High School DxD (light novel)
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Apr 9, 2018 12:05 PM
#1
| There's a bit of confusion going on between various threads so this thread is to clear up some of that and hopefully contain those questions in this thread. There's no spoilers in this thread for future events or anything. Why does Hero have a new art style and studio? You may have heard that BorN had a bad rep among LN readers due to anime original content and changes. There was quite a bit of misinformation floating around in the last few years since it aired, but we have a chunk of the full story now due to Dragon Magazine interviews. Author Ichiei Ishibumi, director Tetsuya Yanagisawa, and producer Takao Yoshioka were brainstorming how to best cover content going forward in High School DxD's adaptations, due to an imbalance in volumes, particularly in the current arc that's happening in the anime. For reference, season 1 covered volumes 1 and 2, season 2 covered volumes 3 and 4, but things went awry with season 3. The current arc that's being covered ends with volume 12, but volume 8 is a collection of side stories, so that means there is an odd number of volumes in the arc, 11 of them. Volumes 9-12 are often considered one of the peaks of the series, so the three of them knew that they had to cut a corner at some point, and that it would have to be volumes 5-7. These were the three volumes that were supposed to be covered in season 3. Tetsuya Yanagisawa is the director and in the contracts held by various people in the anime, that makes him the one with the highest power, second to only Kadokawa. He believed himself to be the one who made the series popular thanks to his adaptation, namely, the first two seasons. What follows is most likely obvious: he decided to write BorN's script, and told Ichiei Ishibumi to storyboard it. Obviously, Ishibumi and Yoshioka attempted to protest this since it bastardized some of the canon and also cut out very important scenes that the series needs to continue beyond a potential season 5. Ultimately, TNK and the staff became split, with one side being Ishibumi, Yoshioka, and sound director Jin Aketagawa. The other side was Yanagisawa, and essentially the rest of the staff, not including the voice actors, of course. In the end, BorN happened just as Yanagisawa wished, although it was met with lots of criticism. MAL and other English-speaking sites aside, the Japanese fans were pretty upset too, with even the anime-only viewers noticing that the season was quite bad. It extended beyond just the writing, as the art and animation took a massive nosedive in quality too. Season 1 was noted to be quite well produced for a battle harem adaptation, and season 2 mostly held up, but season 3 fell to filler tier animation regularly, and Japanese fans also began to complain about the art style not looking similar to the LN illustrations at all, anime-original designs looking awful, and the art style looking too old for a modern series. Author Ichiei Ishibumi ended up salvaging it by bundling a novel titled High School DxD EX with the BDs of BorN, which used the plot of the LNs to retcon the season as something from an altered timeline. It also helped boost the sales of the BDs, as many Japanese fans only originally bought them to see volumes 9-12 adapted someday. Once the season ended, Ishibumi ended up getting Kadokawa involved, and the rest is history. If it wasn't evident, the new season took so long because they fired almost the entire staff and had to find a new studio for DxD. Passione was first rumored to be the new studio over a year ago now on the Japanese board 2ch, which means Hero has been in production for over a year now. The art style was also overhauled to match the expectations of fans who had begun complaining near the end of season 2, and also to accommodate for better animation. You may have heard so, but the truth is that the series starts to have rather over the top action sequences starting with volume 9, so in the first place, TNK would've never had a chance to pull those volumes off, even with the effort behind season 1. Those are the two main reasons why the art looks more like the LN's illustrations, and why the animation looks more fluid now. The art style of an anime does in fact influence how it looks in motion, which is another reason why the characters look more soft and fluid, as opposed to like a walking key visual from before. What went wrong with BorN? Is it really not canon? I'll avoid just about