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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Alrighty then, personally this is where I drop the series, 9 minutes into this episode. I put up with Major Timeskip at the beginning, I put up with Major Shift throughout, I put up with Major Girls. I refuse to put up with this Major Asspull anymore though. This is beyond obnoxious. |
| Damn, my first thought was: "My, Hikaru is an asshole now!" But maybe he just wanted to tell Daigo like it is and this will be good for him in the long run? |
IKKIsamaOct 31, 2020 4:50 AM
| This is shades of season 1 Daigo, where he got shook up big time with being hit by a reality check by Hikaru and reverted in a way to how he used to hide and act originally when being depressed by the sport of baseball when he had no talent then as well, like how he feels now compared to Hikaru who not only came back from a really bad injury but put in massive work at the right environment to be the catcher he is now. Daigo might have great baseball IQ and be a good leader but he hasn't been SHAKEN about anything so this is the first time this season he got like this. I am again, curious to see the longevity of this particular Junior High arc and if they are finishing this next week (not sure about that exactly), then how would they do it. |
IKKIsama said: But maybe he just wanted to tell Daigo like it is and this will be good for him in the long run? He went a bit overboard though, and only demotivated him into the ground yellowheartren said: Alrighty then, personally this is where I drop the series, 9 minutes into this episode. Only 1 episode left though... Might as well just finish it animejas said: I am again, curious to see the longevity of this particular Junior High arc and if they are finishing this next week (not sure about that exactly), They are. If you look into http://cal.syoboi.jp/tid/5613/time – it says "final episode" next to 25, and although http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAJOR_2nd does not specify the ending date yet, it also says 25 episodes animejas said: then how would they do it. You can already get a rough idea from the preview I guess Not my favourite type of episode. 1st season also had to pull some drama at the end, which I did not like. There's still some hope left for the final episode, but this one, I did not enjoy at all |
SerhiykoOct 31, 2020 5:57 AM
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I mean, I can but at the same time, I feel like more should be covered in this Junior High arc in particular with some resolution matches/tournament wise. We had 1 tournament in this season so far and that was a practice one where Michiru's team won and not really a tournament to finish this season off, just a practice match with a tough end. Plus in high school, a lot of these characters we won't see as much since high school baseball is going to focus on the Koshien where you won't have gender-mixed squads like the Fuurin one now so I'm just hoping the entire Junior High arc doesn't just end with Daigo and others feeling better. Although I can see why they would hold Daigo getting revenge on Hikaru in high school where it really matters in a proper game and use this as just a platform to jump to that. |
| Well well well... So Hikaru has somehow became an asshole, but I agree with what was said, he can't see himself lowering his ambitions to reach Daigo's level. Concerning Daigo, I'd just like to say that he is in fact mentally weak as f***, that's really sad to see. I know it's not good to compare, but at the same age Goro was so much stronger and had been through so much more painful moments. Basically, Daigo has proven how pampered, easily discouraged and, again, really weak he is. I know the relationship he has with Hikaru are somehow reminds of how Goro and Toshiya's was, but I can't see how they are ever going to reach the close rivalry and friendship their dads had (or even the trust they had in season 1) when one of them can be so weak-minded. Well, let's just see how the last episode will wrap this up. And happy Halloween. |
| daigo broke again lol....hikaru just like his father but worse. |
| Oh boy oh boy oh boy here we go fucking again. Major 2nd, you had your chances to impress me over your predecessor, but instead you’ve also fallen into overdramatic “mediocrity” here as well. Regardless of whether or not this is supposed to be good writing for Daigo’s character development, it’s basically the essential same route as with the soap opera in the first Major series, and it’s one of the worst parts. The episode was really hard to watch by itself, but not entirely unwatchable by all means. Even if Hikaru’s words were meant to get Daigo out of his little nest, it was still disgustingly condescending. I won’t lie when I admit I wanted to slap Hikaru as brutally as I’d want to slap someone like Shinji Ikari. With only one more episode left, and Daigo seemingly still on super emo mode by the end of this one, the damage with this alone is too much to cover up unless they suddenly try to make us sympathize with Hikaru with the season finale, which I doubt will happen anyways. |
RyuseishunOct 31, 2020 7:05 AM
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Serhiyko said: Only 1 episode left though... Might as well just finish it Technically more than one, I didn't even finish this episode. Just... no thanks. |
| Holy shit that final part is depressing but this could lead to something that Daigo cruelly needed,teasing all sorts of things for the next highschool arc. |
| Deep dark fantasies |
| Hikaru is utter trash confirmed, as his father was in the old Major series, I thought maybe he wanted to push Daigo so they can form the battery as they promised in the previous season but nope. Daigo needs to get its shit together. |
| No tomo malas decisiones, solo me gusta apoyar causas perdidas. Disfruté Mayoiga, Ou-sama Game, Evil or Live, Mirai Nikki, Big Order, Arifureta, Ex-Arm, Tesla Note, Shuumatsu no Harem y Platinum End nope les falle con esa, lo siento pero todos tenemos nuestros límites. Así de jodido es mi gusto en anime, ¡Y estoy pinche orgulloso de ello!  |
