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Dec 30, 2016 6:44 AM

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mikebz45 said:
I think they were intentionally mixing Owl and Eren to intentionally confuse us. It seemed that it was a bit troublesome for Eren to keep focused on the present without dipping into the past a bit. I believe he is confusing his own and Owl's memories.


Except you then have the very first chapter. It's not so simple.
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Darklight0303 said:
mikebz45 said:
I think they were intentionally mixing Owl and Eren to intentionally confuse us. It seemed that it was a bit troublesome for Eren to keep focused on the present without dipping into the past a bit. I believe he is confusing his own and Owl's memories.


Except you then have the very first chapter. It's not so simple.


Yeah, I went back and read the first chapter... and then some after I posted that. I agree
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Last page had me SHOOK. Those translations were terrible.

So what i grasped is

Kruger mentions that to protect Armin and Mikasa, he must fulfill the mission which is having the royal blood in him when he turns into a titan?

Somehow Kruger is able to access Eren's memories/the future as he mentions Armin and Mikasa who aren't even born yet.

Acc to the previous chapter, there are paths that connect the titans through memories which probably transcend timelines. That's kinda trippy and Idk if I like where this is going

As Someone above me pointed out the OP scene of the work. Ep 1 of attack on titan had a scene where Eren got a vision of the wall being destroyed,mom getting eaten,the smiling titan etc. Then Eren has a vision of Dina and realised who she was. He never met her in person coz duh,wasn’t warn then but he saw her through another’s eyes.

I'm continuallly impressed how Hajime links everything to a past chapter leaving us mindblown.
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Chapter 1's title is confusing for me.
"to you, in 2000 years"
so did Eren memories go through 2000 years ago or 2000 years in the future? I don't understand.

if he was in the past, what if Eren was the First King?
If he was in the future, so Ymir's people still exist until 2000 years later?

Can't wait for all of this being answered.
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So apparently the only reason how Eren awakened the dormant coordinate power for that one moment was because when Eren punched that titan (ch.50) he made direct contact with Dina Fritz, who is of royal blood. Maybe the reason why Eren wasn't possessed by King Fritz's will then and there is because he himself isn't of royal blood.

So what happens if Eren comes into contact with Historia and he again tries the coordinate? Will the coordinate even activate? Or will King Fritz possess and kill Historia (and/or Eren) instead?
Dec 30, 2016 8:56 AM
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I find your posts helpful. That picture gave me a mindblow.

My hypothesis:

I'm not really sure if the 'current' Eren would live past 8 years but "if he was in the future" then it's probably the successor of 'Attack Titan' 2000 years to the future. The 'current' Eren always regretted not saving Armin and Mikasa and so the 'future' Eren shared his memory to the predecessors of 'Attack Titan' (which includes Eren Kruger alias Owl) in order to change their fate.

Just my guess.
Dec 30, 2016 9:36 AM

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Finally back to the present. I can't wait for the translations.

Isn't this the titan that was in the first OVA?




I knew I already saw it, looking very familiar. You right.

Anyway, I am really excited for next chapter (well, as always) but next time there will be sh*tstorm all over the internet. There will happen some shipping thing. Or you thinks Eren want to eat Historia?
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Buthainaa said:
Okay but what was that ending? Why did he suddenly mention Misaka and Armin?? Is the memory of "the attack on titan" connected from the past to the future? Or was Eren just imagine stuff and manipulated his memory? I have so many questions


This was the most puzzling thing to me as well. I get that touching Dina's hand allowed Eren to manipulate the titans (which is kinda farfetched imo) but the other "original titan" bearer knowing about Mikasa and Armin??? Wtf? Is reincarnation part of this story? Or is it that the "original titan" memories are connected to all bearers, past AND future?
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SakuraNani said:
Buthainaa said:
Okay but what was that ending? Why did he suddenly mention Misaka and Armin?? Is the memory of "the attack on titan" connected from the past to the future? Or was Eren just imagine stuff and manipulated his memory? I have so many questions


This was the most puzzling thing to me as well. I get that touching Dina's hand allowed Eren to manipulate the titans (which is kinda farfetched imo) but the other "original titan" bearer knowing about Mikasa and Armin??? Wtf? Is reincarnation part of this story? Or is it that the "original titan" memories are connected to all bearers, past AND future?


Actually that still doesn't explain Eren's dream. WHich again gets even more confusing since at the time of the dream Eren was not a shifter yet. So why would he have a dream from the future when Mikasa's hair was shorter. There's something bigger at play here.
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I always though that that chapter 1 message is something about our future, like he adress readers, that after 2000 years, humanity will live inside of walls and mindless titans would run over the country everywhere, but now its look more like time loop theory. Even thou I dont particulary like either.