any LN spoilers here, so it should be safe to read. BorN was supposed to cover volumes 5-7 of the light novel, but obviously that didn't end up happening. About 50% of volume 5 was covered, with the rest being completely cut. As for volume 6, about 70% of it was covered, with the rest being cut, and the ending being altered. I'm referring to the outcome of Issei using Juggernaut Drive, when I say the ending. As for volume 7, less than 5% of it was covered at most, with the rest being entirely cut and re-purposed into anime original content. Volume 7 is the volume that dealt with Loki, so if you remember BorN, you should instantly realize that the events weren't even in the correct order in that season. I won't say what it is, but you've probably heard that something important was cut in BorN, and that it was a big deal. Yes, there was quite a bit cut, but one thing in particular at the end of volume 7 that is so quintessentially important to the series that it left many LN fans doubtful that a season 4 would even be made. It isn't something that's immediately important, meaning it doesn't impact Hero or a potential 5th season, but if DxD makes it to a 6th season, it becomes important. It's so important that the entire plot of the LN from that point onward can't possibly happen without that event. What is Hero covering? Is it faithful? Hero is confirmed to cover volumes 9 and 10. High School DxD Hero: Taiikukan-ura no Holy or Episode 0/Life.00 is a retconning recap that correctly adapts the ending of volume 6. That is to say, how BorN was supposed to end. It seems that from a PV, one chapter of volume 7 will be adapted in episode 1 for some foreshadowing, and consistency. That however, is NOT the important thing that has been cut. It's possible that future seasons and/or OVAs will do more of the retconning recaps in order to fix volumes 5 and 7, but for now those two still have not been correctly shown. It's impossible to say for sure since it has not quite aired yet at the time of this being posted, but this seems to be the most faithful season yet. Author Ichiei Ishibumi has been upgraded to script writer now, and had the staff read the LNs up to current releases, in order to ensure accuracy. DxD even from season 1, has been riddled with inaccuracies. Such as Riser in season 1 saying that Gremory, Sitri, and Phoenix were the only remaining 72 pillars, but BorN suddenly goes to the underworld and it's shown that all 72 pillars still exist. That much, is true to the LN. Designs were also a source of inconsistency in the anime. It's usually just hair or eye color, but some examples were: Tsubaki Shinra having brown eyes in the anime, with her having heterochromia in the LN. Momo Hanakai having silver hair in the anime, with her having black hair in the LN. Xenovia having yellow/gold eyes in the anime, with her having brown eyes in the LN. Vali Lucifer having blue eyes in the anime, with him having yellow eyes in the LN. Bikou having black hair in the anime, with him having lighter hair in the LN. Two other gradual changes that happen throughout the series are supposed to be Xenovia's green highlight fading (it's just a highlight and she just keeps blue hair full time later on), Issei physically growing (he's supposed to gain a more muscular tone after his training with Tannin in BorN, and by Hero should be as tall as Rias), but this point seems to be ignored still in Hero. As for the others, we haven't seen Tsubaki, Momo, or Bikou yet, but we have seen that they have corrected Xenovia and Vali's designs to match the LN designs. All in all, the author said that Hero is first and foremost designed to cater to the LN fans the most, meaning it will attempt to follow it including the matching designs. Other reports from pre-screening said there was no mention of BorN at all in the first episode, which seems to indicate that they will pretend that nothing wrong happened at all, and continue on as if it was properly adapted. |
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Apr 9, 2018 1:51 PM
#3
| so their is a possible chance that their won't be a season 6 bc of missing info from born |
Apr 9, 2018 2:16 PM
#4
| Thank You for posting this. As an anime-only watcher I am still bothered by the fact that BorN did not adapt the novels well, I still enjoyed the season but it was the weakest of the three. I was even thinking of reading the volumes that BorN was meant to adapt so that I could get the true story in preparation for the new season but I kept forgetting to do so. I hope they can fill in the gaps with an OVA or something and that we can get seasons 5 and beyond. |
