| There are white hispanics and hispanics that are white mixed with Amerindian that usually have a brown complexion. America is the only country that uses it as a racial term for politics. |
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deg said: Nope, I don't believe so. In Europe hispanics are the Spanish and the Portuguese.DrGeroCreation said: America is the only country that uses it as a racial term for politics. oh ok i thought even Europe does that |
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| Well if we include Mexican whites as full white people we go from like 62% white to 76%. So fine by me. |
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| Latino here. Latins are a strange ethnicity IMHO. You can have some that are really dark and some that are really light. But the overarching similarity for ALL Latin/Hispanic people have is that we are a MIXED race. Latin/Hispanic people are literally mixed with European and Native tribe blood. Almost ALL of us can trace our ancestry back to Spain or Portugal as well with Native tribes depending on what place of Latin America we came from. As such we are NOT "Caucasian" even if a good portion of us are "White". Personally, I get classified as "White-Hispanic", but I simply don't view myself as White...like at all. |
deg said: ok i thought when people use the term Hispanic they refer to the white skin ones only, i got it now mixed race it is I use both "Hispanic" and "Latin" terms although they differ a tiny bit.. Hispanic: relating to Spain or to Spanish-speaking countries, especially those of Latin America. Latin: a native or inhabitant of a country whose language developed from Latin, especially a Latin American. So as you can see...it's almost the exact same thing...the ONLY small difference is that Hispanics are ONLY those that speak Spanish and related to Spain. Where as Latins can be from non-Spanish countries such as Portugal or Italy. But yes, it's a Mixed race...that's why most Hipanic/Latins rarely call themselves white or black we prefer to simply use "Hispanic" or "Latin". But to be fair...those terms are NOT races. So...it's fucking weird. |
| @deg The first hispanics are from Hispana (Spain and Portugal) and they mixed with the Amerinidians of the New World (the Americas). |
DrGeroCreationSep 22, 2020 7:52 PM
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| @deg If I remember correctly....back in Middle School I once was filling out a test form and it asked a bunch of demo questions...how old I was, my sex, and my race too. There was White, Black, Asian, Pacific Islander, and Native American. No Hispanic or Latin....this was waaay back in the early 2000s I literally had to fill out the "Other" portion and write down "Hispanic". |
| They shouldn't be included at all. Hispanic people are literally not white, they're hispanic. White isn't a skin color, it's a group of nordic and (arguably) mediterranean phenotypes. The only hispanic thing remotely in the region of any of that is Spain, and barely any hispanics in the US are actual Spaniards (they still wouldn't be white). Having some connection via long back lineage history has no real relevance or else you mutt-inize everyone, so it doesn't matter that some "latinos" can connect themselves to 5% finnish blood or 0.3% Norwegian. Nobody gives a shit, you aren't white, and unless your bone structure and the majority of your DNA can argue otherwise, you shouldn't count as 'close enough' either. It's just a way to further trivialize Whites, which is not some new concept - especially in regard to Mexicans, and push the 'we are replacing you' mindset. It's also used in crimes to easily claim certain criminals are white, kind of like how Europe does the whole "muslims from the middle east are 'asian'" thing, though that's at least more technically correct than the whole hispanic white thing. |
TallonKarrde23Sep 22, 2020 9:19 PM
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| I thought Hispanic is only meant for Spanish-speakers or anything Spanish-related, so it's pretty fucking weird to consider it as a race when it's more of a language and a cultural thing. It overlaps that you can also consider Afro-Cubans and Afro-Dominicans as Hispanic by that idea. |
