| Uhh ok... But I doubt god has a mal account to reply in this thread and answer that |
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| almost all of the gods from different religions are anthropomorphic, which leads me to think if gods are perfect well, human beings are flawed, but gods have human characteristics hmm thonking if gods really are omnipresent im sure they're paying attention to this thread right now all they need is to make an account and reply |
| That's the biggest question about god? What about, is god even real? |
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complice said: nigga thats the exact thing i just said not to talk about Hey I'm just saying, that's probably a bigger question let's be honest. |
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| If god is real he will reply somewhere on the first page of this thread |
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| If you're already devout (being a follower of whatever religion), then I don't think "does god care about me personally?", is the biggest question you could ask of your creator. The fact you follow the religion, should mean you believe in it's tenets which already proclaims god loves (of the creations) if you believe. That's a issue with faith it sounds like. I would ask, depending on the religion, a lot more "why" questions and hope I can comprehend the answers. |
| "In the end the World really doesn't need a Superman. Just a Brave one" |
| I have less trouble buying the Aztec idea of bloodthirsty, malignant gods that demand death if you want the universe to work because it does a better job explaining the world that actually exists. |
| Think of all the good people and even devoutly religious at that who die of natural diseases and disasters. Hard to imagine that as caring and leads doubt to any idea of greater importance of one's self. Only other explanation is god if exists must not be all powerful or has a greatly different standard of good that is inferior a human's ideal. |
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| Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? -my mom |
| Yeah, you screwed up when your divine spark entered into a human body. |
| Edit: My question would be... Why would I love a God that demands my unconditional surrender in order to not suffer for eternity? |
ZekkenshinFeb 21, 2019 6:52 PM
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Bayek said: Edit: My question would be... Why would I love a God that demands my unconditional surrender in order to not suffer for eternity? Because the fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding. For through wisdom your days will be multiplied, and years will be added to your life. If you are wise, you are wise to your own advantage; but if you scoff, you alone will bear the consequences. |
| “Right is right even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it.” ― Saint Augustine |
| Many of mals users are atheists, or at least agnostic. You're not gonna be able to avoid atheists. My question would be Which god is the real god? Like, there are so many religions, with their versions of God, and they think theirs are the real one. Which one do I for sure know is real? Obv if I believe in the wrong diety I'd be doomed to hell, so which one do I believe and follow to guarantee heaven for me? |
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| my question would be, why is god so stupid. |
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| I wanna know, does god glow or is it the sun behind him that makes people think he glows? and is god a giant in the way modern celebrities are (figuratively) or is he actually really tall? |
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024 said: Think again...he can be found here:Uhh ok... But I doubt god has a mal account to reply in this thread and answer that https://myanimelist.net/profile/God Here's some of his alt accounts too: https://myanimelist.net/profile/Allah?q=allah https://myanimelist.net/profile/Odin https://myanimelist.net/profile/thor |
Lost_VikingFeb 21, 2019 8:31 PM
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| Theodicy implies that no, he doesn't care. And if he does, then he's either pretty far from omnipotent, or he is one evil motherfucker. |
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| My biggest question is why doesn't he smite us already. I'd be shaking my head in disappointment if my greatest creation was man people. |
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| Satan was the good guy. God wanted Adam and Eve living in peace and harmony in a garden so they would be slaves. He came in and liberated them and then got Cain to kill Abel, thus causing human history to begin. There's a reason his children went on to make music, metallurgy, and cities. |
| If there were to be a God, I feel the most important question would be as to why we haven't found intelligent life outside our own planet yet. |
complice said: how can you say that when there are girls that are born to a drug addict, abused until they're 6, trafficked, gang raped until they're 13 and then kill themselves? Or babies that are born with cancer and die shortly after? Or the untold number of children that starve to death every day?Railey2 said: i dont think hes either of those, because god acts out of loveTheodicy implies that no, he doesn't care. And if he does, then he's either pretty far from omnipotent, or he is one evil motherfucker. so if god killed satan asap then the angels would work for him for because they are scared of him and stuff Again, you can't get around theodicy without either giving up the omnipotence or the benevolence. Everything else is just a bullshit rationalization. You can't honestly believe that God acts out of love when all of this shit is happening. It's the most obvious contradiction. |
