Yooka-Laylee devs remove Youtuber JonTron from the game due to expressing support of racist and far-right beliefs.
| Was anybody gonna recognize Jon's voice anyway? Aren't they using the same voice style as in BK? Like the "blablablablabla" style? |
SzJ said: Narmy said: It doesn't really matter to me either way, since I was never interested in this game and I don't care about Jontron, but this is clearly a bad move just from a business standpoint. The number of people who wouldn't buy the game because Jontron has a few lines is going to be much less than the number of people who won't buy the game because the dev removed him from game due to his political views. I disagree. Maybe the game would sell better, but associating yourself with nazis might kill your funding and might discourage non-white people from applying to your company - which is a bad idea, if you want talented employees. So now even Jontron is a nazi? The word has no meaning anymore it seems. |
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SuperRed said: SzJ said: I feel like we are getting sort of off-topic here. I just meant to say that anime can draw in a lot of sexist people because of its depiction of women in some anime. And that (alongside with some other factors that @Fai mentioned) leads to a big number of anime fans defending neo nazis, such as Jontron. I don't think some people deliberately seek out anime in order to have their personal sexism feel validated, at least I hope not. There are plenty of people who are proud of that aspect. Hell you still have people who when confronted that female characters in the series they watch are written in shitty ways go "Well if you so want female characters go read some shoujo or romance - the stuff for giiiiiirls!"(as if well written or non-objectified female characters should be exclusive to that) I would not say that aspect helps but that aspect of anime shows surely fits their expectations(as does Japan's tendency to obsess and glorify nazi aesthetic). Japan has a very hard time moving past their sexism and racism rooted in their cultural and historical issues. And people like that like that to the point that whenever Anime steps out of that "comfort zone" people like that cause a shitstorm on how "all this diversity is ruining this!", like for example the infamous episode 8 of Shinsekai Yori. I wonder how shows like Utena would fare in such climate lol, considering it's feminist and LGBT focus. Even Yuri Kuma Arashi got insane amount of hatred from japanese viewers for "daring" to criticize Japanese homophobia. Sexism is in line with far-right/alt-right/nazi rhetoric and its extremely easy to frame female developers or female gamers coming into an industry as a "threat" to their precious "exclusive" hobby. The current radicalized gamer/animefan generation came into those hobbies at the times when they were still some "exclusive" thing only but few can view while "the society just won't understand it". Its easy to shape such people into viewing the fact that both video games and anime are actually mainstream-popular in a way that targets minorities. Hence the prominent strange argumentation on how "diversity and those silly ses jeeee wues are ruining muh video games". And it being cultural issue is a nonfactor. Something being "political" is just a blanket statement defense. Anyway. Race is just a social construct too, but those people feel even implying that all genders, races and sexualities are equal to be somehow "political". "Dont bring politics into ___" is equivalent of "Don't bring inclusive, tolerant or progressive ideas and only keep conservative and far right ideas in ___" Hargad said: Was anybody gonna recognize Jon's voice anyway? Aren't they using the same voice style as in BK? Like the "blablablablabla" style? That's literally the point one of the devs made when highlighting how stupid and manufactured this outrage is. |
AhenshihaelMar 25, 2017 10:15 PM
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| They were gonna get shit no matter what decision they made, so might as well dump the guy that brought it on them. |
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Fai said: Not gonna lie their uniforms were pretty sweet.as does Japan's tendency to obsess and glorify nazi aesthetic But why is it such a bad thing that Japanese think so? They're not obsessing over and glorifying nazi actions, just their looks. |
| @Fai I can totally agree with you on this. |