But guys, guys what if, just what if, Isayama sensei is actually foreshadowing future and he is actually one of them (he looks exaxtly like Ymir) and he write this to some of us because one of us eventualy reincarnate in future to Eren and he is trying to save humanity... or Eldians, or just his childhoodfriends from previous timeloop? (note: 420 on second part of this post)
Dec 30, 2016 12:53 PM

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I'm honestly really confused. I hope a better translation will come soon.
There is one you can find it here: imgur[dot]com/a/PAj9A

This is much better. Thank you!
Dec 30, 2016 2:42 PM

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Nice chapter!

So it turns out Ymir really was just a nobody huh...but I don't buy it. If she was some random fake goddess then why did Isayama say she holds the key to the story?

Also, Reiner's presence+Hange's words made me suspicious. I'm pretty sure there's a hidden message in Ymir's letter somewhere. I also fear that Hange might turn against Eren and co. in some way. She was a bit hostile towards them this chapter.

Historia looked pretty good. She looks much more mature now.

Also, did anyone notice that Ymir and Reiner were inside a wooden house with only a candle on the table (not really high tech), but Reiner wore jeans that looked modern? I've been theorizing for a while now that the warrior village actually exists (it's not an euphemism for Marley) and that's where Ymir is right now. When we saw flashbacks from Annie, we saw her training with her father around a small house in somewhere. It could be the same house or similar to where Reiner and Ymir were.
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what if that Owl guy is actually Erwin who's been traveling through time and space and that's why Owl knows about Armin and Mikasa? they're pretty similar to each other and after all of those crazy chapters I can believe in everything now XD <pls bring erwin back>
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Before the ending I felt like I was starting to understand something but now I've lost it. I know I can kill
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It better not be any time traveling bullshit
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Dec 30, 2016 7:23 PM

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Zees said:
Nice chapter!

So it turns out Ymir really was just a nobody huh...but I don't buy it. If she was some random fake goddess then why did Isayama say she holds the key to the story?

The fact that two people whose name are Ymir. One is nobody and One is "the ancestor", so probably we just got trolled by Lord Isayama
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The story is becoming more convoluted.
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nearbaskara said:
Zees said:
Nice chapter!

So it turns out Ymir really was just a nobody huh...but I don't buy it. If she was some random fake goddess then why did Isayama say she holds the key to the story?

The fact that two people whose name are Ymir. One is nobody and One is "the ancestor", so probably we just got trolled by Lord Isayama


Exactly... If we are talking about time loops in here its probably that Ymir will last to the end of the series and will become this so called "goddess" that shared the titans powers with the Eldians...
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nearbaskara said:
Zees said:
Nice chapter!

So it turns out Ymir really was just a nobody huh...but I don't buy it. If she was some random fake goddess then why did Isayama say she holds the key to the story?

The fact that two people whose name are Ymir. One is nobody and One is "the ancestor", so probably we just got trolled by Lord Isayama
If I remember correctly Isayama was referring to our freckled Ymir when he said that but I wouldn't be surprised if he was trolling us lol
Jan 1, 2017 8:29 PM

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Yep yep, more confirmation that Eren saw the future in the first episode.

I knew it since the anime, it made it more evidently.
Jan 1, 2017 10:49 PM

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About Ymir, I got trolled by Isayama :lool
I thought she was an important character for the plot, but actually not really. It shocked my human side :lel. She was just a poor child with no home or family, and being adopted by Ymir's people to maintained their belief. They used her as a fake figure of Ymir to gain attention of some kind of revolution in Eldia.
So the nazi culture has been there for over 50 years, what the hell Marlin.

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My theory is that Maybe Eren when for example a bad end happened he will travel in time to fix it but with memory lost with evidence in this chapter When the owl said "If you can't do that everything will happen again the same story, the same mistake and Mikasa and Armin if you want to save them all fullfil your mission in the period of the Owl before that he failed that's why he became the Owl. Then in before Eren period he failed again that's why he is crying in the 1st chapter and said why is your hair long Mikasa? because Eren knew that Mikasa will eventually have a short hair because she will cut it.

