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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- Well. I honestly don't think that could have gone any worse than it did. And Scratchman can really hit Luffy and Zoro hard. I wonder if that's just the sonic vibrations of his devil fruit, or if he's enhanced that with haki too. That was super dangerous. Felt so happy for Kid getting his revenge slap in there. On break next week, but no surprise there. Oda had already posted earlier that with the way things are we'll be seeing a bi- to tri-weekly release going forward. |
| I reject your reality, and substitute my own. |
| Luffy screwed up as you could expect him to do but lol Zoro didn't get lost this time. Apoo actually managed to damage both but it seems like Kid just finished him off. Still, since both Luffy and Zoro blew their cover, it's going to be an endless mayhem here. |
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| almost get jobbed early LMAO. |
 "If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| Welp that was dumb. |
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| Ok look I APPRECIATE that oda does not use ass pulls or illogical power up's for these characters like so many other damn shonen do. I LOVE the fact that power scaling is taking into great consideration for this manga to be as real as possible but my god man come on. 980 Chapters in and the Straw hats are still fodder in the face of these enemies. Just what in the hell is oda thinking. I am telling you right now. This entire fight is SO ONE SIDED!! So i guess its not about who will win, its about what "surprise" does oda have in store for the climax of this arc that could potentially turn the tables. I honestly think at this point luffy is in a serous need of a power up despite the fact that i don't like random ass pulls. He still needs some kind of boost. THIS is just ridiculous. He's going to fight kaido, lmao. yeah right! |
ArtimesGamerMay 22, 2020 12:12 AM
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| Apoo is probably a glass cannon kinda like Nami, I don't think that his fruit can defend himself from Kidd's attack and he don't look like a guy that uses busoshoku Haki so Kidd probably took him down already. It seems that Zoro and Luffy took some damage but they have food all around them so I guess they can "heal". |
Shoko664May 22, 2020 4:07 AM
| I like the fact that supernovaes' powers are never neglected but damn, I wasn't expecting Apoo to make that much damage to Luffy AND Zoro. Still no Yamato in sight.. This was a cool but short chapter, 4/5 |
| Really nice now the Apoo haters know he wasn't all talk , I like where this is going and Kid's slap felt good to read . That's also gonna cool down the Zorosexuals that thought he would beat Kaido lol same for Sanji , he definitely won't be against Queen seeing the levels of the supernovas/Tobi-roppos , they'll be plenty enough for him. Don't misunderstand tho in 1v1 both Luffy or Zoro could beat Apoo , they were just surprised by these invisible attacks that they didn't know and Zoro didn't really look too bothered by the slash same for Luffy he's back on track like 2 pages later. 5/5 |
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I guess the circumstances are different now and it's not like Zoro acted like a role model during the course of this arc xD Well, finally we're getting to see Apoo's power in action against someone who doesn't happen to be Kizaru and it's quite the tricky one, good for him because in a open fight he probably wouldn't stand a chance against Luffy or Zoro. The attacks didn't cause lasting damage, but I'm not sure how I like it that Luffy was more or less "down for the count". Sometimes I wish he would just make quick work of everyone except the top dogs. (even tho he does from time to time and Apoo is undoubtedly a force to be reckoned with) In this sense, I can't wait to see Luffy putting his new learned ryou or advanced armament haki to use against a strong character preferably someone thick skinned like Queen :P Apoo obviously doesn't strike as best suited for this display of power. And he was reserved for Kid anyway, was hoping for this confrontation since Sabaody. Back then he just didn't like his face, but now it's time to teach a backstabber a lesson and to take revenge for his friend Killer. I mean you could say it was Apoo who was the catalyst for these chain of events, especially from Kid's perspective. |
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| Good! Kid got a great punch in on Apoo. |
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| Well done kid. A traitor should never be spared. |
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| Kid at the end was the best part of this chapter, apoo seems stronger than expected I wonder who will figh him before big fights come to play |
| I don't understand why I'm seeing so many people complaining about Zoro and Luffy getting overpowered by Apoo, they literally don't know shit about his abilities so of course he's going to be able to take advantage of that and catch them off guard, without them being able to adequately dodge or counter his attacks. If you were to fight someone who has a gun on them, and you didn't know they had a gun, I'm sure your chances of victory would go down considerably once they pull out their gun and start shooting at you. Anyway, nice to get a glimpse of Apoo in action after quite some time. Kid getting in a revenge hit was satisfying, but I doubt Apoo will stay down so I hope we get to see them fight a little more. |
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| I can't believe the fandom is freaking out because Apoo was able to scratch Luffy and Zoro, I mean, it's in the name “Scratchman Apoo”, o-okkey I'll stop. |
| Something tells me were gonna get a flashback to Apoo's betrayal and that Kid knows how his power works and is gonna mess Apoo up. I'm guessing Apoo's power is is gonna be a bit like sound genjutsu, so sealing the ears should be an adequate defence. |
| “I just spent the last two years thinking that you guys knew more than me about life and I just found out that you guys are just as dumb as me.” “Duh-doy.” “Yeah, duh-doy.” |
| It is complete bullshit for Apoo to deal that amount of damage to Zorro and Luffy. It should have been a one-sided fight given the respective power levels. Come on Oda, you can do better than that ! |
