Final reaction...what do you think about Part 5 overall?

Jul 28, 2019 2:27 PM

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Didn't like it in the manga and even if the adaptation was really good it wasn't enough to make it a game changer,i still didn't like the story,how the climax was delt,the antagonist and overall the ending (that final filler arc still felt out of place),

Openings were the weakest of all Jojo (even if Coda was great) and the fanservice was overall toned down except for some rare cool things.

6.5/10 far from a bad anime but far from what made me in love with what is Jojo.

Deep dark fantasies

Jul 28, 2019 4:24 PM

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Best part in the series so far, the adaptation did so, SO much to improve it in my eyes and to just generally make me enjoy the source material all the more. DP are THE studio for JoJo, and I'm loving the record of Araki's works just getting better each time while still all being so unique from eachother. Can't fucking wait for the eventual part 6 adaptation.

Jul 28, 2019 4:29 PM

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actually better than the manga to the point i'd actually advice people that aren't hardcore manga readers to skip reading it and go straight to the anime.
Pt. 5 isn't my favorite for multiple reasons and DP made a lot of improvements to it to make me enjoy more the aspects i already enjoyed and tolerate more the aspects i didn't.

Must watch.

Jul 28, 2019 4:37 PM

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By far my most favorite animated part. The ending was kinda strange, but overall enjoyed the story. Hitman team has some of the coolest antagonists ever.

Jul 28, 2019 5:02 PM

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hairygirls said:
Pure shit and overrated by jojofags, in my opinion. The plot is weak and repetitive, giorno sucks and the final fight was terrible. The whole anime boils down to the protagonists following an order from the boss and fighting a villain of the week until the boss appears.

i agree with Giorno being kinda boring and the final fight being underwhelming.

But if you don't like villain of the week stuff you should steer clear of Jojo, cuz for most of the parts it's usually structured that way. Just sayin.

Jul 28, 2019 5:15 PM

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Definitely the third best jojo part. Part 4 is the best with Part 2 close behind.

I loved almost everything about it but i wished we could've gotten more SOL moments with the gang. Also i felt trish was barely a character and she should've gotten more than one (i don't count the Diavalo fight as a 1v1) fight.

I can see where the dislike of the final battle comes from. However the true final fight was the gang vs diavolo, GER established their victory. Yeah you could call it "Deux Ex machina" but it was stated numerous times that the arrow will make the user night unbeatable. The gang won fair and square.

I prefer Dio vs Jotaro and Josuke vs Kira but this fight wasn't terrible or anything.

All i have to say about the OST is DI MOLTTTTTTOOOOOOOOOOOO

The animation/art was crappy at times but overall it was a pleasure to see.

Overall i give Part 5 a 9/10.

PART 6 PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Jul 28, 2019 5:24 PM

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What was this ending even, it felt like a joke...

Jul 28, 2019 5:25 PM

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I am almost caught up with part 8 and honestly part 5 is my favorite. From the stands, to the characters, to the fights. I had the most fun reading it. The anime does an even better job

Jul 28, 2019 5:30 PM

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Metallica vs KC is a peak fight for me on the series, that alone made me love part 5.

Jul 28, 2019 6:14 PM

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hairygirls said:

RabidFish said:

i agree with Giorno being kinda boring and the final fight being underwhelming.

But if you don't like villain of the week stuff you should steer clear of Jojo, cuz for most of the parts it's usually structured that way. Just sayin.

Well, I agree. That's one of the reasons I really don't like parts 3,4 and 5 overall

Huh... i do love villain-of-the-week anime and one of reasons why i love 90's anime a lot (Sailor Moon, Mashin Eiyuuden Wataru). It's the format i miss in modern anime.

Isn't it awesome, to wonder what kind of creative villain will appear at the next episode? It makes every episode unique and feel like it's own story, while also being tied to the plot. Unlike modern animes that are too much based around over-plot....

Not to mention, Villain-of-the-Week format allows for a lot of character progression, each character can have their own introduction fight (Where they show their awesome abilities) and desperate fight.