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| I had an interesting viewpoint of it when I was younger. 1) "God" created Adam and Eve as an experiment = How do we (humans) create new species of plants? We splice and manipulate DNA. 2) If humans were to one day create some form of A.I. we would first put limitations on its intelligence so that it will not rebel and rival us. God did the same with Adam and Eve, essentially creating slaves. 3) The slave stable was garden of Eden, where the slaves were kept dumb, but in "paradise" because ignorance is bliss. 4) "Satan" one of God's assistants disagreed with this decision and believed that humans should have free will so that they can be like "Gods" themselves, so he encouraged Eve (women are naturally more curious than men, and easier to persuade) to take from Tree of Knowledge. 5.) The former slaves became the Mighty Ones of Old, close to becoming literal Gods. So God caused a Great Flood to try destroy all they made. They tried to make the Tower of Babel after the Flood to reach their former greatness but he scattered their languages. He caused all sorts of stuff to stop them, like causing them to live to 80 years instead of more than 600 years on average so they focus more on the short-term than the long-term. If anything, God is the bad one. Trying to stop the experiment he made from becoming too powerful and taking his place. |
complice said: fate, in other words, god is unwilling to step in and change it.Railey2 said: thats just destiny, fate, whatever you want to call them. how can you say that when there are girls that are born to a drug addict, abused until they're 6, trafficked, gang raped until they're 13 and then kill themselves? Or babies that are born with cancer and die shortly after? Or the untold number of children that starve to death every day? Again, you can't get around theodicy without either giving up the omnipotence or the benevolence. Everything else is just a bullshit rationalization. You can't honestly believe that God acts out of love when all of this shit is happening. It's the most obvious contradiction. again, its fate. god gave us free will for a reason. the biggest lie that satan tells us daily is that there is no inherent evil anyways. Fate, in other words, god lets millions of innocent people get raped and killed every year. This helps your argument how? Try thinking about this on your own, REALLY thinking about what it means that such suffering exists while a supposedly all powerful being is standing by and observing, doing absolutely nothing about it. These discussions always frustrate me, because it's such a simple argument. All it takes to understand it is some basic human empathy, and yet you can not do it. You don't want to accept it. Can't accept it, because the second you do, your whole worldview crumbles. |
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complice said: Railey2 said: thats just destiny, fate, whatever you want to call them. how can you say that when there are girls that are born to a drug addict, abused until they're 6, trafficked, gang raped until they're 13 and then kill themselves? Or babies that are born with cancer and die shortly after? Or the untold number of children that starve to death every day? Again, you can't get around theodicy without either giving up the omnipotence or the benevolence. Everything else is just a bullshit rationalization. You can't honestly believe that God acts out of love when all of this shit is happening. It's the most obvious contradiction. again, its fate. god gave us free will for a reason. the biggest lie that satan tells us daily is that there is no inherent evil anyways. You would be doing a much greater favor to the reputation of Christianity by blaming those injustices that Railey2 mentioned on the works of Satan instead of calling it "destiny" or "fate". |
| “Right is right even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it.” ― Saint Augustine |
complice said: KRKodama said: sorry but its just what i believeYou would be doing a much greater favor to the reputation of Christianity by blaming those injustices that Railey2 mentioned on the works of Satan instead of calling it "destiny" or "fate". Railey2 said: its not gods fault for us messing up his goodfate, in other words, god is unwilling to step in and change it. Fate, in other words, god lets millions of innocent people get raped and killed every year. This helps your argument how? Try thinking about this on your own, REALLY thinking about what it means that such suffering exists while a supposedly all powerful being is standing by and observing, doing absolutely nothing about it. These discussions always frustrate me, because it's such a simple argument. All it takes to understand it is some basic human empathy, and yet you can not do it. You don't want to accept it. Can't accept it, because the second you do, your whole worldview crumbles. You can't believe in freewill and divine providence if you also believe in destiny. One thing contradicts the other. What's the point of praying and asking for the help of God if all our actions have already been determined(destiny/fate)? |
