42caio said: Supersky said: Honestly while I'm a fan of Nux, this shit he's trying to do is just making the admin's jobs harder and more time consuming. Sure it might seem funny, but it's a totally illegitimate and bogus score now compared to its already 7.57 score. I'm betting they're just gonna remove all the 10's that were put up on the day his video was uploaded. This is just utter nonsense You and many here seem to assume the only reason this is happening is because of this guy. I honestly don't even know who he is. I heard people were boosting Reviewers' score for shits and giggles, then I come to MAL and most posts I see are people acting all self-important and lashing out at people who like the anime (calling them names, making assumptions about their personal lifes and beliefs, etc), having meltdowns over how they're ruining MAL for not voting right on their personal user scores, and now the staff thinking it has any right to arbitrate which votes are legitimate or not. So I decided to give it a 10/10 because I'm legitimately ticked off by all this. I would not be surprised if many people were in the same boat as I am. I left MAL years ago and only returned last year because it's one of the few places left to talk about anime (that isn't a cesspool of shitposting, that is), but shit like this just make me think I'm better off among shitposters. You giving it a 10/10 just to spite them is not honesty and is just adding more nonsense to this fake score. And yes, it first started with the funimation mess and now Nux's video yesterday where he literally states to go onto MAL and make it the #1 anime on here Legit proof at 3:19 in his video where he said to go and give this anime a 10/10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmDKRf2bNCc and at 1:55 is the legitimate score of 7.64 before this got all out of hand. While it is hilarious, it is breaking the system and ruins parts of legitimacy that the site had for the other scores of the anime on this site. I'm enjoying the anime but even I can agree there are other ways to deal with this controversy without ruining the scoring system on the site. It's just gonna make developers get rid of the score altogether or change the way anime are scored to make sure fans and people who get told to do stupid shit by Youtubers don't do this again |
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Supersky said: it is breaking the system and ruins parts of legitimacy that the site had for the other scores of the anime on this site. If people using the system for its intended use is "breaking" it, then the Admins should just get rid of it. Personally, I don't see this "breaking." |
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Sarteck said: Supersky said: it is breaking the system and ruins parts of legitimacy that the site had for the other scores of the anime on this site. If people using the system for its intended use is "breaking" it, then the Admins should just get rid of it. Personally, I don't see this "breaking." I can agree with you there. Just get rid of all the mass number of 10 votes that came after Nux's video and it'll be fixed. But the way I see this breaking, is that the admins are gonna have to change the way anime is now rated on the site like how Captain Marvel was being protected on RT. This shit is just adding nonsense and unnecessary work to the admins. I agree it is a funny meme to witness, but long term more changes might be put in place to make sure this doesn't happen a second time |
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Supersky said: Getting rid of valid votes (like I said, people using the system for its intended use) doesn't seem like any kind of solution to me, tbh.Sarteck said: If people using the system for its intended use is "breaking" it, then the Admins should just get rid of it. Personally, I don't see this "breaking." I can agree with you there. Just get rid of all the mass number of 10 votes that came after Nux's video and it'll be fixed. But the way I see this breaking, is that the admins are gonna have to change the way anime is now rated on the site like how Captain Marvel was being protected on RT. This shit is just adding nonsense and unnecessary work to the admins. I agree it is a funny meme to witness, but long term more changes might be put in place to make sure this doesn't happen a second time If the admins want a scoring system but want to stop "certain anime fans" from being able to participate, fine by me, but it's their fault for not creating that in the first place. Personally, I would never trust a scoring system that was run with such elitism. |
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Zimmm said: Mudykip said: I notice that most of the 1 votes on FMAB now are also from people rating Ishuzoku Reviewers a 10. I wonder how MAL can even fix this one. It’s becuase Nux Taku(anituber) told his fanbase to make interspecies reviewers number 1. So now that it’s number 2, the accounts that have voted a 10 on this will also give FMAB a 1 to try to make this number 1. And yes becuase it is real people idk if MAL can fix it I hope they can do something I mean, it's not like FMA:B fans didn't do this several (and I mean, SEVERAL) times to maintain their first place, creating boost/downer accounts to no end. Seeing them in the receiving end is kinda funny lol I'm a legit account but I'll definitely give this a 10 for the meme, just like Pingu. |