Jul 28, 2019 6:19 PM

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Keytee1 said:

hairygirls said:

Well, I agree. That's one of the reasons I really don't like parts 3,4 and 5 overall

Huh... i do love villain-of-the-week anime and one of reasons why i love 90's anime a lot (Sailor Moon, Mashin Eiyuuden Wataru). It's the format i miss in modern anime.

Isn't it awesome, to wonder what kind of creative villain will appear at the next episode? It makes every episode unique and feel like it's own story, while also being tied to the plot. Unlike modern animes that are too much based around over-plot....

Not to mention, Villain-of-the-Week format allows for a lot of character progression, each character can have their own introduction fight (Where they show their awesome abilities) and desperate fight.

yea, i agree with that... Also Jojo does VotW amazingly well, too.

Jul 28, 2019 7:55 PM

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hairygirls said:

RabidFish said:

i agree with Giorno being kinda boring and the final fight being underwhelming.

But if you don't like villain of the week stuff you should steer clear of Jojo, cuz for most of the parts it's usually structured that way. Just sayin.

Well, I agree. That's one of the reasons I really don't like parts 3,4 and 5 overall

Parts 1 and 2 were Villain of the Week as well, though.

There were just less villains overall, so it wasn't quite as noticeable.

Jul 28, 2019 8:05 PM

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Hobgoblin2099 said:
Parts 1 and 2 were Villain of the Week as well, though.

There were just less villains overall, so it wasn't quite as noticeable.

Part 1 wasn't villain of the week at all.
Dio is the villain in literally every chapter and every episode of that part.

Jul 28, 2019 8:13 PM

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The story itself? was kinda of poor, the main Villian wasn't as menacing as previous parts, the main cast except Buccariti were not on par with previous JoJo's squads.
Still, DP delievered and made it enjoyable to watch it.

How is Diavolo not menacing? if anything he is the most competent villain of all the parts animated yet, big lore, broken stand, he was almost invincible, and killed 3 main characters succesfully, something that none other antagonist ever did. And the squad in here is far more fleshed out than in past parts. Kakyoins, Avdols and Okuyasus and half of Morioh felt flat and short in comparison.

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Jul 28, 2019 8:25 PM

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RandomPerson4 said:

Hobgoblin2099 said:
Parts 1 and 2 were Villain of the Week as well, though.

There were just less villains overall, so it wasn't quite as noticeable.

Part 1 wasn't villain of the week at all.
Dio is the villain in literally every chapter and every episode of that part.

Eeeeeeh, these knights in the midle tho.....

Jul 28, 2019 8:32 PM

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The okay-est part. *shrugs* At least best boy Mista and best stand Sex Pistols survives.

Diamond is Unbreakable is still the best part followed by the second season of Stardust Crusaders.

"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD"

Jul 29, 2019 12:08 AM

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I honestly have no idea how to feel. I really enjoyed the majority of Part 5, from the new stands and antagonists, and I loved basically the whole core group of main characters. But the last few episodes were weird, and not in a good, fun way. I liked the final mini story at the end since it tied into everything that came before it, but it also felt like it came outta nowhere. I wish we could have seen Mista and Trish's reactions to Bruno being dead, or more of Diavolo's deaths driving him mad, or even what happened to Trish after the final battle. But other than that, I loved it for what it was.

Jul 29, 2019 12:18 AM

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I really loved it mostly of because how DP elevated every single part of the manga plus adding their own stuff in it which enhanced it even further which helped me ignore some of the issues I had with it. Part 2 and Part 4 are still my absolute favourite animated parts of the franchise though.

Jul 29, 2019 12:54 AM

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Probably the best Jojo final fight yet. Way better than pt.3 Dio fight deus ex machina spam, and no Hayato.

Jul 29, 2019 1:34 AM

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Part 5 is a flawed masterpiece imo. I don’t like the ending (but still prefer it over the endings of part 1 and 3) but this part gave me what I want from JoJo: cool characters, cool setting, cool and whacky fights and some good laughs. In other words, it was entertaining.

