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Apr 28, 2020 4:01 AM
#1
I want people to explain to me the appeal of Tower of God. We will be discussing first episodes. Excuse my writing it is 5 am and I can’t sleep. Tower of God’s first episode. Main character with almost no personality. The world is just a tower. it’s mysterious but it seems like the characters know so much more than I do. I don’t want to be drip fed context. Why should I be curious? Death Note first episode. Light obtains the death note and murders a person with it. It’s a set up for an intriguing premise. Light and Ryuk have personalities. The first episode establishes enough for people for people to be able to speculate on what will happen next. Attack On Titan First episode. Establishes the world. A city with three sets of walls. Eren aggressively hates Titans he wants to kill them all. This is both personality and motivation. It also raises the question of weather or not his hatred is productive. The Titans attack. His mom his brutally eaten alive. My Hero Academia. Deku’s Dream is established. We can emphasize with his struggle because he’s passionate. I also want to point out that Death note and AOT aren’t even in my top 20. |
Apr 28, 2020 5:32 AM
#2
I'm not a reader of the manhwa or anything, I just came to say why are some people are acting like are forced to watch this show ? I'm enjoying this anime and I'll continue to watch it, and for those who don't enjoy it, just drop it. I haven't many shows to begin with, but I really don't expect very good things from few episodes when the series is pretty long ( more than 400 chapters ). I definitely won't disagree on the fact that main character is a bit disappointing side of the show, but so far we have seen almost equally of other characters too. The blue haired guy is pretty interesting Character, so does the crocodile. So far what I heard is that main character is purposely written like that, and I'm sure he will get some development, otherwise I don't think this series would have gotten this popular to even receive an anime adaptation. I'm more than fine with the main character if other characters are interesting just like MHA. I'm not a big fan of Deku but his does more than fine in MHA too. Deku has his goal of becoming No. 1 hero, and he passionately works for it, So far Bam/Yoru just want to save the girl, and he did fight that monster in the first episode, he too seems passionate about his goal. And since the girl already appeared in recent episode, I'm sure his goal might change or something |
Apr 28, 2020 5:59 AM
#3
Man its getting old i mean so many threads either watch or drop |
Apr 28, 2020 6:14 AM
#4
1Kyo said: Regardless of whether or not Death Note and AoT are your favorites, both had some of the greatest first episodes Anime has ever seen, whereas the weakest point of ToG is the way it starts. When I first read the Webtoon, it took me four attempts to make it past the first 15 chapters (which equal the first three episodes of the Anime), and that's when I started enjoying it, but only for the same reasons why I enjoy other typical shounen Anime. It is only the last episode of this season that I realized ToG is more than a generic shounen. Here's my advice: The fourth episode is the first good episode. If you're still completely uninterested after the first four episodes, then drop the show. If you're at least a little interested after the first four episodes then keep at it, because the season finale is absolutely worth it. I couldn't agree more. ToG takes its time to introduce characters in season 1 before it establishes a huge world with many more characters around the already known characters in season 2 while developing Bam as a character. There are a few anime and manga that start off weak until they dive into a deep world, develop their cast of characters or introduce interesting new characters, which makes them become better and better over time. One Piece and Gintama are both great examples of anime and manga that start off boring (at least imo), but become amazing. Although ToG is a lot more similar to One Piece in that aspect. I still listed Gintama because it's a great example of an anime/manga that starts off incredibly boring and ends up becoming one of the best anime I've ever seen. |
Apr 28, 2020 10:32 AM
#6
Tapertrain said: The world is just a tower. it’s mysterious but it seems like the characters know so much more than I do. I don’t want to be drip fed context. drop the show, clearly not for you. |
Apr 28, 2020 10:48 AM
#7
