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Do you think the show deserve the low score due to MC?
Aug 16, 2020 9:33 PM
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Do you think the show deserve the low score due to MC?.
Actually my opinion is no because in first 2-3 EPs he deserves the hate but he improved alot after it( upto ep8 don't know what will happen later).
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Aug 16, 2020 9:35 PM
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I don't know. I haven't seen it.
Aug 16, 2020 9:40 PM
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The_Squid said:
I don't know. I haven't seen it.
Ah some valuable input from you there.

None of the people I've seen criticise the anime for the MC have said anything actually positive about the story either AND it's not like this would be a better show with another better mc, because the whole story is facilitated by the fact that the mc is who he is.

I can't really say that the anime deserves the low score it has, mostly because I'm really enjoying it every week, hoping to see the mc shine and improve somehow and prove others wrong. It's fun hoping hahaha
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Aug 16, 2020 9:46 PM
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I think a good amount of the criticism is validated when you look at all of the aspects of the show (being kind of generic, the random meetups, etc.). However, I feel like there's a point where you just accept that the MC is a bad person and move on and try and enjoy the other parts of the show, but people just bash the MC and say it ruins the show yet they're still watching.

As an example, the top reviews for the series so far are two 1s, a 2 and a 3 when really it's just an average seasonal show that should be in the 4-6 range. People just exaggerate their opinions solely because of the MC, when their experience with it could be better if they either enjoy the good parts or just drop it.
Aug 16, 2020 10:19 PM
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He is an annoying little rat, I’d love to see someone beat his ass.
Aug 16, 2020 10:30 PM
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I don't really care about score personally but if bad MC is the sole reason for low score then School Days would've been the worst rated show here.
Aug 16, 2020 10:47 PM
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MC is an essential element of the show.
Also, Its just his character (btw i don't like his type, but i'm with what the girl wants) + there are plenty of guys same as him in this world (excluding me of course) + It isn't interesting in a story when a "NORMAL Guy" gets a girl.
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Aug 17, 2020 5:15 AM
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I mean the whole show is mostly about MC, most screentime is him. The story is about him, I would say yes. There is a limit to how much you can handle his personality without any progress.
Aug 17, 2020 7:17 AM
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Yeah im also not sure, the reviews are not actually review anything really, it's just people mad about the MC in general (like children's mad at something they think is garbage without even finishing the series)

There's a reason behind the autor writhing the Main MC like that, we just didn't got deep in the story yet to understand.

To be fair i think the main character is there to emphasize how good the other characters are, so is kinda dumb to put yourself in there like," i would do so different!"

So the series is kinda designed so far to be a rollercoaster, you get mad then not so mad until you get some satisfaction around the end.
Aug 17, 2020 7:28 AM

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My answer is NO.

Apparently, main female characters overshadowed the main guy in this show.
New style of story approach is bold and not easily accepted by many.
Haters are just so conservative that they could not open their mind to accept new things.
Have a noice day.

Aug 17, 2020 9:48 AM

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UsernAme3126 said:
Do you think the show deserve the low score due to MC?.

The MC really annoys me (even though I know that the whole point of the show is about how he'll and the girls will improve him but I just can't ignore the fact that he's such a dick)
And it'll affect my ratings towards this show
Btw don't you think that the MC should have went to a Brothel rather than renting a girlfriend
Aug 17, 2020 10:16 AM

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I believe it's just the whole show and how it sets up.

Everyone seems to forget about "first impressions." So of course, those who hadn't read the manga based on this had issues with the anime.

1st off: Kazuya is basically a reminder of how our lives sucked during his age. He just wanted a girlfriend and to do things with her, but things don't go her way. So he ends up masturbating and in his own little world.

The other girls are no better. The hype portrayed them as colorful girls you wanna hang out with, but that's far from the case. Chizuru is actually a difficult, defensive, and unapproachable person; the type of person who should never be a rental girlfriend in the first place. And Mami comes off as cruel and manipulative.

