| (This is my second post regarding age ratings, the first being one about an age-rating misprint.) What are some age ratings you've seen on anime (and manga) that you still can't make sense of? Here are some of mine : (Note that they mostly center around HMV and the BBFC because those are the two shops/organisations I'm familiar with) Itsudatte My Santa! 12, has nudity. However, misprint. Actually TV-MA/18? Neon Genesis Evangelion and it's sequels HMV in Britain tells me it's a 15... because of animated nudity! Tha fuck? That's the last thing I expect Evangelion to be age-rated on, even if it is true. OreImo 18 because apparently incest and maybe two fanservice scenes in the entire season equals "strong sexual fetish references, sexual violence references". Cheeky bastards. Fairy Tail(Fanservice central) and Naruto(Weeb central, maybe some more bloody scenes) both happen to have a PG-13. I mean, I'm not complaining, but that's a bit of a disparity. What ones do you know? Edit: The reason for my complaint on this is because I myself am just about to hit 14, and thus can still technically not buy 15s or 18s. Although I have, on numerous occasions, passed for 15. MAL in general is really weird with their ratings, but that's just because it's community-regulated, not law-regulated etc. |
snowfall2000Sep 25, 2016 3:43 PM
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| The ratings don't seem to carry the same weight as for games... they don't interfere with sales as much I guess. Mononoke was pg13 and had giant, bleeding, vomiting boars and scary ass headless wolves, whereas Criminal Girls 2 would get an AO rating without censorship. |
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| If ur an adult u shouldnt give a shit about that in the first place, coz none of it matters :p |
| Ratings where? In Japan? Or elsewhere, because different standards do apply. |
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| The MAL age ratings and categories are a joke. I find it absurd that the movie Belladonna of Sadness is categorized under hentai. Robiiii said: I wouldn't even use ratings for my kids. I'd look at the content and decide if it's suitable for them. Age ratings are so arbitrary. A kid might be more mature and better able to handle it than many adults. The number is just an excuse for the parent not to study their kid. It's easier to pick something for them if you don't have to look at the descriptions or figure out the content. I hate age ratings because of how they make creators censor their work. If ur an adult u shouldnt give a shit about that in the first place, coz none of it matters :p Mod edit: Combined double posts. Please edit, rather than making a new post. |
ArdanazSep 26, 2016 1:19 AM
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I mean really...Anyone in this world care age ratings? |
| Japan doesn't have a TV age rating system, but when anime are released on DVD they'll come with an age rating (PG-15 is one of the options). If MAL used this then we wouldn't have to worry about things like Madoka and Naruto switching age ratings every six months. |
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| Anime fans who think that age ratings matters = non-anime fans saying that 'anime is for children'. Everybody should watch what would they like. |
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Shoegum said: sasalx said: Yes, age ratings do not matter for the adult population, but for anyone under the age of 18, it's pretty damn important.... >.> Hmmm let me see... Watched: Berserk Oh wait wait.What is that list? -%15 affinity.Welp since looking that list gave me cancer and I don't want more of it I will say this.Even you don't care age ratings.I was going to list every "+18" anime as evidence but yea can't do that. So my answer for this no it's pretty damn not important.Just because there is blood or fight scenes doesn't mean a child can't watch that.The only example I can think is Corpse Party and that name should give a hint about series right? |
| I forget that the age ratings exist most of the time. |
| @Shoegum Come on.Even a 12 yo child knows what porn is.This is called Era of Internet.Approving this is a different question but this is a fact. Also: |
| Itsudatte My Santa! was actually rated G in one part of Canada (Manitoba), and 13+/14A in two others (Quebec, Ontario). Watamote is rated PG in Manitoba for having an "adverse psychological impact". |
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| Age ratings are shit. Fuck 'em. I've been watching fucked up shit since i was 12 and im perfectly fine...(yup) They rate 'em based on how "mature" the show is. Certain bloody and/or "disturbing" scenes don't matter if a show has fuckung fart jokes. Also it differs from country to country. |
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cookies0 said: I think it's weirder to actually care about ratings. Unless you are a parent buying stuff for their kid. Am kid. Am also happy because somebody I distracted a guy at HMV and he forgot to check the label on Panty & Stocking (18, obviously) and I got to buy it, hehe On_the_Lam said: NGE is appropriately rated 15. I'd personally never show it to anyone under that age, especially the End of Evangelion. But why on earth would you base that 15 on the scene where Asuka's nude? That makes no sense to me, I'd assume you agree with the rating because of the general GAINAX vibe and everything, so yeah - it's rated correctly but for the wrong reasons. Mod edit: Combined double posts. Please edit, rather than making a new post. |
ArdanazSep 26, 2016 1:20 AM