I think part 5 has BY FAR the best squad. Bruno is my favorite character in the jojo franchise, Mista is in my top 3 JoBros, Narancia provided good backup by being an improved Okuyasu, Abbacchio was different from the any other JoBros with entertaining interactions with Giorno and Bruno, Trish was ok but could’ve had more fights, Giorno was much better than I remembered in the manga (still mid tier JoJo imo) and Fugo... well, Fugo had the potential. He had a cool stand, very interesting backstory and things going on with his genius IQ but short temperament. But then Araki just threw him out.

Jul 29, 2019 2:14 AM

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It was the best animated part, it had everything: +
- Best fights
- good stands
- brilliant main characters (my favorite)
- the second best jobro
- had many religious references and much symbolism
- the assassins team played a very important role in the golden wind, each of them being different and with special personalities (Risotto, Prosciutto, Pesci, Melone, Ghiaccio are my favorites) ... I still have something to say about Pesci, it was quite annoying, during two episodes had development and this is a big plus even if it was supported by Prosciutto
-Another positive thing to say would be the brilliant and best golden winds arcs(Same level as Dio's world and bites the dust) and these are The Grateful Death, the appearance of Doppio and Green day and oasis.
- The disadvantages would be that Giorno as a protagonist was quite boring and uninteresting.
- Although Diavolo was good for the golden wind, it was quite weak as an antagonist (like Dio) but I appreciated it because it's brutal, it has an interesting stand, broken ability and it had some phrases the mature feast with a temptation of philosophy ex: ("Fate gave me the ability to erase time ... and precognize ...
There is no mistaking that ... That's an obvious truth ...
The fate that governs this world selected by my King Crimson to stand on the invincible apex ... ").
- The end was quite disappointing, it could be much better, but that's it.
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Now I would like to talk about the final fight, well it was a brilliant fight because it was a race between Bruno gang and Diavolo where those who get that arrow win ... Giorno took the arrow and received Gold Experience Requiem and the fight between Giorno and Diavolo was not a fight was more a execution for the antagonist's sins ... but yes many did not understand that the final fight was gang vs Diavolo that's sad ....

9/10 DP even did a very good job, he managed to fix the holes in the story

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Jul 29, 2019 8:15 AM

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-Best main crew
-Best mini bosses
-bEST BOI

Only complaint I have is GER being a bit too asspull-y even for JoJo standards imo. It's still kinda hype tho so I'll forgive. Overall 10/10 perfect adaption and still my favorite part

Jul 29, 2019 8:41 AM

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Best adaptation of the worst story, part 5 is not that great but DP managed to make something good out of it

Jul 29, 2019 8:51 AM

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Well, I hated the manga. I thought the pacing was awful, the characters had gimmicky personalities, and the ending was disappointing. Thankfully the anime adaptation completely knocked it out of the park. They fixed all of my issues with it aside from the ending (which is a good thing - I wouldn't want them to change the overall story)

Jul 29, 2019 12:43 PM

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People just forget Dio vs Jotaro is the biggest deus ex machina in the series.
The arrow is way better.
And pt.4 Kira fucks up like a retard by saying his name aloud.
Diavolo gets out done properly.
Also the whole Colosseum part is already the start of the final fight.
Best final fight yet tbh.

Jul 29, 2019 3:37 PM

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hairygirls said:
Well, I agree. That's one of the reasons I really don't like parts 3,4 and 5 overall

Part 6, 7 and 8 are like that too so you might as well just drop the series entirely.

The thing with Jojo doing VoTW is that they always have a different thematic and reason to come at the main cast:

first half of part 3: Mercenaries and criminals turned into stand users and paid by Dio
second half: Same thing, but his elite ones

first half of part 4: bunch of teenagers and troublemakers abusing their stand abilities for their own gain
second half of part 4: people tricked by Kira's dad to protect him

first half of part 5: the execution squad members trying to use Trish as a way to get to the boss (probably using Melone's stand ability to track DNA)
second half: Diavolo's elite guards coming after the new traitors

Jul 29, 2019 3:56 PM

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HigashikataJojo said:

hairygirls said:
Well, I agree. That's one of the reasons I really don't like parts 3,4 and 5 overall

Part 6, 7 and 8 are like that too so you might as well just drop the series entirely.

