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Jan 6, 2020 5:27 PM
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I want to get into the games. Somehow wasn't part of my childhood. Maybe me having been religious b4 had something to do with that. Sorry I'm very very very very late to the party lol.

But anyway, I'm going at it solo with no intention for Co-op. Diablo is cited by most to be better but I wonder. It seems built around co-op and doing it solo might prove to be too difficult, specially for my first playthrough.

Also give me which versions u think I should get for 2 and 3.
Jan 6, 2020 5:39 PM
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Story: Diablo 2 by far (you need to get the original game + Lord of Destruction). Check out median XL (fan-made) if you want even more skills/items/dungeons etc (but diablo 2 by itself is a fine game)

I played diablo 2 solo and with co-op and it's fun with both because it doesn't have a shit story like diablo 3
Jan 7, 2020 8:42 PM
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Don't, they're not fun. I played Diablo 3 and after hearing so many great things about the series it was such a massive disappointment. It's just a boring top down hack and slash game with minor RPG mechanics. Didn't even have a good story or soundtrack to makeup for the lackluster gameplay.
Jan 8, 2020 5:08 PM
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Kyotosomo said:
Don't, they're not fun. I played Diablo 3 and after hearing so many great things about the series it was such a massive disappointment. It's just a boring top down hack and slash game with minor RPG mechanics. Didn't even have a good story or soundtrack to makeup for the lackluster gameplay.


Oh I actually heard not so good things about Diablo 3 anyway. It seems like the first one, and even more so, Diablo 2 are what people are praising for being amazing. Not 3.
Jan 8, 2020 5:38 PM
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If you want the diablo experience then play diablo 2.
Your other option would be to wait for the new release because diablo 3 is extremely dumbed down and easy.
You can scale the difficulty but your first playthrough will be absolute shite even if you start a hardcore character with the highest available difficulty.
Jan 8, 2020 5:42 PM
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iluvtofu said:
Story: Diablo 2 by far (you need to get the original game + Lord of Destruction). Check out median XL (fan-made) if you want even more skills/items/dungeons etc (but diablo 2 by itself is a fine game)

I played diablo 2 solo and with co-op and it's fun with both because it doesn't have a shit story like diablo 3


Honestly OP this is the only advice you need. You shouldn't even read the thread any further.
Jan 8, 2020 5:44 PM
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midascruzer said:
If you want the diablo experience then play diablo 2.
Your other option would be to wait for the new release because diablo 3 is extremely dumbed down and easy.
You can scale the difficulty but your first playthrough will be absolute shite even if you start a hardcore character with the highest available difficulty.
midascruzer said:
iluvtofu said:
Story: Diablo 2 by far (you need to get the original game + Lord of Destruction). Check out median XL (fan-made) if you want even more skills/items/dungeons etc (but diablo 2 by itself is a fine game)

I played diablo 2 solo and with co-op and it's fun with both because it doesn't have a shit story like diablo 3


Honestly OP this is the only advice you need. You shouldn't even read the thread any further.


Ok, but what about diablo 1 then? Just skip it and go straight to 2?
Jan 8, 2020 5:51 PM
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Re_Z said:
midascruzer said:
If you want the diablo experience then play diablo 2.
Your other option would be to wait for the new release because diablo 3 is extremely dumbed down and easy.
You can scale the difficulty but your first playthrough will be absolute shite even if you start a hardcore character with the highest available difficulty.
midascruzer said:


Honestly OP this is the only advice you need. You shouldn't even read the thread any further.


Ok, but what about diablo 1 then? Just skip it and go straight to 2?


It's a good game but diablo 2 is better in almost every aspect.
Do you want to play diablo specifically or are you satisfied with any great rpg?
I can give you some great titles if you need any.
Jan 8, 2020 6:07 PM
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midascruzer said:
Re_Z said:


Ok, but what about diablo 1 then? Just skip it and go straight to 2?


It's a good game but diablo 2 is better in almost every aspect.
Do you want to play diablo specifically or are you satisfied with any great rpg?
I can give you some great titles if you need any.

Oh no. If it can be skipped then sure. Just like how I love White Album 2 but haven't even touched the original once.

I just thought I might miss some important details or Lore, or is that not an issue with Diablo. I wasn't even planning on getting up to 3 lol. From what I heard Diablo does have a story. Is the story standalone or nah?

Also, I'd love some recommendations. I mostly stick to my genre of turn-based RPGs but I would like to broaden my horizons a bit.
Jan 8, 2020 6:43 PM

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@Re_Z

If you want to know the full lore of the diablo franchise then go for it.
As i've said diablo 1 is a good game and diablo 3 isn't really necessary.

some titles you should check out if you want to get into action rpgs:
Path of Exile (it's getting an "expansion" in this or the next year)
Titan Quest
Torchlight I & II
Victor Vran
The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing
Grim Dawn

Wolcen: Lords of Mayhem (still in early access and the alpha was better than the beta version.)
Jan 10, 2020 7:35 PM

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Re_Z said:
midascruzer said:
If you want the diablo experience then play diablo 2.
Your other option would be to wait for the new release because diablo 3 is extremely dumbed down and easy.
You can scale the difficulty but your first playthrough will be absolute shite even if you start a hardcore character with the highest available difficulty.
midascruzer said:


Honestly OP this is the only advice you need. You shouldn't even read the thread any further.