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SargonTheGreat said: TallonKarrde23 said: Ah ur back I havent seen you on this forum for a while did you get banned for the jq stuff?They shouldn't be included at all. Hispanic people are literally not white, they're hispanic. White isn't a skin color, it's a group of nordic and (arguably) mediterranean phenotypes. The only hispanic thing remotely in the region of any of that is Spain, and barely any hispanics in the US are actual Spaniards (they still wouldn't be white). Having some connection via long back lineage history has no real relevance or else you mutt-inize everyone, so it doesn't matter that some "latinos" can connect themselves to 5% finnish blood or 0.3% Norwegian. Nobody gives a shit, you aren't white, and unless your bone structure and the majority of your DNA can argue otherwise, you shouldn't count as 'close enough' either. It's just a way to further trivialize Whites, which is not some new concept - especially in regard to Mexicans. No, I just quit again and I'll probably stay that way 99% of the time like I had for the 6 years up til I came back in the first place. More selective moderation and users getting away with targeted harassment against me (and me being in trouble for reporting them doing so), kind of kills motivation to bother. They might let people get away with a lot of questionable things like 90% of my posts which would get me banned elsewhere forever immediately, and I appreciate that, but once it's user-user conflict they just let the person they prefer more get away with any harassment, that is to say, whoever is a liberal gets free support of the mods. Konradikon said: I thought Hispanic is only meant for Spanish-speakers or anything Spanish-related, so it's pretty fucking weird to consider it as a race when it's more of a language and a cultural thing. It overlaps that you can also consider Afro-Cubans and Afro-Dominicans as Hispanic by that idea. Those literally are hispanic groups. --ALEX-- said: @deg If I remember correctly....back in Middle School I once was filling out a test form and it asked a bunch of demo questions...how old I was, my sex, and my race too. There was White, Black, Asian, Pacific Islander, and Native American. No Hispanic or Latin....this was waaay back in the early 2000s I literally had to fill out the "Other" portion and write down "Hispanic". This totally has to do with wherever you live/grew up cuz of obvious demographic reasons. Why include hispanic if there's like 2% of the local population that is? California had hispanic as the second choice on everything since like the 70s. I can vouch for it personally since the 80s. Most states bordering Mexico really had this for a long time. It's why other is there - that and for mutts, though I always put White. |
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| Imo they're free to pick w/e they want cause of historic reasons. American race identifiers don't work well with European heritage. |
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| Everybody in the thread that called portuguese people hispanic is going to feel the wrath of the tremoços. That is an attack. |
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| They aren't, except maybe in america. |
ZefyrisSep 23, 2020 11:55 AM
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| Straigh up to the truth, that's a privileged white people stunt to separate the U.S from the rest. This creates a sense of uniqueness among Anglo-Saxon and Nordic immigrants. |
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| Oh geez, why this word deg? lol Is this a category yuor country recognizes as some kind of identity? To answer the question, you will have to make sure you know what country the users persepctive comes from. In the US, racial and ethnicity quations are asked cause of the role race had in the development of the country (laws, social customs, understanding etc). The US did use simple parameters (white/black) cause of how easy it was to make early distinctions (not really visible ironically in the populations now) an those that didn't fit into either were placed into what you more closely resembled, country of origin, or how far from black you were. There is alot of layers to this word, we barely got through one lol |
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Bakchos said: But why? Isn't Portugal a region of Spain? Everybody in the thread that called portuguese people hispanic is going to feel the wrath of the tremoços. That is an attack. |
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| Because of mixed European and indigenous ancestry. People from Spain/Portugal are not. |
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| Are you talking about a Black Mexican or a White Mexican? No that's not racist, that's what it is. |
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Kosmonaut said: Bakchos said: But why? Isn't Portugal a region of Spain? Everybody in the thread that called portuguese people hispanic is going to feel the wrath of the tremoços. That is an attack.  I am letting the poets speak in my place. |
Leading biologist Scott Pitnick said: The bigger your 'nads, the smaller your brains |
Bakchos said: Hush now. Napoleon can't hurt you anymore. Kosmonaut said: But why? Isn't Portugal a region of Spain? I am letting the poets speak in my place. |
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| Look it up? Seems like a good way to find out. |
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