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Apr 26, 2016 12:15 PM
#251
| Guys, the plot of this anime is "villains don't like heroes, so they attack them". This is supposed to be a simple story with funny characters and good action, there is no reason to rage for every plot hole. |
Apr 26, 2016 12:56 PM
#252
ttcchen said: tsudecimo said: 88 chapters in, there is no time skip. (except the training in episode 3)I3rawler said: Kinda wish this series gets to a point similar to TTGL that Izuku and the others are a lot older and it could be so great (well yeah it's a pretty shounen-like development) - well, maybe in the manga someday! Maybe I should start reading it after this anime ends :D There will be eventually a time skip. Because this is Izuku telling the story how he became a top hero. The author is also a fan of DB and Naruto, so I think it's a safe bet. I said there will be one, didn't say it already happened.. |
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Apr 26, 2016 1:00 PM
#253
kamisama751 said: I understand that is a heroic act but the thing he almost got himself killed being reckless so they scolded him. While in this situations the heroes put them in danger purposely for the exam because they had RECOVERY GIRL nearby to treat injuries. While in the other situation deku would have died if not for all might saving him.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I already said why he got shouted at it's because he put himself in danger. And even the law Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The robot isn't important it just created a situation. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Because during the exam they are have the qualifications to act as it is part of the schools test. But the actual law is different since you have to be qualified.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Which is why they scolded him for putting himself in a dangerous situation.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: It was danger during the exam but recovery girl is on standby and also minor spoiler Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: In episode 2 he was reckless, he had no power, and he couldn't do much besides put himself at risk. While in the exam he rescued someone which is part of the exam and it was no real danger as the heroes had recovery girl so they could go all out during the exam. There is no merit from the big villain but it created a situation where he was able to save someone by chance.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The thing is it's an exam they aren't going to give out all the answers also if the only thing you needed to do was destroy villains it wouldn't make for much of an exam. It was no merit in defeating the large one but it create a situation where he rescued someone from it. Deku proved himself to be a hero in that situation just like he did previously by reacting when no one else would.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: They are heroes. If they are told to rescue others during an exam it defeats the purpose of them aiming to be a hero. And the others are also aiming to be heroes so why would they complain when he has already proven himself to do the hero thing and sacrifice something to save someone else. The rescue points makes sense it's an exam villains are worth points yet the largest is worth 0 it was worth less should have been a hint that they were important for some reason.arms98 said: kamisama751 said: So what is the job of heroes? Protecting the law they made. What have they done? Breaking the own law they made just for the sake of the protagonist. Oh look, there is a special way to surpass it. No one knows and they just throw it in randomly just like failing an exam but you surpass anyway JUST BECAUSE. Plot device 101. If you couldn't tell from Iida foreshadowing UA planned on grading the students based on rescue points from the start. And its not like they broke the rules just for the protagonist. While he did get the most, its not like the other students didn't get rescue points too so you can't write it off as a plot device for the sake of the protagonist. So first you don't tell others that it exists then the protagonist surpasses it due to that.What will others think? He is favored and they made a special rule afterwards for it. Man, you failed at an exam but surpasses "just because" you have learned so hard for it even though you got zero points. Good job. They even explained that defeating it has no merit at the end of episode three. So they are actually lying? It is not any better and also proofs that my point. There is no merit-->destroys it-->passses exam God. First they tells the protagonist not to recue in episode two then they give him the pass in episode four for the same reason which is also done by lying. A heroic act has nothing to do with if ou actually got power or not. They shouted at him for acting like a hero. The same thing happened in episode four and he got praised, which is the exact opposite. He also putted himself at risk (passing the exam) in order to save someone. Also don't forget about the lying. You said it is so because the is no danger in the exam. What does a hero do? Putting himself in danger for others. If there is no danger then you got praised for, if there is then you got shouted at for it. That's how it works, don't save anyone when there is danger. Save whoever you want if there isn't danger and you can pass the exam with zero points because of it. So nope, it doesn't disapprove me. The situation in episode two is also one where he can save someone. God damn it. it's against their law to your power for combat without permission if you are still a student. He hasn't even have a power back then. Then how does that agument support you? I have said that a heroic act has nothing to do with power and they shouted at him for acting heroic. Then they let him pass the exam because of the same reason. (with lying beforehand). The school test says destroying that robot has no merit. So according to the actual law a hero needs a licence? You can't go and protect someone unless you got a licence? Don't protect anyone because you need a f*cking licence even if he might die.  The law is about qualified heroes which students are not. Which is why they are in the school to begin with. He saved the life of hat guy because he got a snap of air. He protected him from dying. Shout at him because he saved a life. All I got from the image are not to use their powers as weapons. But it is self defense/saving lifes and not something for attacking. So it is not used as a weapon and the law is useless in this case. By the way, the main character haven't even got a power back then so the law is furthermore useless and don't support your perspective. Don't say he got shouted at because he has no power since we will only go in circles with this. doesn't let you use your power to hurt others even if it is to protect others and self defense. You have to be a qualified hero The law doesn't apply to him because he hasn't a power back then so he also don't need a f*cking licence. They shouted at him even though he acted heroic (which has nothing to do with power). Then let him pass because of the same reason with lying beforehand. The heroes can't do anything (as you can see) and even they are just standing there. He is acting 100% heroic and safed a life, which no one at that situation could (that person got a breath of air). He is also not reckless since you can see him using proper tactic. ZomiNimrod said: Fai said: everything in this, be it cinematography or characterization is just so...anime "wow this anime looks like an anime it sucks. 0/10" That's literally how you sound. I think that peron is saying that the show is generic. If the law doesn't matter then why do you mention it in the first place? He put himelf into a dangerous situation because he is going to safe someone. That is a heroic act. He is not recklesss because he used proper tactic. If he doesn't do that then that blonde guy is already dead due to lack of oxygen. He saved a life! Then they scold him and also lets him pass the exam because of the same reason. |
Apr 26, 2016 3:57 PM
#254
kamisama751 said: Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I already said why he got shouted at it's because he put himself in danger. And even the law Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The robot isn't important it just created a situation. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Because during the exam they are have the qualifications to act as it is part of the schools test. But the actual law is different since you have to be qualified.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Which is why they scolded him for putting himself in a dangerous situation.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: It was danger during the exam but recovery girl is on standby and also minor spoiler Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: In episode 2 he was reckless, he had no power, and he couldn't do much besides put himself at risk. While in the exam he rescued someone which is part of the exam and it was no real danger as the heroes had recovery girl so they could go all out during the exam. There is no merit from the big villain but it created a situation where he was able to save someone by chance.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The thing is it's an exam they aren't going to give out all the answers also if the only thing you needed to do was destroy villains it wouldn't make for much of an exam. It was no merit in defeating the large one but it create a situation where he rescued someone from it. Deku proved himself to be a hero in that situation just like he did previously by reacting when no one else would.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: They are heroes. If they are told to rescue others during an exam it defeats the purpose of them aiming to be a hero. And the others are also aiming to be heroes so why would they complain when he has already proven himself to do the hero thing and sacrifice something to save someone else. The rescue points makes sense it's an exam villains are worth points yet the largest is worth 0 it was worth less should have been a hint that they were important for some reason.arms98 said: kamisama751 said: So what is the job of heroes? Protecting the law they made. What have they done? Breaking the own law they made just for the sake of the protagonist. Oh look, there is a special way to surpass it. No one knows and they just throw it in randomly just like failing an exam but you surpass anyway JUST BECAUSE. Plot device 101. If you couldn't tell from Iida foreshadowing UA planned on grading the students based on rescue points from the start. And its not like they broke the rules just for the protagonist. While he did get the most, its not like the other students didn't get rescue points too so you can't write it off as a plot device for the sake of the protagonist. So first you don't tell others that it exists then the protagonist surpasses it due to that.What will others think? He is favored and they made a special rule afterwards for it. Man, you failed at an exam but surpasses "just because" you have learned so hard for it even though you got zero points. Good job. They even explained that defeating it has no merit at the end of episode three. So they are actually lying? It is not any better and also proofs that my point. There is no merit-->destroys it-->passses exam God. First they tells the protagonist not to recue in episode two then they give him the pass in episode four for the same reason which is also done by lying. A heroic act has nothing to do with if ou actually got power or not. They shouted at him for acting like a hero. The same thing happened in episode four and he got praised, which is the exact opposite. He also putted himself at risk (passing the exam) in order to save someone. Also don't forget about the lying. You said it is so because the is no danger in the exam. What does a hero do? Putting himself in danger for others. If there is no danger then you got praised for, if there is then you got shouted at for it. That's how it works, don't save anyone when there is danger. Save whoever you want if there isn't danger and you can pass the exam with zero points because of it. So nope, it doesn't disapprove me. The situation in episode two is also one where he can save someone. God damn it. it's against their law to your power for combat without permission if you are still a student. He hasn't even have a power back then. Then how does that agument support you? I have said that a heroic act has nothing to do with power and they shouted at him for acting heroic. Then they let him pass the exam because of the same reason. (with lying beforehand). The school test says destroying that robot has no merit. So according to the actual law a hero needs a licence? You can't go and protect someone unless you got a licence? Don't protect anyone because you need a f*cking licence even if he might die. The law is about qualified heroes which students are not. Which is why they are in the school to begin with. He saved the life of hat guy because he got a snap of air. He protected him from dying. Shout at him because he saved a life. All I got from the image are not to use their powers as weapons. But it is self defense/saving lifes and not something for attacking. So it is not used as a weapon and the law is useless in this case. By the way, the main character haven't even got a power back then so the law is furthermore useless and don't support your perspective. Don't say he got shouted at because he has no power since we will only go in circles with this. doesn't let you use your power to hurt others even if it is to protect others and self defense. You have to be a qualified hero The law doesn't apply to him because he hasn't a power back then so he also don't need a f*cking licence. They shouted at him even though he acted heroic (which has nothing to do with power). Then let him pass because of the same reason with lying beforehand. The heroes can't do anything (as you can see) and even they are just standing there. He is acting 100% heroic and safed a life, which no one at that situation could (that person got a breath of air). He is also not reckless since you can see him using proper tactic. ZomiNimrod said: Fai said: everything in this, be it cinematography or characterization is just so...anime "wow this anime looks like an anime it sucks. 0/10" That's literally how you sound. I think that peron is saying that the show is generic. If the law doesn't matter then why do you mention it in the first place? He put himelf into a dangerous situation because he is going to safe someone. That is a heroic act. He is not recklesss because he used proper tactic. If he doesn't do that then that blonde guy is already dead due to lack of oxygen. He saved a life! Then they scold him and also lets him pass the exam because of the same reason. There's a fundamental difference between the acts in episode 2 and episode 4. In episode 2 he's a random kid with no quirk rushing to the scene of the crime, you can't say its not reckless because he used proper tactics. He's not batman he just threw his backpack at him hoping for the best. He was admonished because he, as a by standard, put his life on the line when this city already has an organized network of heroes to deal with crime. As one of the hereos shouted, he could have easily died in vain which is good for no one. In episode 4 he's no longer a by standard, he's a candidate being tested to become a hero. He was praised for his actions here because as All Might said and executed himself in episode 2, putting your life on the line to save others is a part of the job. So its pretty understandable that Midoryia was able to pass the exam by doing what he did. And i don't know why your so hung up about the rescue points thing, its not that the examiners were lying they just didn't tell them the whole truth, which is perfectly acceptable when you're attempting to test someone in a live situation. |
| Q: The world won't change, you must change yourself in this world. Now, how will you change yourself? A: Become the god of the new world. |
Apr 26, 2016 4:46 PM
#255
| Why don't people understand that Deku being a crybaby is all part of the character development? I was hoping to see more of Katsuki's powers For me it was a great episode. Predictable but enjoyable. The pacing is kinda slow but i like it. |
SergeantCortezApr 26, 2016 5:04 PM
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Apr 26, 2016 6:28 PM
#256