And I guess it was episode 5 that killed it for me; for Kazuya (after what happened to him) to go on a jack-off spree over Mami and realize that he has genuine feelings for Chizuru... (Some called it a "lol fail." I think it's far from it; he released his tensions over his feelings for Chizuru, not for Mami's body.) And then the guilt trip sets in. I thought this whole scene, with that rock music playing, was a blatant nightmare.

And I guess the true heroes of this franchise are the grandparents of both Chizuru and Kazuya; finding ways to get them closer together.
Aug 17, 2020 10:19 AM

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IMMHO; I don't like the idea that "being reminded of how horrible life can be" is considered the new "escapism" now. And yet this title is massively popular.

I guess this IS Trump's Bizarro World; where bad is good and crap is now entertaining because it has great animation and rockin' VAs.
Aug 17, 2020 3:20 PM

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I watched the first episode and the problem is not the MC, it's the girls.
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Aug 17, 2020 5:17 PM

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I find this funny how people say the characters are unrealistic and garbage. Have they even seen real people? These characters aren't that bad compared to what happens in real life. And obviously by hearing the inner thoughts of the MC we could picture him as an assholes, though in his behavior he's not so bad. I'm sure by knowing everyone's inner thoughts they would seem more evil than what they seem from the outside.

The problem with this anime is not the lack of realism. This anime is too realistic it hits us too close on our past experiences.
Aug 17, 2020 6:43 PM

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I watched the first episode and the problem is not the MC, it's the girls.


Actually; it's the show itself. It hits too close to home.

Anybody else than Kazuya would (ask his parents for more money and) blow it all on a prostitute. Then it could be an anime about how he ended up stuck in the brothel ring and tries to find meaningful love instead of meaningless sex.

But yeah. Japan's herbivore male audience and the belief that their shit's gonna fly everywhere else.
Aug 17, 2020 8:06 PM
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You know, I've read the whole manga so far. In the beginning of the anime, yes you hate him cause he is kinda made that way. Pathetic way, but as I read on in the manga, I realized it was all part of the plan and he grew even if it wasn't fast and in the same way as other shows. Some of you just want to review bomb the show because he isn't your ideal MC. I get it, he is pathetic, a simp, and all. But a show shoupldn't be based on like the first 3 episodes. The people making it probably spent tiring months to make this. I feel like it should be given a much fairer chance. Although idk how many chapters the anime will cover, I just know it gets better. The ratings are very idealistic in my opinion. Very closed view.
Aug 17, 2020 8:35 PM

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Very closed view.


I said it before somewhere else: "First impressions."

What the person does in the spotlight can break or make the whole story. Kazuya did more breaking than making here. Even when he does grow out of it and cuts down on that very thing people had issues doing, we're STILL gonna remember what he did. That's still the first few episodes of the series when people decide to buy the whole thing.

I think the reaction against the show is justified. It proves that there are people outside the hype-base that's not falling for the same trap again.

Not that romcoms aren't popular; but "long running romcoms" mean that nothing actually happens. The same tired gimmicks are being uses. And then they would go as far as to throw in unfunny sex jokes because train wrecks need people to look at them in order to gain attention nowadays.
Aug 18, 2020 12:00 AM

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The problem I think with the show is not the MC in general. Its the cast of characters and how they are portrayed to be realistic when there's not a sense of realism in them.
And please stop.
The amount of people calling this show realistic is too saddening for me. I can't understand how the MC is supposed to be relatable. If you find this MC relatable you really need to rethink your shit. I saw someone write something along the lines "Oh he just wanted a girlfriend and do stuff"
No fuck off. It's just showing that he's too dependent on someone for his happiness. Sure some people can be like that. But this MC is too damn much.
In a line between Ideal and Real, this guy falls in the spectrum of ideally pathetic. Over a 100 manga chapters and the guy still hasn't grown any balls.
But you know what? I can't hate the MC for all I have. He's the core of the show. For all the mediocrity of the series, it wouldn't exist if MC wasn't what he is, ideally pathetic in every sense. What I fucking hate with the very essence of my soul is how the fuck has he not grown a spine in over 100 chapters? Like what? The only thing unique about this show from a generic rom-com is he acts more spineless than a high school harem protagonist and instead of a highschool setting we have a college one, in name anyways.