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Apr 9, 2018 2:35 PM
#5
| I dropped BorN entirely after several episodes as it was a mess. I really hope Hero covers things up. Guess I'll just have to really watch BorN to watch Hero as it's a direct sequel. *Sigh* Just a wishful thought, it would've been nice if Hero was a remake of BorN or Season 3 Alternative. |
Apr 9, 2018 3:03 PM
#6
| Why it includes only 13 episodes ? :( btw anyone can tell me if release times are also uncensored ? |
Apr 9, 2018 3:07 PM
#7
hiraishinx said: Why it includes only 13 episodes ? :( btw anyone can tell me if release times are also uncensored ? It's the same deal as before. Official subs will be censored, fansubs/raws will be uncensored. |
Apr 9, 2018 3:19 PM
#8
SPEERS said: hiraishinx said: Why it includes only 13 episodes ? :( btw anyone can tell me if release times are also uncensored ? It's the same deal as before. Official subs will be censored, fansubs/raws will be uncensored. Thanks for information. |
Apr 9, 2018 4:28 PM
#9
hiraishinx said: SPEERS said: hiraishinx said: Why it includes only 13 episodes ? :( btw anyone can tell me if release times are also uncensored ? It's the same deal as before. Official subs will be censored, fansubs/raws will be uncensored. Thanks for information. Because having more than 13ep is hard studios like J.C, Toei, Madhouse, Bone, Sunrise.... However in the end of the day, its really the producers choice, do they want to fund more so more episodes occur? Like when hxh 2011 became a thing producers had confident that it will sell and madhouse doing such a big project with relative small studio when it comes to like Toei so they were pretty smart and outsourced alot with corrections from main leads, Good time schedule to the key animators, its overall production was amazing tbh. |
Apr 9, 2018 5:39 PM
#10
deki_speed said: so their is a possible chance that their won't be a season 6 bc of missing info from born I think there is a chance if season 4 sells really well. Even though they cut out the important part from Born, the are continuing with the 4th season like Born never happened. So there's is a chance that we will se the cut out part in season 4 as a flashback or something. |
Apr 9, 2018 6:35 PM
#11
| I just realized I barely remember Season 3 xD. Could you elaborate on what was it that they cut from the Loki arc?? I only remember it being all over the place and then that hideous anime-original finale... Wait, was it Chichigami-sama?? Did they really cut that?? I really have very vague memories about the 3rd season xD. I could have sworn that was in the animation... but now that I think about it... it wasn't. Damn, was BorN bad. |
Apr 9, 2018 7:56 PM
#12
| Hey, anyone interested in tell me what was that important thing that was cut from volume 7, I don't have time to read it so, you know... |
Apr 9, 2018 8:14 PM
#13
| Well its a good thing that they are faithfully adapting the LNs for this season. I dont read LNs or manga but from the past experiences i can definetly say that faithful adaptations are always better. blueswizzle said: Well they can adapt that part as OVAs or ONAs like Oreimo diddeki_speed said: so their is a possible chance that their won't be a season 6 bc of missing info from born I think there is a chance if season 4 sells really well. Even though they cut out the important part from Born, the are continuing with the 4th season like Born never happened. So there's is a chance that we will se the cut out part in season 4 as a flashback or something. |
Apr 9, 2018 8:45 PM
#14
deki_speed said: so their is a possible chance that their won't be a season 6 bc of missing info from born They'll just have to introduce it in another non-canon way. It's just a character. I don't think its that big of a deal. |
NainApr 9, 2018 8:52 PM
Apr 9, 2018 9:20 PM
#16