kamisama751 said: Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I already said why he got shouted at it's because he put himself in danger. And even the law Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The robot isn't important it just created a situation. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Because during the exam they are have the qualifications to act as it is part of the schools test. But the actual law is different since you have to be qualified.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Which is why they scolded him for putting himself in a dangerous situation.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: It was danger during the exam but recovery girl is on standby and also minor spoiler Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: In episode 2 he was reckless, he had no power, and he couldn't do much besides put himself at risk. While in the exam he rescued someone which is part of the exam and it was no real danger as the heroes had recovery girl so they could go all out during the exam. There is no merit from the big villain but it created a situation where he was able to save someone by chance.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The thing is it's an exam they aren't going to give out all the answers also if the only thing you needed to do was destroy villains it wouldn't make for much of an exam. It was no merit in defeating the large one but it create a situation where he rescued someone from it. Deku proved himself to be a hero in that situation just like he did previously by reacting when no one else would.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: They are heroes. If they are told to rescue others during an exam it defeats the purpose of them aiming to be a hero. And the others are also aiming to be heroes so why would they complain when he has already proven himself to do the hero thing and sacrifice something to save someone else. The rescue points makes sense it's an exam villains are worth points yet the largest is worth 0 it was worth less should have been a hint that they were important for some reason.arms98 said: kamisama751 said: So what is the job of heroes? Protecting the law they made. What have they done? Breaking the own law they made just for the sake of the protagonist. Oh look, there is a special way to surpass it. No one knows and they just throw it in randomly just like failing an exam but you surpass anyway JUST BECAUSE. Plot device 101. If you couldn't tell from Iida foreshadowing UA planned on grading the students based on rescue points from the start. And its not like they broke the rules just for the protagonist. While he did get the most, its not like the other students didn't get rescue points too so you can't write it off as a plot device for the sake of the protagonist. So first you don't tell others that it exists then the protagonist surpasses it due to that.What will others think? He is favored and they made a special rule afterwards for it. Man, you failed at an exam but surpasses "just because" you have learned so hard for it even though you got zero points. Good job. They even explained that defeating it has no merit at the end of episode three. So they are actually lying? It is not any better and also proofs that my point. There is no merit-->destroys it-->passses exam God. First they tells the protagonist not to recue in episode two then they give him the pass in episode four for the same reason which is also done by lying. A heroic act has nothing to do with if ou actually got power or not. They shouted at him for acting like a hero. The same thing happened in episode four and he got praised, which is the exact opposite. He also putted himself at risk (passing the exam) in order to save someone. Also don't forget about the lying. You said it is so because the is no danger in the exam. What does a hero do? Putting himself in danger for others. If there is no danger then you got praised for, if there is then you got shouted at for it. That's how it works, don't save anyone when there is danger. Save whoever you want if there isn't danger and you can pass the exam with zero points because of it. So nope, it doesn't disapprove me. The situation in episode two is also one where he can save someone. God damn it. it's against their law to your power for combat without permission if you are still a student. He hasn't even have a power back then. Then how does that agument support you? I have said that a heroic act has nothing to do with power and they shouted at him for acting heroic. Then they let him pass the exam because of the same reason. (with lying beforehand). The school test says destroying that robot has no merit. So according to the actual law a hero needs a licence? You can't go and protect someone unless you got a licence? Don't protect anyone because you need a f*cking licence even if he might die. The law is about qualified heroes which students are not. Which is why they are in the school to begin with. He saved the life of hat guy because he got a snap of air. He protected him from dying. Shout at him because he saved a life. All I got from the image are not to use their powers as weapons. But it is self defense/saving lifes and not something for attacking. So it is not used as a weapon and the law is useless in this case. By the way, the main character haven't even got a power back then so the law is furthermore useless and don't support your perspective. Don't say he got shouted at because he has no power since we will only go in circles with this. doesn't let you use your power to hurt others even if it is to protect others and self defense. You have to be a qualified hero The law doesn't apply to him because he hasn't a power back then so he also don't need a f*cking licence. They shouted at him even though he acted heroic (which has nothing to do with power). Then let him pass because of the same reason with lying beforehand. The heroes can't do anything (as you can see) and even they are just standing there. He is acting 100% heroic and safed a life, which no one at that situation could (that person got a breath of air). He is also not reckless since you can see him using proper tactic. ZomiNimrod said: Fai said: everything in this, be it cinematography or characterization is just so...anime "wow this anime looks like an anime it sucks. 0/10" That's literally how you sound. I think that peron is saying that the show is generic. If the law doesn't matter then why do you mention it in the first place? He put himelf into a dangerous situation because he is going to safe someone. That is a heroic act. He is not recklesss because he used proper tactic. If he doesn't do that then that blonde guy is already dead due to lack of oxygen. He saved a life! Then they scold him and also lets him pass the exam because of the same reason. Why does this matter to you so much? It almost seems like you're trying to stir up a shit storm for no reason tbh. |
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Apr 26, 2016 7:55 PM
#257
tsudecimo said: ttcchen said: tsudecimo said: I3rawler said: Kinda wish this series gets to a point similar to TTGL that Izuku and the others are a lot older and it could be so great (well yeah it's a pretty shounen-like development) - well, maybe in the manga someday! Maybe I should start reading it after this anime ends :D There will be eventually a time skip. Because this is Izuku telling the story how he became a top hero. The author is also a fan of DB and Naruto, so I think it's a safe bet. I said there will be one, didn't say it already happened.. hopefully there will be one. I want to see a izuku with less round eyes...and a more mature, less scowling bakugou |
Apr 26, 2016 9:44 PM
#258
Mascera said:  It's okay to be nervous, Deku. You can do it. So the "Test" and 0 Point Robot is also for observing Hero's "Merit". Seeing Deku's body after doing that super punch is somehow... creepy. And everybody's try to make a second thought about Deku, this should be a good start. And that final result... Damn it, can't even watch it without tears ryukan said: that ending was tooooooooo emotional, i almost cried @_@ it gave me chills this anime is amazing yep cried alot, Great ep!  |
Apr 26, 2016 10:04 PM
#259
kamisama751 said: He was scolded for doing something dangerous even if he did save someone. However during the exam was different just because Recovery Girl was around for the exam to be a bit dangerous.FastnessofWheels said: kamisama751 said: Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: What part of the law isn't the problem he didn't do anything that got him in trouble he was lectured for putting himself in a dangerous situation. Not because he did something bad but because what he did was reckless and dangerous. Because if All Might didn't save him he would have possibly died.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I already said why he got shouted at it's because he put himself in danger. And even the law Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The robot isn't important it just created a situation. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Because during the exam they are have the qualifications to act as it is part of the schools test. But the actual law is different since you have to be qualified.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Which is why they scolded him for putting himself in a dangerous situation.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: It was danger during the exam but recovery girl is on standby and also minor spoiler Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: In episode 2 he was reckless, he had no power, and he couldn't do much besides put himself at risk. While in the exam he rescued someone which is part of the exam and it was no real danger as the heroes had recovery girl so they could go all out during the exam. There is no merit from the big villain but it created a situation where he was able to save someone by chance.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The thing is it's an exam they aren't going to give out all the answers also if the only thing you needed to do was destroy villains it wouldn't make for much of an exam. It was no merit in defeating the large one but it create a situation where he rescued someone from it. Deku proved himself to be a hero in that situation just like he did previously by reacting when no one else would.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: They are heroes. If they are told to rescue others during an exam it defeats the purpose of them aiming to be a hero. And the others are also aiming to be heroes so why would they complain when he has already proven himself to do the hero thing and sacrifice something to save someone else. The rescue points makes sense it's an exam villains are worth points yet the largest is worth 0 it was worth less should have been a hint that they were important for some reason.arms98 said: kamisama751 said: So what is the job of heroes? Protecting the law they made. What have they done? Breaking the own law they made just for the sake of the protagonist. Oh look, there is a special way to surpass it. No one knows and they just throw it in randomly just like failing an exam but you surpass anyway JUST BECAUSE. Plot device 101. If you couldn't tell from Iida foreshadowing UA planned on grading the students based on rescue points from the start. And its not like they broke the rules just for the protagonist. While he did get the most, its not like the other students didn't get rescue points too so you can't write it off as a plot device for the sake of the protagonist. So first you don't tell others that it exists then the protagonist surpasses it due to that.What will others think? He is favored and they made a special rule afterwards for it. Man, you failed at an exam but surpasses "just because" you have learned so hard for it even though you got zero points. Good job. They even explained that defeating it has no merit at the end of episode three. So they are actually lying? It is not any better and also proofs that my point. There is no merit-->destroys it-->passses exam God. First they tells the protagonist not to recue in episode two then they give him the pass in episode four for the same reason which is also done by lying. A heroic act has nothing to do with if ou actually got power or not. They shouted at him for acting like a hero. The same thing happened in episode four and he got praised, which is the exact opposite. He also putted himself at risk (passing the exam) in order to save someone. Also don't forget about the lying. You said it is so because the is no danger in the exam. What does a hero do? Putting himself in danger for others. If there is no danger then you got praised for, if there is then you got shouted at for it. That's how it works, don't save anyone when there is danger. Save whoever you want if there isn't danger and you can pass the exam with zero points because of it. So nope, it doesn't disapprove me. The situation in episode two is also one where he can save someone. God damn it. it's against their law to your power for combat without permission if you are still a student. He hasn't even have a power back then. Then how does that agument support you? I have said that a heroic act has nothing to do with power and they shouted at him for acting heroic. Then they let him pass the exam because of the same reason. (with lying beforehand). The school test says destroying that robot has no merit. So according to the actual law a hero needs a licence? You can't go and protect someone unless you got a licence? Don't protect anyone because you need a f*cking licence even if he might die. The law is about qualified heroes which students are not. Which is why they are in the school to begin with. He saved the life of hat guy because he got a snap of air. He protected him from dying. Shout at him because he saved a life. All I got from the image are not to use their powers as weapons. But it is self defense/saving lifes and not something for attacking. So it is not used as a weapon and the law is useless in this case. By the way, the main character haven't even got a power back then so the law is furthermore useless and don't support your perspective. Don't say he got shouted at because he has no power since we will only go in circles with this. doesn't let you use your power to hurt others even if it is to protect others and self defense. You have to be a qualified hero The law doesn't apply to him because he hasn't a power back then so he also don't need a f*cking licence. They shouted at him even though he acted heroic (which has nothing to do with power). Then let him pass because of the same reason with lying beforehand. The heroes can't do anything (as you can see) and even they are just standing there. He is acting 100% heroic and safed a life, which no one at that situation could (that person got a breath of air). He is also not reckless since you can see him using proper tactic. ZomiNimrod said: Fai said: everything in this, be it cinematography or characterization is just so...anime "wow this anime looks like an anime it sucks. 0/10" That's literally how you sound. I think that peron is saying that the show is generic. If the law doesn't matter then why do you mention it in the first place? He put himelf into a dangerous situation because he is going to safe someone. That is a heroic act. He is not recklesss because he used proper tactic. If he doesn't do that then that blonde guy is already dead due to lack of oxygen. He saved a life! Then they scold him and also lets him pass the exam because of the same reason. Why does this matter to you so much? It almost seems like you're trying to stir up a shit storm for no reason tbh. This is a discussion thread and I am discussing. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: What part of the law isn't the problem he didn't do anything that got him in trouble he was lectured for putting himself in a dangerous situation. Not because he did something bad but because what he did was reckless and dangerous. Because if All Might didn't save him he would have possibly died.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I already said why he got shouted at it's because he put himself in danger. And even the law Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The robot isn't important it just created a situation. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Because during the exam they are have the qualifications to act as it is part of the schools test. But the actual law is different since you have to be qualified.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Which is why they scolded him for putting himself in a dangerous situation.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: It was danger during the exam but recovery girl is on standby and also minor spoiler Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: In episode 2 he was reckless, he had no power, and he couldn't do much besides put himself at risk. While in the exam he rescued someone which is part of the exam and it was no real danger as the heroes had recovery girl so they could go all out during the exam. There is no merit from the big villain but it created a situation where he was able to save someone by chance.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The thing is it's an exam they aren't going to give out all the answers also if the only thing you needed to do was destroy villains it wouldn't make for much of an exam. It was no merit in defeating the large one but it create a situation where he rescued someone from it. Deku proved himself to be a hero in that situation just like he did previously by reacting when no one else would.