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Aug 18, 2020 11:46 AM

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One of the most pathetic MCs in anime history ..

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Aug 18, 2020 9:53 PM
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Yes, a character who only thinks of himself, thinks of useless things, is selfish, willing to humiliate his girlfriend in public and, often mastrbates with what his ex-girlfriend is doing, that's my view after watching 5 episodes.
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Aug 19, 2020 4:58 AM
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First impression does matter I'm afraid, whether it's going to a job interview or reading a new book. That's just the way it is.

The premise of this story alone seems like it already set a bad tone: a heartbroken college guy gets dumped and decides to rent a GF to fill the void in his heart. So, a guy needs to depend his happiness over a girl? He doesn't have any other ambitions or goals in life? That's just depressingly sad.

From watching just the first couple of episodes, the MC made one hell of a terrible first impression. An A-hole who goes and lash out at the rental GF even though she's doing her job. A compulsive liar trying to save face so he won't look bad in front of his family and ends up making things difficulty for that rental GF. Worst of all, a pathetic doormat to his ex, allowing himself to be abused by her.

I'm not surprised folks are put-off already.

Aug 19, 2020 11:23 AM
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Like some users say in the comment section first impression matters, and for this show the MC lacks in being likeable or relatable for some of the viewers. And the unrealistic scenarios that the MC gets with the girls doesn't help the situation at all.

Also we as anime consumers if we do feel that the story is not worth the time thank god we are not forced to watch it all, unless you're an anime critics trying to get some views, like those who review chapter by chapter and you can see that their reviews are fake and completely sided by the general opinion of the people who really enjoy the show.

And yes for me the MC lacked being likeable and relatable, specially the force situation are not worth my time with this MC.

But why are people thinking that a 7 is a bad score? For me it would be from 6 (average for the waifus) and below due to how the story event are executed for the MC.

One last thing please refrain from mentioning the argument of it gets beter by Chapter 666, Volume 3.1416, Season 9; as a desperate intent to make people keep watching the anime, that argument doen't help the show at all specially in this season (referring to God of Highschool and Re; Zero season II).
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Aug 20, 2020 9:32 AM
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It feels unearned. The term simp has honestly devolved into a buzzword that feels like legitimate incel speak, like yeah some of the memes are funny but this term has about the same power as cuck. Which is to say, little.
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The whole show is a large dose of cringe. The MC is very immature which doesn't help, i don't think he's a realistic representation of a man his age. That said I dont think the girls are exempt either. His ex is a manipulative bitch and the rental girlfriend pimps herself out to anyone who pays.

The MC has no self respect and neither do any of the girls. I dont think its particularly well written either, but its like watching a slow motion train wreck and I can't look away.
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Crashmatt said:
The whole show is a large dose of cringe. The MC is very immature which doesn't help, i don't think he's a realistic representation of a man his age. That saod I dont think the girls are exempt either. His ex is a manipulative batch and the rental girlfriend pimps herself out to anyone who pays.

The MC has no self respect and neither do any of the girls. I dont think its particularly well written either, but its like watching a slow motion train wreck and I can't look away.
you're the first person I've seen that doesn't think Chizuru as perfect. No offense.
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I find this funny how people say the characters are unrealistic and garbage. Have they even seen real people? These characters aren't that bad compared to what happens in real life. And obviously by hearing the inner thoughts of the MC we could picture him as an assholes, though in his behavior he's not so bad. I'm sure by knowing everyone's inner thoughts they would seem more evil than what they seem from the outside.

The problem with this anime is not the lack of realism. This anime is too realistic it hits us too close on our past experiences.

Couldn't agree more. And the more extreme are the hate posts towards MC the more it gets accurate to anything you said.
And he is not even that bad, exactly like you said.
I feel that most people here would love to see yet another cynical rude edgy outsider as MC. Then he would be "realistic".
Dub = fake crap. Always.
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Crashmatt said:
The whole show is a large dose of cringe. The MC is very immature which doesn't help, i don't think he's a realistic representation of a man his age. That saod I dont think the girls are exempt either. His ex is a manipulative batch and the rental girlfriend pimps herself out to anyone who pays.