Tapertrain said: I want people to explain to me the appeal of Tower of God. We will be discussing first episodes. Excuse my writing it is 5 am and I can’t sleep. Tower of God’s first episode. Main character with almost no personality. The world is just a tower. it’s mysterious but it seems like the characters know so much more than I do. I don’t want to be drip fed context. Why should I be curious? Death Note first episode. Light obtains the death note and murders a person with it. It’s a set up for an intriguing premise. Light and Ryuk have personalities. The first episode establishes enough for people for people to be able to speculate on what will happen next. Attack On Titan First episode. Establishes the world. A city with three sets of walls. Eren aggressively hates Titans he wants to kill them all. This is both personality and motivation. It also raises the question of weather or not his hatred is productive. The Titans attack. His mom his brutally eaten alive. My Hero Academia. Deku’s Dream is established. We can emphasize with his struggle because he’s passionate. I also want to point out that Death note and AOT aren’t even in my top 20. You compared it to the 2 most popular series on this site. Lmao. Do you complain like this in the forums of the 532143241 other series on this site? Most shows don't start off amazingly. Rather, most get better over time. Also, a good first episode DOES NOT equal a fantastic series. It's just a good episode. lol. I do think of Attack on Titan as a near-masterpiece tho, but Death Note fell off at the end imo. |
Apr 28, 2020 11:22 AM
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Apr 28, 2020 11:54 AM
#9
There is a difference between a character that has no personality bcs of bad writing and a character that has no personality on purpose, just like Baam. He grew up locked in a cave with no opportunity to develop his personality or have dreams and with almost no life experience other than his contact with Rachel. He is a blank page. He will grow as a person as he climbs the tower and meets new people, faces new challenges and learns new things. If you are not okay with this type of character, then you should drop the series like other users have said. |
Apr 28, 2020 12:02 PM
#10
I love interacting with threads/seeing them on MAL in general, but these kind of threads have made me feel 50 years older mentally. I'm so bored of this. |
Apr 28, 2020 12:12 PM
#11
Hmm...I can see where your annoyance is coming from. But like the other users said, TOG season 1 is a lot of exposition. It’s not gonna give you everything from the start and Bam’s character is like that on purpose so that you can see his growth later on. Bam grows gradually as a character later on and if we get a green light for season 2 then you’ll see that. But, honestly, I’m just gonna state this: if you don’t like the show after the four episodes that aired then drop it. If you still want to watch then continue. At this point, I’ve seen too many threads on MAL complaining about TOG. |
Apr 28, 2020 1:01 PM
#12
Tapertrain said: I want people to explain to me the appeal of Tower of God. We will be discussing first episodes. Excuse my writing it is 5 am and I can’t sleep. Tower of God’s first episode. Main character with almost no personality. The world is just a tower. it’s mysterious but it seems like the characters know so much more than I do. I don’t want to be drip fed context. Why should I be curious? Death Note first episode. Light obtains the death note and murders a person with it. It’s a set up for an intriguing premise. Light and Ryuk have personalities. The first episode establishes enough for people for people to be able to speculate on what will happen next. Attack On Titan First episode. Establishes the world. A city with three sets of walls. Eren aggressively hates Titans he wants to kill them all. This is both personality and motivation. It also raises the question of weather or not his hatred is productive. The Titans attack. His mom his brutally eaten alive. My Hero Academia. Deku’s Dream is established. We can emphasize with his struggle because he’s passionate. I also want to point out that Death note and AOT aren’t even in my top 20. You mean you want to know why Bam doesn't have a personality? Well it's written purposely. Actually he isn't aimless. He wants to find Rachel and is quite passionate about it. He certainly doesn't have anything other to wish for except Rachel's companionship. Will he change? He will but slowly as he reboots from Rachel's ideals or by gaining more experience. About the world, actually as a webtoon reader, I'm actually not sure myself because it's huge. And we learn as Bam learns like in rpg, you learn more as your character progresses. So might be annoying but the world is massive and it has so many unique places. I won't be able to explain everything in 10 pages and that's what makes tog interesting. As you learn little by little instead of massive info dump. If you are not patient enough or can't enjoy slow build ups then I'd suggest to drop it. By the way you won't get anything from season 1 as it's prologue and you begin to explore the world after 2/3 arcs of season 2. Come back if it gets a season 2. But season 1 has some good moments storywise and it'd show in couple more episodes. If done correctly, it can be damn enjoyable too and Bam's personality gets a massive boost or should I say author begins to focus on Bam's personality. The next test would be interesting. |