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: They are heroes. If they are told to rescue others during an exam it defeats the purpose of them aiming to be a hero. And the others are also aiming to be heroes so why would they complain when he has already proven himself to do the hero thing and sacrifice something to save someone else. The rescue points makes sense it's an exam villains are worth points yet the largest is worth 0 it was worth less should have been a hint that they were important for some reason.arms98 said: kamisama751 said: So what is the job of heroes? Protecting the law they made. What have they done? Breaking the own law they made just for the sake of the protagonist. Oh look, there is a special way to surpass it. No one knows and they just throw it in randomly just like failing an exam but you surpass anyway JUST BECAUSE. Plot device 101. If you couldn't tell from Iida foreshadowing UA planned on grading the students based on rescue points from the start. And its not like they broke the rules just for the protagonist. While he did get the most, its not like the other students didn't get rescue points too so you can't write it off as a plot device for the sake of the protagonist. So first you don't tell others that it exists then the protagonist surpasses it due to that.What will others think? He is favored and they made a special rule afterwards for it. Man, you failed at an exam but surpasses "just because" you have learned so hard for it even though you got zero points. Good job. They even explained that defeating it has no merit at the end of episode three. So they are actually lying? It is not any better and also proofs that my point. There is no merit-->destroys it-->passses exam God. First they tells the protagonist not to recue in episode two then they give him the pass in episode four for the same reason which is also done by lying. A heroic act has nothing to do with if ou actually got power or not. They shouted at him for acting like a hero. The same thing happened in episode four and he got praised, which is the exact opposite. He also putted himself at risk (passing the exam) in order to save someone. Also don't forget about the lying. You said it is so because the is no danger in the exam. What does a hero do? Putting himself in danger for others. If there is no danger then you got praised for, if there is then you got shouted at for it. That's how it works, don't save anyone when there is danger. Save whoever you want if there isn't danger and you can pass the exam with zero points because of it. So nope, it doesn't disapprove me. The situation in episode two is also one where he can save someone. God damn it. it's against their law to your power for combat without permission if you are still a student. He hasn't even have a power back then. Then how does that agument support you? I have said that a heroic act has nothing to do with power and they shouted at him for acting heroic. Then they let him pass the exam because of the same reason. (with lying beforehand). The school test says destroying that robot has no merit. So according to the actual law a hero needs a licence? You can't go and protect someone unless you got a licence? Don't protect anyone because you need a f*cking licence even if he might die. The law is about qualified heroes which students are not. Which is why they are in the school to begin with. He saved the life of hat guy because he got a snap of air. He protected him from dying. Shout at him because he saved a life. All I got from the image are not to use their powers as weapons. But it is self defense/saving lifes and not something for attacking. So it is not used as a weapon and the law is useless in this case. By the way, the main character haven't even got a power back then so the law is furthermore useless and don't support your perspective. Don't say he got shouted at because he has no power since we will only go in circles with this. doesn't let you use your power to hurt others even if it is to protect others and self defense. You have to be a qualified hero The law doesn't apply to him because he hasn't a power back then so he also don't need a f*cking licence. They shouted at him even though he acted heroic (which has nothing to do with power). Then let him pass because of the same reason with lying beforehand. The heroes can't do anything (as you can see) and even they are just standing there. He is acting 100% heroic and safed a life, which no one at that situation could (that person got a breath of air). He is also not reckless since you can see him using proper tactic. ZomiNimrod said: Fai said: everything in this, be it cinematography or characterization is just so...anime "wow this anime looks like an anime it sucks. 0/10" That's literally how you sound. I think that peron is saying that the show is generic. If the law doesn't matter then why do you mention it in the first place? He put himelf into a dangerous situation because he is going to safe someone. That is a heroic act. He is not recklesss because he used proper tactic. If he doesn't do that then that blonde guy is already dead due to lack of oxygen. He saved a life! Then they scold him and also lets him pass the exam because of the same reason. I have also told you that he is the only person there that cold have saved the blond boy's life and he did it. Then they still scold him! Even if he put himselves in danger, no one (not event he heroes there) could have saved that boy besides him. He got scolded because he saved a life. My original statement isn't even the recue. God, how have we come to this. arms98 said: kamisama751 said: Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: What part of the law isn't the problem he didn't do anything that got him in trouble he was lectured for putting himself in a dangerous situation. Not because he did something bad but because what he did was reckless and dangerous. Because if All Might didn't save him he would have possibly died.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I already said why he got shouted at it's because he put himself in danger. And even the law Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The robot isn't important it just created a situation. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Because during the exam they are have the qualifications to act as it is part of the schools test. But the actual law is different since you have to be qualified.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Which is why they scolded him for putting himself in a dangerous situation.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: It was danger during the exam but recovery girl is on standby and also minor spoiler Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: In episode 2 he was reckless, he had no power, and he couldn't do much besides put himself at risk. While in the exam he rescued someone which is part of the exam and it was no real danger as the heroes had recovery girl so they could go all out during the exam. There is no merit from the big villain but it created a situation where he was able to save someone by chance.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The thing is it's an exam they aren't going to give out all the answers also if the only thing you needed to do was destroy villains it wouldn't make for much of an exam. It was no merit in defeating the large one but it create a situation where he rescued someone from it. Deku proved himself to be a hero in that situation just like he did previously by reacting when no one else would.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: They are heroes. If they are told to rescue others during an exam it defeats the purpose of them aiming to be a hero. And the others are also aiming to be heroes so why would they complain when he has already proven himself to do the hero thing and sacrifice something to save someone else. The rescue points makes sense it's an exam villains are worth points yet the largest is worth 0 it was worth less should have been a hint that they were important for some reason.arms98 said: kamisama751 said: So what is the job of heroes? Protecting the law they made. What have they done? Breaking the own law they made just for the sake of the protagonist. Oh look, there is a special way to surpass it. No one knows and they just throw it in randomly just like failing an exam but you surpass anyway JUST BECAUSE. Plot device 101. If you couldn't tell from Iida foreshadowing UA planned on grading the students based on rescue points from the start. And its not like they broke the rules just for the protagonist. While he did get the most, its not like the other students didn't get rescue points too so you can't write it off as a plot device for the sake of the protagonist. So first you don't tell others that it exists then the protagonist surpasses it due to that.What will others think? He is favored and they made a special rule afterwards for it. Man, you failed at an exam but surpasses "just because" you have learned so hard for it even though you got zero points. Good job. They even explained that defeating it has no merit at the end of episode three. So they are actually lying? It is not any better and also proofs that my point. There is no merit-->destroys it-->passses exam God. First they tells the protagonist not to recue in episode two then they give him the pass in episode four for the same reason which is also done by lying. A heroic act has nothing to do with if ou actually got power or not. They shouted at him for acting like a hero. The same thing happened in episode four and he got praised, which is the exact opposite. He also putted himself at risk (passing the exam) in order to save someone. Also don't forget about the lying. You said it is so because the is no danger in the exam. What does a hero do? Putting himself in danger for others. If there is no danger then you got praised for, if there is then you got shouted at for it. That's how it works, don't save anyone when there is danger. Save whoever you want if there isn't danger and you can pass the exam with zero points because of it. So nope, it doesn't disapprove me. The situation in episode two is also one where he can save someone. God damn it. it's against their law to your power for combat without permission if you are still a student. He hasn't even have a power back then. Then how does that agument support you? I have said that a heroic act has nothing to do with power and they shouted at him for acting heroic. Then they let him pass the exam because of the same reason. (with lying beforehand). The school test says destroying that robot has no merit. So according to the actual law a hero needs a licence? You can't go and protect someone unless you got a licence? Don't protect anyone because you need a f*cking licence even if he might die. The law is about qualified heroes which students are not. Which is why they are in the school to begin with. He saved the life of hat guy because he got a snap of air. He protected him from dying. Shout at him because he saved a life. All I got from the image are not to use their powers as weapons. But it is self defense/saving lifes and not something for attacking. So it is not used as a weapon and the law is useless in this case. By the way, the main character haven't even got a power back then so the law is furthermore useless and don't support your perspective. Don't say he got shouted at because he has no power since we will only go in circles with this. doesn't let you use your power to hurt others even if it is to protect others and self defense. You have to be a qualified hero The law doesn't apply to him because he hasn't a power back then so he also don't need a f*cking licence. They shouted at him even though he acted heroic (which has nothing to do with power). Then let him pass because of the same reason with lying beforehand. The heroes can't do anything (as you can see) and even they are just standing there. He is acting 100% heroic and safed a life, which no one at that situation could (that person got a breath of air). He is also not reckless since you can see him using proper tactic. ZomiNimrod said: Fai said: everything in this, be it cinematography or characterization is just so...anime "wow this anime looks like an anime it sucks. 0/10" That's literally how you sound. I think that peron is saying that the show is generic. If the law doesn't matter then why do you mention it in the first place? He put himelf into a dangerous situation because he is going to safe someone. That is a heroic act. He is not recklesss because he used proper tactic. If he doesn't do that then that blonde guy is already dead due to lack of oxygen. He saved a life! Then they scold him and also lets him pass the exam because of the same reason. There's a fundamental difference between the acts in episode 2 and episode 4. In episode 2 he's a random kid with no quirk rushing to the scene of the crime, you can't say its not reckless because he used proper tactics. He's not batman he just threw his backpack at him hoping for the best. He was admonished because he, as a by standard, put his life on the line when this city already has an organized network of heroes to deal with crime. As one of the hereos shouted, he could have easily died in vain which is good for no one. In episode 4 he's no longer a by standard, he's a candidate being tested to become a hero. He was praised for his actions here because as All Might said and executed himself in episode 2, putting your life on the line to save others is a part of the job. So its pretty understandable that Midoryia was able to pass the exam by doing what he did. And i don't know why your so hung up about the rescue points thing, its not that the examiners were lying they just didn't tell them the whole truth, which is perfectly acceptable when you're attempting to test someone in a live situation. So saving a life only you could at that time is something to be scolded at. If he is reckless in episode two then he is also in episode four because his right arm and legs broke and nearly died due to the falling (and so much about the exam safety). It is not understandable that he passed it. There is no rule where they say "saving someone" or "destroying the robot" equals passing. They even lyed on that. It is something they come up afterwards which is actually against their own rule. He executed heroic acts both in ep2 and 4 (and successed) but the results are different because the plot says so. Wait, why don't we just let that healing hero heal All Might's wound? |
Apr 26, 2016 10:35 PM
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kamisama751 said: The situations are nearly identical but the settings are not. The school is a training ground for those who want to become heroes and will make sure the students are safe meanwhile randomly putting yourself in danger by an actual villain is different.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: FastnessofWheels said: kamisama751 said: Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: What part of the law isn't the problem he didn't do anything that got him in trouble he was lectured for putting himself in a dangerous situation. Not because he did something bad but because what he did was reckless and dangerous. Because if All Might didn't save him he would have possibly died.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I already said why he got shouted at it's because he put himself in danger. And even the law Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The robot isn't important it just created a situation. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Because during the exam they are have the qualifications to act as it is part of the schools test. But the actual law is different since you have to be qualified.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Which is why they scolded him for putting himself in a dangerous situation.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: It was danger during the exam but recovery girl is on standby and also minor spoiler Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: In episode 2 he was reckless, he had no power, and he couldn't do much besides put himself at risk. While in the exam he rescued someone which is part of the exam and it was no real danger as the heroes had recovery girl so they could go all out during the exam. There is no merit from the big villain but it created a situation where he was able to save someone by chance.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The thing is it's an exam they aren't going to give out all the answers also if the only thing you needed to do was destroy villains it wouldn't make for much of an exam. It was no merit in defeating the large one but it create a situation where he rescued someone from it. Deku proved himself to be a hero in that situation just like he did previously by reacting when no one else would.