PeenusWeenusCaim said: SzJ said: Boycotts are not do or die. Not every attempted boycott is created with the express purpose of seeing a business fail. The "boycotters" in this scenario just want to make it apparent to the devs that they are not going to reach maximum profit and nothing triggers a business more than the loss of potential profit. I can't recall the last successful boycott of any video game. I honestly doubt this will be the first one to succeed. Also, "code monkeys" lmao. Why are gamers always such assholes? Do you even know what code monkey means? I feel like you overestimate the number of people who wouldn't buy the game, because the devs dared to oppose a neo-nazi. My point was that people have gotten upset over game devs in the past, but it never really mattered, so I don't see why these indie game devs should care. Also, yeah, I know what a code monkey is, but you calling indie game devs doesn't make them that. You don't even realize how much Math you need to be a good programmer. PeenusWeenusCaim said: The gaming medium and its respective community is arguably the most liberal medium in existence. the lack of self-awareness is astounding. When did liberal lose its meaning? When did people start calling themselves liberal to make actual progressives look extremists? Here, let me give you an example: by including token black characters No liberal would ever say this (I can explain why). You are delusional if you think you are a liberal. |
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SzJ said: No, I am not a liberal. I only adamantly believe the video game medium is the most liberal medium out there. How you deflected that entire point I made just to call me out as a liberal (when I'm not) is astounding.PeenusWeenusCaim said: Boycotts are not do or die. Not every attempted boycott is created with the express purpose of seeing a business fail. The "boycotters" in this scenario just want to make it apparent to the devs that they are not going to reach maximum profit and nothing triggers a business more than the loss of potential profit. Do you even know what code monkey means? I feel like you overestimate the number of people who wouldn't buy the game, because the devs dared to oppose a neo-nazi. My point was that people have gotten upset over game devs in the past, but it never really mattered, so I don't see why these indie game devs should care. Also, yeah, I know what a code monkey is, but you calling indie game devs doesn't make them that. You don't even realize how much Math you need to be a good programmer. PeenusWeenusCaim said: The gaming medium and its respective community is arguably the most liberal medium in existence. the lack of self-awareness is astounding. When did liberal lose its meaning? When did people start calling themselves liberal to make actual progressives look extremists? Here, let me give you an example: by including token black characters No liberal would ever say this (I can explain why). You are delusional if you think you are a liberal. Assuming my political stance and then attacking it without affirmation is one thing. Performing the prior and then committing a no true scotsman in an attempt to intellectually one-up yourself is whole different level. You are the cancerous mass killing politics and degrading society as we speak. I genuinely do not understand how you can live with yourself, embracing such a toxic method of thinking. I change my mind. I don't actually hate @Fai, I just said that to make a powerful opening hook to lean toward a more broad concept. I hate people like you in actuality. |
PeenusWeenusCaimMar 26, 2017 1:15 AM
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| >neo-nazi jesus christ does everyone who disagrees with you damn sjws have to be called that?  |
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PeenusWeenusCaim said: You are the cancerous mass killing politics and degrading society as we speak. PeenusWeenusCaim said: I change my mind. I don't actually hate @Fai, I just said that to make a powerful opening hook to lean toward a more broad concept. I hate people like you in actuality. lmao, are you... T R I G G E R E D? ahaha...but seriously, why are Freedom of Speech Warriors so thin-skinned? Narmy said: SzJ said: I disagree. Maybe the game would sell better, but associating yourself with nazis might kill your funding and might discourage non-white people from applying to your company - which is a bad idea, if you want talented employees. So now even Jontron is a nazi? The word has no meaning anymore it seems. No, he is not a nazi. He's a neo-nazi. And no, the word hasn't lost its meaning, Jontron said a lot of white nationalist talking point in his debate against Destiny and being white nationalist = being a neo-nazi. |
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SzJ said: the lack of self-awareness is astounding. When did liberal lose its meaning? When did people start calling themselves liberal to make actual progressives look extremists? Here, let me give you an example: by including token black characters No liberal would ever say this (I can explain why). You are delusional if you think you are a liberal. Its propaganda that helps radicalize others. The key extremists attacking people know full well what they are doing and what they are. But by playing the victim card or pretending to be rational ones they can normalize their behavior to others. The easiest way to claim there's no problem is to pretend the problem was already solved in a way normalizing the problematic behavior and hiding it.  Its not something new or unique to gaming media tho. The same was happening decades ago When MLK brought people to stand up for their rights. Most of the opposition felt that "blacks already have their rights" and that "their methods are horrible". Its the same rehashed racist/sexist rhetoric that has been used for decades. In reality gaming medium is absolutely toxic and exclusive in a lot of ways, with groups of people prone to harassment. Syrup- said: >neo-nazi jesus christ does everyone who disagrees with you damn sjws have to be called that? "won't someone please think of all the nazis. How dare you label them as nazis! You should b e more tolerant to their intolerance!"  |