yellowheartren said: Technically more than one, I didn't even finish this episode. Just... no thanks. Not really new in the major series. Their fathers had an almost identical spat. I for one kind of agree that Hikaru phrased things in a tough way but it's not like he was wrong. Even if Daigo was "playing house" and building a harem, his personal skills don't match up with the trajectory he was supposed to have. Hikaru was left in rehab at the end of season 1 and while he was eons above daigo in talent, he appears to have put in the work as well. |
| now what the team only needs is a coach who can bring mental care and morale to team members. I am looking forward to a new season if possible as a manga reader. |
RobKuro85 said: I know Hikaru was a asshole this epiosde, but he did make some good points. Daigo really has tried his best given what's happened to their team, but yeah, having most of team composed of girls can have many people tlit their heads. They hols their own for awhile, but like Nao stated, they palyed against "Men", the divide is clearly shown. So they might as well lower their goal for now. Lastly, once they get to Highschool, the divide against boys and girls is clear as day. Hikaru also made another fair point in that he could excuse the scandal and girl team but Daigo let himself slack with how statistically weaker he is than someone who wanted to form a legendary battery. Coming from his vantage point of struggling through rehab and getting to be the starting catcher in a team like his and then watching Daigo lollygag because he decided to build a team instead of himself would be infuriating. |
| It's true, this can't go on like this. The girls should play against girls and the guys against guys, it's simple as that. |
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| Nice episode, I always feel the strong points of Major is always when it go full drama. |
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UaEfAlCoN83 said: While people seem to hate major 2nd - I don't know why - but I think it is still as good as the original major series. I didn't think the first season was as good as the original series but this one was awesome. |
UaEfAlCoN83 said: While people seem to hate major 2nd - I don't know why - but I think it is still as good as the original major series. People want Daigo to be Goro, but this defeats the whole purpose of the new series/manga. Unlike his selfish father, who cares about baseball only, Daigo cares more about the people around him. Many people dislike the idea of Daigo playing with girls. Still, I think this arc is necessary for his character development because being the captain, coach, and catcher at the same time is mentally draining, especially with his kind character. He technically could have gotten better as a player if he joined some other team, but that won't improve his mentality or his way of thinking. Let's compare Daigo to Hikaru. Hikaru is playing with a powerhouse team, meaning that he won't feel pressured since he plays with a strong team. Such a strong team will not break easily, but what happens if they actually break? None of the team members will be able to handle it because they are used to winning/being at the top. Also, these teams usually get arrogant, which affects you as a player since you will start underestimating "weaker" teams. If you are serious while being in a weak team, you will think about ways to beat stronger players using strategies of whatever. This is what catchers need ... I just have one question, what kind of injury does not allow you to pitch but allows you to be a catcher/batter/runner? Did the author just make up some random injury, or is it real? Still, I think Hikaru can become a pitcher, but he won't. Daigo will probably play as a catcher until he reaches the MBL, where he will play in both positions. I have a feeling that Hikaru *can* pitch physically speaking, but he's not allowed to by his parents. My theory is that his mom's condition for him to play baseball again is to be in a safer position (as a catcher, he'll be more guarded than any other player on the field, and if he is a good catcher, he won't be hit with balls in the first place). Of course he'll still risk injuries when defending the home plate, but not life-threatning ones (like in the head). He could become a pitcher again once he's an adult, but considering how serious he is about being the regular catcher and following in his dad's footsteps, he might not go back to pitching at all. |
| Regarding the episode, I'm a lil sad about the way the girls are seen as inferior. I thought the whole point of the series was to show that girls can play just as well as the boys even if they're not as physically strong, at least at their age. All the characters are between 12 and 14 years of age. There's not much of difference between girls and boys at 12 and 13, though at 14 they certainly start showing signs of a better physique (it's why from 15 onwards they're separated, which is also when they start high school). But even still, all those boys are just starting to grow. First-years in high school often focus on building their physique precisely because of that. They don't have great stamina and strengh from the get-go (though the potential is there). Thus, I call bullshit on "they were playing against men". This episode also reminded me of something that happens in volleyball. Men's serves are fundamentally different from women's precisely because of their physical difference. Men can easily serve at 100km/h, while most women can't do power serves. That being said, there *are* women who can, and I can think of at least 3 current examples (Boskovic and Mihajlovic from Serbia and Egonu from Italy). Although these are exceptions, it goes to show that some women can develop "male strength" (I'm lacking a better word here). I don't see how this couldn't apply to baseball as well. Wasn't Michiru supposed to reflect a little of that? That she is a good baseball player and not "a good baseball player for a girl"? I'm a bit confused about the author's intent. I don't know if he wants to bring the girls up or down. |
| Things I learned this episode: - hikaru is a b!tch - daigo is hormonal af - sakura is still best girl Looks like next week will be the last episode... I hope it wraps up well :) |