The thing with Jojo doing VoTW is that they always have a different thematic and reason to come at the main cast:

first half of part 3: Mercenaries and criminals turned into stand users and paid by Dio
second half: Same thing, but his elite ones

first half of part 4: bunch of teenagers and troublemakers abusing their stand abilities for their own gain
second half of part 4: people tricked by Kira's dad to protect him

first half of part 5: the execution squad members trying to use Trish as a way to get to the boss (probably using Melone's stand ability to track DNA)
second half: Diavolo's elite guards coming after the new traitors

pt. 7 and 8 (specially 8) continue with the format but make it so that every new villain has their motivations and these are more fleshed out than "big bad told me to fuck you guys up". I think Jojolion is the best part in this regard.

Jul 29, 2019 5:36 PM

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-bEST BOI

You mean Doppio, of course? ;pp

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Jul 29, 2019 9:13 PM

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This is the second 10/10 anime of the year for me, along with AoT s3 part 2.

Jul 30, 2019 3:32 AM

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The adaptation was good but the plot was weak. Also diavolo is a dumb villain compared to the likes of anyone else like Dio, Kira. Also giorno is is my least favorite jojo. Part 4 and 7 still remains the best jojo part.

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Jul 30, 2019 4:23 AM

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2nd best jojo part, and it gets the best adaptation by a mile. very pleased overall

Jul 30, 2019 3:26 PM

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Ak18reh-man said:
The adaptation was good but the plot was weak. Also diavolo is a dumb villain compared to the likes of anyone else like Dio, Kira. Also giorno is is my least favorite jojo. Part 4 and 7 still remains the best jojo part.

Explain to me how the guy who controled Italys underworld from years, killed succesfuly 3 main characters (whereas Kira didnt killed anyone and Dio just one), and was almost invencible is a dumb villain?

Jul 30, 2019 3:46 PM

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DeepRiver said:

Ak18reh-man said:
The adaptation was good but the plot was weak. Also diavolo is a dumb villain compared to the likes of anyone else like Dio, Kira. Also giorno is is my least favorite jojo. Part 4 and 7 still remains the best jojo part.

Explain to me how the guy who controled Italys underworld from years, killed succesfuly 3 main characters (whereas Kira didnt killed anyone and Dio just one), and was almost invencible is a dumb villain?

that's all fair, but here's a couple of personal issues i have with diavolo:
1) he is not an empathetic villain. Don't get me wrong, i don't expect to feel bad or anything for him, but it would've gone a long way to make him a more compelling villain. Maybe expand on his backstory, or show more of how he got from regular man to crazy megalomaniac drug overlord. A split personality isn't something you just "get". It's a seriously fucked up condition brought up by years of trauma and psycological damage. Is Doppio himself when he was younger? or is he just a construction, a fiction made up by diavolo, like an extra layer of protection for his identity? Doppio feels wasted.
2) the split personality thingy feels contrived. (see above).
3) don't like his design. KC is cool af, wish Diavolo was cooler. A shirtless dude with shitty tatoos isn't intimidating at all.

Jul 30, 2019 3:49 PM

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DeepRiver said:

Ak18reh-man said:
The adaptation was good but the plot was weak. Also diavolo is a dumb villain compared to the likes of anyone else like Dio, Kira. Also giorno is is my least favorite jojo. Part 4 and 7 still remains the best jojo part.

Explain to me how the guy who controled Italys underworld from years, killed succesfuly 3 main characters (whereas Kira didnt killed anyone and Dio just one), and was almost invencible is a dumb villain?

He was bland and underdeveloped antagonist. His split personality was interesting but it wasn't gone into depth.
And yeah that guy controled the underworld of Italy. What else do we know? Other than that or Killing his daughter which later on became his goal? And by dumb I didn't mean he was stupid or anything, I mean he was. He should've checked if polneref was really dead or not. Well that aside I meant he was bland compared to the other antagonists of the other parts.