AhenshihaelMar 26, 2017 1:51 AM
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SzJ said: When you get blown the fuck out so hard the only thing you can respond with is the modern meme equivalent of "umad".lmao, are you... T R I G G E R E D? ahaha...but seriously, why are Freedom of Speech Warriors so thin-skinned? It's almost like pottery. PeenusWeenusCaim said: You are the cancerous mass killing politics and degrading society as we speak. You're also assuming stances again. I actually understand that the Banjo Kazooie 2.0 team can remove people from their products if they want. Go be cancer in another board. |
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SzJ said: Are you retarded? Being white nationalist isn't the only thing it takes to be a (neo) nazi. It's the only thing it takes to be a white nationalist. white nationalist = being a neo-nazi. Wikipedia said: Neo-Nazism borrows elements from Nazi doctrine, including ultranationalism, racism, ableism, xenophobia, homophobia, antiziganism, antisemitism, and initiating the Fourth Reich. Holocaust denial is a common feature, as is incorporation of Nazi symbols and admiration of Adolf Hitler. Are you going to continue to argue about this? We can start dissecting the Destiny video he made, if you want to continue being wrong. Providing facts about black people in the defense of white people is not racism. It's the truth. Hello Fai. Yes, I noticed you. It's okay. You can stop posting now and go to bed. |
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| Yeah, gotta admit that I used a more liberal definition of neo-nazi. If you use the definition provided by wikipedia, then Jontron is not a neo-nazi. Syrup- said: Providing facts about black people in the defense of white people is not racism. It's the truth. Yeah, give me facts, give me science. But Jontron didn't use facts, he used fake statistics to justify his racism. |
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SzJ said: And really that's the heart of the problem now isn't it?a more liberal definition |
Wikipedia said: Neo-Nazism borrows elements from Nazi doctrine, including ultranationalism, racism, ableism, xenophobia, homophobia, antiziganism, antisemitism, and initiating the Fourth Reich. Holocaust denial is a common feature, as is incorporation of Nazi symbols and admiration of Adolf Hitler. And JonTron managed to tick all of those boxes in that stream. How great! He even wore nazi symbols "for comedy" before :) And yeah its great definition to be honest. Let's see: Syrup- said: Fai said: Are you by chance autistic? Aspergers? It would explain a lot. The way people feel about something has more to do with things than you think.That's literally the point one of the devs made when highlighting how stupid and manufactured this outrage is. Syrup- said: Providing facts about black people in the defense of white people is not racism. It's the truth.  Anyway, the Trump-esque usage of "FACTS" is always hilarious to me. SzJ said: Yeah, gotta admit that I used a more liberal definition of neo-nazi. If you use the definition provided by wikipedia, then Jontron is not a neo-nazi. Syrup- said: Providing facts about black people in the defense of white people is not racism. It's the truth. Yeah, give me facts, give me science. But Jontron didn't use facts, he used fake statistics to justify his racism. JonTron literally took the research data that indicates US court system being biased against people of color and interpreted it as "Blacks committing more crimes", then going to indicate that it is because of their genes "because africa is the same way now". Because according to him the courts CANT be biased against non-whites. Because "we got rid of discrimination y'all". The only other kind of statistics you will find on such things will come from either stormfront, breitbart or info wars. AKA the cesspool of racist nonsense that JonTron feeds himself. |
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SzJ said: Uh, I'm gonna unironically move the goalposts or whateverYeah, give me facts, give me science. But Jontron didn't use facts, he used fake statistics to justify his racism. how are those statistics fake please provide sources Hello Fai. Yes, I noticed you. It's okay. You can stop posting now and go to bed. |
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Syrup- said: SzJ said: Uh, I'm gonna unironically move the goalposts or whateverYeah, give me facts, give me science. But Jontron didn't use facts, he used fake statistics to justify his racism. how are those statistics fake please provide sources Hello Fai. Yes, I noticed you. It's okay. You can stop posting now and go to bed. He said rich black people commit more crimes than poor whites. He didn't give any sources for that and then Destiny couldn't find any either and called him out on it. Ironically, his followers are accusing others of doing the same thing Jontron did, i.e. not giving sources. The lack of self-awareness is still astounding. And yeah, those statistics are fake, simply because he just pulled it out of his stormfront/infowars ass, no |
