Should people be more mindful of what may be offensive to others, or should those who are offended grow a thicker skin?
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| Being nice is universal, peoples triggers aren't. People can predict that general politeness will go over well but its impossible to censor yourself from a potential avalanche of "Triggers" people now a days have. Being nice is not enough anymore and its impossible to keep up with the "Im offended" crowds growing offenses so right now people should stop being overly emotional manipulative controllers its not even a thing about thick skin they're not really deep down offended its just something they can use to control other people. The best cure is normal people should stop caring that other people are offended so much. People just need a dose of common sense "All gays must be killed" is obviously a dick thing to say and believe but "Respect muh pronouns as none binary or I'll call the cops" is equally dumb and a dick thing to say. People who argue you need to be feminist to be a good person are idiots. No better than the religious who argue they need their religion to keep from raping or killing people. You need an ideological cult to stop you doing wrong then you're the problem not everyone else. |
SpooksNov 3, 2016 5:07 PM
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| I think there should be a balance. There are certainly people who get offended ridiculously easily, and that needs to be fixed somehow (maybe by exposing them to it until they learn to get over it), but there are also people with no tact or filter whatsoever (I think a lot of them might need therapy). A mixture of both, I think. It's easy to imagine a "normal person's" reaction to something, or imagine what a "normal person" might say, because the "average" level of tact and tolerance is pretty recognizable to anyone without a disorder of some kind. If everyone were to try to emulate that tact and tolerance, I think it would become a much more tolerant and accepting society in general, with less bullshit to put up with because of oversensitive idiots and less annoyance to deal with because of under-sensitive idiots. |
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| Being offended over every little thing is silly but deliberately being an asshole to someone is wrong. |
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| @SuperRed lie whaaat give an example people nowadays get offended by anything , just see what happened in Halloween some: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1565459 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1565555 only WW3 can fix this situation . |
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DrGeroCreation said: Being offended over every little thing is silly but deliberately being an asshole to someone is wrong. I'm not talking about that, I mean like do people who make gay or autism jokes or who write stereotypes in their stories should avoid doing so in order to not displease the people who belong to that demographic, even if the intention isn't to offend? |
| People do, in general, need to grow a thicker skin, but at the same time I despise the anti-PC crowd that embraces being offensive, rude, uncouth, and toxic, just to be contrarian and proving their point. There needs to be a balance. We should use common sense to determine what may or may not be offensive to others, and definitely not go out of our way to be as politically correct as possible, and constantly tip-toe around issues in order to avoid offending someone. That's not how it should work. We aren't mind readers, and we can't predict what will trigger or offend someone. We don't want a nanny state either, where the inhabitants are a bunch of infantilized whiners that want to censor anything that bothers them. If everything offends you, deal with it. You're an adult. |
Spooks said: People just need a dose of common sense "All gays must be killed" is obviously a dick thing to say U support Gays , that just mean you support Aids basically and inhuman things. |
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AllenVonStein said: Spooks said: People just need a dose of common sense "All gays must be killed" is obviously a dick thing to say U support Gays , that just mean you support Aids basically and inhuman things. *Tisk* You're still trying too hard |
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SuperRed said: It would depend if it is in poor taste or not and the context as well. Like something like this isn't funnyDrGeroCreation said: Being offended over every little thing is silly but deliberately being an asshole to someone is wrong. I'm not talking about that, I mean like do people who make gay or autism jokes or who write stereotypes in their stories should avoid doing so in order to not displease the people who belong to that demographic, even if the intention isn't to offend?  |
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| Both. You can be a decent person and people will still get so triggered. It happens all the time I am actually somewhat annoyed that I can not think of a clear example. So I don't feel that bad if I feel what I say is truly innocent but someone is just oversensitive. Like If I met someone who was trans and I called them a girl because that is what they were, and they say some "I identify as a man" I wouldn't feel bad. Your a girl, sorry your "gender identification" means little to me. Of course if I was told ahead of time I would respect it, or if they were polite to me about it. I could literally write an entire paper about this topic due to how broad it is but it should be simply stated: Do not be an asshole and deliberately try to make someone mad. Don't go being offended by small things, and definitely don't go attacking someone in your defense when they had no idea it would offend you. |
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| Both. Don't strive to be an asshole, and be able to shake off an asshole. In the end, it is you who are responsible for yourself. |
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| People should strive to grow and become better, and that includes become more secure and being less sensitive to stuff that mostly doesn't matter. And yes we should be "mindful", but being mindful, for me, is just keeping my distance from the oversensitive bunch. I'm an empathetic dude but I can't wrap my head around people who take offense too easily. That being said... I tend to prioritize trying to understand them above being mindful, more often than not. I mostly tend to poke and prode people out of their comfort zones to try and understand their mindset, but alas, ultimately ends up with the oversensitive bunch in a sourpuss state. Unfortunate. |