Jul 30, 2019 3:49 PM

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For me this was the best animated part(for now)

Jul 30, 2019 3:59 PM

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Ak18reh-man said:

DeepRiver said:

Explain to me how the guy who controled Italys underworld from years, killed succesfuly 3 main characters (whereas Kira didnt killed anyone and Dio just one), and was almost invencible is a dumb villain?

He was bland and underdeveloped antagonist. His split personality was interesting but it wasn't gone into depth.
And yeah that guy controled the underworld of Italy. What else do we now? Other than that or Killing his daughter which later on became his goal? And by dumb I didn't mean he was stupid or anything, I mean he was. He should've checked if polneref was really dead or not. Well that aside I meant he was bland compared to the other antagonists of the other parts.

you mean like Kars i want to destroy all humans because im evil or Dio im gonna rule the world because im evil Diavolo is far better then those 2 and while kira is amazing i still prefer diavolo over kira because
he has a cool backstory that is designed to be a complete mystery and there are a tone of theories for diavolos birth
we dont know who was the original personality
he was responsible for parts 3 and onward for selling the arrows to enyaba
acctualy kill main characters unlike dio and kars
his personality is amazing what i love about him is that he is a fucking coward he was gonna run when giorno got the arrow but trish insulted him and he was like bitch you gonna learn some manners

Jul 30, 2019 4:16 PM

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Ak18reh-man said:

He was bland and underdeveloped antagonist. His split personality was interesting but it wasn't gone into depth.
And yeah that guy controled the underworld of Italy. What else do we now? Other than that or Killing his daughter which later on became his goal? And by dumb I didn't mean he was stupid or anything, I mean he was. He should've checked if polneref was really dead or not. Well that aside I meant he was bland compared to the other antagonists of the other parts.

you mean like Kars i want to destroy all humans because im evil or Dio im gonna rule the world because im evil Diavolo is far better then those 2 and while kira is amazing i still prefer diavolo over kira because
he has a cool backstory that is designed to be a complete mystery and there are a tone of theories for diavolos birth
we dont know who was the original personality
he was responsible for parts 3 and onward for selling the arrows to enyaba
acctualy kill main characters unlike dio and kars
his personality is amazing what i love about him is that he is a fucking coward he was gonna run when giorno got the arrow but trish insulted him and he was like bitch you gonna learn some manners

The things you mentioned are the reasons why he is such a bland antagonist. And that's the reason why I could care less about him. And we know what dio had been through. And I never mentioned kars here.

Jul 30, 2019 4:16 PM

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RabidFish said:

DeepRiver said:

Explain to me how the guy who controled Italys underworld from years, killed succesfuly 3 main characters (whereas Kira didnt killed anyone and Dio just one), and was almost invencible is a dumb villain?

that's all fair, but here's a couple of personal issues i have with diavolo:
1) he is not an empathetic villain. Don't get me wrong, i don't expect to feel bad or anything for him, but it would've gone a long way to make him a more compelling villain. Maybe expand on his backstory, or show more of how he got from regular man to crazy megalomaniac drug overlord. A split personality isn't something you just "get". It's a seriously fucked up condition brought up by years of trauma and psycological damage. Is Doppio himself when he was younger? or is he just a construction, a fiction made up by diavolo, like an extra layer of protection for his identity? Doppio feels wasted.
2) the split personality thingy feels contrived. (see above).
3) don't like his design. KC is cool af, wish Diavolo was cooler. A shirtless dude with shitty tatoos isn't intimidating at all.

1) The empathetic side of Diavolo is basically Doppio who we just can assume was him when he was younger, but we also know that he always had the split personality since he was a baby, Diavolo by himself is more of a mystery. I can understand where you are coming from and i feel Diavolo himself is more a concept than a character, but i dont mind that personaly.

2) Well is Jojo after all

3) This is clearly subjetive, i personaly love it, it has a lot of style and subverts the archetipe of elegant Mob boss.