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Fai said: Stop revising history. It's downright insulting and embarrassing to watch.Its propaganda that helps radicalize others. The key extremists attacking people know full well what they are doing and what they are. But by playing the victim card or pretending to be rational ones they can normalize their behavior to others. The easiest way to claim there's no problem is to pretend the problem was already solved in a way normalizing the problematic behavior and hiding it. Its not something new or unique to gaming media tho. The same was happening decades ago When MLK brought people to stand up for their rights. Most of the opposition felt that "blacks already have their rights" and that "their methods are horrible". Its the same rehashed racist/sexist rhetoric that has been used for decades. In reality gaming medium is absolutely toxic and exclusive in a lot of ways, with groups of people prone to harassment. White people back then didn't believe "blacks already have their rights". Many of them genuinely believed they were superior to black people. And many white people felt like their rights were of more importance than black people. The supposed "bigotry" of today is nothing like the bigotry and vile racism back then. Stop downplaying it to make a point that won't work. If you're seriously trying to draw parallels between this (american society regarding race in the 60s)  and this (the fighting game community)  kindly fuck off to your boogeyman delusions. |
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SzJ said: If I wanted to move the goalposts, I wouldn't have announced it in such a honest way. I was only calling that out because I knew what I said could be perceived as what you said, but I was genuinely curious where those statistics could be called fake.Ironically, his followers are accusing others of doing the same thing Jontron did, i.e. not giving sources. The lack of self-awareness is still astounding. This is the one I see people claiming JonTron used to prove these statistics.  Oh my god so fake no sources https://www.uaa.alaska.edu/academics/college-of-health/departments/justice-center/alaska-justice-forum/16/4winter2000/b_nativevic.cshtml Took me like, three clicks to find. Fishing through recent government statistics published as recently as this month by credible sources such as the Bureau of Justice, proves that his claims are actually correct. According to Obamacare Poverty starts at around $11,000 as of 2017. Given that those statistics are from the mid-90s, we could lower the bar to around $10,000 or comfortably to get an idea of what poverty was back then. For every extra person in the family, you add $3000 to the threshold. Therefore, a family of three would need $16000 to survive, and a family of four $19000. The lower two echelons of those graphs could be reasonably added together to form 135 crimes by poor white people versus over 150 crimes committed by wealthy black people. BTFO by a graph created to prove Native Americans commit more crimes than other nationalities. White nationalism my arse. |
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Fai said: And what does this have to do with the gaming community?https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/04/19/black-lives-matters-and-americas-long-history-of-resisting-civil-rights-protesters/ I rest my case. :^) You never had a case to begin with. |
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Syrup- said: SzJ said: If I wanted to move the goalposts, I wouldn't have announced it in such a honest way. I was only calling that out because I knew what I said could be perceived as what you said, but I was genuinely curious where those statistics could be called fake.Ironically, his followers are accusing others of doing the same thing Jontron did, i.e. not giving sources. The lack of self-awareness is still astounding. This is the one I see people claiming JonTron used to prove these statistics. Oh my god so fake no sources https://www.uaa.alaska.edu/academics/college-of-health/departments/justice-center/alaska-justice-forum/16/4winter2000/b_nativevic.cshtml Took me like, three clicks to find. Fishing through recent government statistics published as recently as this month by credible sources such as the Bureau of Justice, proves that his claims are actually correct. According to Obamacare Poverty starts at around $11,000 as of 2017. Given that those statistics are from the mid-90s, we could lower the bar to around $10,000 or comfortably to get an idea of what poverty was back then. For every extra person in the family, you add $3000 to the threshold. Therefore, a family of three would need $16000 to survive, and a family of four $19000. The lower two echelons of those graphs could be reasonably added together to form 135 crimes by poor white people versus over 150 crimes committed by wealthy black people. BTFO by a graph created to prove Native Americans commit more crimes than other nationalities. White nationalism my arse. Where are you getting the over 150? Honestly, can't see that anywhere. In the picture you showed, it says 50. Also, making over $40k makes you middle class, not wealthy, so those stats are irrelevant - though they do prove my point. |