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: They are heroes. If they are told to rescue others during an exam it defeats the purpose of them aiming to be a hero. And the others are also aiming to be heroes so why would they complain when he has already proven himself to do the hero thing and sacrifice something to save someone else. The rescue points makes sense it's an exam villains are worth points yet the largest is worth 0 it was worth less should have been a hint that they were important for some reason.arms98 said: kamisama751 said: So what is the job of heroes? Protecting the law they made. What have they done? Breaking the own law they made just for the sake of the protagonist. Oh look, there is a special way to surpass it. No one knows and they just throw it in randomly just like failing an exam but you surpass anyway JUST BECAUSE. Plot device 101. If you couldn't tell from Iida foreshadowing UA planned on grading the students based on rescue points from the start. And its not like they broke the rules just for the protagonist. While he did get the most, its not like the other students didn't get rescue points too so you can't write it off as a plot device for the sake of the protagonist. So first you don't tell others that it exists then the protagonist surpasses it due to that.What will others think? He is favored and they made a special rule afterwards for it. Man, you failed at an exam but surpasses "just because" you have learned so hard for it even though you got zero points. Good job. They even explained that defeating it has no merit at the end of episode three. So they are actually lying? It is not any better and also proofs that my point. There is no merit-->destroys it-->passses exam God. First they tells the protagonist not to recue in episode two then they give him the pass in episode four for the same reason which is also done by lying. A heroic act has nothing to do with if ou actually got power or not. They shouted at him for acting like a hero. The same thing happened in episode four and he got praised, which is the exact opposite. He also putted himself at risk (passing the exam) in order to save someone. Also don't forget about the lying. You said it is so because the is no danger in the exam. What does a hero do? Putting himself in danger for others. If there is no danger then you got praised for, if there is then you got shouted at for it. That's how it works, don't save anyone when there is danger. Save whoever you want if there isn't danger and you can pass the exam with zero points because of it. So nope, it doesn't disapprove me. The situation in episode two is also one where he can save someone. God damn it. it's against their law to your power for combat without permission if you are still a student. He hasn't even have a power back then. Then how does that agument support you? I have said that a heroic act has nothing to do with power and they shouted at him for acting heroic. Then they let him pass the exam because of the same reason. (with lying beforehand). The school test says destroying that robot has no merit. So according to the actual law a hero needs a licence? You can't go and protect someone unless you got a licence? Don't protect anyone because you need a f*cking licence even if he might die. The law is about qualified heroes which students are not. Which is why they are in the school to begin with. He saved the life of hat guy because he got a snap of air. He protected him from dying. Shout at him because he saved a life. All I got from the image are not to use their powers as weapons. But it is self defense/saving lifes and not something for attacking. So it is not used as a weapon and the law is useless in this case. By the way, the main character haven't even got a power back then so the law is furthermore useless and don't support your perspective. Don't say he got shouted at because he has no power since we will only go in circles with this. doesn't let you use your power to hurt others even if it is to protect others and self defense. You have to be a qualified hero The law doesn't apply to him because he hasn't a power back then so he also don't need a f*cking licence. They shouted at him even though he acted heroic (which has nothing to do with power). Then let him pass because of the same reason with lying beforehand. The heroes can't do anything (as you can see) and even they are just standing there. He is acting 100% heroic and safed a life, which no one at that situation could (that person got a breath of air). He is also not reckless since you can see him using proper tactic. ZomiNimrod said: Fai said: everything in this, be it cinematography or characterization is just so...anime "wow this anime looks like an anime it sucks. 0/10" That's literally how you sound. I think that peron is saying that the show is generic. If the law doesn't matter then why do you mention it in the first place? He put himelf into a dangerous situation because he is going to safe someone. That is a heroic act. He is not recklesss because he used proper tactic. If he doesn't do that then that blonde guy is already dead due to lack of oxygen. He saved a life! Then they scold him and also lets him pass the exam because of the same reason. Why does this matter to you so much? It almost seems like you're trying to stir up a shit storm for no reason tbh. This is a discussion thread and I am discussing. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I understand that is a heroic act but the thing he almost got himself killed being reckless so they scolded him. While in this situations the heroes put them in danger purposely for the exam because they had RECOVERY GIRL nearby to treat injuries. While in the other situation deku would have died if not for all might saving him.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: What part of the law isn't the problem he didn't do anything that got him in trouble he was lectured for putting himself in a dangerous situation. Not because he did something bad but because what he did was reckless and dangerous. Because if All Might didn't save him he would have possibly died.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I already said why he got shouted at it's because he put himself in danger. And even the law Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The robot isn't important it just created a situation. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Because during the exam they are have the qualifications to act as it is part of the schools test. But the actual law is different since you have to be qualified.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Which is why they scolded him for putting himself in a dangerous situation.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: It was danger during the exam but recovery girl is on standby and also minor spoiler Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: In episode 2 he was reckless, he had no power, and he couldn't do much besides put himself at risk. While in the exam he rescued someone which is part of the exam and it was no real danger as the heroes had recovery girl so they could go all out during the exam. There is no merit from the big villain but it created a situation where he was able to save someone by chance.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The thing is it's an exam they aren't going to give out all the answers also if the only thing you needed to do was destroy villains it wouldn't make for much of an exam. It was no merit in defeating the large one but it create a situation where he rescued someone from it. Deku proved himself to be a hero in that situation just like he did previously by reacting when no one else would.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: They are heroes. If they are told to rescue others during an exam it defeats the purpose of them aiming to be a hero. And the others are also aiming to be heroes so why would they complain when he has already proven himself to do the hero thing and sacrifice something to save someone else. The rescue points makes sense it's an exam villains are worth points yet the largest is worth 0 it was worth less should have been a hint that they were important for some reason.arms98 said: kamisama751 said: So what is the job of heroes? Protecting the law they made. What have they done? Breaking the own law they made just for the sake of the protagonist. Oh look, there is a special way to surpass it. No one knows and they just throw it in randomly just like failing an exam but you surpass anyway JUST BECAUSE. Plot device 101. If you couldn't tell from Iida foreshadowing UA planned on grading the students based on rescue points from the start. And its not like they broke the rules just for the protagonist. While he did get the most, its not like the other students didn't get rescue points too so you can't write it off as a plot device for the sake of the protagonist. So first you don't tell others that it exists then the protagonist surpasses it due to that.What will others think? He is favored and they made a special rule afterwards for it. Man, you failed at an exam but surpasses "just because" you have learned so hard for it even though you got zero points. Good job. They even explained that defeating it has no merit at the end of episode three. So they are actually lying? It is not any better and also proofs that my point. There is no merit-->destroys it-->passses exam God. First they tells the protagonist not to recue in episode two then they give him the pass in episode four for the same reason which is also done by lying. A heroic act has nothing to do with if ou actually got power or not. They shouted at him for acting like a hero. The same thing happened in episode four and he got praised, which is the exact opposite. He also putted himself at risk (passing the exam) in order to save someone. Also don't forget about the lying. You said it is so because the is no danger in the exam. What does a hero do? Putting himself in danger for others. If there is no danger then you got praised for, if there is then you got shouted at for it. That's how it works, don't save anyone when there is danger. Save whoever you want if there isn't danger and you can pass the exam with zero points because of it. So nope, it doesn't disapprove me. The situation in episode two is also one where he can save someone. God damn it. it's against their law to your power for combat without permission if you are still a student. He hasn't even have a power back then. Then how does that agument support you? I have said that a heroic act has nothing to do with power and they shouted at him for acting heroic. Then they let him pass the exam because of the same reason. (with lying beforehand). The school test says destroying that robot has no merit. So according to the actual law a hero needs a licence? You can't go and protect someone unless you got a licence? Don't protect anyone because you need a f*cking licence even if he might die. The law is about qualified heroes which students are not. Which is why they are in the school to begin with. He saved the life of hat guy because he got a snap of air. He protected him from dying. Shout at him because he saved a life. All I got from the image are not to use their powers as weapons. But it is self defense/saving lifes and not something for attacking. So it is not used as a weapon and the law is useless in this case. By the way, the main character haven't even got a power back then so the law is furthermore useless and don't support your perspective. Don't say he got shouted at because he has no power since we will only go in circles with this. doesn't let you use your power to hurt others even if it is to protect others and self defense. You have to be a qualified hero The law doesn't apply to him because he hasn't a power back then so he also don't need a f*cking licence. They shouted at him even though he acted heroic (which has nothing to do with power). Then let him pass because of the same reason with lying beforehand. The heroes can't do anything (as you can see) and even they are just standing there. He is acting 100% heroic and safed a life, which no one at that situation could (that person got a breath of air). He is also not reckless since you can see him using proper tactic. ZomiNimrod said: Fai said: everything in this, be it cinematography or characterization is just so...anime "wow this anime looks like an anime it sucks. 0/10" That's literally how you sound. I think that peron is saying that the show is generic. If the law doesn't matter then why do you mention it in the first place? He put himelf into a dangerous situation because he is going to safe someone. That is a heroic act. He is not recklesss because he used proper tactic. If he doesn't do that then that blonde guy is already dead due to lack of oxygen. He saved a life! Then they scold him and also lets him pass the exam because of the same reason. I have also told you that he is the only person there that cold have saved the blond boy's life and he did it. Then they still scold him! Even if he put himselves in danger, no one (not event he heroes there) could have saved that boy besides him. He got scolded because he saved a life. My original statement isn't even the recue. God, how have we come to this. arms98 said: kamisama751 said: Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: What part of the law isn't the problem he didn't do anything that got him in trouble he was lectured for putting himself in a dangerous situation. Not because he did something bad but because what he did was reckless and dangerous. Because if All Might didn't save him he would have possibly died.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I already said why he got shouted at it's because he put himself in danger. And even the law Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The robot isn't important it just created a situation. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Because during the exam they are have the qualifications to act as it is part of the schools test. But the actual law is different since you have to be qualified.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Which is why they scolded him for putting himself in a dangerous situation.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: It was danger during the exam but recovery girl is on standby and also minor spoiler Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: In episode 2 he was reckless, he had no power, and he couldn't do much besides put himself at risk. While in the exam he rescued someone which is part of the exam and it was no real danger as the heroes had recovery girl so they could go all out during the exam. There is no merit from the big villain but it created a situation where he was able to save someone by chance.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The thing is it's an exam they aren't going to give out all the answers also if the only thing you needed to do was destroy villains it wouldn't make for much of an exam. It was no merit in defeating the large one but it create a situation where he rescued someone from it. Deku proved himself to be a hero in that situation just like he did previously by reacting when no one else would.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: They are heroes. If they are told to rescue others during an exam it defeats the purpose of them aiming to be a hero. And the others are also aiming to be heroes so why would they complain when he has already proven himself to do the hero thing and sacrifice something to save someone else. The rescue points makes sense it's an exam villains are worth points yet the largest is worth 0 it was worth less should have been a hint that they were important for some reason.arms98 said: kamisama751 said: So what is the job of heroes? Protecting the law they made. What have they done? Breaking the own law they made just for the sake of the protagonist. Oh look, there is a special way to surpass it. No one knows and they just throw it in randomly just like failing an exam but you surpass anyway JUST BECAUSE. Plot device 101. If you couldn't tell from Iida foreshadowing UA planned on grading the students based on rescue points from the start. And its not like they broke the rules just for the protagonist. While he did get the most, its not like the other students didn't get rescue points too so you can't write it off as a plot device for the sake of the protagonist. So first you don't tell others that it exists then the protagonist surpasses it due to that.What will others think? He is favored and they made a special rule afterwards for it. Man, you failed at an exam but surpasses "just because" you have learned so hard for it even though you got zero points. Good job. They even explained that defeating it has no merit at the end of episode three. So they are actually lying? It is not any better and also proofs that my point. There is no merit-->destroys it-->passses exam God. First they tells the protagonist not to recue in episode two then they give him the pass in episode four for the same reason which is also done by lying. A heroic act has nothing to do with if ou actually got power or not. They shouted at him for acting like a hero. The same thing happened in episode four and he got praised, which is the exact opposite. He also putted himself at risk (passing the exam) in order to save someone. Also don't forget about the lying. You said it is so because the is no danger in the exam. What does a hero do? Putting himself in danger for others. If there is no danger then you got praised for, if there is then you got shouted at for it. That's how it works, don't save anyone when there is danger. Save whoever you want if there isn't danger and you can pass the exam with zero points because of it. So nope, it doesn't disapprove me. The situation in episode two is also one where he can save someone. God damn it. it's against their law to your power for combat without permission if you are still a student. He hasn't even have a power back then. Then how does that agument support you? I have said that a heroic act has nothing to do with power and they shouted at him for acting heroic. Then they let him pass the exam because of the same reason. (with lying beforehand). The school test says destroying that robot has no merit. So according to the actual law a hero needs a licence? You can't go and protect someone unless you got a licence? Don't protect anyone because you need a f*cking licence even if he might die. The law is about qualified heroes which students are not. Which is why they are in the school to begin with. He saved the life of hat guy because he got a snap of air. He protected him from dying. Shout at him because he saved a life. All I got from the image are not to use their powers as weapons. But it is self defense/saving lifes and not something for attacking. So it is not used as a weapon and the law is useless in this case. By the way, the main character haven't even got a power back then so the law is furthermore useless and don't support your perspective. Don't say he got shouted at because he has no power since we will only go in circles with this. doesn't let you use your power to hurt others even if it is to protect others and self defense. You have to be a qualified hero The law doesn't apply to him because he hasn't a power back then so he also don't need a f*cking licence. They shouted at him even though he acted heroic (which has nothing to do with power). Then let him pass because of the same reason with lying beforehand. The heroes can't do anything (as you can see) and even they are just standing there. He is acting 100% heroic and safed a life, which no one at that situation could (that person got a breath of air). He is also not reckless since you can see him using proper tactic. ZomiNimrod said: Fai said: everything in this, be it cinematography or characterization is just so...anime "wow this anime looks like an anime it sucks. 