Jul 30, 2019 4:21 PM

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Compared to Kars or Dio, Diavolo lacks nuance and most of all... Class.

He's a fucking ITALIAN MOB BOSS. He should be ALL class. He's 100% brute force and that's completely fine, he's is meant to be this brutal, disgusting piece of trash, but i can't help but feel he's kinda 1-note and boring.

Jul 30, 2019 4:33 PM

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RabidFish said:
Compared to Kars or Dio, Diavolo lacks nuance and most of all... Class.

He's a fucking ITALIAN MOB BOSS. He should be ALL class. He's 100% brute force and that's completely fine, he's is meant to be this brutal, disgusting piece of trash, but i can't help but feel he's kinda 1-note and boring.

For me i find him to be this paranoic and coward guy that has an obsession with his identity being hiden ( like a mob boss), who will kill you with tricks and like a snake. If anything he has more class than Dio and Kars, who were really brute force.

Jul 30, 2019 4:39 PM

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DeepRiver said:

RabidFish said:
Compared to Kars or Dio, Diavolo lacks nuance and most of all... Class.

He's a fucking ITALIAN MOB BOSS. He should be ALL class. He's 100% brute force and that's completely fine, he's is meant to be this brutal, disgusting piece of trash, but i can't help but feel he's kinda 1-note and boring.

For me i find him to be this paranoic and coward guy that has an obsession with his identity being hiden ( like a mob boss), who will kill you with tricks and like a snake. If anything he has more class than Dio and Kars, who were really brute force.

yea no. If there where any misinterpretations, i meant class as an aesthetic quality, meaning: Someone who looks and presents themselves with an air of dignity, nobility, beauty, etc.

Jul 30, 2019 4:51 PM

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MehmetY said:
First 18 episode and Notorious BIG ARC: 10/10
Episode 19 and Green Day Oasis ARC: 5/10
Other episodes: 9/10

Out of all episodes you didn't seem to like the fight against Ghiaccio (Episode 19)? Why is that?

Jul 30, 2019 4:57 PM

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RabidFish said:

DeepRiver said:

For me i find him to be this paranoic and coward guy that has an obsession with his identity being hiden ( like a mob boss), who will kill you with tricks and like a snake. If anything he has more class than Dio and Kars, who were really brute force.

yea no. If there where any misinterpretations, i meant class as an aesthetic quality, meaning: Someone who looks and presents themselves with an air of dignity, nobility, beauty, etc.

Well if its because Diavolo looks more like an striper rather than a mob boss it cant be helped, but i personaly like it, this is Jojo after all and weird designs are all over the place, specialy in this part. King Crimson had that "class" tho.

Jul 30, 2019 5:14 PM

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MehmetY said:

Nycro said:

Out of all episodes you didn't seem to like the fight against Ghiaccio (Episode 19)? Why is that?

Technical quality was so bad.

And what about the Green Day/Oasis episodes? that arc is a fan favorite and didnt had badly animated moments if i recall correctly

Jul 30, 2019 6:20 PM

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For me this part had the worst story and character development of any of the 5 parts that have been animated up to this point. Sure i won't deny it looked great and everything but that can only get you so far. The story was weak at best with some of the fights being too convoluted and uninteresting (Mirror dude being one of them). Also the characters don't even compare to the previous four parts, we simply didn't have enough time to see them develop as characters. They all were kinda just there to look cool, have stand fights, and blindly follow Giorno and Bucciarati around. Speaking of Giorno he's by far the worst JoJo yet! Bland and stoic, he's just a dollar store version of Jotaro.

Trish was one of my bigger issues with the part, I mean was she even a character? Joined the crew, had a fight and a few lines of dialogue, and then was practically absent from the show! There was so much potential with Trish but it all seemed to be wasted. The whole crew seemed to have been wasted potential, all their backstories were practically the same: Tragic thing happens, Bucciarati saves them in the end. I'm surprised that in Bucciarati's backstory he didn't end up being saved by his future self! None of the characters seemed to go through any huge change or development, at least none that were significant enough for it to be good. Don't even get me started on Fugo, dude had like 5 lines and dipped...