Ok, but what about diablo 1 then? Just skip it and go straight to 2?


The story for diablo 1 is fine, BUT the gameplay is REALLY frustrating (e.g. static movement speed). I honestly just started at diablo 2 and didn't have any problems with the story. The opening cinematic tells you enough tbh
Jan 11, 2020 2:26 PM

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As mentioned: Diablo 2 Lords of Destruction. Sure, it's way easier when you have high-level buddies to help you level up, but with enough strategy and time, you can carry over on Nightmare and Hell mode as well

Jan 11, 2020 2:44 PM

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I've only played Diablo 3, some co-op with a friend, but mostly solo, and had a lot of fun with it.
Jan 11, 2020 3:14 PM
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The first Diablo is miles better than Diablo 2 will ever be. Same for 3, obviously.

The atmosphere is unmatched by any game ever created, except maybe Bloodborne.
Jan 11, 2020 10:21 PM

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Noboru said:
As mentioned: Diablo 2 Lords of Destruction. Sure, it's way easier when you have high-level buddies to help you level up, but with enough strategy and time, you can carry over on Nightmare and Hell mode as well



Try solo hell mode with sorceress. holy shit that's cancer
Jan 12, 2020 2:30 AM

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iluvtofu said:
Try solo hell mode with sorceress. holy shit that's cancer
I did and it's not impossible. It just takes longer. I was carried by some classmates I used to play it together for like 1-3 times at most. Even when several levels below them, my damage output could be on par with them as long as the enemies weren't immune against it

Jan 12, 2020 3:03 AM

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Kyotosomo said:
Don't, they're not fun. I played Diablo 3 and after hearing so many great things about the series it was such a massive disappointment. It's just a boring top down hack and slash game with minor RPG mechanics. Didn't even have a good story or soundtrack to makeup for the lackluster gameplay.

Diablo 3 is a massive turd made by Blizzard, a studio wich has barely no relation to the makers of the 1 and 2 (the defunct Blizzard NORTH), maybe pay attention to what people tell you.

OT: play the first one, one of the very best games ever. 2 is fine, tho long-ish and I can't care about the story. 3 is unbalanced horseshit, boring colorful Warcraft crap with the dumbest and most insulting story a sequel ever had.

D1's definitely one of the best games I ever played, and I'm not going to buy another Diablo after the pile of crap 3 was, and how Blizzard handled this whole thing. As far as I'm concerned Blizzard belongs in the trashcan alongside Bethesda.
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Deathko said:
Kyotosomo said:
Don't, they're not fun. I played Diablo 3 and after hearing so many great things about the series it was such a massive disappointment. It's just a boring top down hack and slash game with minor RPG mechanics. Didn't even have a good story or soundtrack to makeup for the lackluster gameplay.

Diablo 3 is a massive turd made by Blizzard, a studio wich has barely no relation to the makers of the 1 and 2 (the defunct Blizzard NORTH), maybe pay attention to what people tell you.

OT: play the first one, one of the very best games ever. 2 is fine, tho long-ish and I can't care about the story. 3 is unbalanced horseshit, boring colorful Warcraft crap with the dumbest and most insulting story a sequel ever had.

D1's definitely one of the best games I ever played, and I'm not going to buy another Diablo after the pile of crap 3 was, and how Blizzard handled this whole thing. As far as I'm concerned Blizzard belongs in the trashcan alongside Bethesda.


"Maybe pay attention to what people tell you" literally nobody told me it'd be a bad game, the reviewers were had almost nothing but praise for it. Btw if you're ever stuck wondering why you drive everybody around you away, maybe you should consider dropping the condescending attitude in exchange for actually acting like an adult. Far from the first time I've seen you display this kind of childish tone on these forums; grow up kid lol.
Jan 13, 2020 11:51 AM

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@Kyotosomo
>Listens to video games reviewers
>Wonders why people are condescending

Hey reviews say Fallout 3 and 4 are masterpieces, go try them (^:

I just like to be condescending with you and have no intention of keeping you around as a pet tbh
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Always start with the first game in a series, that way you can see the progression and improvements/QoL changes it has gone through and sometimes those would make it hard to come back to the older games, so D1: Hellfire > D2: LoS > D3: RoS.

Personally, they're alright. People fellate over Diablo 2 as the best game too much but it really shows it's age in a lot of ways and the story/writing wasn't really good at all, it's just okay at best. Diablo 3 is decent and really not as bad as people would make you think, I had more fun with Diablo 2 but don't really believe what people that are mad about it tell you, the quality isn't that far off, make your own conclusions without following mob mentality.