0/10" That's literally how you sound. I think that peron is saying that the show is generic. If the law doesn't matter then why do you mention it in the first place? He put himelf into a dangerous situation because he is going to safe someone. That is a heroic act. He is not recklesss because he used proper tactic. If he doesn't do that then that blonde guy is already dead due to lack of oxygen. He saved a life! Then they scold him and also lets him pass the exam because of the same reason. There's a fundamental difference between the acts in episode 2 and episode 4. In episode 2 he's a random kid with no quirk rushing to the scene of the crime, you can't say its not reckless because he used proper tactics. He's not batman he just threw his backpack at him hoping for the best. He was admonished because he, as a by standard, put his life on the line when this city already has an organized network of heroes to deal with crime. As one of the hereos shouted, he could have easily died in vain which is good for no one. In episode 4 he's no longer a by standard, he's a candidate being tested to become a hero. He was praised for his actions here because as All Might said and executed himself in episode 2, putting your life on the line to save others is a part of the job. So its pretty understandable that Midoryia was able to pass the exam by doing what he did. And i don't know why your so hung up about the rescue points thing, its not that the examiners were lying they just didn't tell them the whole truth, which is perfectly acceptable when you're attempting to test someone in a live situation. So saving a life only you could at that time is something to be scolded at. If he is reckless in episode two then he is also in episode four because his right arm and legs broke and nearly died due to the falling (and so much about the exam safety). It is not understandable that he passed it. There is no rule where they say "saving someone" or "destroying the robot" equals passing. They even lyed on that. It is something they come up afterwards which is actually against their own rule. He executed heroic acts both in ep2 and 4 (and successed) but the results are different because the plot says so. Wait, why don't we just let that healing hero heal All Might's wound? A heroic act has nothing to do with who you are. Both situations are dangerous, who knows that that girl is actually there? The main character also got himself nearly killed at the exam. Both situations are identic. The protagonist savd the person in both situations. |
Apr 26, 2016 10:50 PM
#261
Fai said: Olem said: Fai said: So far this feels like I watched the same episode four times. And there's no real feel or hook that would make this feel like it's own thing. Its hard to drop the show halfway but if next episode does not do anything interesting, this is it for me. 2/5 for the episode. I think I recall you saying you were going to drop it on ep 2 or 3 as well. It's sorta been established for a while now that BnHA is full of cliches, it's just a bit more well-executed than that rest, with lots more likable characters. Welp, you should just drop it since you really, really seem to dislike it since you kinda keep repeating what you think of the anime each episode. I could bear the cliches if: - The execution was in anyway good or innovative(it is really really not - everything in this, be it cinematography or characterization is just so...anime and so by the book generic) - if this had a protagonist I did not want to repeatedly punch in the face(and I thought I despised Nardo...). - if this had any sort of interesting hook or mystery or "not as it seems" kind of deal beyond the generic "tryhard underdog" plot of MC. Alas neither is the case. Having cliches in story is okay. Having nothing going for a story except cliches is not. Especially with such an annoying protag. This could have been made by A1 or Pierrot or TOEI, without having a great studio like Bones waste their creative minds and money on this. Just watching your list, all I can say is that you're a lame anime watcher who just enjoys feeling some-kind "superior" for the amount of series you've watched, which doesn't make you a good critic, but just a person who has watched a lot of anime, just that. I don't wanna say It, but you are pretty pathetic indeed. Your reviews are like this: -Oh so generic, fuck you 0/10 -I LIKE THIS, I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT I DO 10/10 MASTERPIECE. You can't expect Ergo Proxy's plot on everything, that's just ridiculous, everything on It's own genre, this is a Shonen, treat It like a Shonen, not like another thing, use your brain and adapt your critic, sorry, the correct words are: Be a true critic. Just, stop. |
Apr 27, 2016 2:42 AM
#262
| I have to admit, I was not expecting Deku to exhibit that much strength. I was surprised. I haven't read the manga yet and I won't for a while because I miss being thrilled by an Anime on its own without being spoiled by the manga. That ending with All Might's hologram button was really touching. Deku really wants to become a hero and for good reason too. |
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Apr 27, 2016 3:32 AM
#263
| I liked the episode ! :D the part where everyone yelled "Lucky" in unison because they realized Deku was part of their group got me so bad. I'm not even sure why, it wasn't even that funny - but I lost it. I thought the episode's pacing was great. Though, I could have done without all those hints- I mean, it just killed the suspense. Especially the new character, the observant one, glasses boy - he was put there as a voice of reason probably but damn he needs to lay off the footnotes. I would have been able to watch the next episode regardless of completing this one. That is, It got bland at the end and I had already guessed the rest off the story 13 minutes in. |
Apr 27, 2016 6:15 AM
#264
kamisama751 said: I understand what you are saying but the difference is he isn't a hero so he shouldn't do something dangerous like that meanwhile at the school they are grooming the students to become heroes so the setting is a bit different.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: He was scolded for doing something dangerous even if he did save someone. However during the exam was different just because Recovery Girl was around for the exam to be a bit dangerous.FastnessofWheels said: kamisama751 said: Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: What part of the law isn't the problem he didn't do anything that got him in trouble he was lectured for putting himself in a dangerous situation. Not because he did something bad but because what he did was reckless and dangerous. Because if All Might didn't save him he would have possibly died.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I already said why he got shouted at it's because he put himself in danger. And even the law Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The robot isn't important it just created a situation. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Because during the exam they are have the qualifications to act as it is part of the schools test. But the actual law is different since you have to be qualified.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Which is why they scolded him for putting himself in a dangerous situation.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: It was danger during the exam but recovery girl is on standby and also minor spoiler Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: In episode 2 he was reckless, he had no power, and he couldn't do much besides put himself at risk. While in the exam he rescued someone which is part of the exam and it was no real danger as the heroes had recovery girl so they could go all out during the exam. There is no merit from the big villain but it created a situation where he was able to save someone by chance.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The thing is it's an exam they aren't going to give out all the answers also if the only thing you needed to do was destroy villains it wouldn't make for much of an exam. It was no merit in defeating the large one but it create a situation where he rescued someone from it. Deku proved himself to be a hero in that situation just like he did previously by reacting when no one else would.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: They are heroes. If they are told to rescue others during an exam it defeats the purpose of them aiming to be a hero. And the others are also aiming to be heroes so why would they complain when he has already proven himself to do the hero thing and sacrifice something to save someone else. The rescue points makes sense it's an exam villains are worth points yet the largest is worth 0 it was worth less should have been a hint that they were important for some reason.arms98 said: kamisama751 said: So what is the job of heroes? Protecting the law they made. What have they done? Breaking the own law they made just for the sake of the protagonist. Oh look, there is a special way to surpass it. No one knows and they just throw it in randomly just like failing an exam but you surpass anyway JUST BECAUSE. Plot device 101. If you couldn't tell from Iida foreshadowing UA planned on grading the students based on rescue points from the start. And its not like they broke the rules just for the protagonist. While he did get the most, its not like the other students didn't get rescue points too so you can't write it off as a plot device for the sake of the protagonist. So first you don't tell others that it exists then the protagonist surpasses it due to that.What will others think? He is favored and they made a special rule afterwards for it. Man, you failed at an exam but surpasses "just because" you have learned so hard for it even though you got zero points. Good job. They even explained that defeating it has no merit at the end of episode three. So they are actually lying? It is not any better and also proofs that my point. There is no merit-->destroys it-->passses exam God. First they tells the protagonist not to recue in episode two then they give him the pass in episode four for the same reason which is also done by lying. A heroic act has nothing to do with if ou actually got power or not. They shouted at him for acting like a hero. The same thing happened in episode four and he got praised, which is the exact opposite. He also putted himself at risk (passing the exam) in order to save someone. Also don't forget about the lying. You said it is so because the is no danger in the exam. What does a hero do? Putting himself in danger for others. If there is no danger then you got praised for, if there is then you got shouted at for it. That's how it works, don't save anyone when there is danger. Save whoever you want if there isn't danger and you can pass the exam with zero points because of it. So nope, it doesn't disapprove me. The situation in episode two is also one where he can save someone. God damn it. it's against their law to your power for combat without permission if you are still a student. He hasn't even have a power back then. Then how does that agument support you? I have said that a heroic act has nothing to do with power and they shouted at him for acting heroic. Then they let him pass the exam because of the same reason. (with lying beforehand). The school test says destroying that robot has no merit. So according to the actual law a hero needs a licence? You can't go and protect someone unless you got a licence? Don't protect anyone because you need a f*cking licence even if he might die. The law is about qualified heroes which students are not. Which is why they are in the school to begin with. He saved the life of hat guy because he got a snap of air. He protected him from dying. Shout at him because he saved a life. All I got from the image are not to use their powers as weapons. But it is self defense/saving lifes and not something for attacking. So it is not used as a weapon and the law is useless in this case. By the way, the main character haven't even got a power back then so the law is furthermore useless and don't support your perspective. Don't say he got shouted at because he has no power since we will only go in circles with this. doesn't let you use your power to hurt others even if it is to protect others and self defense. You have to be a qualified hero The law doesn't apply to him because he hasn't a power back then so he also don't need a f*cking licence. They shouted at him even though he acted heroic (which has nothing to do with power). Then let him pass because of the same reason with lying beforehand. The heroes can't do anything (as you can see) and even they are just standing there. He is acting 100% heroic and safed a life, which no one at that situation could (that person got a breath of air). He is also not reckless since you can see him using proper tactic. ZomiNimrod said: Fai said: everything in this, be it cinematography or characterization is just so...anime "wow this anime looks like an anime it sucks. 0/10" That's literally how you sound. I think that peron is saying that the show is generic. If the law doesn't matter then why do you mention it in the first place? He put himelf into a dangerous situation because he is going to safe someone. That is a heroic act. He is not recklesss because he used proper tactic. If he doesn't do that then that blonde guy is already dead due to lack of oxygen. He saved a life! Then they scold him and also lets him pass the exam because of the same reason. Why does this matter to you so much? It almost seems like you're trying to stir up a shit storm for no reason tbh. This is a discussion thread and I am discussing. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I understand that is a heroic act but the thing he almost got himself killed being reckless so they scolded him. While in this situations the heroes put them in danger purposely for the exam because they had RECOVERY GIRL nearby to treat injuries. While in the other situation deku would have died if not for all might saving him.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: What part of the law isn't the problem he didn't do anything that got him in trouble he was lectured for putting himself in a dangerous situation. Not because he did something bad but because what he did was reckless and dangerous. Because if All Might didn't save him he would have possibly died.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I already said why he got shouted at it's because he put himself in danger. And even the law Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The robot isn't important it just created a situation. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Because during the exam they are have the qualifications to act as it is part of the schools test. But the actual law is different since you have to be qualified.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Which is why they scolded him for putting himself in a dangerous situation.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: It was danger during the exam but recovery girl is on standby and also minor spoiler Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: In episode 2 he was reckless, he had no power, and he couldn't do much besides put himself at risk. While in the exam he rescued someone which is part of the exam and it was no real danger as the heroes had recovery girl so they could go all out during the exam. There is no merit from the big villain but it created a situation where he was able to save someone by chance.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The thing is it's an exam they aren't going to give out all the answers also if the only thing you needed to do was destroy villains it wouldn't make for much of an exam. It was no merit in defeating the large one but it create a situation where he rescued someone from it. Deku proved himself to be a hero in that situation just like he did previously by reacting when no one else would.