Apr 28, 2020 1:24 PM
#13
How can he have any personality when the only thing we know that the only person in his life was Rachel |
Apr 28, 2020 2:48 PM
#14
1) "Main character with no personality"? No shit, Sherlock. The only thing he remembers is spending time in a cave with this other girl, he literally has no other memories and doesn't know a purpose in life. What do you expect? For him to suddenly develop some kind of personality? To suddenly gain OP powers? If you're looking for a show like that where characters are given stuff right away without needing any character development or training, don't watch it, simple as that. Go watch a show like No Game No Life or something. 2) "It’s mysterious but it seems like the characters know so much more than I do"? Well duh, they lived their lives in the tower? There's only been four episodes so far, why are you complaining about that? Obviously there's gonna be more world building and the focus of the first season is going to focus on that. Again, if you're too impatient to watch a show that starts off slow because it has 500+ chapters to explore everything in such a complex world compared to a measly 100-150 chapters for Death Note and AOT, don't watch it. 3) WHY are you comparing it to those anime? It's like comparing apples and oranges. Like I stated before, the world in Tower of God is waaayyy more complex. Besides, you *do* know what Bam's goal is. To find Rachel and maybe climb the Tower with or without her. What else do you need to be spoon fed to you in the first few episodes, and why would you even want that in the first place? It gets hella boring to watch a show if you can predict what happens in the next few episodes. My god, so many of these kinds of threads make me want to bang my head against a wall. |
"As promised, all that you seek, all that we desire, is prepared up there. On top of the Tower." |
Apr 28, 2020 4:58 PM
#15
Well considering it probably took 200-400+ chapters for the source material’s story to be allegedly top-tier storytelling, I’d get the kind of appeal it intends, but I’m gonna still say that the adaptation is still underwhelming even as just as a prologue. Also, keep in mind, there are many people who defend the slow buildup of this series, yet criticize the same approach with many other shows, similar or not......sooooo, yea....there’s a clear sense of biasedness here that was inevitably gonna come with it considering the success of the manga. |
Apr 28, 2020 5:59 PM
#16
ToG appeal is for the latter, not the beginning. The shows you mentioned have among the strongest beginnings (except MHA which is, decent? I guess). Hype isnt built for nothing, but I wont go full biased defense on ToG, so if you want to give it a try and see why many of us consider it top-tier, then go for it, if no then drop it. Maybe it doesnt suit your taste! :) |
Apr 28, 2020 6:21 PM
#17
What the duck did you just ducking say about [TOWER OF GOD], you little nitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in anime taste, and I've been involved in numerous binge watching of anime, and I have over 300 confirmed review. I am trained in code geass warfare and I'm the top weeb in the entire US weaboo forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will rage the duck out with saltiness the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my ducking words. You think you can get away with saying that shift to [TOWER OF GOD] over the Internet? Think again, ducker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of weebs across the USA and your IP is not being traced right now cause I don't know how to do that shit, so you better prepare for the storm. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your anime tastes. You're ducking lead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can tell you over seven hundred ways, that you are wrong, just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in anime, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States manga library and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable tastes off the face of the continent, you little normie. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your ducking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn norm. I will rage and cry all over you and you will drown in it. You're ducking bead, kiddo. |
Apr 28, 2020 6:51 PM
#18