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SzJ said: Where are you getting the over 150? Honestly, can't see that anywhere. In the picture you showed, it says 50. Also, making over $40k makes you middle class, not wealthy, so those stats are irrelevant - though they do prove my point. I've dropped like 2-3 hours looking for the actual source of the statistics you spoke of earlier, and found dead ends everywhere. The tweets and videos related to the situation are deleted, and no matter what thread I follow, I can not get any sources for the originally tweeted 2006 table that actually "proved" this but given the cheating I've seen done by the defenders in all the threads, that image is probably from a table of victimizations, or completely false altogether. I'm actually pretty sick of looking into this more, and I never really cared about JonTron much in the first place. This is extremely irrelevant though, because my original point was to make it clear that white nationalism does not mean that you're a nazi. Also from what I've seen, JonTron doesn't hate minorities, he just does not want to become a minority in his own country. I do not want to argue about at what point an immigrant becomes a true american, because it's another retarded social construct I'll never understand. To me, you will always be an immigrant in Canada or the United States if you are not English, Scottish, Irish or French. I don't think that's a wrong belief either, so if you wanna call me a nazi go ahead. edit: erroneous opening sentence |
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FontSize72LOL said: SuperRed said: Publically defending a white nationalist tweet on a mainstream social site isn't an "opinion held in private". There is nothing inherently wrong about white nationalism. Every other ethnicity is allowed to have centric beliefs except for white people, it seems. I honestly am not a white nationalist, I don't really care, but people using "White Nationalist" like its the worst thing ever, but wouldn't call out any other ethnicity for doing the same thing is kind of, eck. I guess let me re-phrase this. As long as every other ethnicity has some form of ethno-nationalism, there is either: A) Nothing wrong with White Nationalism B) Everything wrong with every Nationalism. You cant condemn one, but allow the rest. If we take your argument at purely face value, your logic is pretty sound, however, the reality of the matter and how society actually works shows it's not that simple. http://blog.talkingphilosophy.com/?p=10014 ^This page explains it quite well. |
| Jon said what the majority of Americans feel. Remember who won in November. Jon did nothing wrong but I really don't care the voices sound stupid anyway. |
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Syrup- said: It was actually pretty impressive though. I assumed the statistic didn't exist.I'm actually pretty sick of looking into this more, and I never really cared about JonTron much in the first place. |
Shadowtheking said: Remember who won in November. . The nazi tangerine won due to electoral college. he did not get the popular vote. Which means majority did NOT vote for him. And his ratings keep falling. Even his own party, as insane as they are, does not like or support him. The only reason he has presidency is due to fluke that is bad voting system in USA. And Russia interference. |
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Fai said: Shadowtheking said: Remember who won in November. . The nazi tangerine won due to electoral college. he did not get the popular vote. Which means majority did NOT vote for him. And his ratings keep falling. Cry more. You guys lost by a landslide. |
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Fai said: Man, we already have passed 3 months in this new year. Can you please shut the fuck up with those excuses? And Russia interference. These kinds of topics suit better in CE cancer rather than the Gaming sub-forum. Besides, you guys have a lot of time in hand arguing whether an e-celeb is a neo-nazi or not. He was just removed from the VA, no big deal. Both the parties have a mutual agreement and wish to not escalate this petty issue. |
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AlexSNES said: It really saddens me to see JonTron say such stupid things. I still enjoy watching his videos and the older GameGrumps episodes that he's in. I'm really excited for the game despite this news. I need my Banjo-Kazooie fix. How would you deem it stupid if that is what he believes? His viewpoint? Please enlighten me... Did he do some stupid stuff like the PewDiePie stuff? |