And also with the notes on the end of chapter They keep fighting an endless battle then I remember this anime way back called buddy complex maybe it's identical to this anime if you watch this maybe what is happening to Eren is similarly what happened to Hina on Buddy Complex.


damn bro, now that you mentioned it. it makes a lot of sense in chapter 1

1 page explains it all, MIND_BLOWN


WOAH!!

but still I'm confused about grisha's mission or in this page

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nearbaskara said:
About Ymir, I got trolled by Isayama :lool
I thought she was an important character for the plot, but actually not really. It shocked my human side :lel. She was just a poor child with no home or family, and being adopted by Ymir's people to maintained their belief. They used her as a fake figure of Ymir to gain attention of some kind of revolution in Eldia.
So the nazi culture has been there for over 50 years, what the hell Marlin.



damn bro, now that you mentioned it. it makes a lot of sense in chapter 1

1 page explains it all, MIND_BLOWN


WOAH!!

but still I'm confused about grisha's mission or in this page




http://www3.mangafreak.net/Read1_Shingeki_No_Kyojin_81_5
http://www3.mangafreak.net/Read1_Shingeki_No_Kyojin_81_6#gohere

it seem to me, like the same thing that is happening now in the story, has happen in previous past, and its basically a never ending cycle, so basically Kruger is trying to stop this cycle? I'm not sure, this is just a guess.
Jan 2, 2017 12:07 AM

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http://www3.mangafreak.net/Read1_Shingeki_No_Kyojin_81_5
http://www3.mangafreak.net/Read1_Shingeki_No_Kyojin_81_6#gohere

it seem to me, like the same thing that is happening now in the story, has happen in previous past, and its basically a never ending cycle, so basically Kruger is trying to stop this cycle? I'm not sure, this is just a guess.


Yeah, but like swordsaint said. "probably" Eren already experienced things that happened on chapter 1 till now.

I'm not just sure what owl really mean on loving his wife,son & people on the wall is the key so the same story or mistake will happen again and again.
Jan 2, 2017 4:51 AM

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Mindblown and Confused, it feels like the time leap of memories of Eren like Okabe in Steins;Gate, so he already experience it, but he's mind was just puzzled and can't remember it clearly. But why its "To you in 2000 years", what does it meant, a message for eren in year 2000 or a message for Eren to the 2000th year time leap xD. I'm damn hype for the next chapters.
Jan 2, 2017 9:04 PM
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maybe its a time loop where all died at the end,, i remember isayama said they all died, then the fans went berserk then he change his mind haha,,, so maybe he wakes up in the end and this time he remember his very looooong dream
Jan 2, 2017 11:36 PM

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Looks like some time manipulation happening, I thought we've reached the point of revealing all the mysteries but more just popping up.
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Mindblown and Confused, it feels like the time leap of memories of Eren like Okabe in Steins;Gate, so he already experience it, but he's mind was just puzzled and can't remember it clearly. But why its "To you in 2000 years", what does it meant, a message for eren in year 2000 or a message for Eren to the 2000th year time leap xD. I'm damn hype for the next chapters.


As far as I can remember, the year that Eren is in now, is not even in the year 1000 right? On chapter 1, the number '845' indicates the year that the colossal titan destroyed the wall. Then on chapter 2, they time skipped to 5 years later, and Isayama also showed a panel indicating that it was the year 850. So, if I were to speculate, it means that this whole story is being told for the 'you' in 2000 years? But why? and who?

And in chapter 2, when Mikasa was escaping from the titans, she turned back and there was a thought bubble that said 'this again'. Maybe she knew? I don't know what she meant by 'this again'. If she meant by losing her family members again, why did the panel show the picture of people escaping and not a picture of the destroyed home?

The story is getting so confusing but I hope Isayama will be able to explain to us with a satisfied reason. I don't mind a time loop theme being thrown inside as long as is good. Is gonna be mind-blowing.
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Still told us nothing of what Ymir is doing sigh. Has Historia just been given the death flag. Also what the hell is going on with the memories being changed?........
Yeah where did Mikasa and Armin come from in his Dad's memory?
Jan 3, 2017 1:19 PM
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Really interesting to see more of Ymir's past this chapter. In particular, the part where she addressed to Historia in that letter conveyed her honesty.

Now I wonder if Eren can even handle the power of the original Titan assuming if he can get his hands on it. Taking is one thing, mastering is another.
He does have the power of the first titan. It's the coordinate.
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what is that truce?

and wtf is the ending, the owl said the name of Armin and Mikasa as though he knows them on some other timeline lol
He doesn't know them, that's why he asks whose memories are these
Jan 3, 2017 1:36 PM
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Maybe this story is message from Eren to the Attack Titan in the Year 2845.
Jan 3, 2017 4:36 PM

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SNK is becoming increasingly complicated but equally more interesting also!