ianis-namikaze said: What the duck did you just ducking say about [TOWER OF GOD], you little nitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in anime taste, and I've been involved in numerous binge watching of anime, and I have over 300 confirmed review. I am trained in code geass warfare and I'm the top weeb in the entire US weaboo forces.(...) I know it is a meme, but the same could be said about those complaining this anime "doEsN't DeServe thE atTention Its GeTTinG" like you have the credentials to speak for everyone about taste or story building. |
Apr 28, 2020 6:53 PM
#19
Still don't understand why this show is overhated in MAL |
Хайде, хайде, хайде, това е първата зона, брато, първа зона, първа зона, добре, добре, добре, това става тук горе, отива тук горе, само спокойно, само спокойно... Ха, отдясно е, навсякъде отдясно отдясно къде е дясното ти о да добре добре добре тихо мълчаливо не успях да се съсредоточа върху това ЕХ ТЪПАК КОГАТО СИ БАВНО БАВНО ... ой е путката на моето момиче прасе куче, аз Чувствам се добре, о, мамо, *шамар*, какво е това госпожице татко- |
Apr 28, 2020 8:49 PM
#20
MarcusRomain said: Still don't understand why this show is overhated in MAL It's just the vocal minority, if you look at the stats you'll see that most people like it |
Apr 29, 2020 1:45 AM
#21
Ryuseishun said: Well considering it probably took 200-400+ chapters for the source material’s story to be allegedly top-tier storytelling, I’d get the kind of appeal it intends, but I’m gonna still say that the adaptation is still underwhelming even as just as a prologue. Also, keep in mind, there are many people who defend the slow buildup of this series, yet criticize the same approach with many other shows, similar or not......sooooo, yea....there’s a clear sense of biasedness here that was inevitably gonna come with it considering the success of the manga. Have you read the source? Because the latter half of S1 and beginning of S2 + some arcs in hell train are top tier story telling. By then, most people are already hooked and invested enough that some weaker arcs (which every long running story will have at some point) can be given a pass to a point. |
Inferno792Apr 29, 2020 1:50 AM
Apr 29, 2020 3:52 AM
#23
Inferno792 said: Ryuseishun said: Well considering it probably took 200-400+ chapters for the source material’s story to be allegedly top-tier storytelling, I’d get the kind of appeal it intends, but I’m gonna still say that the adaptation is still underwhelming even as just as a prologue. Also, keep in mind, there are many people who defend the slow buildup of this series, yet criticize the same approach with many other shows, similar or not......sooooo, yea....there’s a clear sense of biasedness here that was inevitably gonna come with it considering the success of the manga. Have you read the source? Because the latter half of S1 and beginning of S2 + some arcs in hell train are top tier story telling. By then, most people are already hooked and invested enough that some weaker arcs (which every long running story will have at some point) can be given a pass to a point. Unfortunately I'm not that deep into s1 yet. I'm only about where the anime is as of right now. I need to catch up. |
Apr 29, 2020 6:01 AM
#24
AllIsManga said: 1) "Main character with no personality"? No shit, Sherlock. The only thing he remembers is spending time in a cave with this other girl, he literally has no other memories and doesn't know a purpose in life. What do you expect? For him to suddenly develop some kind of personality? To suddenly gain OP powers? If you're looking for a show like that where characters are given stuff right away without needing any character development or training, don't watch it, simple as that. Go watch a show like No Game No Life or something. 2) "It’s mysterious but it seems like the characters know so much more than I do"? Well duh, they lived their lives in the tower? There's only been four episodes so far, why are you complaining about that? Obviously there's gonna be more world building and the focus of the first season is going to focus on that. Again, if you're too impatient to watch a show that starts off slow because it has 500+ chapters to explore everything in such a complex world compared to a measly 100-150 chapters for Death Note and AOT, don't watch it. 3) WHY are you comparing it to those anime? It's like comparing apples and oranges. Like I stated before, the world in Tower of God is waaayyy more complex. Besides, you *do* know what Bam's goal is. To find Rachel and maybe climb the Tower with or without her. What else do you need to be spoon fed to you in the first few episodes, and why would you even want that in the first place? It gets hella boring to watch a show if you can predict what happens in the next few episodes. My god, so many of these kinds of threads make me want to bang my head against a wall. Rdxrchi said: How can he have any personality when the only thing we know that the only person in his life was Rachel look mum, i found people with actual brains on MAL what a rare occurence can i make a wish now? |