Hilary won the popular vote. I am not sure what kind of math magic you would use it to turn it into "trump winning by a landslide". Nazi Tangerine LOST by a landslide. By a landslide equal three million people. No manner of brain gymnastics is going to change that. Nobody gave a shit about his innauguration, nobody, not even his own party, gives a shit about his plans, his ratings keep plummeting(he is officially less liked even the likeable country idiot Bush was), he keeps making a fool out of himself in public and the America and the whole world can't wait to get rid of him. But it makes sense that a Tangerine-Supporter would advocate for white supremacist. Thanks for making things clear. NOw that's trying to censor something you don't like. Sure I will shut up. Once all the investigations end. And so far its not looking so good for the Nazi Tangerine considering his Russian Mafia ties even before election. Having a "viewpoint" of a white supremacist who literally advocates for ethnic cleansing IS stupid. JonTron said heinous things that are impossible to misinterpret and believes ins some of the most revolting bullshit. Most of which is outright lies with no foundation of truth. Not to mention when he was asked to defend his view he could not do anything but cackle and deflect like a child because there's no scientific data or any sort of logic to support his racist claims. That is DEFINITION of being stupid. Its just a step below the nuttsos who believe in Tangerine being wiretapped via a microwave. Its especially stupid considering JonTron is of Iranian descent so he is essentially an Uncle Tom/Uncle Ruckus to his own past and does not realize that "being one of the good ones" won't stop the racists from coming for him once they get what they want and grab ahold of power. |
AhenshihaelMar 26, 2017 11:18 AM
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| @Fai I see now, so he said some bs. Then cried like a child when asked for further evaluation of his beliefs... Ohh... Internet has been getting dangerous nowadays... |
Fai said: Trump is a scumbag but you guys are just crybabies chanting the same nonsense everyday like it's a big revelation. Best case scenario, you impeach him. But you also face the worst case scenario aka Mike Pence.NOw that's trying to censor something you don't like. Sure I will shut up. Once all the investigations end. And so far its not looking so good for the Nazi Tangerine considering his Russian Mafia ties even before election. |
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_Ako_ said: I see now, so he said some bs. Then cried like a child when asked for further evaluation of his beliefs... And then proceeded to double down on his beliefs while accepting thanks and applause from literal well known white supremacists. Yes. Despite being proven WRONG on multiple accounts all he took from it is that the evil "fake news people" tried to "catch him". Pewdiepie made insensitive and unfunny joke. JonTron genuinely believes most of that shit. As a result of his behavior Playtonic removed his voicework from Yooka-Laylee(he was invited to record a few sound lines for a character for free because he was a fan of Banjo Kazooie) to avoid being associated with racist views and white supremacists. Alas that now has led towards a harassment campaign by actual white supremacists, which so far peeps at Playtonic are dealing with a sense of style and sass as always, thankfully. |
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Fai said: _Ako_ said: I see now, so he said some bs. Then cried like a child when asked for further evaluation of his beliefs... And then proceeded to double down on his beliefs while accepting thanks and applause from literal well known white supremacists. Yes. Despite being proven WRONG on multiple accounts all he took from it that the evil "fake news people" tried to "catch him". I see now... All he needs to do is ask a psychologist and have a meds for delusional escapist... Ohhh, no... he wouldn't do that because fake news people might still attack him... His all out of choices... Only one method to escape from this pinch... That is... To escape life... |
| 1. I don't support trump the only 2 reasons I voted for him 1. The salt and 2. He's a guy. Would've voted Bernie but democratic party fucked up thinking #I'mwithher would work. 2. Where did I advocate for him? He's not wrong because it's an OPINION. I personally don't give two fucks about it. He can say anything he wants and the company can do what they want unless it says otherwise in his contract. I'm not giving playtonic much hate because they ether keep him and get hate or remove him and get hate. Obviously removing got them more hate but it's business. Somehow even though I kinda agree with you you'll spin this. |
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| Guys seriously take your politics bullshit to the current events section. |
Thrashinuva said: Guys seriously take your politics bullshit to the current events section. This whole topic is political because what Jon said was politics I don't know what you were expecting. Every site is talking about this the exact same way we are. |