Another thing that disappoints me is there was no emotionally impactful moment like the previous parts. For example in part 3 there was the whole Vanilla Ice fight, Part 2 Caesar, but part 5 when certain characters bit the bullet... I felt nothing! Part 5 didn't make me wanna care about any of these people, cuz I hardly knew em! What the previous parts did so well in with creating likable characters, part 5 drops the ball hard. I guess you could say that's why I dislike part 5 so much, the bland, uninteresting, overhyped characters of this part.

Lastly I'll touch on Diavolo, he was underwhelming for me. Compared to the previous "Big Bads" of the previous parts he doesn't present the same gravitas and looming bad guy nature. Sure he ends up killing important members of the crew, but so what if it doesn't make you feel anything. Those deaths were sudden and it felt like Araki only had them die cuz "big bad needs to look really strong". He also had the same character issues that I mentioned earlier, and his whole split personality thing was wasted potential. Split personality isn't something you just have, I wanna know more about this character. Get me to care about this character! Sure mystery is great and all but you have to execute it properly, and here I don't think it was executed well. As for the final fight with Diavolo, it was underwhelming just like his character. Doesn't have the same epic finale feeling of the previous parts. And he honestly just gets absolutely friggin destroyed by Girorno, it wasn't even a fair fight just ass pulled the arrow power. And this is coming from me who tolerates JoJo levels of ass pullery, however even for JoJo's this felt badly executed.

The aesthetic of the show and animation were all great, but the story and mainly the characters are what put this part as my least favorite so far. Don't get me wrong it could've definitely been worse but Part 5 ain't the greatest imo.

Overall I give it a 6/10 still enjoyable at times but overall it was disappointing...

xWhitasticJul 30, 2019 6:32 PM

Jul 30, 2019 9:21 PM

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It was good, everything was great except the final fight

Jul 30, 2019 10:05 PM

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Best visuals of any part so far.
Worst story of any part so far.

Jul 31, 2019 6:17 AM

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xWhitastic said:
For me this part had the worst story and character development of any of the 5 parts that have been animated up to this point. Sure i won't deny it looked great and everything but that can only get you so far. The story was weak at best with some of the fights being too convoluted and uninteresting (Mirror dude being one of them). Also the characters don't even compare to the previous four parts, we simply didn't have enough time to see them develop as characters. They all were kinda just there to look cool, have stand fights, and blindly follow Giorno and Bucciarati around. Speaking of Giorno he's by far the worst JoJo yet! Bland and stoic, he's just a dollar store version of Jotaro.

Trish was one of my bigger issues with the part, I mean was she even a character? Joined the crew, had a fight and a few lines of dialogue, and then was practically absent from the show! There was so much potential with Trish but it all seemed to be wasted. The whole crew seemed to have been wasted potential, all their backstories were practically the same: Tragic thing happens, Bucciarati saves them in the end. I'm surprised that in Bucciarati's backstory he didn't end up being saved by his future self! None of the characters seemed to go through any huge change or development, at least none that were significant enough for it to be good. Don't even get me started on Fugo, dude had like 5 lines and dipped...

Another thing that disappoints me is there was no emotionally impactful moment like the previous parts. For example in part 3 there was the whole Vanilla Ice fight, Part 2 Caesar, but part 5 when certain characters bit the bullet... I felt nothing! Part 5 didn't make me wanna care about any of these people, cuz I hardly knew em! What the previous parts did so well in with creating likable characters, part 5 drops the ball hard. I guess you could say that's why I dislike part 5 so much, the bland, uninteresting, overhyped characters of this part.

