 look at this... remember inferno cop? and it was not special to good things... pretty sure MArs of destruction rated that low because bandwagon meme... it wasn't that bad! same goes with tenkuu danzai... edit: guys, i am not complaining... i am wondering... just change my words so don't look too offensive... |
KumaOct 7, 2017 5:44 AM
 "If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| But but pengu in the city is actually good :( sad NOOT.NOOT |
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| okay tenkuu danzai was that bad so it deserves a bad rating |
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| Dont complain if you gave the series a 10 yourself |
| Op, you rated it 10, you're part of the problem. Stop the hypocrisy. |
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| Well... it IS better than Kimi no Trash wa for sure. |
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| i am not complaining... i am wondering... i rate inferno cope high as well... BlackFIFA19 said: Dont complain if you gave the series a 10 yourself except i am fans of this kind of series to begin with... look at my favorites... and i am genuinly like it TBF... make me remeber less abusive larva with more sol... like shirokuma cafe... damn i want my second season of shirokuma cafe... Salokannel2 said: okay tenkuu danzai was that bad so it deserves a bad rating are you sure about that? better than something on mal like this? |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
Kuma said: yeah both are really bad I know xddddi am not complaining... i am wondering... i rate inferno cope high as well... BlackFIFA19 said: Dont complain if you gave the series a 10 yourself except i am fans of this kind of series to begin with... look at my favorites... and i am genuinly like it TBF... make me remeber less abusive larva with more sol... like shirokuma cafe... damn i want my second season of shirokuma cafe... Salokannel2 said: okay tenkuu danzai was that bad so it deserves a bad rating are you sure about that? better than something on mal like this? |
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Salokannel2 said: Kuma said: yeah both are really bad I know xddddi am not complaining... i am wondering... i rate inferno cope high as well... except i am fans of this kind of series to begin with... look at my favorites... and i am genuinly like it TBF... make me remeber less abusive larva with more sol... like shirokuma cafe... damn i want my second season of shirokuma cafe... are you sure about that? better than something on mal like this? pretty sure MoD at least deserve better rangking than this... |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
Kuma said: well yeah probably not that I've seen MoD but nami was quite something Salokannel2 said: yeah both are really bad I know xdddd pretty sure MoD at least deserve better rangking than this... |
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Kuma said: Salokannel2 said: yeah both are really bad I know xdddd pretty sure MoD at least deserve better rangking than this... this is some weird, concept art independent short which is mostly confusing, absurd and weird and whose quality is hard to quantify beyond 'wtf'. Can't really compare it to a regular industry anime like MoD that just objectively fails at every criteria from writing to visuals. Just because independent shorts like this are in the same DB doesn't mean it makes sense to 1:1 compare them to industry products that are supposed to be commercially attractive. They (should) get scored differently. They're both among the worst of their kind but deciding which one is worse is not that obvious. Personally I find it worse be this bad for a full ~20 minutes instead of just being extremely weird for 1 minute. Anybody can come up with random, absurd shorts like that but making something with an actual story and characters this consistently bad makes the Idea Factory Masterpieces deserving of the title of worst anime on MAL imo. |
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Kuma said: does meme really affecting rating and popularity that much? You don't understand. The rating and popularity IS meme. This is why so many have warned others not to take the ratings so seriously. |
Pullman said: this is some weird, concept art independent short which is mostly confusing, absurd and weird and whose quality is hard to quantify beyond 'wtf'. Can't really compare it to a regular industry anime like MoD that just objectively fails at every criteria from writing to visuals. Just because independent shorts like this are in the same DB doesn't mean it makes sense to 1:1 compare them to industry products that are supposed to be commercially attractive. They (should) get scored differently. They're both among the worst of their kind but deciding which one is worse is not that obvious. Personally I find it worse be this bad for a full ~20 minutes instead of just being extremely weird for 1 minute. Anybody can come up with random, absurd shorts like that but making something with an actual story and characters this consistently bad makes the Idea Factory Masterpieces deserving of the title of worst anime on MAL imo. but because exact same reason, at least MoD has characters and story to tell. while nami? we aren't even starting with visual... TKB928 said: Kuma said: does meme really affecting rating and popularity that much? You don't understand. The rating and popularity IS meme. This is why so many have warned others not to take the ratings so seriously. i genuinly liked it tho... i love shorts... agresive retsuko also strong contender being 10/10 from me too... i just realize it is that high after checking mal... |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| Bandwagon affects ratings positively or negatively. This has been tested and proven. |
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psycho said: are people not allowed to rate their favourite anime or something they allow, i simply try to search reasonong behind it, which is meme... is it that great? or is it just sub culture.. or it's actually doesn't matter that much since it was only temporary? |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