Apr 29, 2020 9:56 AM
#25
1. Death Note was a genius-level detective story, it's storyline was amazing. Maybe ToG is just inferior in that aspect. But ToG's forte is just different. It has a gargantuan world and insane amount of characters. A good author can demonstrate how perfect a story is in the very first episode. But to get a sence of how big a world and character cast are, you just have to wait and endure longer. The sad part is, 13 episodes 100% won't be enough. In that aspect, ToG is much more similar to Bleach (or, maybe, Naruto). After all (sorry if it offends anybody!), it is a shounen manga. And to be good, the anime (manga already is) of this type does need to be just as long as Bleach, which it'll never be, I'm afraid. It's the opposite of Death Note, which should have stopped at 25th episode. 2. Attack on Titans' 1st episode was good, I agree with you. Better then ToG. Then, in my opinion, it gradually got worse and worse. I'd say, it's somewhat overrated. On the contrary, ToG becomes better with time. A very personal opinion, about which I'm not even sure: the funny thing is, AoT has a similar approach of slowly building a big complex world with a large character cast - but not big and complex enough, and it does that too late, and is just bad at that. It's one more title which should have stopped while it was good, which was actually before it started building up the world. 3. My Hero Academia? Seriously? XD Nothing to say here. ...ah, sorry: "Deku’s Dream is established. We can emphasize with his struggle because he’s passionate." - Bam's Dream is established. We can empathize with his struggle because he’s passionate. Seriously, he is as passionate as it gets, and his dream is as empathizable as possible (you've meant empathize, not emphasize, right?). |
wasternneApr 29, 2020 10:04 AM
Apr 29, 2020 12:52 PM
#26
SethBigBoss said: MarcusRomain said: Still don't understand why this show is overhated in MAL It's just the vocal minority, if you look at the stats you'll see that most people like it Interesting, as I only ever see fans of the source material hyping it, and even the top reviews are actually describing mainly the webcomic, not actually reviewing the anime. |
You all need to watch Nami. |
May 1, 2020 3:31 AM
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May 1, 2020 4:05 AM
#28
Nobody explained to me why the show is interesting. I am genuinely curious. |
May 1, 2020 4:19 AM
#29
Tapertrain said: Nobody explained to me why the show is interesting. I am genuinely curious. Because it isn't. Just the usual shounen hype casuals/webtoon fanboys inflating the average score. |
May 1, 2020 4:48 AM
#30
This is honestly as good as Hunter Hunter so far, I stopped watching at episode 3 of the anime and decided to instead go read the source. I'm up to S2 and EP 16 of the webtoon and it's seriously got the same appeal as hunter hunter, also with some of the elements a lot in common with made in abyss, however with made in abyss you're going down and with tower of god you're going up, however it retains that same "game like" progression that you feel as you explore new areas. In my opinion the adaption missed a lot of the intrigue and while I'll still watch each episode to see it animated I'd say the webtoon is far superior. |
May 1, 2020 4:49 AM
#31
dc22 said: Yes, I'm sure hunter hunter is also a bunch of shounen hype casuals that inflated it's average score....OK... lmaoTapertrain said: Nobody explained to me why the show is interesting. I am genuinely curious. Because it isn't. Just the usual shounen hype casuals/webtoon fanboys inflating the average score. |
May 1, 2020 5:10 AM
#32
dc22 said: Tapertrain said: Nobody explained to me why the show is interesting. I am genuinely curious. Because it isn't. Just the usual shounen hype casuals/webtoon fanboys inflating the average score. oh trust me i have a strong aversion to shonen action shows, but even i agree that this is really good. |
May 1, 2020 10:23 AM
#33
Cneq said: dc22 said: Yes, I'm sure hunter hunter is also a bunch of shounen hype casuals that inflated it's average score....OK... lmaoTapertrain said: Nobody explained to me why the show is interesting. I am genuinely curious. Because it isn't. Just the usual shounen hype casuals/webtoon fanboys inflating the average score. lmao imagine putting this on the same tier as HxH |
May 1, 2020 10:45 AM
#34
abystoma2 said: SethBigBoss said: MarcusRomain said: Still don't understand why this show is overhated in MAL It's just the vocal minority, if you look at the stats you'll see that most people like it Interesting, as I only ever see fans of the source material hyping it, and even the top reviews are actually describing mainly the webcomic, not actually reviewing the anime. And so ? What's your point ? Is what you've seen more important/concrete than the stats lmao? |
SoukaTheRealMay 1, 2020 10:48 AM