One thing from this chapter I couldn't help but pick up on is the fact that the total surviving members of the Survey Corps now just so happens to equal the number of legendary titans of old, 9. This might prove to be just of symbolic significance, but with very wild speculation it could also indicate a more direct relationship between the two, for instance a potential indicator that they are the destined to be the 9 Titan Shifters of the current generation.
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So eren is going to eat zeke to get royal blood?
But I've a question, if Eren's dad ate some royal members he got their blood, then Eren ate his dad. It's impossible he got royal blood too to use Coordinate power? And if he simply used that power in ch 50 because he was defending mikasa since "save mikasa and armin is a mission" (ch 89) ?
Jan 5, 2017 10:27 AM

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ahhh man...the chapter 1 explains it all...eren is going to wake up again....man i am disappointed! i always thought of shingeki no kyojin as an action anime rather than some time loop crap....
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You're right guys, chapter 1 have a whole new meaning now stein gate vibes!
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SNK is becoming increasingly complicated but equally more interesting also!

One thing from this chapter I couldn't help but pick up on is the fact that the total surviving members of the Survey Corps now just so happens to equal the number of legendary titans of old, 9. This might prove to be just of symbolic significance, but with very wild speculation it could also indicate a more direct relationship between the two, for instance a potential indicator that they are the destined to be the 9 Titan Shifters of the current generation.


Your theory won't work because Eren holds within him 2 titan powers. The owl titan power and then the king titan power.
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ahhh man...the chapter 1 explains it all...eren is going to wake up again....man i am disappointed! i always thought of shingeki no kyojin as an action anime rather than some time loop crap....


have you every read any intelligent stories? lol
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Just when we thought we finally figure out the story. The author drop another unpredictable turn of events.
Jan 8, 2017 1:58 PM

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Isayama posted a correction regarding a part of Eren's monologue on his blog

Translations here: http://fuku-shuu.tumblr.com/post/155584573992/isayama-hajime-posts-important-correction-to
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Damn those were some awful dialogues.
I guess the clairvoyant powers got reintroduced after 89 chapters.
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Wait, was that a hint that the king titan also has memories of future people with the king's power?


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Isayama posted a correction regarding a part of Eren's monologue on his blog

Translations here: http://fuku-shuu.tumblr.com/post/155584573992/isayama-hajime-posts-important-correction-to


So, Historia needs to become a Titan and eat a Shifter in order to activate the Coordinate from Eren, rather than Eren eating a royal blood member

OH GOD! PLEASE! NOT ANNIE! EVERYONE BUT ANNIE! Armin, Ymir and even f*cking Zeke are available, if Isayama makes Annie get out of the cristal just to be eaten, this manga will be over for me jajaja T_T
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Whatever happens after reading that last page, Isayama just carved a path to possibly make the series longer, even after revealing most of the mysteries.

Do shifters possess the ability to access the memories of past and future shifters of their titans? And even if they did, how would that explain a young Eren having nightmares about the future? Would that imply that the whole lives of to-be shifters can be accessed (even before turning into a shifter), even if it's their own lives? Then again, what do we really know about Eren's dream? The contents might not reach to where the story is at right now, so he might be crying for the loss of his mother, father, and other friends/companions.

We might not need to worry about a time loop plot, because of that. It might simply mean an added mystery to the story now that nearly all questions have been answered. The title of the first chapter may make a reference that everything that is being told from the first chapter onwards, is recorded history, something that should be remembered even 2000 years later (so that history doesn't repeat itself, if the titan power is still active?).

Anyway, enough speculations, I just wanna read the next chapter asap :x
Jan 9, 2017 2:02 AM
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the last panel gives me a goosebump !!
will try reread
Jan 9, 2017 4:24 AM

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Wow he did create a lot more mysteries all of a sudden. I was imagining things slowly falling into place with the reveal of Grisha's memories and all, but seems like it gets a bit more confusing now. I really wonder where this is going, looking forward to the next chapter!

Also, now I'm somehow imagining the last chapter of this manga being titled "To you, 2000 years in the past".
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keragamming said:
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WOAH!!

but still I'm confused about grisha's mission or in this page




http://www3.mangafreak.net/Read1_Shingeki_No_Kyojin_81_5
http://www3.mangafreak.net/Read1_Shingeki_No_Kyojin_81_6#gohere

it seem to me, like the same thing that is happening now in the story, has happen in previous past, and its basically a never ending cycle, so basically Kruger is trying to stop this cycle? I'm not sure, this is just a guess.




this manga is too much
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so after re-reading the chapter + the correction... Historia is 90% in danger, right o_O???
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so after re-reading the chapter + the correction... Historia is 90% in danger, right o_O???


Hmm, maybe there is another solution, that "Dinah Fritz" who is one of the royal family too, but she is just a titan now, so they would need to make her human again to eat her one again?
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The artstyle is a bit meh this chapter.
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