Kuma said: Pullman said: this is some weird, concept art independent short which is mostly confusing, absurd and weird and whose quality is hard to quantify beyond 'wtf'. Can't really compare it to a regular industry anime like MoD that just objectively fails at every criteria from writing to visuals. Just because independent shorts like this are in the same DB doesn't mean it makes sense to 1:1 compare them to industry products that are supposed to be commercially attractive. They (should) get scored differently. They're both among the worst of their kind but deciding which one is worse is not that obvious. Personally I find it worse be this bad for a full ~20 minutes instead of just being extremely weird for 1 minute. Anybody can come up with random, absurd shorts like that but making something with an actual story and characters this consistently bad makes the Idea Factory Masterpieces deserving of the title of worst anime on MAL imo. but because exact same reason, at least MoD has characters and story to tell. while nami? we aren't even starting with visual... yeah but that's exactly why you can't compare music videos or arthouse shorts to industry products. because 80% of them have no 'characters' or 'story to tell' because they're trying to do something else aimed at a different kind of audience. So according to your logic that puts them on the same level as Nami and under something utterly bad like MoD. That just doesn't make sense. Simply having a story and characters is worthless, it depends on how good something as it the things it does and if it doesn't even try to do story or characters, those aspects don't matter and what matters are things like how interesting was the concept, did the art look cool, was the animation enjoyable, the music, how did they interact etc... Judging something based on what it wasn't trying to do is unfair and if you think like that why would you be watching arthouse shorts or music videos in the first place? I don't get it. But if something does try to have a story and characters, like Mod, and ends up being the worst of the worst in those regards, it's a complete failure and not better than other stuff that fails at different things. A complete fail is a complete fail. And it's much harder to fail this hard with a story and characters than with some obscure, freaky stop-motion arthouse short in my opinion. There are tons of similarly bad shorts and music videos in the DB and Nami only stands out a bit because of the combination of stop-motion/live action and being weirdly sexual which both don't really make it any better or worse, just more shocking. But there's almost nothing that reaches the kind of badness of Skelter Heaven and MoD. Even other Idea Factory works like Generation of Chaos seem like decent shows compared to those two. |
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Pullman said: Kuma said: but because exact same reason, at least MoD has characters and story to tell. while nami? we aren't even starting with visual... yeah but that's exactly why you can't compare music videos or arthouse shorts to industry products. because 80% of them have no 'characters' or 'story to tell' because they're trying to do something else aimed at a different kind of audience. So according to your logic that puts them on the same level as Nami and under something utterly bad like MoD. That just doesn't make sense. Simply having a story and characters is worthless, it depends on how good something as it the things it does and if it doesn't even try to do story or characters, those aspects don't matter and what matters are things like how interesting was the concept, did the art look cool, was the animation enjoyable, the music, how did they interact etc... Judging something based on what it wasn't trying to do is unfair and if you think like that why would you be watching arthouse shorts or music videos in the first place? I don't get it. But if something does try to have a story and characters, like Mod, and ends up being the worst of the worst in those regards, it's a complete failure and not better than other stuff that fails at different things. A complete fail is a complete fail. And it's much harder to fail this hard with a story and characters than with some obscure, freaky stop-motion arthouse short in my opinion. There are tons of similarly bad shorts and music videos in the DB and Nami only stands out a bit because of the combination of stop-motion/live action and being weirdly sexual which both don't really make it any better or worse, just more shocking. But there's almost nothing that reaches the kind of badness of Skelter Heaven and MoD. Even other Idea Factory works like Generation of Chaos seem like decent shows compared to those two. so, it is worse soething to be fail than something that not even try? sure short give has far less chance, but doesn't mean outsright neglected it... while mods is fail rushed ads... it might be decent if starched to 12 episode... i don't think i would enjoy nami if it's get any longer... sure it's unfair, but if we had 10 based ratings... that's all we had to do... Hey_Taka-tin_Hey said: You fucking gave it a 10 yourself... i don't really care about meme affecting my viewer experience... i enjoy jojo memes, the series, not soo much... i genuinly liking pingu and i am does sucker for this kind of shows to begin with.... |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
Kuma said: TKB928 said: You don't understand. The rating and popularity IS meme. This is why so many have warned others not to take the ratings so seriously. i genuinly liked it tho... i love shorts... agresive retsuko also strong contender being 10/10 from me too... i just realize it is that high after checking mal... I'm quite fond of the recent 1st episode myself, but the basic principles behind memes and what makes them become popular applies to everything else regarding popularity because at a basic level the mind processes them in the same way. psycho said: are people not allowed to rate their favourite anime or something Well no, because liking an anime more than someone else's anime will hurt that person's feelings, and the law ends where feelings begin. May reason rest in peace. |