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Danpmss said: I mean, it's not like FMA:B fans didn't do this several (and I mean, SEVERAL) times to maintain their first place, creating boost/downer accounts to no end. Seeing them in the receiving end is kinda funny lol I'm a legit account but I'll definitely give this a 10 for the meme, just like Pingu. This, honestly. FMA:B is my favourite anime but the fact people are so adamant to keep it at number one is really funny to watch. I honestly hope this new contender takes number one because it will be hilarious. God help the FMA:B community when AoT S4 comes or god forbid Steel Ball Run... |
| In regards to fixes, I think its really tough because these accounts are actual users and not bots (at least most of them). There are some clear trolls like the ones that are thrashing the fma score and, if you check the statistics of Ishuzoku Reviewers, a lot of people put the show on their 'completed' list even though the show is still airing. However apart from these, I don't think admins can do much else, it's just the power of a community. I've known of nuxtaku for a long while (some of his videos are actually pretty good and he does an anime podcast called Rant Café that I adore) and recently he has been building this almost cult like following so I'm not surprised this has escalated thus way. Tbf the show is still pretty good so I guess that's a plus? |
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MehmetY said: Again, you are trying to claim that we, Nux's fans, have no agency of our own, that we can't determine whether we like something or not.Writing a bot which will give 20K 1 or 10 votes to an anime by using your programming skills and using your fanbase to mob scoring on an anime are two sides of the same coin. Both of them are funny at start but if you exaggerate that and start to cause trouble for admins and moderators it won't be funny anymore. This event was funny for me at the beginning because I'm following MAL scores just for fun but this boosting thing went too far and started to causing trouble for admins and moderators, which isn't funny if you're a decent person. You're just wrong. |
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| quick sidenote - what the hell, my review got deleted I put a lot of effort into writing that... |
BlackFIFA19 said: Zimmm said: It’s becuase Nux Taku(anituber) told his fanbase to make interspecies reviewers number 1. So now that it’s number 2, the accounts that have voted a 10 on this will also give FMAB a 1 to try to make this number 1. And yes becuase it is real people idk if MAL can fix it I hope they can do something You can dig up the accounts and report them on a forum thread, which i dont remember what its called, and they will delete said accounts. Imagine mass reporting legitimate accounts for your own whims...D: I mean, if you look at the topic opened in the last 2 days you can count no more than 10-20 crybabies lamenting about this. So, 20k legitimate votes vs 20 crybabies...ofc the staff will listen to the latter. After all they're trolls. Yikes xD |
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| Actually it swings in various ways like here: https://myanimelist.net/profile/RafaelSilv2002 https://myanimelist.net/profile/BelkaMortadela https://myanimelist.net/profile/Nzjnsae |
BlackFIFA19 said: Zimmm said: It’s becuase Nux Taku(anituber) told his fanbase to make interspecies reviewers number 1. So now that it’s number 2, the accounts that have voted a 10 on this will also give FMAB a 1 to try to make this number 1. And yes becuase it is real people idk if MAL can fix it I hope they can do something You can dig up the accounts and report them on a forum thread, which i dont remember what its called, and they will delete said accounts. That thread is locked now. |
on Sury said: Actually it swings in various ways like here: https://myanimelist.net/profile/RafaelSilv2002 https://myanimelist.net/profile/BelkaMortadela https://myanimelist.net/profile/Nzjnsae In the end, I'm just happy that an over-the-top semi hentai series is at the top of MAL's catalogue and all of the salt it's bringing to people lol Too bad my poor Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu is also suffering from it tho |
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A lot of top rated anime suffered from downvoting and stuff in recent months. We track score development in the MSP Club. If you're interested in that kind of stuff check it out https://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=59197 |
Sury said: A lot of top rated anime suffered from downvoting and stuff in recent months. We track score development in the MSP Club. If you're interested in that kind of stuff check it out https://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=59197 Oh, that's really interesting, I'm definitely checking this out. |
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Cashbrash said: DaraSilverDragon said: quick sidenote - what the hell, my review got deleted I put a lot of effort into writing that... the fuck I dont even know where review button is You gotta click on the review tab on the show's page and you'll see the option to write one. |
DaraSilverDragon said: ... I also do consider it very much required viewing for sexually active anime fans, to be able to learn outside of their own perspective and become more competent partners. That might just be the most depressing thing I've ever read. |
terminador_2397 said: You gotta click on the review tab on the show's page and you'll see the option to write one. Yeah no, it was written and posted. It was up on the site, and showed up under my reviews on my profile ...now that's empty. |