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: They are heroes. If they are told to rescue others during an exam it defeats the purpose of them aiming to be a hero. And the others are also aiming to be heroes so why would they complain when he has already proven himself to do the hero thing and sacrifice something to save someone else. The rescue points makes sense it's an exam villains are worth points yet the largest is worth 0 it was worth less should have been a hint that they were important for some reason.arms98 said: kamisama751 said: So what is the job of heroes? Protecting the law they made. What have they done? Breaking the own law they made just for the sake of the protagonist. Oh look, there is a special way to surpass it. No one knows and they just throw it in randomly just like failing an exam but you surpass anyway JUST BECAUSE. Plot device 101. If you couldn't tell from Iida foreshadowing UA planned on grading the students based on rescue points from the start. And its not like they broke the rules just for the protagonist. While he did get the most, its not like the other students didn't get rescue points too so you can't write it off as a plot device for the sake of the protagonist. So first you don't tell others that it exists then the protagonist surpasses it due to that.What will others think? He is favored and they made a special rule afterwards for it. Man, you failed at an exam but surpasses "just because" you have learned so hard for it even though you got zero points. Good job. They even explained that defeating it has no merit at the end of episode three. So they are actually lying? It is not any better and also proofs that my point. There is no merit-->destroys it-->passses exam God. First they tells the protagonist not to recue in episode two then they give him the pass in episode four for the same reason which is also done by lying. A heroic act has nothing to do with if ou actually got power or not. They shouted at him for acting like a hero. The same thing happened in episode four and he got praised, which is the exact opposite. He also putted himself at risk (passing the exam) in order to save someone. Also don't forget about the lying. You said it is so because the is no danger in the exam. What does a hero do? Putting himself in danger for others. If there is no danger then you got praised for, if there is then you got shouted at for it. That's how it works, don't save anyone when there is danger. Save whoever you want if there isn't danger and you can pass the exam with zero points because of it. So nope, it doesn't disapprove me. The situation in episode two is also one where he can save someone. God damn it. it's against their law to your power for combat without permission if you are still a student. He hasn't even have a power back then. Then how does that agument support you? I have said that a heroic act has nothing to do with power and they shouted at him for acting heroic. Then they let him pass the exam because of the same reason. (with lying beforehand). The school test says destroying that robot has no merit. So according to the actual law a hero needs a licence? You can't go and protect someone unless you got a licence? Don't protect anyone because you need a f*cking licence even if he might die. The law is about qualified heroes which students are not. Which is why they are in the school to begin with. He saved the life of hat guy because he got a snap of air. He protected him from dying. Shout at him because he saved a life. All I got from the image are not to use their powers as weapons. But it is self defense/saving lifes and not something for attacking. So it is not used as a weapon and the law is useless in this case. By the way, the main character haven't even got a power back then so the law is furthermore useless and don't support your perspective. Don't say he got shouted at because he has no power since we will only go in circles with this. doesn't let you use your power to hurt others even if it is to protect others and self defense. You have to be a qualified hero The law doesn't apply to him because he hasn't a power back then so he also don't need a f*cking licence. They shouted at him even though he acted heroic (which has nothing to do with power). Then let him pass because of the same reason with lying beforehand. The heroes can't do anything (as you can see) and even they are just standing there. He is acting 100% heroic and safed a life, which no one at that situation could (that person got a breath of air). He is also not reckless since you can see him using proper tactic. ZomiNimrod said: Fai said: everything in this, be it cinematography or characterization is just so...anime "wow this anime looks like an anime it sucks. 0/10" That's literally how you sound. I think that peron is saying that the show is generic. If the law doesn't matter then why do you mention it in the first place? He put himelf into a dangerous situation because he is going to safe someone. That is a heroic act. He is not recklesss because he used proper tactic. If he doesn't do that then that blonde guy is already dead due to lack of oxygen. He saved a life! Then they scold him and also lets him pass the exam because of the same reason. I have also told you that he is the only person there that cold have saved the blond boy's life and he did it. Then they still scold him! Even if he put himselves in danger, no one (not event he heroes there) could have saved that boy besides him. He got scolded because he saved a life. My original statement isn't even the recue. God, how have we come to this. arms98 said: kamisama751 said: Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: What part of the law isn't the problem he didn't do anything that got him in trouble he was lectured for putting himself in a dangerous situation. Not because he did something bad but because what he did was reckless and dangerous. Because if All Might didn't save him he would have possibly died.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I already said why he got shouted at it's because he put himself in danger. And even the law Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The robot isn't important it just created a situation. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Because during the exam they are have the qualifications to act as it is part of the schools test. But the actual law is different since you have to be qualified.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Which is why they scolded him for putting himself in a dangerous situation.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: It was danger during the exam but recovery girl is on standby and also minor spoiler Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: In episode 2 he was reckless, he had no power, and he couldn't do much besides put himself at risk. While in the exam he rescued someone which is part of the exam and it was no real danger as the heroes had recovery girl so they could go all out during the exam. There is no merit from the big villain but it created a situation where he was able to save someone by chance.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The thing is it's an exam they aren't going to give out all the answers also if the only thing you needed to do was destroy villains it wouldn't make for much of an exam. It was no merit in defeating the large one but it create a situation where he rescued someone from it. Deku proved himself to be a hero in that situation just like he did previously by reacting when no one else would.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: They are heroes. If they are told to rescue others during an exam it defeats the purpose of them aiming to be a hero. And the others are also aiming to be heroes so why would they complain when he has already proven himself to do the hero thing and sacrifice something to save someone else. The rescue points makes sense it's an exam villains are worth points yet the largest is worth 0 it was worth less should have been a hint that they were important for some reason.arms98 said: kamisama751 said: So what is the job of heroes? Protecting the law they made. What have they done? Breaking the own law they made just for the sake of the protagonist. Oh look, there is a special way to surpass it. No one knows and they just throw it in randomly just like failing an exam but you surpass anyway JUST BECAUSE. Plot device 101. If you couldn't tell from Iida foreshadowing UA planned on grading the students based on rescue points from the start. And its not like they broke the rules just for the protagonist. While he did get the most, its not like the other students didn't get rescue points too so you can't write it off as a plot device for the sake of the protagonist. So first you don't tell others that it exists then the protagonist surpasses it due to that.What will others think? He is favored and they made a special rule afterwards for it. Man, you failed at an exam but surpasses "just because" you have learned so hard for it even though you got zero points. Good job. They even explained that defeating it has no merit at the end of episode three. So they are actually lying? It is not any better and also proofs that my point. There is no merit-->destroys it-->passses exam God. First they tells the protagonist not to recue in episode two then they give him the pass in episode four for the same reason which is also done by lying. A heroic act has nothing to do with if ou actually got power or not. They shouted at him for acting like a hero. The same thing happened in episode four and he got praised, which is the exact opposite. He also putted himself at risk (passing the exam) in order to save someone. Also don't forget about the lying. You said it is so because the is no danger in the exam. What does a hero do? Putting himself in danger for others. If there is no danger then you got praised for, if there is then you got shouted at for it. That's how it works, don't save anyone when there is danger. Save whoever you want if there isn't danger and you can pass the exam with zero points because of it. So nope, it doesn't disapprove me. The situation in episode two is also one where he can save someone. God damn it. it's against their law to your power for combat without permission if you are still a student. He hasn't even have a power back then. Then how does that agument support you? I have said that a heroic act has nothing to do with power and they shouted at him for acting heroic. Then they let him pass the exam because of the same reason. (with lying beforehand). The school test says destroying that robot has no merit. So according to the actual law a hero needs a licence? You can't go and protect someone unless you got a licence? Don't protect anyone because you need a f*cking licence even if he might die. The law is about qualified heroes which students are not. Which is why they are in the school to begin with. He saved the life of hat guy because he got a snap of air. He protected him from dying. Shout at him because he saved a life. All I got from the image are not to use their powers as weapons. But it is self defense/saving lifes and not something for attacking. So it is not used as a weapon and the law is useless in this case. By the way, the main character haven't even got a power back then so the law is furthermore useless and don't support your perspective. Don't say he got shouted at because he has no power since we will only go in circles with this. doesn't let you use your power to hurt others even if it is to protect others and self defense. You have to be a qualified hero The law doesn't apply to him because he hasn't a power back then so he also don't need a f*cking licence. They shouted at him even though he acted heroic (which has nothing to do with power). Then let him pass because of the same reason with lying beforehand. The heroes can't do anything (as you can see) and even they are just standing there. He is acting 100% heroic and safed a life, which no one at that situation could (that person got a breath of air). He is also not reckless since you can see him using proper tactic. ZomiNimrod said: Fai said: everything in this, be it cinematography or characterization is just so...anime "wow this anime looks like an anime it sucks. 0/10" That's literally how you sound. I think that peron is saying that the show is generic. If the law doesn't matter then why do you mention it in the first place? He put himelf into a dangerous situation because he is going to safe someone. That is a heroic act. He is not recklesss because he used proper tactic. If he doesn't do that then that blonde guy is already dead due to lack of oxygen. He saved a life! Then they scold him and also lets him pass the exam because of the same reason. There's a fundamental difference between the acts in episode 2 and episode 4. In episode 2 he's a random kid with no quirk rushing to the scene of the crime, you can't say its not reckless because he used proper tactics. He's not batman he just threw his backpack at him hoping for the best. He was admonished because he, as a by standard, put his life on the line when this city already has an organized network of heroes to deal with crime. As one of the hereos shouted, he could have easily died in vain which is good for no one. In episode 4 he's no longer a by standard, he's a candidate being tested to become a hero. He was praised for his actions here because as All Might said and executed himself in episode 2, putting your life on the line to save others is a part of the job. So its pretty understandable that Midoryia was able to pass the exam by doing what he did. And i don't know why your so hung up about the rescue points thing, its not that the examiners were lying they just didn't tell them the whole truth, which is perfectly acceptable when you're attempting to test someone in a live situation. So saving a life only you could at that time is something to be scolded at. If he is reckless in episode two then he is also in episode four because his right arm and legs broke and nearly died due to the falling (and so much about the exam safety). It is not understandable that he passed it. There is no rule where they say "saving someone" or "destroying the robot" equals passing. They even lyed on that. It is something they come up afterwards which is actually against their own rule. He executed heroic acts both in ep2 and 4 (and successed) but the results are different because the plot says so. Wait, why don't we just let that healing hero heal All Might's wound? A heroic act has nothing to do with who you are. Both situations are dangerous, who knows that that girl is actually there? The main character also got himself nearly killed at the exam. Both situations are identic. The protagonist savd the person in both situations. Where comes randomly when he is clearly saving life and successed. The settings are also the same since the training ground should be simulation of the real, which makes these two situations comlpetely equal. Heroism is when you sacrifice yourself for doing others favor. He is in both situations a hero and got scolded in the first and praised for the latter one, for the sake of plot. |
Apr 27, 2016 6:48 AM
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| Great ep! Finally got my adrenaline pumping and we got to see Deku in action! xD That slap in the face was awesome LOL So happy for Deku for passing the exam! :) and I SHIP THEEEEEEEEEM! woooot ♥ On to ep 5! :D kamisama751 said: Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: He was scolded for doing something dangerous even if he did save someone. However during the exam was different just because Recovery Girl was around for the exam to be a bit dangerous.FastnessofWheels said: kamisama751 said: Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: What part of the law isn't the problem he didn't do anything that got him in trouble he was lectured for putting himself in a dangerous situation. Not because he did something bad but because what he did was reckless and dangerous. Because if All Might didn't save him he would have possibly died.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I already said why he got shouted at it's because he put himself in danger. And even the law Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The robot isn't important it just created a situation. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Because during the exam they are have the qualifications to act as it is part of the schools test. But the actual law is different since you have to be qualified.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Which is why they scolded him for putting himself in a dangerous situation.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: It was danger during the exam but recovery girl is on standby and also minor spoiler Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: In episode 2 he was reckless, he had no power, and he couldn't do much besides put himself at risk. While in the exam he rescued someone which is part of the exam and it was no real danger as the heroes had recovery girl so they could go all out during the exam. There is no merit from the big villain but it created a situation where he was able to save someone by chance.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The thing is it's an exam they aren't going to give out all the answers also if the only thing you needed to do was destroy villains it wouldn't make for much of an exam. It was no merit in defeating the large one but it create a situation where he rescued someone from it. Deku proved himself to be a hero in that situation just like he did previously by reacting when no one else would.