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Apr 20, 2020 10:03 PM
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Is it best when the original source material is followed faithfully, or can it be better when tweaked?

Are there any examples of adaptations that were better when it strayed from the original storyline?
Apr 20, 2020 10:31 PM
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It varies from case to case. If the manga is good/has lots of fans/fans love the manga, there is no need to change anything.
Change should come in moderation in times when a specific event can't be adapted well, so the anime staff ads something to correspond the medium

For ex kimagure orange road, the manga had a following but still the staff made different story lines and changed some character quirks (madoka wasn't a delinqunent in the manga, she was just a bad girl who smoked cigs), I think it was dumb but the anime was nice in its own way.

In conclusion, change as little as possible and add only good stuff that compliments the source material
Apr 20, 2020 10:35 PM
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Rurouni Kenshin - Trust and Betrayal added more symbolism into the story and took out the very few comedic tones the manga had in the arc. In addition, some of the flashbacks that were in the story prior the adapted arc were seamlessly put into the story and overall enhanced the experience. The OVA really feels like a Historical war drama at its core

Speaking of Rurouni Kenshin, the Reflections OVA is... interesting but not the ending many were hoping for. To me, it felt a bit overkill in terms of the sadness

So to answer your question, it honestly depends on how its done. Here are two examples (from the same franchise) with vastly different results
Apr 20, 2020 10:38 PM
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aisakafuyumi said:
Is it best when the original source material is followed faithfully, or can it be better when tweaked?

Are there any examples of adaptations that were better when it strayed from the original storyline?

Anime is animated while "source material" is usually still illustrations or text
Hard not to stray from source
Apr 20, 2020 10:45 PM
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Love_and_Peace said:
aisakafuyumi said:
Is it best when the original source material is followed faithfully, or can it be better when tweaked?

Are there any examples of adaptations that were better when it strayed from the original storyline?

Anime is animated while "source material" is usually still illustrations or text
Hard not to stray from source

I think they mean source material as in manga. There have been animes that cut out or change content from manga
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Apr 20, 2020 11:41 PM
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Naw, It’s better to stay as faithfully to the source material as much as possible. very rare that making any major changes to the story ever goes right.

I think people tend to remember "bad" adaptations which have deviated from the source more than good ones because they might have already been fans and were invested in the world. Seeing something you love get "ruined" can be quite disheartening.

Then again, there are many skilled artists who can take up source material and apply their own creative vision which elevates rather than diminishes the story.
Apr 20, 2020 11:47 PM
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Why adaptations would even want to change stuff in the source material still boggles me till this day. This literally just angers the fans which is the main demographic these adaptations are targeted to lul.

Is it really that hard to stick to the source material that much? Unless if by tweaking means adding scenes to improve the narrative or taking out useless content in the source material then by all means go for it. Otherwise, just adapt it faithfully for fuck's sake. Just look at the difference in reception between FMA and FMAB. While the former is still good in its own right, the latter is just way more well-received by the general populace.
Apr 21, 2020 12:12 AM
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Different medium, different priorities. If I wanted to see a faithful recreation of the source material, I'd just read the source material. A panel to panel recreation isn't successful, and you'll just end up with an inferior version by trying to recapture everything as it were.

Adaptions are adapting to a different medium, so if things are all the same then something has gone awry and it's unlikely to be a good viewing experience.
Apr 21, 2020 12:31 AM
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I mostly don't appreciate adaptation cut stuff from the source material because it's often damaging and more like sacrifice than for improvement.

Adding stuff is much better than cutting stuff, but I prefer faithful adaptation.

However if changes is made to make watching experience better, it's ok. For example the order of the events in SnK manga and anime is a bit differrent, and I think the anime did the right thing in changing it.
Apr 21, 2020 12:34 AM
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As long as the story stays good, there is no problem in altering the story of the source material for the adaptation. But, yeah, 90% of the time this has led to make the adaptation worse than its source material.
Apr 21, 2020 12:51 AM
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Well a simple question that could answer your question is, does tweaking the source material make the story better in any way or shape? If by tweaking you get rid of plotholes and/or set events in such a way that it can be considered to be better then yes it should be tweaked. If not then it's always better to stick to the original source material.

I also think it's important to clarify whether the show that might be tweaked is ongoing or complete. If it's ongoing, my personal opinion is that it shouldn't be tweaked because unbeknownst to us, maybe the author is planning on adding something to the lore later that could be undermined by the tweaking. As for completed works, I guess tweaking the story could only be for the better.
Apr 21, 2020 12:57 AM

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Tweak the source material unless it's impossible to do it. I can't understand why people acting like every source material is masterpiece and there is no need to change them. No changes are just "safer"
Apr 21, 2020 1:05 AM
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The majority of adaptions include changes, it's just that when improvements are made noone will complain about it, and smaller changes aren't that noticeable.
In fact, I'd say it is important and good to change stuff, depending on how the source material is. Otherwise you end up with the exact same thing twice and that's.. pretty boring if you ask me.

For example, as far as I am aware of, they added the other main character into The Millionaire Detective – Balance: UNLIMITED, otherwise Daisuke would have been all alone. And that is an awesome change, the duo both work great together and I'm so much looking forward to more.
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A great adaptation doesn't just copy from one medium to another, it adapts the show to the new format and the director gives it his spin to enhance the experience of the show.

