| Tokyo - A Japanese comedy duo and their management company have apologized after the pair reportedly said during a live event that Japanese tennis player Naomi Osaka, who just won the Pan Pacific Open at the weekend, "needed some bleach." Japanese media said the duo, known as A Masso, made the remark during a Sunday event, the same day that Osaka lifted her first trophy since winning the Australian Open in January, and also said that "she is too sunburned." In separate messages carried on the website of their management company, Watanabe Entertainment Co Ltd, both women apologized for making "inappropriate, hurtful remarks" but did not refer to Osaka, who is Haitian and Japanese, by name. "Though we should have thought about it, we made remarks that hurt many people, something we will never do again," Ai Murakami wrote. "We sincerely apologize for making the specific person feel uncomfortable, as well as for everyone else connected to the event. We also sincerely apologize for causing trouble." Watanabe Entertainment, also without naming Osaka, added their own apology for "remarks inconsiderate of diversity in an era where diversity is respected," saying the duo had been severely warned and steps taken to raise their awareness of the issue. Neither Watanabe Entertainment nor Naomi Osaka's management office in Japan was immediately available to comment. Osaka, who will turn 22 next month, was born in Japan to a Haitian father and Japanese mother but moved to the United States when she was young. She has been widely hailed in Japan, which has traditionally seen itself as a racially homogeneous country, although successful mixed-race athletes such as Osaka herself, sprinter Asuka Cambridge and baseball pitcher Yu Darvish are challenging that image. In January, Japanese noodle company Nissin had to remove a controversial commercial in which a cartoon character depicting Osaka was shown with pale skin and light brown hair after it prompted an outcry. Nissin said it had not intended to "whitewash" Osaka and promised to pay more attention to diversity issues. https://japantoday.com/category/entertainment/tennis-japan-comedy-duo-apologises-after-reports-they-said-osaka-needs-bleach |
| It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person. |
| I wish Naomi Osaka would’ve represented the U.S. She’s lived the majority of her life in the U.S... She’s a U.S citizen... And quite frankly she’s more American than Japanese....I mean culturally of course. But, it was her choice. She’s a GREAT player, she’s gonna win many major titles. |
| Asuka Cambridge sounds like an anime name, a different universe asuka langley. |
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| Represent Japan and then to get tease by Japanese... Pretty bad joke... |
| I see, we are still in the era of political correctness. 10 years ago nobody would have said anything. Imho I find it funny. |
| NGL, this gave me quite the laugh lol. |
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| whats wrong in saying those mudbloods needs to look more like the nazi xenophobic ppl that japs are? also the companys statement Gorochu said: means they still dwell in the good old days past where and even now, actual standards of beauty exist.in an era where diversity is respected |
| The joke is stupid and juvenile. KuroudoAkabane said: whats wrong in saying those mudbloods needs to look more like the nazi xenophobic ppl that japs are? also the companys statement Gorochu said: means they still dwell in the good old days past where and even now, actual standards of beauty exist.in an era where diversity is respected Unhealthy standards, you got fat acceptance which is unhealthy and causes death and the pale and plastic look, which involve surgery and pills that can kill and disfigure (and you'd think that whitening pills would actually be safer with this trend still in vogue but it's not). |
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| That isn't surprising in the least. Japanese and Sub-Saharan African mixes are quite uncommon, and further, Japan is still a nation-state which views a fundamental part of the nation as linked to its ethnicity. Japanese nationality has an ethnic basis - to be Japanese is to not just be born in or live in Japan, but to be ethnically Japanese or particularly a Yamato person, along with speaking the Japanese language and all the other religious and cultural trappings. Sometimes even ethnic Japanese who have lived abroad for too long and are perceived as culturally Westernized can face ostracization as gaijin. It's not a settler country like the New World states (U.S., Canada, Australia, and New Zealand) that have embraced a civic nationalist concept of nationhood. Neither as official state doctrine nor in the popular consciousness of the citizens. And there's nothing wrong with that either. What I really don't care for is all these forced apologies on every topic under the sun by everyone in the public limelight the moment they step one toe out of line and don't adhere to some script. It's such a farce and tiresome routine to see repeated day in and day out. Anyone who doesn't espouse ideological conformity must go before the masses and "repent" like in the days of theocracy for even being suspected of having a non-kosher point of view or making an unapproved comment. It's so dampening to the human spirit to see this same old show. |
WatchTillTandavaSep 26, 2019 5:45 PM
| In case this goes a certain direction: It's not like racist jokes are not allowed in our culture, the problem people have with this is that it is seen as a genuine reflection of the cultural attitude. It's like those old cartoons that had racist caricatures that people look down on. We have mainstream shows like south park, with jokes that are more racist, but the joke is that it is controversial and not a real attitude. |