The MC has no self respect and neither do any of the girls. I dont think its particularly well written either, but its like watching a slow motion train wreck and I can't look away.
you're the first person I've seen that doesn't think Chizuru as perfect. No offense.


Chizaru certainly isn't perfect. The fact she rents herself out is proof of that.
Aug 21, 2020 12:58 PM

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Kazuya is absolutely a piece of trash who is becoming more and more irredeemable each episode BUT does that mean the anime isn't fun to watch? No. Does that mean that the other characters aren't interesting? No.

I feel like the anime is good enough to kind of ignore what a moron Kazuya is so for me I still like it even though I can't stand him haha
Aug 21, 2020 1:32 PM

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I don't like Kazuya for multiple reasons, but he does have some good qualities like when he saved Chizuru. He cares about other people's feelings, which is a good trait to have, but of course, it's also a negative to have. I think Kazuya is really relatable and that has a lot of people ticked off.

For example, when he cries about his ex dumping him and not getting over it. The one scene that did it for me was the bar scene where his ex opened up old wounds like it was nothing and Kazuya did absolutely nothing to defend himself and just took it.

So, to answer the question, does this show deserve hate due to the MC, I don't think so. However, I can understand why the show's score will be affected by the MC's actions.
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Honestly I'm actually quite fond of him so far, dude definitely had a fair amount of bruh moments but also some moments of character I liked. I at least find him more interesting than the usual romance MC for both good and bad things.

I expected a lot worse considering the hate he gets from source readers, but the anime is still very early on in the story so he has a lot of room to get as unberable as they say. No complaints so far anyways.
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to me the main character is one of the most realistic characters, and really very geeky, but the female character is actually very fictional. For me, this anime is just entertainment and doesn't need to be related to real life, because the type of girl like in this anime is very very unrealistic.

to me this anime is purely fanservice
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to me the main character is one of the most realistic characters, and really very geeky, but the female character is actually very fictional. For me, this anime is just entertainment and doesn't need to be related to real life, because the type of girl like in this anime is very very unrealistic.

to me this anime is purely fanservice
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Honestly I'm actually quite fond of him so far, dude definitely had a fair amount of bruh moments but also some moments of character I liked. I at least find him more interesting than the usual romance MC for both good and bad things.

I expected a lot worse considering the hate he gets from source readers, but the anime is still very early on in the story so he has a lot of room to get as unberable as they say. No complaints so far anyways.


Did you guys say something mildly positive about Kazuya? THAT MUST MEAN YOU'RE A SIMP REEEEEEEE.

Nah just kidding. There's moments were i have cringed, but really i just find him more fleshed out than the majority of romcom and harem mcs where they're perfect in every way, nevermind how such a character like say...hachiman wouldn't work in this show. I don't know i ain't no kazuya fan, i just find most of the hate unearned. Most of the hate are from anime onlys and he actually gets better in the manga.

I don't think he's a saint, but still it's weird seeing people complain about every little thing he does even when the show never paints it as okay.
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Honestly, I think the MC is super annoying. I just wanna punch him in the face. However, I don't think it's fair to give this show a 1 or 2 just because of him. Yes he is horrible and annoying, but just him alone doesn't make this show complete trash.
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There should be a third option 'who tf cares'.
Aug 21, 2020 10:29 PM
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i stop it at episode 6, the more i watch, the more i hate this anime... the mc and heroine is same... wtf, she want they fake relationship ended, but she help him to make it worse. with they really WEAK reason to keep their relationship, the story now doesn't make any sense for me now. But some people love this kind of thing, it's okay. At least when compare to another fake relationship, nisekoi is have good reason about it, even though i don't really like the ending, but i can take it.
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The only thing I hate here is the fcking MC. Can't really hate the show itself because the girls are cute. So I think the show doesn't deserve hate but the MC does. (though I think I don't have the right to say that since I dropped the manga a long time ago because of the MC lol.)