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| I really enjoy this season so far, but this first half of episode meh , why reusing this cringe drama with the best friend being mean and cold every time you see him after a long date |
| What Hikaru did to Daigo made him the lowest form of fucking scum to me. |
UaEfAlCoN83 said: I just have one question, what kind of injury does not allow you to pitch but allows you to be a catcher/batter/runner? Did the author just make up some random injury, or is it real? Still, I think Hikaru can become a pitcher, but he won't. Daigo will probably play as a catcher until he reaches the MBL, where he will play in both positions. Yes, they do exist in reality. Pitchers with torn ligaments or rotator cuff issues can sometimes just play as pinch hitters or as fielders while their bodies heal up or they finish surgery/rehab etc. Its not a stretch for Hikaru to have those injuries. AnimeJunky said: What Hikaru did to Daigo made him the lowest form of fucking scum to me. Giving Daigo a reality check in the form of edgy 13 year old makes him lowest form of scum? |
| this ep was exactly as i expected it to go.... Hikaru is just like his dad now especially in his early years... except daigo aint no where near as strong minded as his dad and now he got put back into season 1 daigo also i have to say am glad we didnt have to sit through that full game cause that shit just turned stupid lol like i said before i want to know how things will go once they hit hishschool when the girls seriously cant play with daigo anymore i feel like once that comes into play the series will become a LOT better hopefully daigo becomes more strong minded like his dad cause the emo shit is real fucking annoying |
| "one step at a time" |
| Ah Sakura, you are too nice. When Daigo was late and then was just whining you should have slapped him. |
| The sword that takes life gives life |
| So I think Hikaru is just being an asshole who parrots the same bullshit that his toxic ass teammates say. I really hope the middle school saga goes on to have a second part because I really don't want to skip to High School like the way the previous season skipped to middle school. I seriously wants these teams to get a rematch, it would be the perfect way to end this story. I grown really attached to the Fuurin team and they deserve to go out with fricking bang in anime form, so I don't have to relearn Spanish in order to read the current manga scans. |
Lazy said: AnimeJunky said: What Hikaru did to Daigo made him the lowest form of fucking scum to me. Giving Daigo a reality check in the form of edgy 13 year old makes him lowest form of scum? I have no problem with Hikaru trying to get Daigo to get better. The way he went about it was scummy as hell. Especially doing it in the middle of a game. Being 13 years old is not an excuse. Daigo pulled together and coached a pretty good team from scratch after the main team was disbanded. Hikaru may have been put through a lot of shit but so has Daigo. I stick by what I said. |
| I'd like to see if there would be any twist in the future that Hikaru actually still cared about Daigo and this is all just a facade to step up Daigo's level. But maybe it's really not it and he legit is pissed and really blamed Daigo for the career-ending injury... In any case, I could see either theory would make a very exciting plot from now on. Oh and also Hikaru acting like this reminds be back when Toshiya was mad at Gorou back in their last game in Kaidou together haha |
AikotobaNov 1, 2020 2:24 PM
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| Daigo regressing to his former self is pretty annoying. We had to put up with his lack of commitment in first season and now this season- it's super annoying. The only keeping me going is the girls stealing the show- their chemistry kinda reminds me of K-On with all their banter. Also screw Hikaru. |
| Hikaru knows Daigo well enough to understand that this kind of harassment wouldn't help him in any way. He sucker punched him with guilt. He knows that Daigo mercilessly blamed himself for Hikaru's injury. He always blames himself for everything. This is his deepest flaw. He is brave, smart and strong willed, but very psychologically weak. It was incredibly easy for Hikaru to dig up this guilt and make it flourish again. And he did it on purpose, because it is his turn to be a villain, i guess. He deliberately rendered team captain out of commission and then crushed his team with ease. Team that was built from scratch, without coach. Yeah, boy from middle school gathers and trains the whole team by himself. What a shameful display! He obviously not working hard enough. He needs a reality check! How dares he to play around with lowly girls! He should abandon them all, join the strongest team, train with real Men and turn himself into baseball terminator. Of course now Daigo needs to overcome his traditional bout of depression and once again defeat his biggest enemy - handheld game console. But what he has to prove to Hikaru is that you don't have to become an asshole to succeed in something. And of course the rest is up to the girls. Right now they can't possibly win because they believe that it is already physically impossible. |
Kurokami_Hina said: I mean, I get Daigo's reasoning, you gotta remind yourself that he was only like 15 years old here or something, and teenagers tend to blame themselves for something like what happened to Hikaru, Daigo is still blaming himself, Hikaru on the other hand became condescending which is cringe, he is like worse than Toshiya in the old series, but yeah, Daigo is still fighting for his dream because its pretty obvious so far that he is not as talented as his father at baseball, and that reality will shock everyone. even you reading this. so dont go, "boohoo Daigo so mentally weak". we all are, in our teenager phase we are all mentally weak. He's 13 (second year in middle school). I really hope we get a sequel to the middle school arc. Nishina, Mushroom Head, Anita and Chisato are only 12, they still have two years to get stronger before moving up to high school. Daigo, Yayoi, Tao, Sakura and Kandori have another year too. Fuurin is not at its peak yet and with a coach I'm pretty sure they can go farther and surprise the rival schools. I really want them to shut Hikaru up. |
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