Which do you think the General Public shuns more?
| A lot think tenticle porn when they think of anime. |
BonerBender said: I second that. There is too much material which has yet to be edited, so that the majority of western public may access to this medium.Incest and sexualization of minors. |
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| Of course its the childish fanservice, sexualizing little girls and in general just pandering to neckbeards with waifu's and self insert MC's. |
| which anime does the nsfw pic come from? wait nvm, seems like its from a game |
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everynamestaken said: Yeah pretty much this, I voted its seen as to feminine but really its still viewed as childish.actually the general public thinks that anime is kids'cartoon and that's it. unless more seinen become mainstream that wont change |
| From my experience, what keeps them from watching it is mostly; Over-sexualisation of Anime Characters, Incest/Gay/ForbiddenLove relationships, Ecchi/Hentai, Lolis/Shotas and lastly the cute-sy Animation like Acchi Kochi. Oh, and 90% of them think that Pokémon and the most Popular Anime like Naruto are the only Anime Series Produced. |
Iroha-chan said: From my experience, what keeps them from watching it is mostly; Over-sexualisation of Anime Characters, Incest/Gay/ForbiddenLove relationships, Ecchi/Hentai, Lolis/Shotas and lastly the cute-sy Animation like Acchi Kochi. Oh, and 90% of them think that Pokémon and the most Popular Anime like Naruto are the only Anime Series Produced. People who are weirded out by sexy anime characters are hilarious. Meet the visual arts. Visual arts ofen explore what being 'sexy' is. Get over it. |
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| LOL looking at the poll results I think its pretty safe to say Ecchi and Harem. If someone were to watch one of those are there first and that was there first impression. They would think anime is garbage and has no real point other than ass, titties, and wish fulfillment. |
TheBrainintheJar said: Iroha-chan said: From my experience, what keeps them from watching it is mostly; Over-sexualisation of Anime Characters, Incest/Gay/ForbiddenLove relationships, Ecchi/Hentai, Lolis/Shotas and lastly the cute-sy Animation like Acchi Kochi. Oh, and 90% of them think that Pokémon and the most Popular Anime Shows like DBZ are the only Anime Series Produced. People who are weirded out by sexy anime characters are hilarious. Meet the visual arts. Visual arts ofen explore what being 'sexy' is. Get over it. If only those who actually avoid Anime like a 'bug' due to the reason mentioned above could've a word with you ;) |
| People who didn't watch anime at my school all simply called anime is hentai... |
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Iroha-chan said: TheBrainintheJar said: People who are weirded out by sexy anime characters are hilarious. Meet the visual arts. Visual arts ofen explore what being 'sexy' is. Get over it. If only those who actually avoid Anime like a 'bug' due to the reason mentioned above could've a word with you ;) What's the difference between that famous painting of Venus/Mona Lisa and the characters of Neptunia? Both are visual pieces of art showing beautiful women. |
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| Has to do with the fact that some deem it as a cartoon. I'll be honest, before March of 2015, I HATED anime. Thought it was for children and anyone else who watched it was f*cking weird. Then 2 of my friends kept talking to each other and me about this anime called "Mirai Nikki". They just kept talking about it, so I decided to try it out and LOVED it. Bottom line is, people think anime is a cartoon similar to spongebob and will think those who watch it are children. I was one of them after all ^_^ |
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TheBrainintheJar said: Iroha-chan said: If only those who actually avoid Anime like a 'bug' due to the reason mentioned above could've a word with you ;) What's the difference between that famous painting of Venus/Mona Lisa and the characters of Neptunia? Both are visual pieces of art showing beautiful women. I know, right? That's a question I would like to ask them too. They're just stubborn/ close-minded or maybe they just don't mix well. Whatever floats in their sea though. |
| Probably because the fanbase is outright cancer? The quickest way for something to get a negative stigma is to have a shitty fanbase and all |
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| Because most of the anime is bad, like the movie Attack of the Clones |
| It is so dense. Every single image has so many things going on. |
| I don't understand why so many people think that NSFW genres is what gives anime a bad name. I have never met someone who doesn't know anything about anime but dismisses it as "only ecchi and pervert shows". The only people I've heard complaining about the amount of ecchi in anime were anime fans themselves. People who don't watch anime at all don't know about ecchi, it's not like To Love Ru or Highschool DxD are broadcasted on TV or super popular. When thinking about anime, the general public will most likely think about mainstream shows they saw when they were young (Sailor Moon, Dragon Ball, Naruto, One Piece, Fairy Tail, Death Note...). None of them are ecchi. From what I've heard, people just think anime is for children and consists only of action shounen shows, or they think that anime fans are all obsessive and socially akward. I've seen parents who have a bad image of anime, but it's almost always because of violence or lack of educational values, not sex. Same with loli/shota, do you seriously think that the general public know about loli/shota or yaoi? To know that you have to be either an anime fan, or from a community close to it (gamers, 4chan users). The "general public" doesn't have a clue about it. |