link9us said: So i guess its not about who will win, its about what "surprise" does oda have in store for the climax of this arc that could potentially turn the tables. I honestly think at this point luffy is in a serous need of a power up despite the fact that i don't like random ass pulls. He still needs some kind of boost. THIS is just ridiculous. He's going to fight kaido, lmao. yeah right! I don't think he's going to fight Kaido all by himself. You know what happened with Big Mom in WCI and now she's here too. He + Kidd + Law trio would barely manage to scratch Kaido. So I don't think this will be your usual Luffy vs the enemy kind of fight. |
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Kayleon said: It is complete bullshit for Apoo to deal that amount of damage to Zorro and Luffy. It should have been a one-sided fight given the respective power levels. Come on Oda, you can do better than that ! Power levels dont exist in One Piece, and even if they did we barely know anything about Apoo. |
nanimeanswhat said: link9us said: So i guess its not about who will win, its about what "surprise" does oda have in store for the climax of this arc that could potentially turn the tables. I honestly think at this point luffy is in a serous need of a power up despite the fact that i don't like random ass pulls. He still needs some kind of boost. THIS is just ridiculous. He's going to fight kaido, lmao. yeah right! I don't think he's going to fight Kaido all by himself. You know what happened with Big Mom in WCI and now she's here too. He + Kidd + Law trio would barely manage to scratch Kaido. So I don't think this will be your usual Luffy vs the enemy kind of fight. That is what i perceive as well. Its more about the numbers and the alliances that luffy has created which will end up turning the tables in some fashion. Much of the monologue and speech regarding the 5th yonko was not really about his abilities, it was more so about how many groups of dangerious pirates and crews he was able to rally to his cause which can evidently cause luffy to be a pretty great force in the one piece world. But you have to wonder WHEN will oda actually reveal a time in the story where luffy is the top dog pirate king and a commanding force with great power toppling most of the characters in the world and becoming a legend in his own right like many of the yonko before him. I know eventually this will take place in the story at some point but as of now, he is FAR FAR from achieving that level of strength and dominance. I just hope there is not another time skip, that would be a cop out way of oda suddenly providing extreme power boosts to all the characters just so the main character can achieve his goals. I don't want a repeat of naruto, I want the development and growth of these characters to be as natural as can be. |
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| I love how Zoro came in announcing everything lol Apoo's powers is a lot trickier than I gave it credit for. |
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| This chapter was complete bullshit. Luffy will never change, so I don´t expect him to not get triggered by some fodders spilling food. Even if it means not being even able to get close to the big shots in a base where two yonkos are present. Zoro just did the fucking same. The worst part is Luffy getting almost take out by two attacks from Appoo. Like, what?. I swear to god there are days where Luffy can fight against people like Katakuri or Cracker for an entire day and pull some shit like this. Also, completely forgot that they both have observation Haki, so that´s another thing. And remember, these guy will most likely take Kaido and his All-stars in this same arc. This only proves that the Mugis have never been prepared since the Sabaody arc. Always rushing like idiots and then running away from the enemy or winning with some plot involved. |
Saurian_X said: Kayleon said: It is complete bullshit for Apoo to deal that amount of damage to Zorro and Luffy. It should have been a one-sided fight given the respective power levels. Come on Oda, you can do better than that ! Zoro best showing so far was barely beating Killer. Apoo is a Supernova Captain that’s not only fought Kid twice already, but has a devil fruit power that even Kizaru could do nothing about initially. Whatever “power levels” there were, he respected them. Pakumen- said: This chapter was complete bullshit. Luffy will never change, so I don´t expect him to not get triggered by some fodders spilling food. Even if it means not being even able to get close to the big shots in a base where two yonkos are present. Zoro just did the fucking same. The worst part is Luffy getting almost take out by two attacks from Appoo. Like, what?. I swear to god there are days where Luffy can fight against people like Katakuri or Cracker for an entire day and pull some shit like this. Also, completely forgot that they both have observation Haki, so that´s another thing. And remember, these guy will most likely take Kaido and his All-stars in this same arc. This only proves that the Mugis have never been prepared since the Sabaody arc. Always rushing like idiots and then running away from the enemy or winning with some plot involved. He was triggered because there were wasting food while people like Tama have to starve, he's never been triggered by people just spilling food before so not sure what "change" you were expecting. And again, Apoo is a SUPERNOVA, one of those in the exact same bracket as Luffy and Zoro (And has been in the New World far longer than they have). Seriously, the fact that many think he's fodder, a glass cannon, will get low-diffed in a 1v1 against either Luffy or Zoro is very telling. True but Luffy and Zorro are Tier-1 in Supernova, just look at their bounties (which has always been an indicator of power except for some persons). So ofc the so-called 5th yonko and his vice-captain should wreck the hell out of someone who has a bounty of 350M berries and did no serious feats in the New World |
| Apoo's powers seem pretty funky... Seems like that it was a bit less of the fact that Apoo is super strong, and more that he caught Luffy and Zoro off-guard since those two know nothing about Apoo's powers. |
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| The trick here is to figure out how exactly Apoo's powers work. Like in HxH. |
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| when Apoo started busting up Luffy it made me think of that Supa Hot Fire skit where he's like "I'm about to end this man's whole career. Boom. Bam. Bop. Badabop Boomp. Pow. |
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