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Kamihimehunter said: There is something very wrong with that. It makes it harder for the country to grow and develop as a nation. The US had to come to terms with the fact that being an american was more than just being white and owning property. Its one of the main reasons why the US is among the most welcoming nations. Even I see people who immigrated from other parts of the world and settled in the US as Americans. Japan needs to come to terms with what being Japanese is really about. Japan has already come to terms with that. Just because others don't like their position on it, it doesn't mean said position doesn't exist. No two countries are on identical paths of historical development. They all have different trajectories. And nor are they guaranteed to arrive at the same destination, whcih is also natural and in my view, perfectly acceptable. The historical conditions between Japan and the U.S. are not even remotely comparable. The latter is one of the settler countries like I mentioned in my above post. Its whole genesis came from genocide and sustained acts of ethnic cleansing of the Amerindian population already existing on the North American continent and then the need to repopulate an enormous landmass. It's true that Anglo-Saxon Protestants were the founding elite and governing caste, but from the beginning there was a huge racial underclass imported in as slave labor and the solution for dealing with them after slavery was abolished could only be either killing them all, expelling them all, or eventually integrating them. The last option was begrudgingly chosen and implemented piecemeal over an extended period of time (basically a whole century from the end of the American Civil War in 1865 until desegregation in the 1960s) and during this time, more and more waves of immigrants were brought in to assist in the country's development in every sector from agriculture to the railroad network, including Scotch-Irish, Germans, Russians, Poles, and other Eastern Europeans; Jews, Italians, Greeks, Chinese, etc. Japan had no such experience and no such need, because it's a different country with a different history. There is a problem which arises immediately when people start thinking there is a one-size-fits-all model of governance and existence applicable to all countries, because there isn't, and forcing the issue will only lead to endless wars and conflict and is a big contributory source of global strife. Every sovereign country can determine its own path. |
WatchTillTandavaSep 26, 2019 1:05 PM
| We now live in a time where comedy is banned. |
Kamihimehunter said: WatchTillTandava said: There is something very wrong with that. It makes it harder for the country to grow and develop as a nation. The US had to come to terms with the fact that being an american was more than just being white and owning property. Its one of the main reasons why the US is among the most welcoming nations. Even I see people who immigrated from other parts of the world and settled in the US as Americans. That isn't surprising in the least. Japanese and Sub-Saharan African mixes are quite common, and further, Japan is still a nation-state which views a fundamental part of the nation as linked to its ethnicity. Japanese nationality has an ethnic basis - to be Japanese is to not just be born in or live in Japan, but to be ethnically Japanese or particularly a Yamato person, along with speaking the Japanese language and all the other religious and cultural trappings. Sometimes even ethnic Japanese who have lived abroad for too long and are perceived as culturally Westernized can face ostracization as gaijin. It's not a settler country like the New World states (U.S., Canada, Australia, and New Zealand) that have embraced a civic nationalist concept of nationhood. Neither as official state doctrine nor in the popular consciousness of the citizens. And there's nothing wrong with that either. What I really don't care for is all these forced apologies on every topic under the sun by everyone in the public limelight the moment they step one toe out of line and don't adhere to some script. It's such a farce and tiresome routine to see repeated day in and day out. Anyone who doesn't espouse ideological conformity must go before the masses and "repent" like in the days of theocracy for even being suspected of having a non-kosher point of view or making an unapproved comment. It's so dampening to the human spirit to see this same old show. Japan needs to come to terms with what being Japanese is really about. Please for the love of god tell me this is bait. 1. America is garbage and should not be emulated by any nation on earth. 2. Why do pro diversity liberals want to turn every country into the same grey culture-less piece of garbage that is the USA? Language (Linguistics proves this) and ethnicity is tied to the creation of unique cultures. Hence why America has none. |
| Social outrage over comedy. Comedy does not necessarily emulate reality or the comedian's views. If you don't find somebody's jokes funny then simply don't watch them? I find all the late night hosts running the same boring jokes/rants about Trump to be unfunny so I simply don't watch them and move on with my life, I don't call for them to get on their knees and apologize because their jokes didn't suit my tastes |
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| they said nothing wrong |
Kamihimehunter said: WatchTillTandava said: Japan has to come to terms with what it really means to be Japanese, by trying their cultural identity to an ethical characteristic it alienates other racial groups. They have to overcome the hurdles of diversifying and embrace change. Japan has already come to terms with that. Just because others don't like their position on it, it doesn't mean said position doesn't exist. No two countries are on identical paths of historical development. They all have different trajectories. And nor are they guaranteed to arrive at the same destination, whcih is also natural and in my view, perfectly acceptable. The historical conditions between Japan and the U.S. are not even remotely comparable. The latter is one of the settler countries like I mentioned in my above post. Its whole genesis came from genocide and sustained acts of ethnic cleansing of the Amerindian population already existing on the North American continent and then the need to repopulate an enormous landmass. It's true that Anglo-Saxon Protestants were the founding elite and governing caste, but from the beginning there was a huge racial underclass imported in as slave labor and the solution for dealing with them