| I want to put manga that I read in the past and now but I can't because for some reason those manga aren't approved. It's such a slow thing in how it works unlike with anime in which it's approved very fast. It makes me mad to see such difference. |
| The manga database has 4x the amount of entries than the anime database, which is also reflected in the queue size. There are only 6 manga database mods. While there are 13 anime database mods. Anyone is free to apply to become a mod: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1435506 Mods are regular people like you and me, who volunteer on the site in their free time. If you want to see a difference, you have to be a part of the solution. Otherwise beggars can't be choosers. |
lanblade said: The manga database has 4x the amount of entries than the anime database, which is also reflected in the queue size. There's a queue? Can you share a link to location where queue is located/visible? if possible? ;) |
Ror_Schach said: lanblade said: The manga database has 4x the amount of entries than the anime database, which is also reflected in the queue size. There's a queue? Can you share a link to location where queue is located/visible? if possible? ;) The queue is only visible for manga mods. You can see entries in the queue but imputing a database number that is not present in the visible database. For example, the most recently approved manga with the highest DB number https://myanimelist.net/manga.php?o=9&c%5B0%5D=a&c%5B1%5D=d&cv=2 is Fork in the Road https://myanimelist.net/manga/115629/ It is the 115,629th item. Increase it by 1 and you get a queue item https://myanimelist.net/manga/115630 "I was wrong" the one-shot. Increase again https://myanimelist.net/manga/115631 "Boku-ra wa Mahou Shounen" or even decrease. Because the next recently approved manga with the second highest DB number was Bukatsu, Suki ja Nakya Dame desu ka? https://myanimelist.net/manga/115569/ as we saw in the Just Added section. Which means there are 60 titles in the between them. https://myanimelist.net/manga/115628 if you get a 404 page that means the manga has been rejected and you can find its number "115628" in the rejection thread. https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=60908&show=1600#msg39582499 Apparently that entry was an OEL called Ravina the Witch? and rejected because we don't accept English-made manga. But just keep going between https://myanimelist.net/manga/115627 If your ever on a page and don't know if it's a queue item or not, try adding it to your list. If it is, you will receive an message "This manga is pending approval." in the Edit Status section instead of the "Successfully added." message. |
| While the long queue and lack of mods are an understandable problem, the way the database is handled seems rather strange. There are entries that have been pending for approval for over two and a half years now (ex, ex2) that are visible since they've been added to their authors' pages, while I'm sure about everyone here can agree they have something published just this year on their lists. Similarly, not only was Hokenshitsu no Tsumuri-san almost immediately added to the author's page, but has also had its description updated since I added it, yet it is still pending approval. |
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lanblade said: The manga database has 4x the amount of entries than the anime database, which is also reflected in the queue size. There are only 6 manga database mods. While there are 13 anime database mods. Anyone is free to apply to become a mod: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1435506 Mods are regular people like you and me, who volunteer on the site in their free time. If you want to see a difference, you have to be a part of the solution. Otherwise beggars can't be choosers. I applied to work on the Manga Database a while ago, when they opened up applications. But never heard back from anyone on the MAL staff after I submitted the application. So, I spend time creating manga entries in hopes they get approved :( I also have over 50 manga "pending approval" that I would love to add to my read list.....such torture! |
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| @luinthoron mods don't have to work chronologically. The freedom to assess a manga that just stared being published this week versus a manga published 2 years ago is their right. No different than modding on other websites like Reddit. Since mods are volunteers the last thing you want is to force chronology and then have most of them quit. There has to be some component of fun to keep productivity stable. @RachelPanda did you have any previous history of submitting manga database requests? I ask because I know a couple ppl who applied to be anime db mods but also were not hired....because the work they did was subpar. Little mistakes here and there even though they were very hard workers with enthusiasm. The db mods don't have time to clean up the messes of another db mod. You really can only make 1 mistake for every 100 entries. How long ago was it when you applied? I know you can resubmit once every 9 months. I think it shows quite the patience to do so as well as diligence for following the application rules. |
lanblade said: @luinthoron mods don't have to work chronologically. The freedom to assess a manga that just stared being published this week versus a manga published 2 years ago is their right. No different than modding on other websites like Reddit. Since mods are volunteers the last thing you want is to force chronology and then have most of them quit. There has to be some component of fun to keep productivity stable. While this is, admittedly, understandable for the most part, there should also be some preference given to manga already visible on the site like those I've given as examples. It can be quite frustrating for users to see the entries, but not to be able to add them to their lists. Either this, or anything pending approval should not become visible even if it is connected to another entry, e.g. the author in these cases. |