I'm only watching this just to see Chizuru and Ruka getting animated btw.
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I just can't understand what do they Hate about the MC..........I mean...Sure there is nothing to Like him about but why so Much Hate???

I Detest those people who hate any Character for a Really Stupid Reason...... for example Sakura...... People Dislike her cuz they think it would make them look, Experienced Anime watchers...

If you don't like Kazuya's personality then Please tell me how would you have like to see him Act in such Situations.......Bold? Confident? or Mature you would say?
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You can hate a character all you want, disliking him is a valid reason to dislike a show. I've dropped a show in the past before because it had a terrible MC that I could not stand, despite really enjoying pretty much every other aspect of the show.

If someone dislikes a show, any reason is valid. If they hate the MC and that makes them dislike the viewing experience cause they can't stand him and thus they give it a low score, that's valid.

Every reason possible to dislike a show is valid, weather the show "deserves" it or not is irreverent, since that's also a pretty pointless statement, the show doesn't deserve anything, people can take whatever they want from it and enjoy or hate it as much as they want, as long as they're being true to how they feel about it then it's fine.

I like the show, and think it's a shame the score is so low, but if people dislike it then they dislike it and that's fine, regardless of the reason. I can still enjoy the show even if others hate it.
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If you don't like Kazuya's personality then Please tell me how would you have like to see him Act in such Situations.......Bold? Confident? or Mature you would say?


Well, "as a person of his age" would be a good start. I would actually be more understanding of Kazuya if he were, like, 14 or 16. But, when you're 20 and go to college already, you should begin acting somewhat like a grown-up. Which, at minimum, should include the ability to control your libido and try to look at girls as somewhat more than just sexy bodies.

But, you know, I don't dislike Kazuya because he's a crappy person per se. I've seen plenty of deeply flawed MCs which worked out greatly in the context of their stories. What I hate about Kanojo Okarishimasu (and, by extension, Kazuya I guess) is how the story makes him step up in his relationship with girls (at least with Mizuhara and that other girl he just met in ep. 6) by saving them and, well, be "kind" (putting this in brackets because me and the show clearly have different understandings of this word, but I digress).

Not only is this utterly unrealistic, but it's also a really bad and unfortunate message to give which borders on escapism. We don't live in the Middle Ages anymore. You don't grow up, let alone get a girl to fall in love with you, by jumping off a ship to save her. You grow up (and get girls to fall in love with you and people to like you in general) by becoming mature, confident, understanding of the people around you, and capable of behaving in society in a more general sense. Yes, it's probably harder, but that's how things work in this world. There're no shortcuts to maturity, unfortunately.

In short, while Kazuya is kinda unlikable in many ways, it's how the plot accomodates his flaws and gives him more than he deserves that rly pushes him into "hate sink" territory for me and many others.

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I like the show, and think it's a shame the score is so low


I dunno what your meter for what a "good score" is, but 7 is still a good score - and, frankly, a LOT more than I'd give this show. It does sadden me that there're so many actually good shows with less than a 7/10 MAL average while this sits at 7.22. But then again not every show has the luck of receiving free 8s, 9s and 10s from ppl who have hardly watched any good anime in their life.

I mean, just from this season alone, both Deca-Dence and Houkago are much better shows overall and the latter was even below 7 until recently.
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Well, "as a person of his age" would be a good start. I would actually be more understanding of Kazuya if he were, like, 14 or 16. But, when you're 20 and go to college already, you should begin acting somewhat like a grown-up. Which, at minimum, should include the ability to control your libido and try to look at girls as somewhat more than just sexy bodies.


Okay, I Understand your Point here. But if that were the case......He wouldn't have rented a girlfriend.......Then he wouldn't have gotten into such situations..........and This Show would not have been made. DUHH??

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Not only is this utterly unrealistic, but it's also a really bad and unfortunate message to give which borders on escapism. We don't live in the Middle Ages anymore. You don't grow up, let alone get a girl to fall in love with you, by jumping off a ship to save her. You grow up (and get girls to fall in love with you and people to like you in general) by becoming mature, confident, understanding of the people around you, and capable of behaving in society in a more general sense. Yes, it's probably harder, but that's how things work in this world. There're no shortcuts to maturity, unfortunately.