after slavery was abolished could only be either killing them all, expelling them all, or eventually integrating them. The last option was begrudgingly chosen and implemented piecemeal over an extended period of time (basically a whole century from the end of the American Civil War in 1865 until desegregation in the 1960s) and during this time, more and more waves of immigrants were brought in to assist in the country's development in every sector from agriculture to the railroad network, including Scotch-Irish, Germans, Russians, Poles, and other Eastern Europeans; Jews, Italians, Greeks, Chinese, etc. Japan had no such experience and no such need, because it's a different country with a different history. There is a problem which arises immediately when people start thinking there is a one-size-fits-all model of governance and existence applicable to all countries, because there isn't, and forcing the issue will only lead to endless wars and conflict and is a big contributory source of global strife. Every sovereign country can determine its own path. You believe that Japan doesn't have need of immigrates yet their population is in decline. You say it will cause endless war and conflict, when you and I both know that is absurd thinking. kingraptor724 said: If you think language is tied to ethnicity, I have to tell you that makes no sense. You don't have to be ethically Japanese to learn Japanese. A culture is already unique in itself. British and American culture are already vastly different. Same with any other culture. Please for the love of god tell me this is bait. 1. America is garbage and should not be emulated by any nation on earth. 2. Why do pro diversity liberals want to turn every country into the same grey culture-less piece of garbage that is the USA? Language (Linguistics proves this) and ethnicity is tied to the creation of unique cultures. Hence why America has none. America does have a culture if it didn't people wouldn't be able to make fun of it. >British and American culture are vastly different How? This is incredibly eurocentric. Compared to other countries like China or Egypt. UK and America are literally identical. You are misunderstanding linguistics. If you could instantly convert all Japanese speakers to English, you would literally see a massive change in their culture because people think through language. |
Kamihimehunter said: Japan has to come to terms with what it really means to be Japanese, by tying their cultural identity to an ethical characteristic it alienates other racial groups. So what? Let them feel alienated. Japan doesn't want them to move there anyway and it isn't suffering for tourism revenue lately. If anyone feels that strongly alienated and opposed to the Japanese' own collective cultural consciousness they can simply choose not to visit there. Kamihimehunter said: They have to overcome the hurdles of diversifying and embrace change. I completely disagree. Says who? Who will make them? What supranational body has the legal authority and the will to compel Japan to do anything in this matter? They have full sovereignty and jurisdiction over how they will live in their own homeland. It's their country, their territory, their land, and their policy prerogative. And many would argue the policies you would advocate for would not diversify anything, but homogenize more of the world by making Japan more like other developed (Western) countries moreso than it already is. Kamihimehunter said: You believe that Japan doesn't have need of immigrates yet their population is in decline. Japan has an approximate population of 126 million people. It is roughly the size of the American state of California and quite limited in natural resources. Russia, by contrast, has an approximate population of 144 million, only 18 million more, and it is the largest country by land area in the world. So I don't get nor agree with any of the arguments I've heard about Japan needing to increase its population. It's not an exceptionally large country in its territorial boundaries. Packing more people in and mindless breeding or importing of foreign laborers will produce no good result and is not a long-term solution for anything for, in my opinion any country, but certainly not for Japan. Overpopulation and depletion of resources is more of a legitimate a concern for the world as a whole than any nation going extinct by its youth not having enough sex or the census measuring a slightly higher per capita age for the populace. Those fears are just sensationalist and published by pro-open borders/free trade neoliberal op-ed columnists in papers like Vox and the Atlantic to try and bully or scare Japan into changing its work visa regime. Kamihimehunter said: You say it will cause endless war and conflict, when you and I both know that is absurd thinking. I know absolutely nothing of the kind. When I said it's a contributor to endless war and conflict, what I meant is that the false belief that there is one appropriate way for other nations to live and the forcible pushing of that on them is the cause for the popular support/legitimization behind the majority of global conflict (the reasons by the key stakeholders are always more materialist and resource-based, but converting other nations to think and live like you want by force is what secures them public acquiescence every time). Fortunately it isn't a concern because both you and I, as random posters on the internet, don't possess any official standing or authority, but I'm here to say and I will repeat that your way of thinking, that Japan has to be more like America or that Country A needs to be more like Country X, and that there is only one acceptable way for everyone in the world to live, is really detrimental to global stability and peaceful co-existence. The people of Japan don't need to be missionary-style converted to a certain way of thinking or living. Their culture can and Gods be good, will be allowed to develop and flourish organically in their own desired direction in accordance with their own needs and interests in their moral and material life. It's nothing a foreign government, organization, or individual can dictate. |
WatchTillTandavaSep 26, 2019 10:45 PM
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