
| It was more satisfying to watch than i expected, but the MC calling those powers "healing" was really dumb, not gonna lie. |
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TheDopealicious said: tzy_19 said: Hah you guys think this was bad? Its gonna get so, so, so, so much worse. Strap yourselves in, cuz you AINT SEEN NOTHING YET. Skimmed the manga earlier today, fell asleep, especially that weird semi vore gang bang zombie death lmao goofy ass shit. Twitter doesn't give a shit because this abomination hasn't been given a big platform like Goblin Slayer did on crunchy roll. Sorry boys and boys, looks like this anime will fade into oblivion Back to the show it's still garbage This is the most correct take. When I post on twitter about Redo of Healer, I have scores of people swarming my tweets trying to defend it. I've had a couple of people retweet my tweets saying "THIS IS IT! IT SNOWFLAKENING BEGINS!", expecting an avalanche of SJW comments to descend down from the heavens and multiple articles detailing how shit the show is. But they just aren't coming. Crunchyroll isn't showing it, nor is Netflix, so the show isn't penetrating to the western audience at large.. and so, the people who thrive on trying to "Destroy the SJW menace" are starved of content, frantically searching for a hit of their addiction of making fun of people who.. shuffles notes ..don't like the things they like. |
| Why'd he spare her the metal rod? He could've just healed it afterward if he wanted a less crisp entrance. Is that where they drew the line? |
| "No, son, you may not have your body pillow at the dinner table!" |
NthDegree said: I watched this episode just because I like indulging in Twitter rage every now and then. However, the entire thing is just so on the nose that it feels pointless. Calling this misogynistic piece of garbage is not a hot take, just a fact. Anyone who denies that is just delusional, so it doesn't make for a good argument. From what I see, the only reason anyone would ever watch this would be to get off if they're into that... but in that case you should just watch a hentai. I wish I had watched the censored version so it would at least have the entertainment value of seeing how ridiculous the censorship gets. Without that, the show is just boring. But it isn't really. It's not like rape isn't bad, but that isn't quite the point. What this MC did was basically: "This piece of shit cold-bloodedly thrown me into a prison to be torture, drugged and raped into oblivion while I completely lost my sanity and my own sense of self to the point of not really existing anymore. Much like she did beforehand, for years on end while having me as a slave. But getting vengeance without her doing nothing to me would be unfair, so I'll repeat the same history twice with countermeasures prepared, even because it's inevitable and they would find me regardless. So what to do to pay back in the same coin all the things she did? Oh, right, literally the same thing she did and also transform her into a slave that isn't herself, but as I'm more humane than her, I'll treat her brainwashed self with more care, unlike she and her companions did to me, it's not like she has conscience of being herself any longer, anyway, why be brutal with someone who wouldn't understand why they are suffering, just like they did to me?" HUR DUR RAPE BAD. Obviously, he is doing it BECAUSE it's so bad, he suffered that fate himself albeit doing nothing bad in her hands. He is taking revenge on her in the same coin, what a surprise that he would torture, rape and brainwash her into submission just like she did to him (and in a much worse scale at that, if he retributed in the same coin for real he would have made her a prison toy to be raped, tortured and drugged until she went insane like him)... |
DanpmssJan 21, 2021 7:17 PM
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By both, do you mean that he also put the metal rod inside of her? (You know what I mean) |
LMAO, imagine the mental gymnastics required to justify a run of the mill hentai rape scenario and act like "it makes sense". Can't make this shit up. |
| The best part is the super happy go-lucky ending song that just makes this so much more wtf. |
| MAL: A community that thinks every anime is bad, but rates everything a 7/10. |
| TBH all the people that complain about this show are just hypocrites Also instead of wasting your time watching a show you don't like, a show you watch just to complain, just go do something good with your life (or something good for another person) and let the people that enjoy this anime in peace... It's just pure fiction, this can't happen in real life. (OFC I'm not saying that what the MC does is good, just saying) |
TheDopealicious said: LMAO, imagine the mental gymnastics required to justify a run of the mill hentai rape scenario and act like "it makes sense". Can't make this shit up. I wonder what would you do in his place if you suffered his same fate. |
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Kayleon said: Top_Sergeant said: Evil begets evil. Cruelty is never justifiable, even as revenge. However cruelty and revenge are both very real and happen every day. To ignore its existence is like lying to yourself. Instead of seeking safe havens I think a person should cultivate courage so that they can face horror and cruelty however and wherever it manifests itself. The story thus far is well crafted and the characters, as set out to us, are acting in accordance with their narratives. I am hoping that, when the MC finally finds the dark elf he seeks, that the healer will ultimately achieve his own healing. Some people choose to fight back, guess you are not one of them. I would have done the same as the mc Nah, I just wouldn't have tortured them. Didn't say I wouldn't have killed them if I'd been in the MC's shoes. |
Top_SergeantJan 21, 2021 7:56 PM