DaraSilverDragon said: terminador_2397 said: You gotta click on the review tab on the show's page and you'll see the option to write one. Yeah no, it was written and posted. It was up on the site, and showed up under my reviews on my profile ...now that's empty. I was responding to Cashbrash when I typed that response. |
MehmetY said: Sarteck said: Again, you are trying to claim that we, Nux's fans, have no agency of our own, that we can't determine whether we like something or not. You're just wrong. Again, you're trying to claim every Nux fans are like you and they voted 10 after they saw there's a show like Ishuzoku Reviewers in Nux's video and watched it. Most of the Nux fans are just voted for fun after Nux said, "Let's vote 10 the Ishuzoku Reviewers." this is clearly a mob scoring. If you do a mob scoring like this on Metacritic or another big rating web site they'd ban your ass so hard that you even can't talk about that web site again. I want to quote something from another thread by another user: NotNuxPedigree said: Don't know where you got the impression that most people from that anime channel haven't watched the show. Nux's audience as an anime channel is largely the demographic that would watch this show. Even a the slightest passing glance at the channel would tell you that much. Your assumption that they didn't watch the show... I really do think that's something that needs to be backed up. If you're not implying that they didn't watch the show, then what you're doing is telling them what they like and don't like. |
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| People are freaking out over this series getting scored so high.. lol This series is legitimate 10/10 in my book.. Some groups need to stop trying to taste police and learn to deal. Cashbrash said: Reply from admin https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=245618&show=4750#msg59087935 And on what basis ? are you questioning the legitimacy of what users like and don't I'm sorry do you think you know better than the individuals what they like IF and I mean IF you are going to change scores tomorrow "illegitimate scores given by legitimate users" then you should change ratings for ALL OTHER ANIME as well based on that, you'll be no different from rotten tomatoes, if people like the show let them vote high How is that basis for ANYTHING IF you are going to change votes based on that then you better change ratings of ALL OTHER ANIME out there bc someguy voted FMA B 10 that might not be true, or other anime 1 A not very well known youtuber posted for jokes to rate this high on THEIR TWITTER they didn't even make a video the tweet has less than 2k likes and 300 retweets and you think that some person saying another thing on a whole different platform is brigading ? wtf I'm questioning your judgement here. that way we can relate any two unrelated things together as well why not do that That Admin reply is utter bullshit.. It amounts an escape clause for them going forward, any series that steps on the feel-feels of certain ideological groups, will get "corrected".. |
MehmetY said: Sarteck said: I want to quote something from another thread by another user: Your assumption that they didn't watch the show... I really do think that's something that needs to be backed up. If you're not implying that they didn't watch the show, then what you're doing is telling them what they like and don't like. Yeah, I'm sure the 10K people who set this show as completed yesterday definitely watched all 12 episodes of Ishuzoku Reviewers before it got released. Don't be dishonest. There are 2300 people who have the series set to "Completed." Looking at the first page alone shows that just as many people claiming to have "completed" it are rating it a 1 as those rating it a 10. |
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| So an anime that was at 7 got to a 10 after sb with 1m subscribers told them to make an account and put a 10 on the show he dictated...if that ain't a broken system then what is it. Don't take MAL scores seriously and you'll be fine. |
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MehmetY said: Sarteck said: Don't be dishonest. There are 2300 people who have the series set to "Completed." Looking at the first page alone shows that just as many people claiming to have "completed" it are rating it a 1 as those rating it a 10. It has 2300 completed now because MAL's system automatically changes the completed entries to "Watching 12/12 (or how many episode that anime has)" there's way too many people who set this anime as "12/12 episodes watched" Anyways, can't wait for FMA's toxic fanbase start to downvoting this anime after it surpass FMAB. It will be fun to watch this event turn into a fight between FMA and Nux fans. Btw at least add Crim to your favorites just for more fun. I still don't get where you're coming up with 10K. I also think it would be rather odd for someone to enter "12/12" for the episodes being a higher rate than those who would have just clicked "Completed" and have it automatically put "12/12." As far as the FMAB fanbase... I dunno, I never really understood inter-series fandom wars. I guess it's kind of like sports team rivalries? It just seems weird to me. (As far as adding favorite characters, man, I'd really have to sit down and adjust my lists before I did any of that. I haven't used this site in about 8 years. Everything's out of date.) |