Well, it is a Rom-Com Anime, What else do you expect to see?
Rom-Com Anime are based around Funny Romantic Situations between a Girl and a Boy. That's What gives Viewers Pleasure in watching it. They fantasize themselves having the same Situations.



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I dont blame the main character, because due to the long predicted trends for Japan, its a sad state of affairs when my fellow man in any part of the world cannot form a relationship with a woman, especially an amorous one.

The problems inherent in Japan have been building for almost 40 years as was literally forecasted by their own government. The amount of people that are in or have ever been in anything amounting to a relationship is ridiculously low for the modern world, and the numbers of marriages and even worse child births are among the lowest in the world too. Hell by some metrics the low birth rates in Japan are comparable to where successful births were for ancient humans thousands of years ago. And its only getting worse.
So though I instinctively hate the premise, and pity the main character, its still kinda fascinating in a way to have this glimpse into a large facet of the japanese social experiences ( or lack thereof). A cruel person would say its like watching captive animals not breed and slowly go extinct...Not I though. But the premise IS technically based on real, serious problems in the world that are getting more wide spread beyond just the lands of Nippon/Japan.
Luckily its just an anime, so one can let their guard down. lol CIAO for NOw
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Archfiend836 said:
Zarator said:
Not only is this utterly unrealistic, but it's also a really bad and unfortunate message to give which borders on escapism. We don't live in the Middle Ages anymore. You don't grow up, let alone get a girl to fall in love with you, by jumping off a ship to save her. You grow up (and get girls to fall in love with you and people to like you in general) by becoming mature, confident, understanding of the people around you, and capable of behaving in society in a more general sense. Yes, it's probably harder, but that's how things work in this world. There're no shortcuts to maturity, unfortunately.


Well, it is a Rom-Com Anime, What else do you expect to see?
Rom-Com Anime are based around Funny Romantic Situations between a Girl and a Boy. That's What gives Viewers Pleasure in watching it. They fantasize themselves having the same Situations.


What else would you expect to see ? Let me use another RomCom as a comparison. Kaguya-sama is also a RomCom about the comedic situations between a Girl and a Boy and their friends. However unlike Kanojo it's more of a give/take relationship between the two MCs and both look foolish enough times. It's comedic setup on why they can't confess is also fairly reasonable, given both their social standings.
What Zarator criticises here is not the fact that this show is a RomCom, but rather that the character balance is uneven and so the relationships that are build up in this show are disjointed.

Also why would anyone fantazise doing idiotic things and embarassing themselves in the process ?
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Archfiend836 said:

Okay, I Understand your Point here. But if that were the case......He wouldn't have rented a girlfriend.......Then he wouldn't have gotten into such situations..........and This Show would not have been made. DUHH??


As I stated in my post, I'm okay with having a deeply flawed character if the story demands one. In fact, I've seen plenty of even more dysfunctional or weird MCs before. The problem, to me, is not much with the MC being trash but with the story accomodating him to ridiculous extents.

I wouldn't honestly mind it if the MC repeatedly failed because of his shortcomings, like Tomoko in Watamote. Or if the MC found that one character who, for some odd chemistry, manages to kickstart his growth process and turn him into a better person, like Toradora. But I really get no enjoyment when the show resorts to the oldest and most trite (and wrong) tricks in the book to create "development", such as when Kazuya jumps off the ship to save Mizuhara. I would have understood a scene like that if it had been used to make Kazuya realize that he, in fact, has feelings for Mizuhara. But the way the show makes Mizuhara change her attitude towards Kazuya like that is, again, ridiculous. It's the sort of crap I'd rather leave to Z-list romances like in Highschool of the Dead.


Well, it is a Rom-Com Anime, What else do you expect to see?
Rom-Com Anime are based around Funny Romantic Situations between a Girl and a Boy. That's What gives Viewers Pleasure in watching it. They fantasize themselves having the same Situations.