| From my own experience with people who have no clue about anime, they think it's either stuff only for children or young teens (Pokémon, Dragon Ball Z, Naruto) or the exact opposite and think all anime are weird sex cartoons with tentacles and underage girls. |
| Where is the option to vote for the stupid humans who are the reason people view anime bad? |
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Iroha-chan said: TheBrainintheJar said: What's the difference between that famous painting of Venus/Mona Lisa and the characters of Neptunia? Both are visual pieces of art showing beautiful women. I know, right? That's a question I would like to ask them too. They're just stubborn/ close-minded or maybe they just don't mix well. Whatever floats in their sea though. My problem isn't so much with people not liking anime, but people dismissing the sexy stuff as completely devoid of purpose or art or value. That's odd. That's like claiming a food is entirely useless because it tastes good but doesn't have a lot of nutrition. They also have an antisexual vibe coming off them. |
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| People just view them as cartoons and think cartoons are for kids. They don't really get far enough into anime to have any other complaint. |
TheBrainintheJar said: Iroha-chan said: I know, right? That's a question I would like to ask them too. They're just stubborn/ close-minded or maybe they just don't mix well. Whatever floats in their sea though. My problem isn't so much with people not liking anime, but people dismissing the sexy stuff as completely devoid of purpose or art or value. That's odd. That's like claiming a food is entirely useless because it tastes good but doesn't have a lot of nutrition. They also have an antisexual vibe coming off them. Most of the "sexy" stuff in anime serves no purpose apart from making some horny dude's fap to it, thats it. Sexy characters are fine but ridiculous pandering characters with huge boobs and panty shots every minute are not. |
AssumingControlJul 6, 2016 8:03 AM
| The main factor has to be the fanservice/ecchi/hentai perception that a lot of people have. I've met a lot of people who seem to have this perception that all anime is hentai, or that think the only reason anyone watches anime is for fap material. Even my wife thinks anime is 20% DBZ and 80% hentai, which makes it incredibly difficult now that my daughter has started to get into anime. I have to spend so much time on my phone looking up parental guides for anime titles when I take my daughter to the store because if a single panty shot is shown my wife will flip her shit. Just a few weeks ago we rented some series (I wanna be an angel or something like that) which was clearly intended for kids and the guides I found seemed to point to it being pretty tame. About 20 seconds in, during the opening theme, my wife sees the catgirl character and immediately is like, "I don't know if this is appropriate for kids." It wasn't even a sexy catgirl or anything. |
| ^let her watch natsume yuujinchou~ OT From what I've seen on the internet.. "lol you watch anime, so you like seeing 5year old girls get tentacle raped" Welp Well, I'm happy shingeki was huge since it brought in people who haven't seen much anime aside from dbz etc so more mainstream is also welcome..it's mainstream for a reason, many people enjoyed it. |
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| i imagine that to a non watcher it looks and sounds really annoying. . especially if it's such a time hole. like if you didn't watch anime, didn't like kawaii japanese stuff, and your roommate was watching some long running kawaii series all the time, I think it would seem pretty disgusting. Also the minors thing. It doesn't even have to be sexualized. a grown man watching a show about a bunch of little girls doing little girl things is typically frowned upon where I'm from. This is a big reason why people are turned off but I don't think it's the biggest. |
| Well, there's several reasons why. Over-the-top fights, too many characters, lolis, fanservice and sexualized scenes (though this happens in regular tv shows, but I guess it's because it's mostly of high school girls in anime), and high-pitched Japanese voices. The term "weeaboo", now in referring to anyone who enjoys anime, has been thrown around the internet enough times that people just assume that anyone who watches anime is a gross "weeb". Most people think that most of it is also just mindless garbage. Which I will admit, anime has its fair share of that. Monster Musume doesn't really help anime's case, either. People don't really think of shows like Cowboy Bebop, Ping Pong the Animation, Tatami Galaxy or Mushishi when they think of anime. They picture Naruto, Dragon Ball and basically any ecchi show you can think of. They think anime is for perverts or 12 year old boys, so they look down on it, I guess. |
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D1UTURNUS said: Because most of the anime is bad, like the movie Attack of the Clones But is it dangerous like a fire in a nursing home? |