SPEERS said: There's a bit of confusion going on between various threads so this thread is to clear up some of that and hopefully contain those questions in this thread. There's no spoilers in this thread for future events or anything. Why does Hero have a new art style and studio? You may have heard that BorN had a bad rep among LN readers due to anime original content and changes. There was quite a bit of misinformation floating around in the last few years since it aired, but we have a chunk of the full story now due to Dragon Magazine interviews. Author Ichiei Ishibumi, director Tetsuya Yanagisawa, and producer Takao Yoshioka were brainstorming how to best cover content going forward in High School DxD's adaptations, due to an imbalance in volumes, particularly in the current arc that's happening in the anime. For reference, season 1 covered volumes 1 and 2, season 2 covered volumes 3 and 4, but things went awry with season 3. The current arc that's being covered ends with volume 12, but volume 8 is a collection of side stories, so that means there is an odd number of volumes in the arc, 11 of them. Volumes 9-12 are often considered one of the peaks of the series, so the three of them knew that they had to cut a corner at some point, and that it would have to be volumes 5-7. These were the three volumes that were supposed to be covered in season 3. Tetsuya Yanagisawa is the director and in the contracts held by various people in the anime, that makes him the one with the highest power, second to only Kadokawa. He believed himself to be the one who made the series popular thanks to his adaptation, namely, the first two seasons. What follows is most likely obvious: he decided to write BorN's script, and told Ichiei Ishibumi to storyboard it. Obviously, Ishibumi and Yoshioka attempted to protest this since it bastardized some of the canon and also cut out very important scenes that the series needs to continue beyond a potential season 5. Ultimately, TNK and the staff became split, with one side being Ishibumi, Yoshioka, and sound director Jin Aketagawa. The other side was Yanagisawa, and essentially the rest of the staff, not including the voice actors, of course. In the end, BorN happened just as Yanagisawa wished, although it was met with lots of criticism. MAL and other English-speaking sites aside, the Japanese fans were pretty upset too, with even the anime-only viewers noticing that the season was quite bad. It extended beyond just the writing, as the art and animation took a massive nosedive in quality too. Season 1 was noted to be quite well produced for a battle harem adaptation, and season 2 mostly held up, but season 3 fell to filler tier animation regularly, and Japanese fans also began to complain about the art style not looking similar to the LN illustrations at all, anime-original designs looking awful, and the art style looking too old for a modern series. Author Ichiei Ishibumi ended up salvaging it by bundling a novel titled High School DxD EX with the BDs of BorN, which used the plot of the LNs to retcon the season as something from an altered timeline. It also helped boost the sales of the BDs, as many Japanese fans only originally bought them to see volumes 9-12 adapted someday. Once the season ended, Ishibumi ended up getting Kadokawa involved, and the rest is history. If it wasn't evident, the new season took so long because they fired almost the entire staff and had to find a new studio for DxD. Passione was first rumored to be the new studio over a year ago now on the Japanese board 2ch, which means Hero has been in production for over a year now. The art style was also overhauled to match the expectations of fans who had begun complaining near the end of season 2, and also to accommodate for better animation. You may have heard so, but the truth is that the series starts to have rather over the top action sequences starting with volume 9, so in the first place, TNK would've never had a chance to pull those volumes off, even with the effort behind season 1. Those are the two main reasons why the art looks more like the LN's illustrations, and why the animation looks more fluid now. The art style of an anime does in fact influence how it looks in motion, which is another reason why the characters look more soft and fluid, as opposed to like a walking key visual from before. What went wrong with BorN? Is it really not canon? I'll avoid just about any LN spoilers here, so it should be safe to read. BorN was supposed to cover volumes 5-7 of the light novel, but obviously that didn't end up happening. About 50% of volume 5 was covered, with the rest being completely cut. As for volume 6, about 70% of it was covered, with the rest being cut, and the ending being altered. I'm referring to the outcome of Issei using Juggernaut Drive, when I say the ending. As for volume 7, less than 5% of it was covered at most, with the rest being entirely cut and re-purposed into anime original content. Volume 7 is the volume that dealt with Loki, so if you remember BorN, you should instantly realize that the events weren't even in the correct