First of all, just because an anime is a "Rom-com" doesn't mean they have to be downright stupid or "trope-y". Toradora, Kimi ni Todoke, Kokoro Connect, Golden Time etc. all manage to blend romance and comedy without giving up on having well-rounded characters or a real/serious plot.

But even if we look at the sillier half of romcoms, there're plenty of anime on that note that show you can get funny without getting downright stupid/boring/predictable like Kanojo does, such as Saekano, Kaguya-sama, Nozaki-kun etc.

Also, as a side note, I personally feel that such unsympathetic premises work best only if you veer more towards the drama side. Shows like Watamote, Scum's Wish or even School Days, work because while the MCs are crappy people, the anime itself doesn't cut them any slack and actually calls them out on their shortcomings in very brutal and overall sensible ways (although you might argue that School Days does go a bit too far).

On the other hand, you have shows like Hajimete no Gal, Masamune-kun and, well, Kanojo Okarishimasu who start with an unsympathetic premise but don't even attempt to redeem the char except in the most escapist, overdone and unbelievable ways.

You're free to have fun with this but please let's not pretend there's no better entertainment out there to enjoy.
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No, I just think the MC is just like a weebs that does'nt even have life but want a girlfriend, it just more realistic than any other MC
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Hrybami said:
I find this funny how people say the characters are unrealistic and garbage. Have they even seen real people? These characters aren't that bad compared to what happens in real life. And obviously by hearing the inner thoughts of the MC we could picture him as an assholes, though in his behavior he's not so bad. I'm sure by knowing everyone's inner thoughts they would seem more evil than what they seem from the outside.

The problem with this anime is not the lack of realism. This anime is too realistic it hits us too close on our past experiences.

Couldn't agree more. And the more extreme are the hate posts towards MC the more it gets accurate to anything you said.
And he is not even that bad, exactly like you said.
I feel that most people here would love to see yet another cynical rude edgy outsider as MC. Then he would be "realistic".


I wouldn't be surprised if the amount of hate toward the MC would decrease if he was an actual cynical asshole. Oh wait, people already totally want horribly rude MC.

I guess some people aren't ready for too much realism or too much politic into their anime. They want to forget humans are weak and flawed creatures. Either they are denying the reality or they haven't seen a living human for years.
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Ohh yeah it does deserve a low score. It's like you're saying death note With out light yagami being a badass antagonist
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Hrybami said:

I wouldn't be surprised if the amount of hate toward the MC would decrease if he was an actual cynical asshole. Oh wait, people already totally want horribly rude MC.

I guess some people aren't ready for too much realism or too much politic into their anime. They want to forget humans are weak and flawed creatures. Either they are denying the reality or they haven't seen a living human for years.


You know, in real life women don't fall in love with you just because you save their life and/or act like a barely decent human being-err, I mean, "being kind".

Or, to put it in other terms, the character himself is "realistic". The way other chars around him act (especially the girls) is... not.
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Hrybami said:
rsc-pl said:

Couldn't agree more. And the more extreme are the hate posts towards MC the more it gets accurate to anything you said.
And he is not even that bad, exactly like you said.
I feel that most people here would love to see yet another cynical rude edgy outsider as MC. Then he would be "realistic".


I wouldn't be surprised if the amount of hate toward the MC would decrease if he was an actual cynical asshole. Oh wait, people already totally want horribly rude MC.

I guess some people aren't ready for too much realism or too much politic into their anime. They want to forget humans are weak and flawed creatures. Either they are denying the reality or they haven't seen a living human for years.


You have a point sir.
I wouldn't mind a MC that is an A-hole. Some animes are great with this and some don't. This is one of them. Honestly don't see anything wrong with this adaptation. Animation, music and story compared to manga is respectful.
If you don't like it - it's just not YOUR anime.
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If you don't like it - it's just not YOUR anime.


This line would bear more weight if people weren't capable of providing examples of MCs that are a-holes or rude (btw Kazuya isn't exactly an a-hole or rude to begin with so I'm not sure where this comparison comes from) which are still better or preferable to Kazuya.

Unless, that is, you basically want to default to "it's just not YOUR anime" for any kind of criticism of what you like.
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