However there are many issues that usually make the adaptation less desirable.
The anime format of 12 episode blocks can compromise the ideal length of the show.
The director vision is too narrow cutting out what I or others LIKED out of the source material. Not only in content but also in interpretation of the story elements where perhaps the source material allows more freedom but the adaptation establishes the director's interpretation as the "right" one.
The studio might not have that much commitment into the show and you feel it's "low effort".

The best adaptation I can think of is Ping Pong the Animation. It improves the storyline, it improves the build up to the twist, it keeps all the ongoing conflicts in the manga BUT it also adds more fitting and meaningful conflict and character development for a character that in the manga was a bit overlooked.
The art remains somewhat true to its source while being well animated and having great visual impact, even tho a lot of people dislike the style but that's another thing.
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Apr 21, 2020 2:14 AM
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Tweak it as much as the medium change requires.

Also tweak if the original is questionable.
Apr 21, 2020 2:19 AM

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If the change is the order of the chapters then it can make the show better for an animated show. Look at Mob Psycho and Vinland Saga, two extremely faithful shows but the order of the chapters isn't the same as the manga.


Then there are changes that nobody would notice without knowing what to look for and don't change the story like Hunter x Hunter (2011) where CRT monitors were changed to LCD monitors. Adding a few jokes in transition scenes can work too in most shows like elevator lady from Hunter x Hunter (1999).


Changing plotlines is a more touchy subject, look at all the anime that caught with the manga and ended with anime-only-endings like Claymore & Erased.
There are also shows that greatly alter source material but end with something good like Parasyte which changed the 90s manga to 2015 anime or when "All You Need Is Kill" had a film adaptation with Tom Cruise called Edge of Tomorrow (which is actually really good but it is nothing like the source material).
Apr 21, 2020 2:24 AM

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If they tweak it to add cringy and bad content, no thanks.

I don't care about modification, as long as the anime stays true to the themes of the manga.
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Apr 21, 2020 2:44 AM
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Personally, I like when anime which adapts old manga changes setting to fit with current era, unless we are talking about really old setting.

Apr 21, 2020 2:53 AM

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most light novels are kinda amateurish so it's ok if the anime adaptation takes the good parts of the story and leaves out the junk that a skilled writer would not have included in the first place.
Apr 21, 2020 3:01 AM

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If the adaption turns out to be like Rosario to Vampire.
Then no, don't change the soruce material at all, it will just turn out to shit.

Rosario to Vampire got one of the worse adaption, it coud turned out to be a damn good battleshounen but it didn't.

Apr 21, 2020 3:51 AM
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Fans should have very little say in this. The written page is a different way to tell a story than animation. You clearly need to change things up. Just thinking about the Harry Potter movies. They were bogged down with fan service from the books that made no sense. When you adapta property from a different medium you need changes. It is inevitable.
Apr 21, 2020 4:09 AM

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Tweak but don't stray. follow the same plot (unless the plot is bad) but freely change events around, shift focus and add scenes where needed to work best in animation.
Apr 21, 2020 4:20 AM

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I like it when there's new spin to it, no matter how good or terrible it is. I respect those directors who want to work their own ideas to make the anime version looks refreshing at least I'd say. Of course, the directors that just want to work for some easy cash grab and just follow the source ain't wrong either but for someone like me who don't want to compare the source and the adaptation as much as possible and just wish to enjoy both different mediums in a different way, I'll always lean to vote for having new stuff for the adaptation.

KyoAni is probably the best at doing all this way of renditioning(Hyouka, Amaburi, Violet Evergarden, etc.).
Apr 21, 2020 4:25 AM

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Well, it entirely depends on the source material.
Apr 21, 2020 4:32 AM

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aisakafuyumi said:
Are there any examples of adaptations that were better when it strayed from the original storyline?


Ghost in the shell. The first movie removed all of the comedy from the first volume and dramatically changed the designs while movie 2, SAC and arise are original stories as far as I know. I haven't read the source material but it seems that the anime versions are generally considered to be better.
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Apr 21, 2020 6:16 AM

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80% of the time sticking to the source material is the better choice.

Tweaking things in its adaptation is not worth the effort. If however done appropriately, which is rare, I would praise the staff in charge.
Apr 24, 2020 12:00 PM
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Either way, it depends on the movie/anime, in the end.. irrespective of the modification or tampering of the original work.
Apr 24, 2020 2:49 PM

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Unless the original content benefits to the source material or tweak the mistakes to make the adaptation look better than the original. They are better off being faithful to the source.

For example, This is a non anime example Power Rangers RPM, they took the silly aspect of Go-Onger and make it a post apocalyptic survival series. And I have to say this is an example of Adaptation>Source.

Apr 24, 2020 3:11 PM
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Browsed through some untranslated raw manga of anime I had seen, like Attack no 1 and Plawress Sanshiro and I even without reading Japanese I see that the story strays a lot from the anime with different characters, events and story progression.

eg in Attack no 1


Plawress has even more changes going on,

Despite that the anime adaptation is very good and original
Apr 25, 2020 4:43 AM

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A good adaptation is when they don't cut content, as for original anime ending I don't mind because it should be creators who makes the decision.

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