Kuma said: Pullman said: yeah but that's exactly why you can't compare music videos or arthouse shorts to industry products. because 80% of them have no 'characters' or 'story to tell' because they're trying to do something else aimed at a different kind of audience. So according to your logic that puts them on the same level as Nami and under something utterly bad like MoD. That just doesn't make sense. Simply having a story and characters is worthless, it depends on how good something as it the things it does and if it doesn't even try to do story or characters, those aspects don't matter and what matters are things like how interesting was the concept, did the art look cool, was the animation enjoyable, the music, how did they interact etc... Judging something based on what it wasn't trying to do is unfair and if you think like that why would you be watching arthouse shorts or music videos in the first place? I don't get it. But if something does try to have a story and characters, like Mod, and ends up being the worst of the worst in those regards, it's a complete failure and not better than other stuff that fails at different things. A complete fail is a complete fail. And it's much harder to fail this hard with a story and characters than with some obscure, freaky stop-motion arthouse short in my opinion. There are tons of similarly bad shorts and music videos in the DB and Nami only stands out a bit because of the combination of stop-motion/live action and being weirdly sexual which both don't really make it any better or worse, just more shocking. But there's almost nothing that reaches the kind of badness of Skelter Heaven and MoD. Even other Idea Factory works like Generation of Chaos seem like decent shows compared to those two. so, it is worse soething to be fail than something that not even try? sure short give has far less chance, but doesn't mean outsright neglected it... while mods is fail rushed ads... it might be decent if starched to 12 episode... i don't think i would enjoy nami if it's get any longer... sure it's unfair, but if we had 10 based ratings... that's all we had to do... Hey_Taka-tin_Hey said: You fucking gave it a 10 yourself... i don't really care about meme affecting my viewer experience... i enjoy jojo memes, the series, not soo much... i genuinly liking pingu and i am does sucker for this kind of shows to begin with.... it's not 'not even trying'. That implies it is a prerequisite to have a story and everything that doesn't is a failure from the start, which might work for industry products but is a stupid and naive way to look at music videos or arthouse shorts. It's not inherently inferior to simply try and do something else. It's just different. It's like shitting on every anime that doesn't have romance, action, sci-fi, fantasy, slice of life, superpower, harem, ecchi, psychological and every other genre because it's 'not even trying' to be all the genres it isn't. It's stupid to judge shows like that based on what they're NOT trying to do in the first place and I think most people are aware of that when it comes to regular anime and different genres, demographics and narrative structures. So why is trying to be a conceptual arthouse short or a non-narrative music video inherently worse for 'not even trying' to do stuff that it is not interested in doing? Where is the difference to a romance anime 'not even trying' to have good action scenes? Why can't narrative and non-narrative animation not just be seen as two things trying to do different stuff without one being inherently superior/inferior to the other? Just like, idk, the sci-fi and the historical genre try to do different things and not judging the historical anime for not having interesting future technology and the sci-fi anime for not being historically accurate? |
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Pullman said: Kuma said: so, it is worse soething to be fail than something that not even try? sure short give has far less chance, but doesn't mean outsright neglected it... while mods is fail rushed ads... it might be decent if starched to 12 episode... i don't think i would enjoy nami if it's get any longer... sure it's unfair, but if we had 10 based ratings... that's all we had to do... i don't really care about meme affecting my viewer experience... i enjoy jojo memes, the series, not soo much... i genuinly liking pingu and i am does sucker for this kind of shows to begin with.... it's not 'not even trying'. That implies it is a prerequisite to have a story and everything that doesn't is a failure from the start, which might work for industry products but is a stupid and naive way to look at music videos or arthouse shorts. It's not inherently inferior to simply try and do something else. It's just different. It's like shitting on every anime that doesn't have romance, action, sci-fi, fantasy, slice of life, superpower, harem, ecchi, psychological and every other genre because it's 'not even trying' to be all the genres it isn't. It's stupid to judge shows like that based on what they're NOT trying to do in the first place and I think most people are aware of that when it comes to regular anime and different genres, demographics and narrative structures. So why is trying to be a conceptual arthouse short or a non-narrative music video inherently worse for 'not even trying' to do stuff that it is not interested in doing? Where is the difference to a romance anime 'not even trying' to have good action scenes? Why can't narrative and non-narrative animation not just be seen as two things trying to do different stuff without one being inherently superior/inferior to the other? Just like, idk, the sci-fi and the historical genre try to do different things and not judging the historical anime for not having interesting future technology and the sci-fi anime for not being historically accurate? lest be real... i am never stating that it has need to be compared one by one... i love short my self and definitely judgest something not by what it be definitely not a good things. i migdht worded my words badly... my point is not that they are automaticaly worse simply because it doesn't have character or plot, the problem is that nami really has nothing to offer, less than MoD and also still fail at that... swish swarimg to vag? what that even mean? is it good that make us feel wondered and un paid? sure MOD is bad as well... it fail to even give coherent story telling, explainable plot or character... but it's explainable because it's a fail rushed ads, but the potential still there to be some mediocore survival seires... while nami? what was that even mean? what they offer? they still fail at that... |
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| The difference is Pingu in the City is unironically great. |
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