KorrvoNov 3, 2016 8:36 PM
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S-Shiro said: I have like no filter at all. I make dick jokes with random people I've never met before. You can be super offensive around your friends that actually are okay with that kinda stuff. I usually have a pretty good filter in public, unless I'm with a large group of people as terrible as I am. Then we have no filter. RIP. Probably my worst quality. (heh) |
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S-Shiro said: I live in the bible belt south so prudes are more common than they otherwise would be. Doesn't stop me though.Korrvo said: Are dick jokes offensive to people? What puritan village are you living in fam?I have like no filter at all. I make dick jokes with random people I've never met before. Probably my worst quality. (heh) I meant like, saying "nigga" or something, lmao. So yeah this one time I was giving a customer his coffee, right? He ordered two, and apparently the one that was a decaf was for his wife. So I wrote on the cup a giant "D" (for decaf) and told him him to make sure to give his wife the D for me. Some old lady the other day got the pager number 69, and you imagine where that went. I do this all the time and thankfully they belly laugh usually otherwise I'd get fired lmao |
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Should people be more mindful of what may be offensive to others, or should those who are offended grow a thicker skin? Both. Don't be a douchebag. But learn to deal elegantly with other people being douchebags. |
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| Both in my opinion. Many people these days have no manners or sensibility. At the same time, everyone is quick to cry for the smallest thing. |
| People should be thick skinned, because no matter what happens you will come across people who have different opinions, and some are going to be assholes about it. Obviously,people should not be mean, but if you always constantly think of being mindful to others, you may end up censoring yourself. |
| As many have mentioned, both. I would say that the latter is more important because the former is harder to deter. |
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| Something in-between. Each side should try to meet the half way. There is no need to be too sensitive and likewise, no need to be rude. |
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| Both.There should be a balance.Most people nowdays are easily offended over meaningless things so they should grow up and ignore them,while on the other side people who are offensive to others may also end up regretting their actions and also trying to improve their manners.I see it more as a compromise. |
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| Grow some thicker skin, bud....... :) |
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SuperRed said: Can you give an example of a gay joke without the intent to offend gay people?DrGeroCreation said: Being offended over every little thing is silly but deliberately being an asshole to someone is wrong. I'm not talking about that, I mean like do people who make gay or autism jokes or who write stereotypes in their stories should avoid doing so in order to not displease the people who belong to that demographic, even if the intention isn't to offend? |
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Darek said: Human beings communicate via language, and that is what jokes are composed of. Yes, jokes have intent.All of them. The intent doesn't lay in the joke but in the person making/copying (usually copying) it. |
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Darek said: So are you actually autistic or is it just like, a thing you're pretending to doRed_Keys said: Human beings communicate via language, and that is what jokes are composed of. Yes, jokes have intent. As far as I am aware words are not conscious... so how can they have intentions? |
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| nobody should censor its opinion for the sake of others but make sure you are not attacking someone or a group of people with a statement because of hostility since it will show and of course people are going to get offended, that being said if someone just has a crucial opinion about something and people get triggered by it then yeah you need to get a thicker skin you can't be concerned with other opinions so much all the time, it is what it is and then you move on. |
| I think we need to sit down and define when something is offensive and when it is not. Unless we can define this term, it's useless. |
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| I probably have a thicker skin than most and I don't get offended much at all. I think to some degree people need to grow some balls and stop saying "I'm offended" like it's going out of fashion. What I think we should be looking at is not necessarily what we say, but how we say it, in other words our intent. For example, I could say "fuck you" to someone but depending on the circumstances I could either be bantering with someone or actually mean it. Now this example doesn't really highlight the other factors such as who I'm talking to or the tone I'm using. I guess a better example is using a colour to identify someone's race. I'm sorry, but calling someone black when their skin is black isn't racist, what is said with it will determine whether it's racist or not. If you're going to be triggered over a colour, you really need to toughen up. Tl;dr: If we keep pandering to these oxygen thieves who keep being triggered over the dumbest of things and enforcing this idea of over-the-top political correctness, you could find yourselves in a world where anything is offensive or where people don't give a shit because it's like The Boy who Cried Wolf. We need to draw the line somewhere and I think we've already passed it. |
SomeEdgeLord said: I WILL report you from this forum if this continues. In real life, I am one of the coldest, unsympathetic, people you'll ever know, who's grown up in an even colder household, you really don't want me to break my persona, I know how to make people feel bad. YearnsforAttention said: hm who has 1656 friends on MAL that's right me bye bye YearnsforAttention said: I don't want your approval how many damn times do I need to say it I enjoy irritating you I am gonna do things MY way |
