| >tfw to smart for fan service i only watch mature anime with no fan service for mature people such as myself too bad most anime nowadays is full of loli moe ecchi harem because thats what sells to them filthy otakus.. anime was a mistake |
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| Because people get easily triggered by slight nudity |
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| I guess fanservice is just too deep for you. Why don't you go watch some pleb anime like Serial Experiments Lain or smth instead of complaining about things that are just too hard for you to understand. |
| People hate it when it was done wrong, they still hate it when it was done right, the bottom line is the fact that IT IS FANSERVICE... demonskul777 said: I guess fanservice is just too deep for you. Why don't you go watch some pleb anime like Serial Experiments Lain or smth instead of complaining about things that are just too hard for you to understand. Ecchi Elitist, you've done it right... where's Mamster? Summon the dude... |
| Because right is subjective. Left is not |
| Probably due to the commonly held misconception that objectification is inherent to sexualization, when this is not the case. A character can still look appealing to the male or female audience while being well written and/or empowered. Look at Ryuuko from KLK, she's a great example. |
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_Ako_ said: People hate it when it was done wrong, they still hate it when it was done right, the bottom line is the fact that IT IS FANSERVICE... demonskul777 said: I guess fanservice is just too deep for you. Why don't you go watch some pleb anime like Serial Experiments Lain or smth instead of complaining about things that are just too hard for you to understand. Ecchi Elitist, you've done it right... where's Mamster? Summon the dude... I can only summon Mamster if I draw all five cards of the Forbidden One: Left Boob Right boob Left buttock Right buttock A very cute, extraverted personality :( |
| I reckon people have different ideas of what "done right" is supposed to mean? But yeah I guess the most general answer would be that fanservice is fine as long as it does not 1) needlessly degrade the characters, 2) come off as extremely forced or even unrealistic, or 3) try to use its story as some sort of excuse to justify the presence of its fanservice; if you already know everyone is watching the show for the ecchi anyway then you shouldn't need to include a bunch of other stuff just to have some excuse in case the SJWs come after you Other than that it's fine I'd say |
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| Because people aren't happy if they aren't complaining about something. |
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| Keijo does fan service right. So does Flip Flappers. |
| I have no idea what this topic was about I honestly couldn't be bothered to read the entire post, all I saw was fanservice. And that's all I needed. I love fanservice, it's a gift from the anime gods. All should revere in its greatness. There is no way to do fanservice in a bad way, for it is the truest of any art form. I am humbled by the amount of fanservice in the anime industry. I think that--no...I HOPE that one day, fanservice will be spread across the globe, and all will know of its beauty. Children will study it, scholars will archive it. Yes, that is the future. |
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| But how often is fanservice done right? Most of it feels thrown in to keep our attention. Keijo does it right but that's a rarity by itself. |
| I play video games. You should play a video game because you read my signature. |
Tiddy is never done wrong so the concept of fan service done wrong is 100% foreign to me. Sorry.  |
HaXXspetten said: 3) try to use its story as some sort of excuse to justify the presence of its fanservice; if you already know everyone is watching the show for the ecchi anyway then you shouldn't need to include a bunch of other stuff just to have some excuse in case the SJWs come after you Other than that it's fine I'd say this especially. so annoying when people have to put up ten walls of deflection |
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HaXXspetten said: 3) try to use its story as some sort of excuse to justify the presence of its fanservice; if you already know everyone is watching the show for the ecchi anyway then you shouldn't need to include a bunch of other stuff just to have some excuse in case the SJWs come after you Other than that it's fine I'd say Kill la Kill fanbase in a nutshell right there. |
| Because it is never done right. Give me one good example of fanservice that isn't sexist. |
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| Is it even fan service if it's not gratuitous though? |
elnikok said: CherryLover said: Because it is never done right. Give me one good example of fanservice that isn't sexist. i already put two examples in the post Kono Suba is a bad show that is blatantly sexist, as I've already repeated dozens of times in the subforum. Your examples are invalid. |
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elnikok said: CherryLover said: Kono Suba is a bad show that is blatantly sexist, as I've already repeated dozens of times in the subforum. Your examples are invalid. i`m very tired of feminist, i always feel like i`m talking to wall This feminist probably also feels like she's talking to a wall. She didn't agree with your examples, now you have to either proof they are correct or provide an example that she will agree with. |
CherryLover said: Kono Suba is a bad show that is blatantly sexist, as I've already repeated dozens of times in the subforum. Your examples are invalid. Oh god not again.... @demonskul777 @elnikok Please don't feed the troll. Sooo what side are we talking about OP? >done right. >opinions Fun. |
sasalx said: CherryLover said: Kono Suba is a bad show that is blatantly sexist, as I've already repeated dozens of times in the subforum. Your examples are invalid. Oh god not again.... @demonskul777 @elnikok Please don't feed the troll. Sooo what side are we talking about OP? >done right. >opinions Fun. lol I guess I shouldn't. But I like seeing heated discussions. :( |
CherryLover said: Because it is never done right. Give me one good example of fanservice that isn't sexist. "How to please every anime viewer in the world" - Unknown random dude demonskul777 said: _Ako_ said: People hate it when it was done wrong, they still hate it when it was done right, the bottom line is the fact that IT IS FANSERVICE... Ecchi Elitist, you've done it right... where's Mamster? Summon the dude... I can only summon Mamster if I draw all five cards of the Forbidden One: Left Boob Right boob Left buttock Right buttock A very cute, extraverted personality :( Dude, post one pic of Mai-senpai... He'll be here faster than you fapping... |