May 1, 2020 10:47 AM
#35
Tapertrain said: I want people to explain to me the appeal of Tower of God. We will be discussing first episodes. Excuse my writing it is 5 am and I can’t sleep. Tower of God’s first episode. Main character with almost no personality. The world is just a tower. it’s mysterious but it seems like the characters know so much more than I do. I don’t want to be drip fed context. Why should I be curious? Death Note first episode. Light obtains the death note and murders a person with it. It’s a set up for an intriguing premise. Light and Ryuk have personalities. The first episode establishes enough for people for people to be able to speculate on what will happen next. Attack On Titan First episode. Establishes the world. A city with three sets of walls. Eren aggressively hates Titans he wants to kill them all. This is both personality and motivation. It also raises the question of weather or not his hatred is productive. The Titans attack. His mom his brutally eaten alive. My Hero Academia. Deku’s Dream is established. We can emphasize with his struggle because he’s passionate. I also want to point out that Death note and AOT aren’t even in my top 20. I could never empathise with deku, he's an awful protag in a worse story |
May 1, 2020 11:45 AM
#36
SethBigBoss said: abystoma2 said: SethBigBoss said: MarcusRomain said: Still don't understand why this show is overhated in MAL It's just the vocal minority, if you look at the stats you'll see that most people like it Interesting, as I only ever see fans of the source material hyping it, and even the top reviews are actually describing mainly the webcomic, not actually reviewing the anime. And so ? What's your point ? Is what you've seen more important/concrete than the stats lmao? I'm implying that they aren't actually judging the content of the anime, they are hyping it solely based on liking the source material. |
You all need to watch Nami. |
May 1, 2020 12:14 PM
#37
abystoma2 said: SethBigBoss said: abystoma2 said: SethBigBoss said: MarcusRomain said: Still don't understand why this show is overhated in MAL It's just the vocal minority, if you look at the stats you'll see that most people like it Interesting, as I only ever see fans of the source material hyping it, and even the top reviews are actually describing mainly the webcomic, not actually reviewing the anime. And so ? What's your point ? Is what you've seen more important/concrete than the stats lmao? I'm implying that they aren't actually judging the content of the anime, they are hyping it solely based on liking the source material. So the score is only due to the readers ? |
May 1, 2020 1:53 PM
#38
SethBigBoss said: abystoma2 said: SethBigBoss said: abystoma2 said: SethBigBoss said: MarcusRomain said: Still don't understand why this show is overhated in MAL It's just the vocal minority, if you look at the stats you'll see that most people like it Interesting, as I only ever see fans of the source material hyping it, and even the top reviews are actually describing mainly the webcomic, not actually reviewing the anime. And so ? What's your point ? Is what you've seen more important/concrete than the stats lmao? I'm implying that they aren't actually judging the content of the anime, they are hyping it solely based on liking the source material. So the score is only due to the readers ? Mostly just because of the readers, yes. |
You all need to watch Nami. |
May 1, 2020 2:31 PM
#39
[quote=abystoma2 message=59719495] SethBigBoss said: abystoma2 said: SethBigBoss said: abystoma2 said: SethBigBoss said: MarcusRomain said: Still don't understand why this show is overhated in MAL It's just the vocal minority, if you look at the stats you'll see that most people like it Interesting, as I only ever see fans of the source material hyping it, and even the top reviews are actually describing mainly the webcomic, not actually reviewing the anime. And so ? What's your point ? Is what you've seen more important/concrete than the stats lmao? I'm implying that they aren't actually judging the content of the anime, they are hyping it solely based on liking the source material. So the score is only due to the readers ? Mostly just because of the readers, yes.[/quote abystoma2 said: SethBigBoss said: abystoma2 said: SethBigBoss said: abystoma2 said: SethBigBoss said: MarcusRomain said: Still don't understand why this show is overhated in MAL It's just the vocal minority, if you look at the stats you'll see that most people like it Interesting, as I only ever see fans of the source material hyping it, and even the top reviews are actually describing mainly the webcomic, not actually reviewing the anime. And so ? What's your point ? Is what you've seen more important/concrete than the stats lmao? I'm implying that they aren't actually judging the content of the anime, they are hyping it solely based on liking the source material. So the score is only due to the readers ? Mostly just because of the readers, yes. I’d disagree there are many people who like or love ToG. Just because you don’t think the score deserves the rating dosen’t mean others don’t. Literally just go on r/anime’s threads and you will see a shit ton of people who like the series. |