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Shadowtheking said: Then take it to the current events section.Thrashinuva said: Guys seriously take your politics bullshit to the current events section. This whole topic is political because what Jon said was politics I don't know what you were expecting. Every site is talking about this the exact same way we are. |
| I completely understand their decision, personally - they simply don't want to be associated with him and/or his beliefs. From a company's standpoint it's the logical option. |
| If I remeber well Playtonic is a company with a lot of diversity within it. So I understand that they distanced themselves with someone racist (or with a lot of racist viewpoints) as JonTron. It's true than in a professional world you can't always choose with whom you are going to work, but if in this case they can, they have the option to cut ties with JonTron. Is unprofessional and they are going to suffer some backlash, but I think they prefer that. |
Fai said: Look at you, judging people by the color of their skin.Nazi Tangerine Thrashinuva said: Syrup- said: It was actually pretty impressive though. I assumed the statistic didn't exist.I'm actually pretty sick of looking into this more, and I never really cared about JonTron much in the first place. Well it effectively doesn't, and that's what bothers me the most. I gave JonTron the benefit of the doubt and looked for it for several hours. I assume this uh, Chris Ray Maldonaldo guy made them up on the spot in order to stir up shit. That's the only logical conclusion I can take aside from putting on a tinfoil hat and saying that they "hid the facts". I looked pretty much everywhere. Tweets, twitter archives, reddit and the archives, archived /pol/ threads, left wing news articles sourcing videos on it, comment sections, published reports by the Bureau of Justice, published papers from the FBI, university documents-- none of these places could point me to any sort of source for it. Not even reverse searching the image did much. The statistic is indeterminable, therefore it is foolish to argue about whether or not it's true. I honestly wanted him to be correct, but I guess I should shut up before I say anything Big Brother doesn't like. |
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SilverDio said: If I remeber well Playtonic is a company with a lot of diversity within it. So I understand that they distanced themselves with someone racist (or with a lot of racist viewpoints) as JonTron. It's true than in a professional world you can't always choose with whom you are going to work, but if in this case they can, they have the option to cut ties with JonTron. Is unprofessional and they are going to suffer some backlash, but I think they prefer that. Oh yeah, they are so diverse. :^) http://www.playtonicgames.com/team/ |
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bereta002 said: This is the most bigoted statement in this entire topic, including the subject at hand.Good they removed him from the game. This game is for people who miss Banjo-Kazooie and not for people with far right agendas. |
bereta002 said: FontSize72LOL said: I guess the real question is, how many of their consumers ACTUALLY care about Jontrons viewponts to the point where they would lose the sale on their product for him having such a minor role? Answer: Probably none. To be honest, The controversy of actually removing him from the product is probably more damaging to their image than anything Jontron actually said. Basically removing him from their product is them siding with SJWs. SJWs aren't the most popular thing this day and age, even though people who identify as such might not see it that way. Afaik, this is something that was basically orchestrated by NeoGaff, which anyone familiar with that site knows that its cancer, and the people there are worse than your average /v/tard. The fact that an off-colour comment is enough to jeprodize your career is honestly frightening. Especially in this age where your privacy is being stripped away slowly, day by day. Call me dramatic, but I think the opinions people hold in private should have no bearing on how you're percieved at work. As long as you are professional at the workplace, and what you're doing in private isn't criminal, it shouldn't even matter. I know what Jontron said was basically public debate, but companies already look at stuff like facebook, and its a real possibility they'll be able to get ahold of your browsing history in some places. Eventually there will be enough data mined on you that your opinions on various things will be apparent whether you're especially vocal about them or not. When I saw this topic I predicted either someone posting a whining butthurt rant about SJW or people calling it "censorhip", "lack of free of speech" and stuff. I was right. Good they removed him from the game. This game is for people who miss Banjo-Kazooie and not for people with far right agendas. Its not as much about "Free Speech" as it is about "Diversity in Idea's", probably the only thing with the word "Diversity" in it, that those on the Far-left hate more than Neo-Nazi's. |
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