| See, people love tits. Reasonable, since why wouldn't you love tits. Except, once they actually get the tits they asked for, even if just drawn, they'll feel shameful and disgusting and they'll try to ban boobage of any kind from existence. Also, it's not intellectual, and yes, all of us on MAL are such intelligent wonderful creatures, hope for human kind and not trash at all. We're above fapping to pirated doujins (except when we aren't). And honestly, if somebody says that girls can't enjoy fanservice anime, well, I do have some friends, and hey, some of them happen to be girls, weirdly. From experience, my anime go-to for having fun while drinking is Monster Musume. It just works. |
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CherryLover said: Because it is never done right. Give me one good example of fanservice that isn't sexist. You mean, most forms of fanservice that aren't sexually oriented? Because, you know, there's far more to fanservice than just throwing female boobs or male abs at the viewer. OT : Define 'done right'. Having scantily-clad characters does not immediately mean it is fanservice. If it's relevant to the plot, scene, etc then it cannot be fanservice, unless it is specifically used in a certain manner. A large portion of Kill la Kill has some very good plot reasons for the characters to be scantily clad (stop the armours taking over their body by reducing surface area) or outright naked (all the mostly male members of the Nudist Beach organisation) but that doesn't mean we don't get tittilating angles throughout. The gif of Ryuko adjusting her straps and having her boobs bounce up and down comes to mind. It's all down to how it is used. KlK has some scenes that are obviously designed to appeal to the viewers on a more base level, but at the same time it has plenty of decent reasons for the characters to dress how they do. To address the Black Lagoon example - showing us topless hookers isn't really fanservice if the characters are in a brothel / shady part of town where that sort of business runs rampant. I really can't get around this notion that showing skin or having sex in a story is immediately fanservice. It's all about how it is used. |
 It's an entirely different kind of flying, altogether! It's an entirely different kind of flying. |
| "done right" my ass the ONLY THING i need to know if ecchi is "done right" is my boner and my urge to fap |
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EcchiLordMamster said: "done right" my ass the ONLY THING i need to know if ecchi is "done right" is my boner and my urge to fap That's the signal to you dude... But... What about to other butthurt viewers? |
_Ako_ said: EcchiLordMamster said: "done right" my ass the ONLY THING i need to know if ecchi is "done right" is my boner and my urge to fap That's the signal to you dude... But... What about to other butthurt viewers? i couldn't tell you what "done right" means for a person who isn't attracted to anime girls or just doesn't want to fap to them fanservice is done right when ppl are turned on by it... i don't see any other way |
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volt16 said: Because what you describe is not fanservice. Fanservice is when the writers go out of their way to give us a panty shot/ boob shot etc. which in no way or form is significant to the plot. They are just doing it to appease the sex hungry primarily male audience. On the other hand, scenes with naked people as in Black Lagoon or other anime that have some bearing on the story itself do not qualify as fanservice. They are a part of the plot or in the case of Black Lagoon part of the enviroment. Fanservice "done right" is still fanservice and "done right" may have a different meaning depending on whom you ask. Exactly, the term "Fan Service" itself implies that it's something cheaply done for nothing more than eye candy. It's like saying "What's wrong with cheap laughs when done right?", it's a negative term out the gate. |
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EcchiLordMamster said: i couldn't tell you what "done right" means for a person who isn't attracted to anime girls or just doesn't want to fap to them fanservice is done right when ppl are turned on by it... i don't see any other way Lol... To be honest, different viewers have different perspective on how something is "done right". But in terms of fanservice, I'd agree on what you said. Wensbane said: As far as I'm concerned, if it's fan service, it can't be done right. Due to the fact that, they just gets butthurt too easily... If they don't like it why bother watching it from the start? If the see constant fanservice, why don't doubt the series? Ultimately, it's how you view a series, not just if the fanservice is executed right or wrong. |
| Because your definition of fanservice done right and mine is different. I don't remember that black lagoon scene but it doesn't even sound like fanservice |
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| I like fan-service they give rise to many good things, but also many bad things is like a scale that is equivalent. |
| "There are no eternal facts, as there are no absolute truths." ― Friedrich Nietzsche |
Wensbane said: As far as I'm concerned, if it's fan service, it can't be done right. That's the whole point. It's service. If it actually pertains to the plot it's no longer service. This is especially true for ecchi. If it's relevant, it's not really ecchi anymore, it's just a regular sensual or erotic scene. Many anime and manga have nudity but don't fall into the ecchi "genre." Berserk isn't ecchi. But Übel Blatt is. The differences are pretty obvious, even within similar works. Anyway, sexual fan service is there to grab you by the balls. No more, no less. And man, it works... i just fucking lol'd irl at your tag... you finally did it man xD |
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| Most important thing is good is subjective. Though I agree with your example from Black Lagoon, because the environment made sense for them to be dressed like that. |
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| Just a tiny spoiler from Berserk, but this is fan-service done right. |
| Fanservice = fan + service. . . What do you mean by story/plot purposes? |
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How the fuck is that fan service? *Filler cause MAL is annoying* |
All I'm saying is Donovan got some cheeks. No homo though. |
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