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: They are heroes. If they are told to rescue others during an exam it defeats the purpose of them aiming to be a hero. And the others are also aiming to be heroes so why would they complain when he has already proven himself to do the hero thing and sacrifice something to save someone else. The rescue points makes sense it's an exam villains are worth points yet the largest is worth 0 it was worth less should have been a hint that they were important for some reason.arms98 said: kamisama751 said: So what is the job of heroes? Protecting the law they made. What have they done? Breaking the own law they made just for the sake of the protagonist. Oh look, there is a special way to surpass it. No one knows and they just throw it in randomly just like failing an exam but you surpass anyway JUST BECAUSE. Plot device 101. If you couldn't tell from Iida foreshadowing UA planned on grading the students based on rescue points from the start. And its not like they broke the rules just for the protagonist. While he did get the most, its not like the other students didn't get rescue points too so you can't write it off as a plot device for the sake of the protagonist. So first you don't tell others that it exists then the protagonist surpasses it due to that.What will others think? He is favored and they made a special rule afterwards for it. Man, you failed at an exam but surpasses "just because" you have learned so hard for it even though you got zero points. Good job. They even explained that defeating it has no merit at the end of episode three. So they are actually lying? It is not any better and also proofs that my point. There is no merit-->destroys it-->passses exam God. First they tells the protagonist not to recue in episode two then they give him the pass in episode four for the same reason which is also done by lying. A heroic act has nothing to do with if ou actually got power or not. They shouted at him for acting like a hero. The same thing happened in episode four and he got praised, which is the exact opposite. He also putted himself at risk (passing the exam) in order to save someone. Also don't forget about the lying. You said it is so because the is no danger in the exam. What does a hero do? Putting himself in danger for others. If there is no danger then you got praised for, if there is then you got shouted at for it. That's how it works, don't save anyone when there is danger. Save whoever you want if there isn't danger and you can pass the exam with zero points because of it. So nope, it doesn't disapprove me. The situation in episode two is also one where he can save someone. God damn it. it's against their law to your power for combat without permission if you are still a student. He hasn't even have a power back then. Then how does that agument support you? I have said that a heroic act has nothing to do with power and they shouted at him for acting heroic. Then they let him pass the exam because of the same reason. (with lying beforehand). The school test says destroying that robot has no merit. So according to the actual law a hero needs a licence? You can't go and protect someone unless you got a licence? Don't protect anyone because you need a f*cking licence even if he might die. The law is about qualified heroes which students are not. Which is why they are in the school to begin with. He saved the life of hat guy because he got a snap of air. He protected him from dying. Shout at him because he saved a life. All I got from the image are not to use their powers as weapons. But it is self defense/saving lifes and not something for attacking. So it is not used as a weapon and the law is useless in this case. By the way, the main character haven't even got a power back then so the law is furthermore useless and don't support your perspective. Don't say he got shouted at because he has no power since we will only go in circles with this. doesn't let you use your power to hurt others even if it is to protect others and self defense. You have to be a qualified hero The law doesn't apply to him because he hasn't a power back then so he also don't need a f*cking licence. They shouted at him even though he acted heroic (which has nothing to do with power). Then let him pass because of the same reason with lying beforehand. The heroes can't do anything (as you can see) and even they are just standing there. He is acting 100% heroic and safed a life, which no one at that situation could (that person got a breath of air). He is also not reckless since you can see him using proper tactic. ZomiNimrod said: Fai said: everything in this, be it cinematography or characterization is just so...anime "wow this anime looks like an anime it sucks. 0/10" That's literally how you sound. I think that peron is saying that the show is generic. If the law doesn't matter then why do you mention it in the first place? He put himelf into a dangerous situation because he is going to safe someone. That is a heroic act. He is not recklesss because he used proper tactic. If he doesn't do that then that blonde guy is already dead due to lack of oxygen. He saved a life! Then they scold him and also lets him pass the exam because of the same reason. Why does this matter to you so much? It almost seems like you're trying to stir up a shit storm for no reason tbh. This is a discussion thread and I am discussing. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I understand that is a heroic act but the thing he almost got himself killed being reckless so they scolded him. While in this situations the heroes put them in danger purposely for the exam because they had RECOVERY GIRL nearby to treat injuries. While in the other situation deku would have died if not for all might saving him.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: What part of the law isn't the problem he didn't do anything that got him in trouble he was lectured for putting himself in a dangerous situation. Not because he did something bad but because what he did was reckless and dangerous. Because if All Might didn't save him he would have possibly died.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I already said why he got shouted at it's because he put himself in danger. And even the law Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The robot isn't important it just created a situation. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Because during the exam they are have the qualifications to act as it is part of the schools test. But the actual law is different since you have to be qualified.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Which is why they scolded him for putting himself in a dangerous situation.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: It was danger during the exam but recovery girl is on standby and also minor spoiler Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: In episode 2 he was reckless, he had no power, and he couldn't do much besides put himself at risk. While in the exam he rescued someone which is part of the exam and it was no real danger as the heroes had recovery girl so they could go all out during the exam. There is no merit from the big villain but it created a situation where he was able to save someone by chance.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The thing is it's an exam they aren't going to give out all the answers also if the only thing you needed to do was destroy villains it wouldn't make for much of an exam. It was no merit in defeating the large one but it create a situation where he rescued someone from it. Deku proved himself to be a hero in that situation just like he did previously by reacting when no one else would.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: They are heroes. If they are told to rescue others during an exam it defeats the purpose of them aiming to be a hero. And the others are also aiming to be heroes so why would they complain when he has already proven himself to do the hero thing and sacrifice something to save someone else. The rescue points makes sense it's an exam villains are worth points yet the largest is worth 0 it was worth less should have been a hint that they were important for some reason.arms98 said: kamisama751 said: So what is the job of heroes? Protecting the law they made. What have they done? Breaking the own law they made just for the sake of the protagonist. Oh look, there is a special way to surpass it. No one knows and they just throw it in randomly just like failing an exam but you surpass anyway JUST BECAUSE. Plot device 101. If you couldn't tell from Iida foreshadowing UA planned on grading the students based on rescue points from the start. And its not like they broke the rules just for the protagonist. While he did get the most, its not like the other students didn't get rescue points too so you can't write it off as a plot device for the sake of the protagonist. So first you don't tell others that it exists then the protagonist surpasses it due to that.What will others think? He is favored and they made a special rule afterwards for it. Man, you failed at an exam but surpasses "just because" you have learned so hard for it even though you got zero points. Good job. They even explained that defeating it has no merit at the end of episode three. So they are actually lying? It is not any better and also proofs that my point. There is no merit-->destroys it-->passses exam God. First they tells the protagonist not to recue in episode two then they give him the pass in episode four for the same reason which is also done by lying. A heroic act has nothing to do with if ou actually got power or not. They shouted at him for acting like a hero. The same thing happened in episode four and he got praised, which is the exact opposite. He also putted himself at risk (passing the exam) in order to save someone. Also don't forget about the lying. You said it is so because the is no danger in the exam. What does a hero do? Putting himself in danger for others. If there is no danger then you got praised for, if there is then you got shouted at for it. That's how it works, don't save anyone when there is danger. Save whoever you want if there isn't danger and you can pass the exam with zero points because of it. So nope, it doesn't disapprove me. The situation in episode two is also one where he can save someone. God damn it. it's against their law to your power for combat without permission if you are still a student. He hasn't even have a power back then. Then how does that agument support you? I have said that a heroic act has nothing to do with power and they shouted at him for acting heroic. Then they let him pass the exam because of the same reason. (with lying beforehand). The school test says destroying that robot has no merit. So according to the actual law a hero needs a licence? You can't go and protect someone unless you got a licence? Don't protect anyone because you need a f*cking licence even if he might die. The law is about qualified heroes which students are not. Which is why they are in the school to begin with. He saved the life of hat guy because he got a snap of air. He protected him from dying. Shout at him because he saved a life. All I got from the image are not to use their powers as weapons. But it is self defense/saving lifes and not something for attacking. So it is not used as a weapon and the law is useless in this case. By the way, the main character haven't even got a power back then so the law is furthermore useless and don't support your perspective. Don't say he got shouted at because he has no power since we will only go in circles with this. doesn't let you use your power to hurt others even if it is to protect others and self defense. You have to be a qualified hero The law doesn't apply to him because he hasn't a power back then so he also don't need a f*cking licence. They shouted at him even though he acted heroic (which has nothing to do with power). Then let him pass because of the same reason with lying beforehand. The heroes can't do anything (as you can see) and even they are just standing there. He is acting 100% heroic and safed a life, which no one at that situation could (that person got a breath of air). He is also not reckless since you can see him using proper tactic. ZomiNimrod said: Fai said: everything in this, be it cinematography or characterization is just so...anime "wow this anime looks like an anime it sucks. 0/10" That's literally how you sound. I think that peron is saying that the show is generic. If the law doesn't matter then why do you mention it in the first place? He put himelf into a dangerous situation because he is going to safe someone. That is a heroic act. He is not recklesss because he used proper tactic. If he doesn't do that then that blonde guy is already dead due to lack of oxygen. He saved a life! Then they scold him and also lets him pass the exam because of the same reason. I have also told you that he is the only person there that cold have saved the blond boy's life and he did it. Then they still scold him! Even if he put himselves in danger, no one (not event he heroes there) could have saved that boy besides him. He got scolded because he saved a life. My original statement isn't even the recue. God, how have we come to this. arms98 said: kamisama751 said: Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: What part of the law isn't the problem he didn't do anything that got him in trouble he was lectured for putting himself in a dangerous situation. Not because he did something bad but because what he did was reckless and dangerous. Because if All Might didn't save him he would have possibly died.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I already said why he got shouted at it's because he put himself in danger. And even the law Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The robot isn't important it just created a situation. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Because during the exam they are have the qualifications to act as it is part of the schools test. But the actual law is different since you have to be qualified.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Which is why they scolded him for putting himself in a dangerous situation.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: It was danger during the exam but recovery girl is on standby and also minor spoiler Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: In episode 2 he was reckless, he had no power, and he couldn't do much besides put himself at risk. While in the exam he rescued someone which is part of the exam and it was no real danger as the heroes had recovery girl so they could go all out during the exam. There is no merit from the big villain but it created a situation where he was able to save someone by chance.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The thing is it's an exam they aren't going to give out all the answers also if the only thing you needed to do was destroy villains it wouldn't make for much of an exam. It was no merit in defeating the large one but it create a situation where he rescued someone from it. Deku proved himself to be a hero in that situation just like he did previously by reacting when no one else would.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: They are heroes. If they are told to rescue others during an exam it defeats the purpose of them aiming to be a hero. And the others are also aiming to be heroes so why would they complain when he has already proven himself to do the hero thing and sacrifice something to save someone else. The rescue points makes sense it's an exam villains are worth points yet the largest is worth 0 it was worth less should have been a hint that they were important for some reason.arms98 said: kamisama751 said: So what is the job of heroes? Protecting the law they made. What have they done? Breaking the own law they made just for the sake of the protagonist. Oh look, there is a special way to surpass it. No one knows and they just throw it in randomly just like failing an exam but you surpass anyway JUST BECAUSE. Plot device 101. If you couldn't tell from Iida foreshadowing UA planned on grading the students based on rescue points from the start. And its not like they broke the rules just for the protagonist. While he did get the most, its not like the other students didn't get rescue points too so you can't write it off as a plot device for the sake of the protagonist. So first you don't tell others that it exists then the protagonist surpasses it due to that.What will others think? He is favored and they made a special rule afterwards for it. Man, you failed at an exam but surpasses "just because" you have learned so hard for it even though you got zero points. Good job. They even explained that defeating it has no merit at the end of episode three. So they are actually lying? It is not any better and also proofs that my point. There is no merit-->destroys it-->passses exam God. First they tells the protagonist not to recue in episode two then they give him the pass in episode four for the same reason which is also done by lying. A heroic act has nothing to do with if ou actually got power or not. They shouted at him for acting like a hero. The same thing happened in episode four and he got praised, which is the exact opposite. He also putted himself at risk (passing the exam) in order to save someone. Also don't forget about the lying. You said it is so because the is no danger in the exam. What does a hero do? Putting himself in danger for others. If there is no danger then you got praised for, if there is then you got shouted at for it. That's how it works, don't save anyone when there is danger. Save whoever you want if there isn't danger and you can pass the exam with zero points because of it. So nope, it doesn't disapprove me. The situation in episode two is also one where he can save someone. God damn it. it's against their law to your power for combat without permission if you are still a student. He hasn't even have a power back then. Then how does that agument support you? I have said that a heroic act has nothing to do with power and they shouted at him for acting heroic. Then they let him pass the exam because of the same reason. (with lying beforehand). The school test says destroying that robot has no merit. So according to the actual law a hero needs a licence? You can't go and protect someone unless you got a licence? Don't protect anyone because you need a f*cking licence even if he might die. The law is about qualified heroes which students are not. Which is why they are in the school to begin with. He saved the life of hat guy because he got a snap of air. He protected him from dying. Shout at him because he saved a life. All I got from the image are not to use their powers as weapons. But it is self defense/saving lifes and not something for attacking. So it is not used as a weapon and the law is useless in this case. By the way, the main character haven't even got a power back then so the law is furthermore useless and don't support your perspective. Don't say he got shouted at because he has no power since we will only go in circles with this. doesn't let you use your power to hurt others even if it is to protect others and self defense. You have to be a qualified hero The law doesn't apply to him because he hasn't a power back then so he also don't need a f*cking licence. They shouted at him even though he acted heroic (which has nothing to do with power). Then let him pass because of the same reason with lying beforehand. The heroes can't do anything (as you can see) and even they are just standing there. He is acting 100% heroic and safed a life, which no one at that situation could (that person got a breath of air). He is also not reckless since you can see him using proper tactic. ZomiNimrod said: Fai said: everything in this, be it cinematography or characterization is just so...anime "wow this anime looks like an anime it sucks. 