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| Man, talk about disappointing. All of this hype for nothing. I feel like the only reason people are fellating this garbage is because they think it's subversive and they want to offend "le SJWs". Sorry, but a group of people not liking something does not make it good. The atrocious writing and animation aside, let's talk about what actually matters in this show, specifically this episode: The rape scene. Everything else might as well be pretense, window dressing, it's all in service of this one scene. And while the appetizer may have been shit, I was at least open to the main course being good. Instead, I was still served garbage. Sure, there might have been an entire episode and a half of shoddy build-up that was simultaneously confusing and made the MC just look like a pathetic moron, but I would been able to overlook all that had it delivered on what was its main promise. To put it frankly, this was not edgy enough. Our MC seems willing to break her fingers and then heal them, but yet he gives her a choice between a burning metal rod and his dick? Why? Had it just been the illusion of choice, I think that would have been pretty awesome. But no. From the way the bitch screams, it certainly sounded like a a fire poker was being inserted into some orifice, but the fact that was just his dick made it less edgy and more confusing. It seems like they just didn't want to commit. And then there's him wiping her memories, which is the real offense here. It effectively removes any sort of interesting dynamic between the two. Wouldn't a more compelling, satisfying, and fucked up revenge be to let her keep her memories, to have her be degraded into a state of Stockhold Syndrome where she just becomes totally submissive? Instead, wiping her memories just totally circumvents this entire route of development. And for what? To make her just another banal waifu not unlike the ones every other harem anime under the sun? What a sad excuse for an anime that people are touting as a hallmark of edgy and subversive content. Fucking Gekidol was more disturbing than this shit. |
MienusJan 21, 2021 10:41 PM
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kneesweak27 said: hmm why does he going through the rape, being abused etc. again after he went through back time? because that's the only way to gain drug resistance again or other reasons? because i noticed that he got other skills that aren't common for a healer which implied that he's more than that, for ex. changing person's face and canceling magic? Does he get these skills because of getting physically and mentally abused first to trigger these locked skills or did he get this from the start before the fucked up things happened to him (after going through back time i mean) or these skills are actually carried over when he went through back time from his previous life? {if it's gonna be explained in later parts of the story, just mention it instead of explain it 'cause you already helped me a lot :) , i'm assuming that you've read later parts of the story from LN} Sorry, forgot to mention that exchanging bodily fluids with a hero for a while will increase personal level cap. Sex just happens to be much more effective in increasing level cap. The skills and abilities do not carry over, otherwise he would still have access to drug resistance skill, but the knowledge/memories are carried over. Yes, I've read the light novel. If he knows what will be done to him, why is he letting them do it? The answer is quite mundane, its because he wish to stay in control. It's the A&B's of time travel, doing things differently may result in different outcome. To begin with, healers are not a combat class. Thus he does everything he can to obtain the skills & stats he require to pull off his revenge while relying on his knowledge of the events from the first run. Lastly, he clearly states that the king is a MONSTER, he had to bide his time until the monster is out of the house. Oh right, there is also this one particula quirk to the protagonist, he gives people the benefit of doubt. Even if he knows that a person was pure evil in the first run, he will reaffirm this fact in the second run before exacting his revenge on that person. In regards to Healing ability, yes, it makes no fucking sense. But, if a hero of magic can manipulate magic freely, then a hero of healing can manipulate the physical body freely. But yeah, I agree that his healing powers make no sense. |
ZingFreelancerJan 21, 2021 11:55 PM
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BoguKamBek said: Never watched shield hero past the first episode so don't know what you are talking about. Ah, my appologies, ended up quoting the wrong person. Was meant to be addressed to Talcon said: Never thought I'd see a TV anime even more depraved than Shield Hero, but here we are. Jesus, just make a hentai if you want to make hentai. Huh? Shield Hero is basically PG13. |
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Mienus said: And then there's him wiping her memories, which is the real offense here. It effectively removes any sort of interesting dynamic between the two. Wouldn't a more compelling, satisfying, and fucked up revenge be to let her keep her memories, to have her be degraded into a state of Stockhold Syndrome where she just becomes totally submissive? Instead, wiping her memories just totally circumvents this entire route of development. And for what? To make her just another banal waifu not unlike the ones every other harem anime under the sun? 1. Flare is the hero of magic, she is basically the most powerful mage in the world. 2. He is on the run from a KINGDOM where he just killed a bunch of people and kidnapped the princess. 3. Flare Sister 4. Not wiping her memories means you have to constantly watch your back and letting her help him in battles will be more dangerous to him than fighting with an arm tied behind his back. 5. He did not wipe the memories out, he sealed them |