NoobAsian said: I probably have a thicker skin than most and I don't get offended much at all. I think to some degree people need to grow some balls and stop saying "I'm offended" like it's going out of fashion. What I think we should be looking at is not necessarily what we say, but how we say it, in other words our intent. For example, I could say "fuck you" to someone but depending on the circumstances I could either be bantering with someone or actually mean it. Now this example doesn't really highlight the other factors such as who I'm talking to or the tone I'm using. I guess a better example is using a colour to identify someone's race. I'm sorry, but calling someone black when their skin is black isn't racist, what is said with it will determine whether it's racist or not. If you're going to be triggered over a colour, you really need to toughen up. Tl;dr: If we keep pandering to these oxygen thieves who keep being triggered over the dumbest of things and enforcing this idea of over-the-top political correctness, you could find yourselves in a world where anything is offensive or where people don't give a shit because it's like The Boy who Cried Wolf. We need to draw the line somewhere and I think we've already passed it. With how aggressive some people are when we discuss political correctness, I wonder. What if political correctness triggers some people? |
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| I'm in favor of "thicker skin". Too many people are just whiners and crybabies. People complain about cyberbullying, but what about the people who are being harassed and bullyed physically. So what if a few tards write something harsh about you on Instagram or Facebook, that's better than getting your ass kicked! |
TheBrainintheJar said: With how aggressive some people are when we discuss political correctness, I wonder. What if political correctness triggers some people? If this pertains to me then I wouldn't say the topic itself is what gets on my nerves, it's the individuals who want to go over the top with being PC. That goes with anything really, moronic individuals trying to infect others with their ideas. |
SomeEdgeLord said: I WILL report you from this forum if this continues. In real life, I am one of the coldest, unsympathetic, people you'll ever know, who's grown up in an even colder household, you really don't want me to break my persona, I know how to make people feel bad. YearnsforAttention said: hm who has 1656 friends on MAL that's right me bye bye YearnsforAttention said: I don't want your approval how many damn times do I need to say it I enjoy irritating you I am gonna do things MY way |
| I think people should just kill eachother for both offending and being offended. |
| Be thankful for the wisdom granted to you. |
| Everything is offensive to somebody. Liberals call for hate speech laws while regularly insulting Christianity. Radical Conservatives call for blasphemy laws while regularly hating on Islam. |
| In theory anything can be offensive, so it makes more sense to have the offended grow a thicker skin. If we went with the other option, we'd have to judge when a person is offended for such an absurd reason that we side with the offender, unless you want the offender to literally be forced into complete silence. For example, if an offender offended someone by saying "i love you" are we to make the offender change his words? It is an absurd thing to be offended by but remember offense is just a feeling, it requires no logical explanation to exist. There has to be a grey zone where it becomes hard to judge who takes responsibility if you go this route, but with always putting responsibility on the offended you avoid this dilemma. |
DementedkaliberNov 7, 2016 8:20 PM
NoobAsian said: TheBrainintheJar said: With how aggressive some people are when we discuss political correctness, I wonder. What if political correctness triggers some people? If this pertains to me then I wouldn't say the topic itself is what gets on my nerves, it's the individuals who want to go over the top with being PC. That goes with anything really, moronic individuals trying to infect others with their ideas. Rage is okay, but don't become what you hate. If people being triggered starts to make you react emotionally - you might be getting triggered. |
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TheBrainintheJar said: NoobAsian said: If this pertains to me then I wouldn't say the topic itself is what gets on my nerves, it's the individuals who want to go over the top with being PC. That goes with anything really, moronic individuals trying to infect others with their ideas. Rage is okay, but don't become what you hate. If people being triggered starts to make you react emotionally - you might be getting triggered. What your saying is quite true indeed, it would be very hypocritical of me to get triggered over easily triggered individuals. While they do certainly annoy me I wouldn't say it's making me react more emotionally than normal however. |
SomeEdgeLord said: I WILL report you from this forum if this continues. In real life, I am one of the coldest, unsympathetic, people you'll ever know, who's grown up in an even colder household, you really don't want me to break my persona, I know how to make people feel bad. YearnsforAttention said: hm who has 1656 friends on MAL that's right me bye bye YearnsforAttention said: I don't want your approval how many damn times do I need to say it I enjoy irritating you I am gonna do things MY way |
| Open discourse is necessary, political correctness prevents that. |
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NoobAsian said: TheBrainintheJar said: Rage is okay, but don't become what you hate. If people being triggered starts to make you react emotionally - you might be getting triggered. What your saying is quite true indeed, it would be very hypocritical of me to get triggered over easily triggered individuals. While they do certainly annoy me I wouldn't say it's making me react more emotionally than normal however. Perhaps not you, but when I see "OMG SHUT UP STOP BEING TRIGGERED WHY PEOPLE GET TRIGGERED", I see someone to poke in the eye with a stick. |
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| Hmmm... Why not fucking both? Why can't people just use common sense and not be offensive fucks be a bit more mindful of others, and why don't "social justice warrior" types grow up a bit? Honestly. |
| Talk shit to me and so help me fucking god, I'll come over there and do absolutely nothing. |
| A mix of the two. No reasson not to maintain balace. |
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