order in that season. I won't say what it is, but you've probably heard that something important was cut in BorN, and that it was a big deal. Yes, there was quite a bit cut, but one thing in particular at the end of volume 7 that is so quintessentially important to the series that it left many LN fans doubtful that a season 4 would even be made. It isn't something that's immediately important, meaning it doesn't impact Hero or a potential 5th season, but if DxD makes it to a 6th season, it becomes important. It's so important that the entire plot of the LN from that point onward can't possibly happen without that event. What is Hero covering? Is it faithful? Hero is confirmed to cover volumes 9 and 10. Reports from episode 1's pre-screening and the 2nd PV seem to indicate that the first episode (since it's 13 episodes for this season) will adapt a chapter from volume 7 that was cut, for foreshadowing and consistency's sake, then jump to volume 9. It is not the important scene that was cut from BorN however, because it's now impossible to adapt that scene. It could only possibly be shown in a retconning flashback, or OVA at this point. It's impossible to say for sure since it has not quite aired yet at the time of this being posted, but this seems to be the most faithful season yet. Author Ichiei Ishibumi has been upgraded to script writer now, and had the staff read the LNs up to current releases, in order to ensure accuracy. DxD even from season 1, has been riddled with inaccuracies. Such as Riser in season 1 saying that Gremory, Sitri, and Phoenix were the only remaining 72 pillars, but BorN suddenly goes to the underworld and it's shown that all 72 pillars still exist. That much, is true to the LN. Designs were also a source of inconsistency in the anime. It's usually just hair or eye color, but some examples were: Tsubaki Shinra having brown eyes in the anime, with her having heterochromia in the LN. Momo Hanakai having silver hair in the anime, with her having black hair in the LN. Xenovia having yellow/gold eyes in the anime, with her having brown eyes in the LN. Vali Lucifer having blue eyes in the anime, with him having yellow eyes in the LN. Bikou having black hair in the anime, with him having silver hair in the LN. Two other gradual changes that happen throughout the series are supposed to be Xenovia's green highlight fading (it's just a highlight and she just keeps blue hair full time later on), Issei physically growing (he's supposed to gain a more muscular tone after his training with Tannin in BorN, and by Hero should be as tall as Rias), but this point seems to be ignored still in Hero. As for the others, we haven't seen Tsubaki, Momo, or Bikou yet, but we have seen that they have corrected Xenovia and Vali's designs to match the LN designs. All in all, the author said that Hero is first and foremost designed to cater to the LN fans the most, meaning it will attempt to follow it including the matching designs. Other reports from pre-screening said there was no mention of BorN at all in the first episode, which seems to indicate that they will pretend that nothing wrong happened at all, and continue on as if it was properly adapted. This is really insightful, thanks for taking the time to post this... |
Apr 9, 2018 9:23 PM
#17
Eternal_Yami said: I feel the same wayThank You for posting this. As an anime-only watcher I am still bothered by the fact that BorN did not adapt the novels well, I still enjoyed the season but it was the weakest of the three. I was even thinking of reading the volumes that BorN was meant to adapt so that I could get the true story in preparation for the new season but I kept forgetting to do so. I hope they can fill in the gaps with an OVA or something and that we can get seasons 5 and beyond. |
Apr 9, 2018 10:16 PM
#18
Nain said: They'll just have to introduce it in another non-canon way. It's just a character. I don't think its that big of a deal. But OP said that that part was important for making next seasons. Didnt he? |
Apr 9, 2018 11:16 PM
#19
| Thanks OP for posting that. As a anime-only watcher, I also felt out of place with BorN (maybe only with the last chapters). I'm also curious about the event that was cut. |
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Apr 10, 2018 1:42 AM
#20
| Thanks for clearing things up mate |
Apr 10, 2018 1:45 AM
#21
Apr 10, 2018 2:58 AM
#22
| The last two episodes where anime orginal as well |
Apr 10, 2018 3:08 AM
#23