Personally D2 > D3 > D1 is how I would rate them from best to worst, D1 has a great atmosphere but everything else is very mediocre and has aged like milk.
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Jan 13, 2020 2:36 PM

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Instead of Diablo, I'd recommend checking out the "Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance" games on the PS2, as they're much better, and if you like them, try "Champions of Norrath," as it's extremely similar.

Jan 13, 2020 3:06 PM
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Deathko said:
@Kyotosomo
>Listens to video games reviewers
>Wonders why people are condescending

Hey reviews say Fallout 3 and 4 are masterpieces, go try them (^:

I just like to be condescending with you and have no intention of keeping you around as a pet tbh


Oh shit I must have really hit a nerve lol damn you're really upset about that sorry I didn't mean to hurt your feelings I was just trying to let you know how obvious it is your overcompensating for your treasure trove of personal issues IRL. I'm really sorry try not to cry too much about it okay babe );
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Deathko said:
Kyotosomo said:
Don't, they're not fun. I played Diablo 3 and after hearing so many great things about the series it was such a massive disappointment. It's just a boring top down hack and slash game with minor RPG mechanics. Didn't even have a good story or soundtrack to makeup for the lackluster gameplay.

Diablo 3 is a massive turd made by Blizzard, a studio wich has barely no relation to the makers of the 1 and 2 (the defunct Blizzard NORTH), maybe pay attention to what people tell you.

OT: play the first one, one of the very best games ever. 2 is fine, tho long-ish and I can't care about the story. 3 is unbalanced horseshit, boring colorful Warcraft crap with the dumbest and most insulting story a sequel ever had.

D1's definitely one of the best games I ever played, and I'm not going to buy another Diablo after the pile of crap 3 was, and how Blizzard handled this whole thing. As far as I'm concerned Blizzard belongs in the trashcan alongside Bethesda.


I wouldn't say that I won't by any diablo game after the third one.
Diablo 4 looks promising.
Jan 13, 2020 4:14 PM

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midascruzer said:
Deathko said:

Diablo 3 is a massive turd made by Blizzard, a studio wich has barely no relation to the makers of the 1 and 2 (the defunct Blizzard NORTH), maybe pay attention to what people tell you.

OT: play the first one, one of the very best games ever. 2 is fine, tho long-ish and I can't care about the story. 3 is unbalanced horseshit, boring colorful Warcraft crap with the dumbest and most insulting story a sequel ever had.

D1's definitely one of the best games I ever played, and I'm not going to buy another Diablo after the pile of crap 3 was, and how Blizzard handled this whole thing. As far as I'm concerned Blizzard belongs in the trashcan alongside Bethesda.


I wouldn't say that I won't by any diablo game after the third one.
Diablo 4 looks promising.

A Diablo game made by Blizzard is about as exciting as a Command and Conquer made by Electronics Arts. Same story, big publisher closes auxiliary studio around 2000 and starts cashing in on their best license, destroying it in the process. Command and Conquer died after a few installments, and given how stupidly bad Diablo 3 was at release (and it stayed like that with no patch and no PvP for a year - long enough for me to stop playing the game before it), I'd need to be a fool to give Blizzard another coin for that license.

Plus the fact that Blizzard was pretty much openly saying "We shat on the creators and fans heads with D3 but it sold more than anything else this year already lololol"... doesn't really make me want to trust them. I mean, the AAA industry isn't even hiding it anymore, they're merely shitting the most generic, uninspired, lazy, family-friendly garbage they can come up with, a few pics of pretty lightning effects and they're already making money with the preorders alone. Who cares about finishing a game or making it good when you're making benefits without even doing that?
DeathkoJan 13, 2020 4:17 PM
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Jan 13, 2020 4:34 PM

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@Deathko

Well, you are certainly right.
I don't trust them either but what I am willing to do is wait patiently for them to release the game and buy it if the game looks satisfactory.
I can't predict the games future nor can you but your concerns are justified.

and yeah C&C's fall is sad as it was one of my favourite RTS franchise.
The early games were good but the recent ones are garbage with the exception of red alert 3.
Jan 13, 2020 6:27 PM

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midascruzer said:
Deathko said:

Diablo 3 is a massive turd made by Blizzard, a studio wich has barely no relation to the makers of the 1 and 2 (the defunct Blizzard NORTH), maybe pay attention to what people tell you.

OT: play the first one, one of the very best games ever. 2 is fine, tho long-ish and I can't care about the story. 3 is unbalanced horseshit, boring colorful Warcraft crap with the dumbest and most insulting story a sequel ever had.

D1's definitely one of the best games I ever played, and I'm not going to buy another Diablo after the pile of crap 3 was, and how Blizzard handled this whole thing. As far as I'm concerned Blizzard belongs in the trashcan alongside Bethesda.


I wouldn't say that I won't by any diablo game after the third one.
Diablo 4 looks promising.


Yeah because the creative director for The Witcher and Cyberpunk may be working with blizzard for Diablo 4. I honestly hope that's the case because Diablo 3 was really garbage IMO; the story, the game play, the "plot twists", etc

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