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| re-posting an re-edit post mine, cuz i can't from laughing and just the "stingness", some are getting: What's wrong in the way you like anime, ecchi, h3ntai and all other stuff, while listening how others say "negative" comments like for example - "oh gosh, this persons makes me sick." or maybe "maybe we should just pummel it down and use our OTHER community to bring it down?" - cuz it gets in the way of ours? 'cuz oh no, it can't out number one our fanbase and is being touched WE CAN"T ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN! I just simply can't understand, how much and how many people like this - in the world exists. Feeding like pidgeons, from hands of others - taking in, the 'fake news' as 'facts'. Please Spare be the bravado. 'Cuz it's just show's how it really stings. Repeating my post again here: Man , am I just laughing my ass up - Lookin' at the piles of "garbage cans" that can only talk and talk and try to downvote This cute anime , which I Find great, hilarious and all the +18 stuff showed in its"uncensored version" is just Glorious. Personally I don't Like to cast any shit Talks and choose sides but the current stage of "SJW", "WOKE", "Funi addicts", and other acronyms that just is happening ... even now with VM and still no evidence or anything? - oh god , am I having an laughing of my own time. What's so even wrong in defending what you like? 'cuz other say other wise and how "it's not on my standards list"? Gosh that's just like I would take your sand Castle and copyrighted it. Sheesh Some peeps who try to help are just an treasure, but others just an "blockbusters" who dont even have their own opinions and just jump in and feed on others opinion , not even knowing - "whats on the line". Just Brilliant *clasping hands and drops the mic down* Personaly: i gave it an 10/10 and that my take on the piece of cake. either take it or leave. 'Cuz im not gonna powder my own cake with the "pepper of hate' Cuz THAT Community Demands It . Free speech! |
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MehmetY said: Well... then I guess some got deleted, because like I said, there's only 2,300 now.Sarteck said: I still don't get where you're coming up with 10K. I also think it would be rather odd for someone to enter "12/12" for the episodes being a higher rate than those who would have just clicked "Completed" and have it automatically put "12/12." As far as the FMAB fanbase... I dunno, I never really understood inter-series fandom wars. I guess it's kind of like sports team rivalries? It just seems weird to me. (As far as adding favorite characters, man, I'd really have to sit down and adjust my lists before I did any of that. I haven't used this site in about 8 years. Everything's out of date.) There was at least 10K completed at yesterday's total. FMAB fans are just bunch of children who can't stand to see their beloved series dethrones by any anime. I can't understand them too. As far as the FMAB thing, meh. I seriously loved the series. I'm a fan, but I doubt I'd fit in with the fans you're describing. The vocal part of any fandom, it seems, are the assholes. |
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| Whatever has happened within a few hours is spectacular, to say the least. There is a group of people who has given Reviewers a perfect review - and there might be many within them who has actually loved the show so far. As for me, I would give it a solid 8, just for the purity of the anime. It has a likable pool of main characters, lovable character designs (in the revealing fashion tho), decent art style, great comedy, nice op and ed, good pacing of episodes and hilarious voice acting. It serves as a great parody of hentai, while also bringing up the topic how sex can be used to unify people within and outside his/her race. However, it is also true that MAL is the most popular anime community, and newbies will find themselves in a dilemma when they see this widget series in rank #1 or #2. It (might) give them a wrong impression of anime in general. The fault does lie heavily on the rating system. Chihayafuru S3 was decent enough, but some people decided to spam its ratings, and MAL was totally vulnerable to this event. Maybe things will simmer down soon, but I think that despite all the funny memes and funi revolution, this phenomenon has a depressing side to it... And yes FYI, I don't personally depend on the MAL ratings for a show; guess why. |
Laplace_kunFeb 7, 2020 5:48 AM
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| They are going to do something by the end of February to tackle this problem. Let's see what happens |
| MAL scores have never been useful or reliable see low scores on: https://myanimelist.net/anime/11763/Sekai_de_Ichiban_Tsuyoku_Naritai https://myanimelist.net/anime/24705/Ore_Twintail_ni_Narimasu https://myanimelist.net/anime/38619/Joshikousei_no_Mudazukai https://myanimelist.net/anime/37979/Mahou_Shoujo_Tokushusen_Asuka |
| Nobody cares (or should care) about the majority of user reviews on this site, and I didn't care when I watched anime either. What really makes me cringe through every fiber of my being is this weird sense of belonging that fans of the current top shows have during this whole fiasco, they're practically playing elementary school war games. You like a show? Rate it accordingly, the individual reviews are mostly for the respective reviewers themselves. This is just another thing that diehard fans of certain shows can cling onto to beat their chests and have a weird sense of superiority for liking one show over another. |
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