| Thank you for your post. really helpful. I only watch the three seasons in March and I enjoy so much that I am currently reading the light novel series (or trying eheh). Yeah, I make the same question as a person above. What's that thing that's so different? Would appreciate thank you. Uncensored version in this series is quite boring no? After all everything works around Oppai.. :D |
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Apr 10, 2018 3:58 AM
#24
| @autisticanime yes issei has been known to have flashbacks and dreams about raynare. and will be a big part in season 4 if its done right as it is one the main reason issei is scared |
Apr 10, 2018 7:46 AM
#25
| So it seems I was a bit wrong. Episode 0 just aired and they fixed BorN's adaptation of volume 6 to match the LN. That means they'll probably do another episode 0 if there's a season 5 to fix volume 7 too. |
Apr 10, 2018 7:53 AM
#26
| @Speers. Doubtful. They're already going to V9 & V10, no point doing V7 anymore. |
Apr 10, 2018 8:00 AM
#27
ixarising said: @Speers. Doubtful. They're already going to V9 & V10, no point doing V7 anymore. They're gonna need to for a certain goddess, should they continue on. The recap episode was also well-received so far from Japanese fans, so it might've been testing the waters. All the retcon episode did to help this season was show the heroes at the end. |
Apr 10, 2018 1:35 PM
#28
autisticanime said: Quick question: was that whole "Raymere flashbacks/dreams" Issei was having in BORN in the novels or was that anime original? That didn't seem to be going anywhere. That assisted in pushing Issei to enter Juggernaut Drive when he thought Asia died. Idk if it was a part of the novels, but it did go somewhere. |
Apr 10, 2018 1:55 PM
#29
Nain said: autisticanime said: Quick question: was that whole "Raymere flashbacks/dreams" Issei was having in BORN in the novels or was that anime original? That didn't seem to be going anywhere. That assisted in pushing Issei to enter Juggernaut Drive when he thought Asia died. Idk if it was a part of the novels, but it did go somewhere. Yes Issei was having nightmare's etc about Raymere in the novels, it actually plays a pretty big role in his interaction with the girls around him. |
Apr 10, 2018 2:56 PM
#30
| OP: Thank you very much for the clarifications. Hopefully this'll help reduce the number of times certain questions get spammed this season. The only odd thing I noticed is that Bikou's hair is now brown.. Not sure why'd they'd go with a 3rd color other than to mix things up w/ too many light colors already? Oh! In the closing scene at track, it actually looks like Issei is taller than Rias. So they aren't totally ignoring physical character growth. ^^ They might be the same height.. hard to tell w/ these hairstyles. lol Newhopes said: Nain said: autisticanime said: Quick question: was that whole "Raymere flashbacks/dreams" Issei was having in BORN in the novels or was that anime original? That didn't seem to be going anywhere. That assisted in pushing Issei to enter Juggernaut Drive when he thought Asia died. Idk if it was a part of the novels, but it did go somewhere. Yes Issei was having nightmare's etc about Raymere in the novels, it actually plays a pretty big role in his interaction with the girls around him. The trauma from Reynare is the primary reason why Issei is still not a teen father. >_>;; He tries to come up with all sort of internal justifications about love and honor and respect.. but the truth is.... chicks be scary. ._.;; |
deadman80Apr 10, 2018 3:17 PM
Apr 10, 2018 4:08 PM
#31
deadman80 said: The trauma from Reynare is the primary reason why Issei is still not a teen father. >_>;; He tries to come up with all sort of internal justifications about love and honor and respect.. but the truth is.... chicks be scary. ._.;; Oh come on. The guy has boobies getting flung at him left, right, and centre. He's the harem king we need. No sympathy here. |
Apr 10, 2018 4:16 PM
#32
| thanks for the help. |
Apr 10, 2018 4:29 PM
#33
| Quick question I've only seen the anime but I knew Born was terrible and did a little digging into the light novel as was just wondering does Rossweisse start off as Rias servant in the first episode as it really came out of the blue at the end of Born and I'm not sure if that was meant to happen Edit: Also I've read this a bit but just to confirm should I just follow along with what happend in Born in Episode 1-9 and just ignore episodes 10, 11 and 12? |
MoltenFlameApr 10, 2018 4:52 PM
Apr 10, 2018 5:24 PM
#34