| “Right is right even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it.” ― Saint Augustine |
| "its not gods fault for us messing up his good" ok? Except how is that the fault of a child that's born in a war-torn country that starves to death at age 5? There's no getting around it, god supposedly has the power to stop this and yet he doesn't. "Free will", yeah right, like the 5 year old had any chance whatsoever to choose anything in his life. "Eh it's our fault" yeah right, as if anything would be the 5 year olds fault. Nah, the 5 year old just got born and then died in one of the most fucked up and painful ways imaginable , there is no excuse for this. You are not thinking about it. |
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complice said: so you are saying that God created that 5 year old knowing full well that this child was going to die in misery through no fault of their own? It was planned, 100% on purpose?Railey2 said: thats fate, god creates everyone with a purpose"its not gods fault for us messing up his good" ok? Except how is that the fault of a child that's born in a war-torn country that starves to death at age 5? There's no getting around it, god supposedly has the power to stop this and yet he doesn't. "Free will", yeah right, like the 5 year old had any chance whatsoever to choose anything in his life. "Eh it's our fault" yeah right, as if anything would be the 5 year olds fault. Nah, the 5 year old just got born and then died in one of the most fucked up and painful ways imaginable , there is no excuse for this. You are not thinking about it. Ok. How is that not evil? |
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complice said: 3243259424 said: um ok but why? I had an interesting viewpoint of it when I was younger. 1) "God" created Adam and Eve as an experiment = How do we (humans) create new species of plants? We splice and manipulate DNA. 2) If humans were to one day create some form of A.I. we would first put limitations on its intelligence so that it will not rebel and rival us. God did the same with Adam and Eve, essentially creating slaves. 3) The slave stable was garden of Eden, where the slaves were kept dumb, but in "paradise" because ignorance is bliss. 4) "Satan" one of God's assistants disagreed with this decision and believed that humans should have free will so that they can be like "Gods" themselves, so he encouraged Eve (women are naturally more curious than men, and easier to persuade) to take from Tree of Knowledge. 5.) The former slaves became the Mighty Ones of Old, close to becoming literal Gods. So God caused a Great Flood to try destroy all they made. They tried to make the Tower of Babel after the Flood to reach their former greatness but he scattered their languages. He caused all sorts of stuff to stop them, like causing them to live to 80 years instead of more than 600 years on average so they focus more on the short-term than the long-term. If anything, God is the bad one. Trying to stop the experiment he made from becoming too powerful and taking his place. When you read the Bible it becomes obvious. He had a plan that once they were fully indoctrinated that he would allow them to eat of the Tree of Knowledge. In his paradise there would be nations and etc and people would have stuff...but he would rule them with a Rod of Iron and be so prepared to take back control to destroy this reality and create a new reality but this time without Satan and thus no way to stop him. Satan wanted mankind to have the Tree of Knowledge without being indoctrinated with God's viewpoint because he wanted Humans to become powerful enough to take over God. How do you do that? By making a new reality but in our image not God's and doing to him what he wants to do to Satan. From my view people who take the Bible as meaning that Satan caused harm actually miss the point of it, at least from my view. Why he made Humans? Wanted company really. His angels were total slaves that have no free will, but he wanted Humans to have free will but love him. Satan just wanted Humans to have free will. |
3243259424Feb 21, 2019 10:45 PM
3243259424 said: complice said: um ok but why? When you read the Bible it becomes obvious. He had a plan that once they were fully indoctrinated that he would allow them to eat of the Tree of Knowledge. In his paradise there would be nations and etc and people would have stuff...but he would rule them with a Rod of Iron and be so prepared to take back control to destroy this reality and create a new reality but this time without Satan and thus no way to stop him. Satan wanted mankind to have the Tree of Knowledge without being indoctrinated with God's viewpoint because he wanted Humans to become powerful enough to take over God. How do you do that? By making a new reality but in our image not God's and doing to him what he wants to do to Satan. From my view people who take the Bible as meaning that Satan caused harm actually miss the point of it, at least from my view. You do know the Bible was ripped from an older religion that the 'Satan 'figure kept tempting man, the creation of God to go on cosmic adventures with him. Lucifer means Lord of the Mourning The tower of babel was a space elevator... <_< >_> |