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ZingFreelancer said: Mienus said: And then there's him wiping her memories, which is the real offense here. It effectively removes any sort of interesting dynamic between the two. Wouldn't a more compelling, satisfying, and fucked up revenge be to let her keep her memories, to have her be degraded into a state of Stockhold Syndrome where she just becomes totally submissive? Instead, wiping her memories just totally circumvents this entire route of development. And for what? To make her just another banal waifu not unlike the ones every other harem anime under the sun? 1. Flare is the hero of magic, she is basically the most powerful mage in the world. 2. He is on the run from a KINGDOM where he just killed a bunch of people and kidnapped the princess. 3. Flare Sister 4. Not wiping her memories means you have to constantly watch your back and letting her help him in battles will be more dangerous to him than fighting with an arm tied behind his back. 5. He did not wipe the memories out, he sealed them Quite the revenge I'd say. |
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ZingFreelancer said: Mienus said: And then there's him wiping her memories, which is the real offense here. It effectively removes any sort of interesting dynamic between the two. Wouldn't a more compelling, satisfying, and fucked up revenge be to let her keep her memories, to have her be degraded into a state of Stockhold Syndrome where she just becomes totally submissive? Instead, wiping her memories just totally circumvents this entire route of development. And for what? To make her just another banal waifu not unlike the ones every other harem anime under the sun? 1. Flare is the hero of magic, she is basically the most powerful mage in the world. 2. He is on the run from a KINGDOM where he just killed a bunch of people and kidnapped the princess. 3. Flare Sister 4. Not wiping her memories means you have to constantly watch your back and letting her help him in battles will be more dangerous to him than fighting with an arm tied behind his back. 5. He did not wipe the memories out, he sealed them Literally none of this matters. I'm not here, and I don't think many people are, looking for a super well constructed story. It is, first and foremost, schlock. Now schlock is not necessarily a bad thing, but we shouldn't avoid what the story fundamentally is. Frankly, I don't care what nonsensical reasons the author introduces to justify such a thing, and as a result the in-universe justifications for why such a thing should be avoided are of little consequence as well. What matters isn't how it fits into the logical construct of the story itself. Like I said the story is schlock and as such logic is subordinate to the adherence towards the development of that schlock. As a result, even if it is logical, if it undermines the schlockiness of the story, I think it should be avoided. And wiping or sealing her memories does just that. |
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Mienus said: ZingFreelancer said: 1. Flare is the hero of magic, she is basically the most powerful mage in the world. 2. He is on the run from a KINGDOM where he just killed a bunch of people and kidnapped the princess. 3. Flare Sister 4. Not wiping her memories means you have to constantly watch your back and letting her help him in battles will be more dangerous to him than fighting with an arm tied behind his back. 5. He did not wipe the memories out, he sealed them Literally none of this matters. I'm not here, and I don't think many people are, looking for a super well constructed story. It is, first and foremost, schlock. Now schlock is not necessarily a bad thing, but we shouldn't avoid what the story fundamentally is. Frankly, I don't care what nonsensical reasons the author introduces to justify such a thing, and as a result the in-universe justifications for why such a thing should be avoided are of little consequence as well. What matters isn't how it fits into the logical construct of the story itself. Like I said the story is schlock and as such logic is subordinate to the adherence towards the development of that schlock. As a result, even if it is logical, if it undermines the schlockiness of the story, I think it should be avoided. And wiping or sealing her memories does just that. Shlock can be well structured too, give Code Geass and Gurren Laggan some credit there. |
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| [quote=Mienus message=61770202] ZingFreelancer said: Literally none of this matters. I'm not here, and I don't think many people are, looking for a super well constructed story. It is, first and foremost, schlock. Now schlock is not necessarily a bad thing, but we shouldn't avoid what the story fundamentally is. Frankly, I don't care what nonsensical reasons the author introduces to justify such a thing, and as a result the in-universe justifications for why such a thing should be avoided are of little consequence as well. What matters isn't how it fits into the logical construct of the story itself. Like I said the story is schlock and as such logic is subordinate to the adherence towards the development of that schlock. As a result, even if it is logical, if it undermines the schlockiness of the story, I think it should be avoided. And wiping or sealing her memories does just that. I think what you desire to see is more of a love story where MC takes the wicked heroine and overtime they fall in love, the heroine is reformed and so on? The ending of the light novel has not been translated yet, but based on development so far, here is what I think. |
ZingFreelancerJan 22, 2021 4:32 AM
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