May 1, 2020 2:33 PM
#40
cookies2135 said: I’d disagree there are many people who like or love ToG. Just because you don’t think the score deserves the rating dosen’t mean others don’t. Literally just go on r/anime’s threads and you will see a shit ton of people who like the series. My point is that most of them are just readers of the original work. The anime doesn't offer much to the newcomers. From my observation, the reception by the non-readers is mostly on the level of "This is just another battle shounen" with some amount of confusion mixed in, while the webcomic readers are like "10/10 anime of the season stunning masterpiece trust me it gets better after 300 chapters". |
abystoma2May 1, 2020 2:37 PM
You all need to watch Nami. |
May 1, 2020 2:34 PM
#41
abystoma2 said: SethBigBoss said: abystoma2 said: SethBigBoss said: abystoma2 said: SethBigBoss said: MarcusRomain said: Still don't understand why this show is overhated in MAL It's just the vocal minority, if you look at the stats you'll see that most people like it Interesting, as I only ever see fans of the source material hyping it, and even the top reviews are actually describing mainly the webcomic, not actually reviewing the anime. And so ? What's your point ? Is what you've seen more important/concrete than the stats lmao? I'm implying that they aren't actually judging the content of the anime, they are hyping it solely based on liking the source material. So the score is only due to the readers ? Mostly just because of the readers, yes. And you based yourself on what ? 11 000 readers put a score for the source material and for the anime we're close to 40 000 users who put a score so what you're saying doesn't match with the numbers |
May 1, 2020 2:40 PM
#42
SethBigBoss said: And you based yourself on what ? 11 000 readers put a score for the source material and for the anime we're close to 40 000 users who put a score so what you're saying doesn't match with the numbers ToG is *the* most read korean webtoon. The manga entry was added to the MAL quite recently, so it's no wonder not all of ToG fans use MAL to track their webcomic progress. There's much more ToG fans than just the number of ratings on the manga entry. |
You all need to watch Nami. |
May 1, 2020 2:44 PM
#43
Imagine being a hater so much you think the only people rating this as a 10/10 is a source reader. Lmao |
May 1, 2020 2:45 PM
#44
abystoma2 said: SethBigBoss said: And you based yourself on what ? 11 000 readers put a score for the source material and for the anime we're close to 40 000 users who put a score so what you're saying doesn't match with the numbers ToG is *the* most read korean webtoon. The manga entry was added to the MAL quite recently, so it's no wonder not all of ToG fans use MAL to track their webcomic progress. There's much more ToG fans than just the number of ratings on the manga entry. If that's the case why all those readers don't go put a score in the source material entry and would just do it for the anime ? |
May 1, 2020 2:50 PM
#45
SethBigBoss said: abystoma2 said: SethBigBoss said: And you based yourself on what ? 11 000 readers put a score for the source material and for the anime we're close to 40 000 users who put a score so what you're saying doesn't match with the numbers ToG is *the* most read korean webtoon. The manga entry was added to the MAL quite recently, so it's no wonder not all of ToG fans use MAL to track their webcomic progress. There's much more ToG fans than just the number of ratings on the manga entry. If that's the case why all those readers don't go put a score in the source material entry and would just do it for the anime ? That kind of thinking is too complex for him. |
May 1, 2020 7:06 PM
#46
dc22 said: Have you even read the source? I went into this with no prior knowledge and not being a fan at all [I actually hate reading manga] and I can objectively say by s2 ep26 of the web toon it's easily on par with HxH. Cneq said: dc22 said: Tapertrain said: Nobody explained to me why the show is interesting. I am genuinely curious. Because it isn't. Just the usual shounen hype casuals/webtoon fanboys inflating the average score. lmao imagine putting this on the same tier as HxH And with it being like HxH it follows the same exact problems HxH had, the hunter exam arc was arguably terrible and not a whole lot happened and after moving past where this anime will probably conclude it's basically the same deal, worst arc in this series. Although I'd argue this has more plot progression by the end of these 13 anime eps and s2 of the webtoon has already setup one of the most original plotlines I've seen. |