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KoreaWS said: I'd like to add "Edgy shows" to the list please. Akame ga kill, Tokio Ghoul, you know, the usual suspects. They're teenager fodder and I think they hurt the image, as it makes anime look inmature, which is different than saying "is for kids". Lool oh please, you mean the mainstream audience that love mindless action shows like transformers, hell boy, the terminator, kill bill, ect? If you haven't realise your type of audience is in the minority, the mainstream audience would eat up these edgy series if they actually sit down and watch them, because gore/sex sells. I would rather those edgy series to represent the face of anime than those moe/pervy anime like rewrite for eg, the story could be really good, but the moe character design and how the characters act childish is so annoying to the point that it distract me from the story. From my experience most non anime watchers either say anime is for kids or anime is made for perverts. Those edgy series most of the times have none of those features that you hear non anime watchers talk from out of their mouth. You're overestimating the mainstream audience to think they know the difference between a mature series and a violent series. Non anime watchers don't believe that anime is violent because all they see is perverted stuff, plus anime is made in Japan one of, if not the most perverted Country in the world, not to mention anime is animated therefore people will automatically assume it's for kids. |
keragammingJul 6, 2016 9:26 PM
| Because they think they're "too cool for cartoons cause cartoons are for kids!!!," as they sit and watch South Park or whatever's popular with them gosh darn city kids these days. |
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Anime itself is niche even in Japan itself. what rational reasons regarding Anime would you say makes the general public uneasy? Aside from the 4 options you posted, elitist. Elitist will bash you just because general public/casual watch a few anime or only watch the mainstream anime. Nico- said: The fans and people who watch it in general. Loathsome elitist hipster stereotypes and true freaks of nature are always a drag. This. Agree. |
ZapredonJul 6, 2016 10:50 PM
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
| Actually they see animation and they think its kids cartoon, you can't imagine how many times I've been told that |
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A5IAN said: Has to do with the fact that some deem it as a cartoon. I'll be honest, before March of 2015, I HATED anime. Thought it was for children and anyone else who watched it was f*cking weird. Then 2 of my friends kept talking to each other and me about this anime called "Mirai Nikki". They just kept talking about it, so I decided to try it out and LOVED it. Bottom line is, people think anime is a cartoon similar to spongebob and will think those who watch it are children. I was one of them after all ^_^ This. This might sound elitist, but most mainstream anime is cringe-tier in my opinion, and I think that's what kept me from watching anime up until recently. I used to think all anime was as cringe-inducing as shows like Death Note, Naruto, or One Piece until I opened my mind to good shows that I actually really enjoyed (ie. Black Lagoon, Noir, Gunsmith Cats). |
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| Well I mean I remember being back in school and I'd watch anime with bros at lunch, and the most common thing I'd hear is "you watching porn?" Because thats all they literally knew anime for, being sexual. I mean people don't say watching Adventure Time is disgusting, but I guess people just see all the shit rather than what anime really is... I'm Donald Trump when it comes to Ecchi/hentai... Just burn it all |
Ecchi/fanservice. The amount of focus put into things like this: |
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Omni_slash95 said: TheBrainintheJar said: My problem isn't so much with people not liking anime, but people dismissing the sexy stuff as completely devoid of purpose or art or value. That's odd. That's like claiming a food is entirely useless because it tastes good but doesn't have a lot of nutrition. They also have an antisexual vibe coming off them. Most of the "sexy" stuff in anime serves no purpose apart from making some horny dude's fap to it, thats it. Sexy characters are fine but ridiculous pandering characters with huge boobs and panty shots every minute are not. Sexy characters are great, but let them do other stuff while being sexy. Buo said: 1 and 2 to be honest. I'll be the first to admit that series like LoGH, Mushishi or Texhnolyze appealed to me because I wanted to prove myself that anime wasn't for kids (or "weirdos" that fantasize over sexualized underaged girls), and those are the animes that directly show how mature they are (or are trying to be). A whole lot of people must have done the same, you very often hear that anime is for basement dweller man-children, so when you see an anime that tries really hard to be serious and mature, you tend to overrate it just so you can prove to other people and most importantly yourself that anime can be mature. The thing is, the more I watch I anime, the more I tend to dislike those shows. A show that has faith in his viewers doesn't need to clearly show them that it is mature, we're smart enough to notice it ourselves. Now I'm not saying animes that try really hard to be mature are inherently bad and the same goes for silly shows with no substance. But I think shows that are in between are the best, shows that appear to be childish or silly at first but cover serious themes are the ones that offer the most (in this medium). This person knows what he's talking about and you should all watch Haibane Renmei |