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Ezekiel said: The MAL age ratings and categories are a joke. I find it absurd that the movie Belladonna of Sadness is categorized under hentai. According to MAL, yes. That's because MAL automatically seems to categorise shows with any sort of full nudity as Rx. It does not seem to have an E (Ecchi) or At (Adult Themes) option, which would be much more appropriate at times. Take the aforementioned Itsudatte My Santa anime mentioned above. Because of a <10-second scene where the female protagonist shows her tits, it got an Rx - Hentai on MAL, and a TV-MA/18. cookies0 said: ScriptWorksX said: Am kid. Am also happy because somebody I distracted a guy at HMV and he forgot to check the label on Panty & Stocking (18, obviously) and I got to buy it, hehe If you are a minor, then it's up to your parents to decide whether they will buy it for you or not. Surely, they will understand when you show them that the anime is wrongly rated (age wise). But yes, if you are a minor, then these ratings will negatively affect you. Although you can't do anything to change it, you can only adapt. Well, actually it doesn't really mean anything to me, because I've been using KissAnime since forever, and my parents don't give a shit unless "tiddies". And as for that, I think my Anime List makes a good point of what I think about that. The only reason I hate the age ratings is because nobody seems to know how to do it properly, and that I can't support the creators of shows I liked by buying the product. I mean, I've already watched OreImo, Panty and Stocking, and parts of Death Note but I can't give money to the people who made it, because AGE RATINGS REEEE Mod edit: Combined double posts. Please edit, rather than making a new post. |
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| Ive heard x is banned in japan so maybe Japan's moral guardians are just retarded |
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ScriptWorksX said: On_the_Lam said: NGE is appropriately rated 15. I'd personally never show it to anyone under that age, especially the End of Evangelion. But why on earth would you base that 15 on the scene where Asuka's nude? That makes no sense to me, I'd assume you agree with the rating because of the general GAINAX vibe and everything, so yeah - it's rated correctly but for the wrong reasons. What's even stranger about this is that the episode where Shinji accidentally touches Rei's bare breast in the original Evangelion got a PG. |
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cookies0 said: ScriptWorksX said: Well, actually it doesn't really mean anything to me, because I've been using KissAnime since forever, and my parents don't give a shit unless "tiddies". And as for that, I think my Anime List makes a good point of what I think about that. The only reason I hate the age ratings is because nobody seems to know how to do it properly, and that I can't support the creators of shows I liked by buying the product. I mean, I've already watched OreImo, Panty and Stocking, and parts of Death Note but I can't give money to the people who made it, because AGE RATINGS REEEE You can buy the Japanese products instead. Sure, you need a credit/debit card for that, but those are easy to get unless you live in a third world country. I'm also buying the Japanese products instead of the translated ones, but that's because I hate official translations. (For manga and LNs, go to honto.jp, and you can use Amazon for everything else.) Wanna spend 20 years convincing my parents I want to use it for online features rather than hiding my PornHub Premium account? (Who the fuck pays for porn in the 21st century, btw?) |
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| [quote=ScriptWorksX message=47915876 (Who the fuck pays for porn in the 21st century, btw?)[/quote] Ehhh... Probably a lot since the industry is still doing pretty strong... |
Ezekiel said: The MAL age ratings and categories are a joke. I find it absurd that the movie Belladonna of Sadness is categorized under hentai. It would be nice if there was an AO rating that wasn't porn related. |
| Why do you care? Stream and read all your shit illegally because the anime industry clearly doesn't give any fucks about you youngsters |
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| the thing about viewer ratings for all tv/anime/movies is that they are all incredibly arbitrary. Theyre made up and chosen by people at their own random indiscretion. theres no strong criteria, its all chosen by a groups subjective bias. considering how no kid is the same and no kid is going to react the same way, theres no real way to tell how things will affect EVERY SINGLE kid. |
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Ezekiel said: The MAL age ratings and categories are a joke. I find it absurd that the movie Belladonna of Sadness is categorized under hentai. Yeah, that is kinda ridiculous. It's the only "hentai" that can be purchased on YouTube and has been reviewed by several film magazines...clearly no one considers this pornography and an R+ would be more appropriate. |
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| Japan applies age rating differently than west. What seems weird to you may be normal to them. But yeah, MAL categories and genres are stupid. Those need to be fixed asap. |
| Ah, but it's not Japan rates them. It's the BBFC and whatever you guys have in America. |
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| Well, nowadays kids are making their first time at 6 y/o and kill for the first time at 7. I'm not really worried about the age rating on MAL. |
ScriptWorksX said: cookies0 said: I think it's weirder to actually care about ratings. Unless you are a parent buying stuff for their kid. Am kid. Am also happy because somebody I distracted a guy at HMV and he forgot to check the label on Panty & Stocking (18, obviously) and I got to buy it, hehe On_the_Lam said: NGE is appropriately rated 15. I'd personally never show it to anyone under that age, especially the End of Evangelion. But why on earth would you base that 15 on the scene where Asuka's nude? That makes no sense to me, I'd assume you agree with the rating because of the general GAINAX vibe and everything, so yeah - it's rated correctly but for the wrong reasons. Mod edit: Combined double posts. Please edit, rather than making a new post. Did you mean during the End of Evangelion? Um.....Asuka being "nude" ISN'T why that scene is rated over 15. Something WAY more inappropriate happens in that scene and I am not going to describe it in detail to a 14-year-old. lol |