Nain said: deadman80 said: The trauma from Reynare is the primary reason why Issei is still not a teen father. >_>;; He tries to come up with all sort of internal justifications about love and honor and respect.. but the truth is.... chicks be scary. ._.;; Oh come on. The guy has boobies getting flung at him left, right, and centre. He's the harem king we need. No sympathy here. We are talking about the MC who's brain BSODs when trying to comprehend what two naked girls are trying to communicate when they throw themselves at him and say "Let's make babies." Raynare is his ultimate anti-fetish and this is unarguable canon. lol MoltenFlame said: Quick question I've only seen the anime but I knew Born was terrible and did a little digging into the light novel as was just wondering does Rossweisse start off as Rias servant in the first episode as it really came out of the blue at the end of Born and I'm not sure if that was meant to happen Edit: Also I've read this a bit but just to confirm should I just follow along with what happend in Born in Episode 1-9 and just ignore episodes 10, 11 and 12? Try marathoning BoRN while drunk off your ass.. Perhaps the classic "take a shot when you see a tit" drinking game would work for this. I don't recommend the "Random Gainaxing" game unless you are doing so with trustworthy friends who you can safely argue with over questionable calls along with someone who can function as an impartial referee. Then whatever you remember 4 days later is probably what matters. :3 |
deadman80Apr 10, 2018 5:34 PM
Apr 10, 2018 6:05 PM
#35
deadman80 said: Perhaps the classic "take a shot when you see a tit" drinking game would work for this. Are you trying to kill the man? |
Apr 10, 2018 7:04 PM
#36
| Thanks for the info OP. I've heard about it for so long that while I did buy it, I also took the info with a grain of salt until there was some sort of proper confirmation. I hope Passione does the best with Hero and that it allows them to make more faithful anime adaptations for the series. |
Apr 11, 2018 8:08 AM
#37
SPEERS said: ixarising said: @Speers. Doubtful. They're already going to V9 & V10, no point doing V7 anymore. They're gonna need to for a certain goddess, should they continue on. The recap episode was also well-received so far from Japanese fans, so it might've been testing the waters. All the retcon episode did to help this season was show the heroes at the end. That's assuming if they even plan to go that far. |
Apr 11, 2018 8:37 AM
#38
ixarising said: SPEERS said: ixarising said: @Speers. Doubtful. They're already going to V9 & V10, no point doing V7 anymore. They're gonna need to for a certain goddess, should they continue on. The recap episode was also well-received so far from Japanese fans, so it might've been testing the waters. All the retcon episode did to help this season was show the heroes at the end. That's assuming if they even plan to go that far. They might. DxD is pretty damn popular and it alway sells well when a new vol comes out. I'm just glad Ishibumi is doing the script writing this time. |
Apr 12, 2018 2:33 AM
#39
| whatever happens with Hero Season 5 seems to be a possibility for 2019 or 2020 I am going to read thee novel from the start again. Best anime and light novel ever |
Apr 12, 2018 3:16 AM
#40
| Thanks for clearing all that up. It was really helpful. I am a light novel reader so I already knew how much BorN messed up, but I didn't know all the behind the scenes stuff that went on. To be honest I think episode 0 of Hero was just a quick fix. It wouldn't surprise me if they announced season 5 almost directly after Hero finishes. Once season 5 concludes I think they will look at how well it did and if it does well I think they well completely remake BorN with like an 18 episode season before moving on to season 6. |
Apr 12, 2018 4:03 AM
#41
OneJammieDodger said: Thanks for clearing all that up. It was really helpful. I am a light novel reader so I already knew how much BorN messed up, but I didn't know all the behind the scenes stuff that went on. To be honest I think episode 0 of Hero was just a quick fix. It wouldn't surprise me if they announced season 5 almost directly after Hero finishes. Once season 5 concludes I think they will look at how well it did and if it does well I think they well completely remake BorN with like an 18 episode season before moving on to season 6. Oh god If there is a god i hope your words become a reality one day I think the end of this season 4 will impact alot on the possibility of season 5. Hop viewers like Hero so the studio is encourage to make more seasons and blu-ary does well |