Lastly I'll touch on Diavolo, he was underwhelming for me. Compared to the previous "Big Bads" of the previous parts he doesn't present the same gravitas and looming bad guy nature. Sure he ends up killing important members of the crew, but so what if it doesn't make you feel anything. Those deaths were sudden and it felt like Araki only had them die cuz "big bad needs to look really strong". He also had the same character issues that I mentioned earlier, and his whole split personality thing was wasted potential. Split personality isn't something you just have, I wanna know more about this character. Get me to care about this character! Sure mystery is great and all but you have to execute it properly, and here I don't think it was executed well. As for the final fight with Diavolo, it was underwhelming just like his character. Doesn't have the same epic finale feeling of the previous parts. And he honestly just gets absolutely friggin destroyed by Girorno, it wasn't even a fair fight just ass pulled the arrow power. And this is coming from me who tolerates JoJo levels of ass pullery, however even for JoJo's this felt badly executed.

The aesthetic of the show and animation were all great, but the story and mainly the characters are what put this part as my least favorite so far. Don't get me wrong it could've definitely been worse but Part 5 ain't the greatest imo.

Overall I give it a 6/10 still enjoyable at times but overall it was disappointing...

This right here JoJo part 5 is the worst part because of these reasons

Jul 31, 2019 6:21 AM

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xWhitastic said:
For me this part had the worst story and character development of any of the 5 parts that have been animated up to this point. Sure i won't deny it looked great and everything but that can only get you so far. The story was weak at best with some of the fights being too convoluted and uninteresting (Mirror dude being one of them). Also the characters don't even compare to the previous four parts, we simply didn't have enough time to see them develop as characters. They all were kinda just there to look cool, have stand fights, and blindly follow Giorno and Bucciarati around. Speaking of Giorno he's by far the worst JoJo yet! Bland and stoic, he's just a dollar store version of Jotaro.

Trish was one of my bigger issues with the part, I mean was she even a character? Joined the crew, had a fight and a few lines of dialogue, and then was practically absent from the show! There was so much potential with Trish but it all seemed to be wasted. The whole crew seemed to have been wasted potential, all their backstories were practically the same: Tragic thing happens, Bucciarati saves them in the end. I'm surprised that in Bucciarati's backstory he didn't end up being saved by his future self! None of the characters seemed to go through any huge change or development, at least none that were significant enough for it to be good. Don't even get me started on Fugo, dude had like 5 lines and dipped...

Another thing that disappoints me is there was no emotionally impactful moment like the previous parts. For example in part 3 there was the whole Vanilla Ice fight, Part 2 Caesar, but part 5 when certain characters bit the bullet... I felt nothing! Part 5 didn't make me wanna care about any of these people, cuz I hardly knew em! What the previous parts did so well in with creating likable characters, part 5 drops the ball hard. I guess you could say that's why I dislike part 5 so much, the bland, uninteresting, overhyped characters of this part.

Lastly I'll touch on Diavolo, he was underwhelming for me. Compared to the previous "Big Bads" of the previous parts he doesn't present the same gravitas and looming bad guy nature. Sure he ends up killing important members of the crew, but so what if it doesn't make you feel anything. Those deaths were sudden and it felt like Araki only had them die cuz "big bad needs to look really strong". He also had the same character issues that I mentioned earlier, and his whole split personality thing was wasted potential. Split personality isn't something you just have, I wanna know more about this character. Get me to care about this character! Sure mystery is great and all but you have to execute it properly, and here I don't think it was executed well. As for the final fight with Diavolo, it was underwhelming just like his character. Doesn't have the same epic finale feeling of the previous parts. And he honestly just gets absolutely friggin destroyed by Girorno, it wasn't even a fair fight just ass pulled the arrow power. And this is coming from me who tolerates JoJo levels of ass pullery, however even for JoJo's this felt badly executed.

The aesthetic of the show and animation were all great, but the story and mainly the characters are what put this part as my least favorite so far. Don't get me wrong it could've definitely been worse but Part 5 ain't the greatest imo.

Overall I give it a 6/10 still enjoyable at times but overall it was disappointing...

I seriously never understood this, why is the cast that way for you? if i remember correctly this is the only squad where every member gets his backstory and own fights through the series, if anything they feel much more fleshed out than previous parts, hell Narancia is an improved Okuyasu. I just cant believe how you can say that about the characters when in previous parts there were already characters like Stroheim, Kakyoin, Avdol, Iggy and half of Morioh who were the very definition of one note.

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