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| look at the audience of CoD. Rated 18. |
Malarkey said: but u can totes buy X from japanIve heard x is banned in japan so maybe Japan's moral guardians are just retarded aqing0601 said: dae le cawadoody 9gag army xDxDxDlook at the audience of CoD. Rated 18.  |
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| Age ratings in general can be pretty stupid sometimes. A movie/TV show can have a higher age rating just for having "bad language" and nothing else. Meanwhile Simpsons could show Homers ass all day and still be rated TV PG. |
Ezekiel said: The MAL age ratings and categories are a joke. I find it absurd that the movie Belladonna of Sadness is categorized under hentai. To my understanding MAL does not create/ apply ratings themselves, they just take ratings that are already out there. (aka. "wikipedia-style") Hence the 18+ rating for Belladonna of Sadness, since it originally ran under XXX restrictions in the US. Now there seems to be a recent blueray re-release and I don't know what kind of rating that got, but I agree a rating of PG-13 or younger would be inappropriate. Robiiii said: If ur an adult u shouldnt give a shit about that in the first place, coz none of it matters :p I am 50yo and sometimes care about the ratings - they help me in finding anime resp. in knowing what to expect, particularly if the rating comes with "reason: so-so". --------------- But what I would wish for is that the publishing industry would and could more easily have their content's rating re-assessed. Here in Germany some >50-year-old ratings still apply, since no publisher would ever waste that amount of money and work on having their old content re-assessed, for no or little gain - and it is organised so that only the publisher can demand for a re-assessment. Hence eg. Bonjour Tristesse is still at 18+ for what was considered "potentially detrimental to adolescents's personalities" over half a century ago. Watching a Bonjour Tristesse DvD/ VHS with your <18yo kids would actually be illegal/ an offense. (Letting them watch it when it is on TV would not, legal shenanigans) I forgot which one and where (Europe?, germany?, US?), but some famous shooter game last year or so got a new, lower rating - but a unreasonable effort was needed to get that re-assessment and rating. |
BannoBunka_snorkSep 28, 2016 11:21 AM
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BannoBunka_snork said: Blu-rays/DVDs of old foreign films and TV shows are usually unrated. As I expected, Netflix has it as unrated.Ezekiel said: The MAL age ratings and categories are a joke. I find it absurd that the movie Belladonna of Sadness is categorized under hentai. To my understanding MAL does not create/ apply ratings themselves, they just take ratings that are already out there. (aka. "wikipedia-style") Hence the 18+ rating for Belladonna of Sadness, since it originally ran under XXX restrictions in the US. Now there seems to be a recent blueray re-release and I don't know what kind of rating that got, but I agree a rating of PG-13 or younger would be inappropriate. It's kind of dumb to use a US rating from the '70s. It should be rated R+ here at the most. Japan didn't distribute it as hentai. I don't think Mushi Production has ever sold hentai. Even if they had distributed it as hentai, it just isn't. |
EzekielSep 28, 2016 12:26 PM
Chiibi said: ScriptWorksX said: Am kid. Am also happy because somebody I distracted a guy at HMV and he forgot to check the label on Panty & Stocking (18, obviously) and I got to buy it, hehe But why on earth would you base that 15 on the scene where Asuka's nude? That makes no sense to me, I'd assume you agree with the rating because of the general GAINAX vibe and everything, so yeah - it's rated correctly but for the wrong reasons. Mod edit: Combined double posts. Please edit, rather than making a new post. Did you mean during the End of Evangelion? Um.....Asuka being "nude" ISN'T why that scene is rated over 15. Something WAY more inappropriate happens in that scene and I am not going to describe it in detail to a 14-year-old. lol Oh no, don't worry. On the back of the case where it describes the reasons for the rating it got, it literally says "nudity". One or two other things too, but nothing about the actual theme of the show. And I don't know what happens, but after watching Oni ChiChi, Boku no Pico, Black Bible, some shows I don't know the name of that have ridiculous gore, and some fucked up shit on the deep web, trust me that I don't think anything will ever surprise me anymore. |
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| High School DxD is straight-up banned in New Zealand for "presenting minors as sexually desirable" or something like that. Dance in the Vampire Bund, which almost didn't get released uncut in the US due to its frequent nude scenes involving a vampire who looks like a nine-year-old girl, got released with an R16. How is random nine-year-old nudity in an action series more appropriate than comical nudity on high school girls who are actually drawn with adult bodies? |
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ScriptWorksX said: Chiibi said: Did you mean during the End of Evangelion? Um.....Asuka being "nude" ISN'T why that scene is rated over 15. Something WAY more inappropriate happens in that scene and I am not going to describe it in detail to a 14-year-old. lol Oh no, don't worry. On the back of the case where it describes the reasons for the rating it got, it literally says "nudity". One or two other things too, but nothing about the actual theme of the show. And I don't know what happens, but after watching Oni ChiChi, Boku no Pico, Black Bible, some shows I don't know the name of that have ridiculous gore, and some fucked up shit on the deep web, trust me that I don't think anything will ever surprise me anymore. WHAT UDOING WATCHING PORN KID, NO. BAD. NAUGHTY. Well, the biggest reason for rating End of Eva that high would be I also missed it the first time watching it and I was over 18 then. XD |
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