May 1, 2020 8:09 PM
#47
Tapertrain said: I want people to explain to me the appeal of Tower of God. We will be discussing first episodes. Excuse my writing it is 5 am and I can’t sleep. Tower of God’s first episode. Main character with almost no personality. The world is just a tower. it’s mysterious but it seems like the characters know so much more than I do. I don’t want to be drip fed context. Why should I be curious? You are correct, he has absolutely no personality and his motivation is dog shit, but that is the point. Tower of God contrasts Bam's blank-canvas naivety, dog shit motivation and immense power with the regulars who aren't naive, who hold strong and righteous motivations, but are nevertheless weak and will probably die in the tower. This is one of the shows/webtoons' most consistent themes, that you can't always get what you want regardless of how righteousness your actions may be, and that life is unfair. Additionally, Bam's naivety is built up throughout this season and should culminate in a certain plot-twist in the season finale. Personally, I didn't think much of the series until said plot-twist came up in the webtoon and it made me go "Ohhh so that is where this webtoon is going" as it sets up the direction of the story for the rest of the series. Bam is a dynamic protagonist unlike the protags in the shounen you listed (except for Eren in later episodes of AOT), so the Bam you see now is extremely different to the Bam in later seasons. Also, saying that the 'Tower of God' is just a tower is like saying that the Abyss in 'Made in Abyss' is just a hole. There is a lot more going on than what meets the eye and if you came to the show with the desire to be fed all the lore within the first four episodes than you have come to the wrong place. The source material for 'Tower of God' is longer than that of 'HunterXHunter' so don't suspect that all your questions will be answered so soon. P.S. I am not completely up to date with the Webtoon. |
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May 1, 2020 8:44 PM
#48
abystoma2 said: cookies2135 said: I’d disagree there are many people who like or love ToG. Just because you don’t think the score deserves the rating dosen’t mean others don’t. Literally just go on r/anime’s threads and you will see a shit ton of people who like the series. My point is that most of them are just readers of the original work. The anime doesn't offer much to the newcomers. From my observation, the reception by the non-readers is mostly on the level of "This is just another battle shounen" with some amount of confusion mixed in, while the webcomic readers are like "10/10 anime of the season stunning masterpiece trust me it gets better after 300 chapters". I rated 8 which is below the current rating, so that's just personal opinion. But not all readers just rate it 10/10. But that's not the issue, fans will naturally boost their favorite shows and that has been happening for every popular show. Eventually new comers will balance the rating as how big of a fanbase it is, it can't possibly beat the whole audience. But as the rating of Tog is increasing, I think most are starting to like the show and will like the rest if the studio does a decent job. |
May 2, 2020 12:02 AM
#49
ZenithXAbyss said: Imagine being a hater so much you think the only people rating this as a 10/10 is a source reader. Lmao Not all, most of them. Also, says the guy having Tower of God comic in top 10 and rating the series 10/10, a prime example of what I'm talking about. Cneq said: Have you even read the source? I went into this with no prior knowledge and not being a fan at all [I actually hate reading manga] and I can objectively say by s2 ep26 of the web toon it's easily on par with HxH. lmao imagine putting this on the same tier as HxH x2 |
You all need to watch Nami. |
May 2, 2020 12:26 AM
#50
abystoma2 said: Have you read the source? No clue how you can even say that when you have no clue what the series even is, that's just blind hate. I've already said the anime itself is subpar and the content that it will cover is like judging HxH if it ended on the hunter exam arc, stop being ignorant.ZenithXAbyss said: Imagine being a hater so much you think the only people rating this as a 10/10 is a source reader. Lmao Not all, most of them. Also, says the guy having Tower of God comic in top 10 and rating the series 10/10, a prime example of what I'm talking about. Cneq said: Have you even read the source? I went into this with no prior knowledge and not being a fan at all [I actually hate reading manga] and I can objectively say by s2 ep26 of the web toon it's easily on par with HxH. lmao imagine putting this on the same tier as HxH x2 |
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