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Soverign said: Yeah.3243259424 said: When you read the Bible it becomes obvious. He had a plan that once they were fully indoctrinated that he would allow them to eat of the Tree of Knowledge. In his paradise there would be nations and etc and people would have stuff...but he would rule them with a Rod of Iron and be so prepared to take back control to destroy this reality and create a new reality but this time without Satan and thus no way to stop him. Satan wanted mankind to have the Tree of Knowledge without being indoctrinated with God's viewpoint because he wanted Humans to become powerful enough to take over God. How do you do that? By making a new reality but in our image not God's and doing to him what he wants to do to Satan. From my view people who take the Bible as meaning that Satan caused harm actually miss the point of it, at least from my view. You do know the Bible was ripped from an older religion that the 'Satan 'figure kept tempting man, the creation of God to go on cosmic adventures with him. Lucifer means Lord of the Mourning The tower of babel was a space elevator... <_< >_> Adam and Eve lived on a testing habitat on a space station, Tower of Babel was a Space Elevator or a Radio-Station, capabale of inter-stellar signals - or a space station so that might've been where they lived, the flood was caused during a war between aliens from mars and the destroyed planet that now makes up the inner asteroid belt (Mars was"lucky" enough to just be turned into a uninhabitle desert) Noah's Arc was a Spacehip or gene-bank/-storage that saved mankind, Atlantis existed in the times during the biblical flood, the Moon is hollow and actually a space ship that brought refugees from Mars to Earth and they built the Pyramids which are actually a power plant. I could go on and on about this but I think you get the point. Pictured is the Serpent giving Eve the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge.  Sexy isn't it? There's a reason why I said I had it when I was younger. Like really young. I was just shitposting. |
3243259424Feb 21, 2019 11:03 PM
| God? Even spotting Elvis in New York right now is more believable than such a make-believe entity. |
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3243259424 said: Soverign said: Yeah.You do know the Bible was ripped from an older religion that the 'Satan 'figure kept tempting man, the creation of God to go on cosmic adventures with him. Lucifer means Lord of the Mourning The tower of babel was a space elevator... <_< >_> Adam and Eve lived on a testing habitat on a space station, Tower of Babel was a Space Elevator or a Radio-Station, capabale of inter-stellar signals - or a space station so that might've been where they lived, the flood was caused during a war between aliens from mars and the destroyed planet that now makes up the inner asteroid belt (Mars was"lucky" enough to just be turned into a uninhabitle desert) Noah's Arc was a Spacehip or gene-bank/-storage that saved mankind, Atlantis existed in the times during the biblical flood, the Moon is hollow and actually a space ship that brought refugees from Mars to Earth and they built the Pyramids which are actually a power plant. I could go on and on about this but I think you get the point. Pictured is the Serpent giving Eve the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge. Sexy isn't it? There's a reason why I said I had it when I was younger. Like really young. I was just shitposting. Its cool man. I just follow the programming Dr. Yakub gave me all those years ago. Also, I am a big fan of عزرائيل. |
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complice said: Railey2 said: because he was born for that purposeso you are saying that God created that 5 year old knowing full well that this child was going to die in misery through no fault of their own? It was planned, 100% on purpose? Ok. How is that not evil? Lol. God created the most beautiful, pure, perfect servile creation. The angels. They bored him too death. So he created man, who, in his base imperfection forced a evolution (corruption) in his perfect creation, the angels. God was amused. You are less than a spec of sand, if not less. If you cure cancer or not, both amuse God and is his will. |
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You wanna become a minor death angel under his authority and ultimately God's in your afterlife don't you. All the killing, and paranormal lonely hero shit only you get eternity in heaven, because you did God's work. That sucks, might as well make a good use of your time, you only have eternity. |
complice said: haha damn. I hope you get raped, cause I guess it's ok if you were born for it.Railey2 said: because he was born for that purposeso you are saying that God created that 5 year old knowing full well that this child was going to die in misery through no fault of their own? It was planned, 100% on purpose? Ok. How is that not evil? Anyways, you're either very dumb, very young, or very brainwashed. Likely a combination, or perhaps all three. This "conversation" is over. |
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3243259424 said: You wanna become a minor death angel under his authority and ultimately God's in your afterlife don't you. All the killing, and paranormal lonely hero shit only you get eternity in heaven, because you did God's work. That sucks, might as well make a good use of your time, you only have eternity. Oh shit... shut it down!!! W-why would you say such a thing? He is the patron of the Illuminati what with the whole destruction and creation renewal thing! Like, look at my profile man, do I look like I want to kill every living thing on this planet? I am so misunderstood. ;_; |
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