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lanblade said: @luinthoron mods don't have to work chronologically. The freedom to assess a manga that just stared being published this week versus a manga published 2 years ago is their right. No different than modding on other websites like Reddit. Since mods are volunteers the last thing you want is to force chronology and then have most of them quit. There has to be some component of fun to keep productivity stable. @RachelPanda did you have any previous history of submitting manga database requests? I ask because I know a couple ppl who applied to be anime db mods but also were not hired....because the work they did was subpar. Little mistakes here and there even though they were very hard workers with enthusiasm. The db mods don't have time to clean up the messes of another db mod. You really can only make 1 mistake for every 100 entries. How long ago was it when you applied? I know you can resubmit once every 9 months. I think it shows quite the patience to do so as well as diligence for following the application rules. I'm sure that I had submitted characters, manga, and people to the database before applying. Not really sure if my additions were sub-par or not. Sometimes i get an accepted, but mostly denied with a link to a "duplicate entry" made by a mod after I had submitted the addition. There isn't really a template to go by when adding. I try to fill in as many of the boxes as possible. I even go to the original pages(when they are available) and find published dates. That said, I also add links to references like manga updates or any other site I use to fill in the boxes. I do that just in case the web page is in a language I don't understand; also to show where I got my information from. ex: Found@Insert web page url here |
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| Sorry for the noobness here, but is it possible to check/edit your pending entries? I submitted two Katsuhiro Otomo anthologies, even put the release dates, but didn't find where to put the author's name, and on the first one I didn't list the story names... I also want to submit this Keiichi Koike one, The Man of the Sun and the Woman of the Earth, but I can't find any information about it so I don't know what to do... |
PiraHxCxNov 5, 2018 1:35 PM
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PxHC said: but didn't find where to put the author's name There is no place for the author's name, for this you would need to add the manga to the author's entry. |
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PxHC said: Sorry for the noobness here, but is it possible to check/edit your pending entries? I submitted two Katsuhiro Otomo anthologies, even put the release dates, but didn't find where to put the author's name, and on the first one I didn't list the story names... I also want to submit this Keeichi Koike one, The Man of the Sun and the Woman of the Earth, but I can't find any information about it so I don't know what to do... You can't directly edit your submissions, but you can see them and submit edit requests to the DB mods on the submission's page, which you can search for via this page. I wouldn't worry though, because the mods will be able to take care of it (albeit quite slowly due to a severe lack of manpower). Also, I ended up taking the liberty of submitting the Koike oneshot myself. |
| @Denji oh yea, found my entries, messed up both hehehe (put as manga and not one-shot, and first one didn't properly mark the genres) Boogie Woogie Waltz Good Weather. And thank you for submitting the Koike's one :) |
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lanblade said: The manga database has 4x the amount of entries than the anime database, which is also reflected in the queue size. There are only 6 manga database mods. While there are 13 anime database mods. Anyone is free to apply to become a mod: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1435506 Mods are regular people like you and me, who volunteer on the site in their free time. If you want to see a difference, you have to be a part of the solution. Otherwise beggars can't be choosers. A 9 months ago or so forum was in a chaotic situation and people were claiming that there isn't enough mods. I had enough time back then and told my self why not apply and guess what : The last recruitment ended in Sept 2017. The next recruitment is expected: Soon (Accepting Apps). Funny when you apply for something and wait for decades with no response I am not even interested right now... |
changelog said: I'm guessing it is because there are so many more manga than anime and MAL has a shortage (or at least fewer than usual) of manga DB mods. On the staff recruitment page it says that they are currently accepting manga DB mods, so maybe when more people are hired stuff will speed up. Ahum, so ehh... where is the manga database mods recruitment page??? |
| Do they ever get approved at all? Submited Boogie Woogie Waltz Good Weather 4 months ago... |
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| Very bad situation with manga approval. Really we have to keep manga lists on alternate resources? |
| Yeah, there is this one manga I read recently that I want added to the database, but it's been pending for around a year. |
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| Kineta mentioned recruiting manga mods when she announced the new forum mods, but alas nothing has happened yet. |
ZhouFeb 27, 2019 5:16 AM
| I have the impression that a lot of people leave MAL because of this. |
Akagi-kun said: I have the impression that a lot of people leave MAL because of this. Don't think you're wrong about that. hopefully they add new mods soon. |
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Ponds667 said: Akagi-kun said: I have the impression that a lot of people leave MAL because of this. hopefully they add new mods soon. Well, I certainly hope so. |
Also, did I miss something because it looks like there's only 5 manga mods on the staff page... weren't there 6 before? |
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Ponds667 said: Also, did I miss something because it looks like there's only 5 manga mods on the staff page... weren't there 6 before? Ana recently retired. https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ana |
MaoraFeb 27, 2019 12:44 PM
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| I mean, the only two that seem to be active at all are Jinbou and KuroDubZero. :/ |
MaoraFeb 27, 2019 3:35 PM
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| I don't think it's really a problem to recruit new technical moderators... |
We're really going through applications this week (I'm looking through them right now), but there's a lot of people and things that need checking. Nobody has been contacted yet, but the process is moving along. No ETA for how long everything will take since there's a few things new people will need to get through before becoming a database mod. |
KuroDubZero said: We're really going through applications this week (I'm looking through them right now), but there's a lot of people and things that need checking. Nobody has been contacted yet, but the process is moving along. No ETA for how long everything will take since there's a few things new people will need to get through before becoming a database mod. I am glad that the process is underway. We're rooting for you. |
PxHC said: Do they ever get approved at all? Submited Boogie Woogie Waltz Good Weather 4 months ago... been two years now... |
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