Apr 12, 2018 4:15 AM
#42
ToBe2050goal said: OneJammieDodger said: Thanks for clearing all that up. It was really helpful. I am a light novel reader so I already knew how much BorN messed up, but I didn't know all the behind the scenes stuff that went on. To be honest I think episode 0 of Hero was just a quick fix. It wouldn't surprise me if they announced season 5 almost directly after Hero finishes. Once season 5 concludes I think they will look at how well it did and if it does well I think they well completely remake BorN with like an 18 episode season before moving on to season 6. Oh god If there is a god i hope your words become a reality one day I think the end of this season 4 will impact alot on the possibility of season 5. Hop viewers like Hero so the studio is encourage to make more seasons and blu-ary does well I am quite hopeful because the original author seems to pushing this a lot and now he has more control over the anime. But it does depend on the blue-ray sales in japan. There is plenty of content so they could get away with making a season a year if they wanted to. I do feel however that they would have to remake BorN in order to go past season 5. |
Apr 12, 2018 11:10 AM
#43
| Can someone tell me in a spoiler what was supposed to be the very important scene that got cut? Sadly my Japanese is not up to light novel reading levels yet. Luckily I also forgot most of the last horrible season so this retcon helped to reset it lmao. |
Apr 12, 2018 11:16 AM
#44
MomoSinX said: Can someone tell me in a spoiler what was supposed to be the very important scene that got cut? Sadly my Japanese is not up to light novel reading levels yet. Luckily I also forgot most of the last horrible season so this retcon helped to reset it lmao. The novels are translated up to volume 23 last I checked >.> |
Apr 12, 2018 1:45 PM
#45
| to the OP. There are some stubborn individuals who refuse to accept the truth. If you could possibly link to the interviews so as to silence their pathetic resistance once and for all, that would be great. |
Apr 12, 2018 1:48 PM
#46
Darklight0303 said: to the OP. There are some stubborn individuals who refuse to accept the truth. If you could possibly link to the interviews so as to silence their pathetic resistance once and for all, that would be great. I'd have to ask Code-Zero. This stuff is common knowledge on some Japanese boards like 5ch, but Code-Zero is the one who got the magazines and translated them for us about a year ago. I'll see if I can't find scans of them later. Anyways, if they want to delude themselves into thinking otherwise, it doesn't really matter. It was obvious to anyone that something was off in BorN. |
Apr 12, 2018 1:50 PM
#47
SPEERS said: Darklight0303 said: to the OP. There are some stubborn individuals who refuse to accept the truth. If you could possibly link to the interviews so as to silence their pathetic resistance once and for all, that would be great. I'd have to ask Code-Zero. This stuff is common knowledge on some Japanese boards like 5ch, but Code-Zero is the one who got the magazines and translated them for us about a year ago. I'll see if I can't find scans of them later. Anyways, if they want to delude themselves into thinking otherwise, it doesn't really matter. It was obvious to anyone that something was off in BorN. Bring it up to him anyway if it's not a bother. Wouldn't hurt to have more validity so that the delusions can be put under the sunlight to shrivel up and die |
Apr 12, 2018 2:14 PM
#48
| I am sorry for being a bit off topic but i watched the whole anime series a couple of times and i never actually noticed Momo Hanakai. Could you please tell me in which parts does the show feature her? |
Apr 13, 2018 3:53 AM
#49
| I knew some of this already. The parts I didn't know where the staff stuff and what percentage of each volume the anime did. I was originally going to read Volumes 5-7 before the BD's for Hero come out, but it appears I'm just going to have to start from the beginning. |
| If you see that my post is exactly 1 month old (or more) from when it was posted... Don't waste your time, especially when you want to reply with something petty & insignificant. Assume that I've moved on (because I have). |
Apr 13, 2018 11:51 AM
#50
| Couldn't they just reboot everything from the end of season 2? That would've been much better, having a proper adaptation of LN 5-7 with a proper design. |
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