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keragamming said: KoreaWS said: I'd like to add "Edgy shows" to the list please. Akame ga kill, Tokio Ghoul, you know, the usual suspects. They're teenager fodder and I think they hurt the image, as it makes anime look inmature, which is different than saying "is for kids". Lool oh please, you mean the mainstream audience that love mindless action shows like transformers, hell boy, the terminator, kill bill, ect? If you haven't realise your type of audience is in the minority, the mainstream audience would eat up these edgy series if they actually sit down and watch them, because gore/sex sells. I would rather those edgy series to represent the face of anime than those moe/pervy anime like rewrite for eg, the story could be really good, but the moe character design and how the characters act childish is so annoying to the point that it distract me from the story. From my experience most non anime watchers either say anime is for kids or anime is made for perverts. Those edgy series most of the times have none of those features that you hear non anime watchers talk from out of their mouth. You're overestimating the mainstream audience to think they know the difference between a mature series and a violent series. Non anime watchers don't believe that anime is violent because all they see is perverted stuff, plus anime is made in Japan one of, if not the most perverted Country in the world, not to mention anime is animated therefore people will automatically assume it's for kids. Yeah, that mainstream audience is soo mature too. Psh, the edgy shows still give anime an inmature facade, and the edgy teenagers swear they are better than "pervy stuff". |
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| most people in the general public think all animes are either about boobs and perverted things or for little children and have no depth. only if shows like attack on titan, death note, and code geas were in the mainstream then would the nations realize the awesomeness of anime!!! |
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| Anime has to deal with a lot of prejudice from general public, because people think anime is either for kids or just perverted. Also most people think animation isn't viable way to tell a mature story (of course not all anime needs to be mature) . |
_Hans_ said: Yep, this is the mindset in my country T_T you can't even watch anime peacefully without being judgedThe simple fact that its animated. They immediately go "durrr animated=cartoon=kids=I'll be judged if i watch kids stuff" Well at least this is the mindset of the "Weeb!" slinging people I come across |
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Friend-B said: I believe that NSFW content in anime is something that most people in the general public is not comfortable with. The public is already being censored to a lot of NSFW sexual content in traditional films and shows so when sexual content is shown in a animated style then many would probably feel extremely uncomfortable. There's plenty of sexuality in movies and TV. Why does anime's sexuality makes people uncomfortable? |
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 This guy. Just kidding, it's because anime is not something you'd expect people to watch. Japanese cartoons. |
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| Sexualized schoolgirls. Seriously, that obsession is really creepy and need to stop. Also, normal schoolgirls don't have such a big boobs. The fact that female idol animes are watched mostly by adult men and not by little girls or teenagers. Lack of josei and adult anime in general (one or two per season vs at least 5 nonsense ecchi titles). |
animezinghayden said: @Kikuchi_love Thank you, I was blasted today for sharing that same opinion, each season there are probably at max 5 good shows and the rest will be about little girls and panty shots or contain little girls and panty shots Glad to see someone with the same opinion! People are saying that sexualization in anime isn't bad but when the most sexy characters in anime are 16y/o schoolgirls who look like 12y/o I think is undoubtedly bad. You can't compare that with the supposed "fanservice for females" whose characters are mostly grown up men. |
Kikuchi_love said: animezinghayden said: @Kikuchi_love Thank you, I was blasted today for sharing that same opinion, each season there are probably at max 5 good shows and the rest will be about little girls and panty shots or contain little girls and panty shots Glad to see someone with the same opinion! People are saying that sexualization in anime isn't bad but when the most sexy characters in anime are 16y/o schoolgirls who look like 12y/o I think is undoubtedly bad. You can't compare that with the supposed "fanservice for females" whose characters are mostly grown up men. let me guess sexualise girls is bad but sexualise guys is not bad? look at all those fujoshit this summer .... anime deserve to have this bad reputation |
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