0/10" That's literally how you sound. I think that peron is saying that the show is generic. If the law doesn't matter then why do you mention it in the first place? He put himelf into a dangerous situation because he is going to safe someone. That is a heroic act. He is not recklesss because he used proper tactic. If he doesn't do that then that blonde guy is already dead due to lack of oxygen. He saved a life! Then they scold him and also lets him pass the exam because of the same reason. There's a fundamental difference between the acts in episode 2 and episode 4. In episode 2 he's a random kid with no quirk rushing to the scene of the crime, you can't say its not reckless because he used proper tactics. He's not batman he just threw his backpack at him hoping for the best. He was admonished because he, as a by standard, put his life on the line when this city already has an organized network of heroes to deal with crime. As one of the hereos shouted, he could have easily died in vain which is good for no one. In episode 4 he's no longer a by standard, he's a candidate being tested to become a hero. He was praised for his actions here because as All Might said and executed himself in episode 2, putting your life on the line to save others is a part of the job. So its pretty understandable that Midoryia was able to pass the exam by doing what he did. And i don't know why your so hung up about the rescue points thing, its not that the examiners were lying they just didn't tell them the whole truth, which is perfectly acceptable when you're attempting to test someone in a live situation. So saving a life only you could at that time is something to be scolded at. If he is reckless in episode two then he is also in episode four because his right arm and legs broke and nearly died due to the falling (and so much about the exam safety). It is not understandable that he passed it. There is no rule where they say "saving someone" or "destroying the robot" equals passing. They even lyed on that. It is something they come up afterwards which is actually against their own rule. He executed heroic acts both in ep2 and 4 (and successed) but the results are different because the plot says so. Wait, why don't we just let that healing hero heal All Might's wound? A heroic act has nothing to do with who you are. Both situations are dangerous, who knows that that girl is actually there? The main character also got himself nearly killed at the exam. Both situations are identic. The protagonist savd the person in both situations. Where comes randomly when he is clearly saving life and successed. The settings are also the same since the training ground should be simulation of the real, which makes these two situations comlpetely equal. Heroism is when you sacrifice yourself for doing others favor. He is in both situations a hero and got scolded in the first and praised for the latter one, for the sake of plot. To sum it all up (.. and I haven't read the manga) 1. The two situations are not identical. They just have similarities. 2. In ep 2, as you both previously mentioned, Deku was too reckless (even if he did have a strategy or wtv) to fight that villain without a quirk, thus making his "Heroic deed" or desire to do good look idiotic or reckless and useless to the heroes who were scolding him because it puts himself in danger. Yes, he did do a Heroic deed but it was for naught because he can't do shit without a quirk and he was in danger which could've gotten him killed and added to the casualties, and thus the heroes scolded him. Also, they probably (maybe) somewhat got guilty that a bystander was the one who acted first and took the heroic glory instead of them, thus making them look bad and therefore scolding him. It was probably a defense mechanism. LOL I was talking in circles, but I hope you understood some of it. 3. In ep 4, the 0 point-monster was a way for the academy to test the heroes "bravery" when it comes to facing danger. So of course they would not tell the students that there would be no merit to it, so that they could test that theory properly. It's called COVERT OBSERVATION, which literally means the subject doesn't know he/she is being watched or observed. But in this episode, they made it a mix of COVERT and CONTROLLED OBSERVATION which means that the researcher or observer does not tell his subjects that he/she is watching them/or their behavior in a controlled place or setting.... which translates to not telling your subjects what they are actually supposed to do (and maybe telling them something else) just to see how they would ACTUALLY AND REALISTICALLY react to a specific situation. The rescue points was added not because the plot says so but because as I have said above, it was some sort of experiment/test/research about how they would act in a specific situation knowing that it doesn't have any merits. (but it actually does, just not stated to them because it is an EXPERIMENT) Deku got praised for risking his life because: A.) they had Recovery girl on standby in case someone got hurt, so no ones in REAL REAL danger. B.) He already has a quirk, which means that he is not powerless in defending himself or killing 0-point-monster, therefore qualifying him to fight off a monster. [I don't have any knowhow about the laws or wtv, but by common sense, I think you should fight off a monster if you do have the "skills" or "qualifications" in fighting it off, meaning you have a (strong or decent) quirk of some sort to fend off a villain/monster/etc.] C.) It was a HERO test, a test of strength, wits, stamina, strategy and of course HEROISM. so the point is (if that was confusing lol): in ep 2 he got scolded because even if he did something "heroic" it was reckless and useless, because he was quirkless and puts his life in danger. in ep 4 he was praised because he did a heroic deed (that puts his life in danger) while he already has a (decent) quirk, qualifying him to fight off a villain and not being useless bystander which should not be involved in something so dangerous. I went in circles lmao so yeah..... Also, the one you said that Recovery girl should heal All Might is a good one, but I doubt All Might would tell people that because that would reveal the truth about his passed-on quirk, making him lose his pride or title of being a sign of peace or wtv. |
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Apr 27, 2016 6:53 AM
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kamisama751 said: Yeah we probably should.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The situations are nearly identical but the settings are not. The school is a training ground for those who want to become heroes and will make sure the students are safe meanwhile randomly putting yourself in danger by an actual villain is different.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: He was scolded for doing something dangerous even if he did save someone. However during the exam was different just because Recovery Girl was around for the exam to be a bit dangerous.FastnessofWheels said: kamisama751 said: Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: What part of the law isn't the problem he didn't do anything that got him in trouble he was lectured for putting himself in a dangerous situation. Not because he did something bad but because what he did was reckless and dangerous. Because if All Might didn't save him he would have possibly died.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I already said why he got shouted at it's because he put himself in danger. And even the law Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The robot isn't important it just created a situation. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Because during the exam they are have the qualifications to act as it is part of the schools test. But the actual law is different since you have to be qualified.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Which is why they scolded him for putting himself in a dangerous situation.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: It was danger during the exam but recovery girl is on standby and also minor spoiler Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: In episode 2 he was reckless, he had no power, and he couldn't do much besides put himself at risk. While in the exam he rescued someone which is part of the exam and it was no real danger as the heroes had recovery girl so they could go all out during the exam. There is no merit from the big villain but it created a situation where he was able to save someone by chance.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The thing is it's an exam they aren't going to give out all the answers also if the only thing you needed to do was destroy villains it wouldn't make for much of an exam. It was no merit in defeating the large one but it create a situation where he rescued someone from it. Deku proved himself to be a hero in that situation just like he did previously by reacting when no one else would.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: They are heroes. If they are told to rescue others during an exam it defeats the purpose of them aiming to be a hero. And the others are also aiming to be heroes so why would they complain when he has already proven himself to do the hero thing and sacrifice something to save someone else. The rescue points makes sense it's an exam villains are worth points yet the largest is worth 0 it was worth less should have been a hint that they were important for some reason.arms98 said: kamisama751 said: So what is the job of heroes? Protecting the law they made. What have they done? Breaking the own law they made just for the sake of the protagonist. Oh look, there is a special way to surpass it. No one knows and they just throw it in randomly just like failing an exam but you surpass anyway JUST BECAUSE. Plot device 101. If you couldn't tell from Iida foreshadowing UA planned on grading the students based on rescue points from the start. And its not like they broke the rules just for the protagonist. While he did get the most, its not like the other students didn't get rescue points too so you can't write it off as a plot device for the sake of the protagonist. So first you don't tell others that it exists then the protagonist surpasses it due to that.What will others think? He is favored and they made a special rule afterwards for it. Man, you failed at an exam but surpasses "just because" you have learned so hard for it even though you got zero points. Good job. They even explained that defeating it has no merit at the end of episode three. So they are actually lying? It is not any better and also proofs that my point. There is no merit-->destroys it-->passses exam God. First they tells the protagonist not to recue in episode two then they give him the pass in episode four for the same reason which is also done by lying. A heroic act has nothing to do with if ou actually got power or not. They shouted at him for acting like a hero. The same thing happened in episode four and he got praised, which is the exact opposite. He also putted himself at risk (passing the exam) in order to save someone. Also don't forget about the lying. You said it is so because the is no danger in the exam. What does a hero do? Putting himself in danger for others. If there is no danger then you got praised for, if there is then you got shouted at for it. That's how it works, don't save anyone when there is danger. Save whoever you want if there isn't danger and you can pass the exam with zero points because of it. So nope, it doesn't disapprove me. The situation in episode two is also one where he can save someone. God damn it. it's against their law to your power for combat without permission if you are still a student. He hasn't even have a power back then. Then how does that agument support you? I have said that a heroic act has nothing to do with power and they shouted at him for acting heroic. Then they let him pass the exam because of the same reason. (with lying beforehand). The school test says destroying that robot has no merit. So according to the actual law a hero needs a licence? You can't go and protect someone unless you got a licence? Don't protect anyone because you need a f*cking licence even if he might die. The law is about qualified heroes which students are not. Which is why they are in the school to begin with. He saved the life of hat guy because he got a snap of air. He protected him from dying. Shout at him because he saved a life. All I got from the image are not to use their powers as weapons. But it is self defense/saving lifes and not something for attacking. So it is not used as a weapon and the law is useless in this case. By the way, the main character haven't even got a power back then so the law is furthermore useless and don't support your perspective. Don't say he got shouted at because he has no power since we will only go in circles with this. doesn't let you use your power to hurt others even if it is to protect others and self defense. You have to be a qualified hero The law doesn't apply to him because he hasn't a power back then so he also don't need a f*cking licence. They shouted at him even though he acted heroic (which has nothing to do with power). Then let him pass because of the same reason with lying beforehand. The heroes can't do anything (as you can see) and even they are just standing there. He is acting 100% heroic and safed a life, which no one at that situation could (that person got a breath of air). He is also not reckless since you can see him using proper tactic. ZomiNimrod said: Fai said: everything in this, be it cinematography or characterization is just so...anime "wow this anime looks like an anime it sucks. 0/10" That's literally how you sound. I think that peron is saying that the show is generic. If the law doesn't matter then why do you mention it in the first place? He put himelf into a dangerous situation because he is going to safe someone. That is a heroic act. He is not recklesss because he used proper tactic. If he doesn't do that then that blonde guy is already dead due to lack of oxygen. He saved a life! Then they scold him and also lets him pass the exam because of the same reason. Why does this matter to you so much? It almost seems like you're trying to stir up a shit storm for no reason tbh. This is a discussion thread and I am discussing. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I understand that is a heroic act but the thing he almost got himself killed being reckless so they scolded him. While in this situations the heroes put them in danger purposely for the exam because they had RECOVERY GIRL nearby to treat injuries. While in the other situation deku would have died if not for all might saving him.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: What part of the law isn't the problem he didn't do anything that got him in trouble he was lectured for putting himself in a dangerous situation. Not because he did something bad but because what he did was reckless and dangerous. Because if All Might didn't save him he would have possibly died.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I already said why he got shouted at it's because he put himself in danger. And even the law Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The robot isn't important it just created a situation. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Because during the exam they are have the qualifications to act as it is part of the schools test. But the actual law is different since you have to be qualified.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Which is why they scolded him for putting himself in a dangerous situation.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: It was danger during the exam but recovery girl is on standby and also minor spoiler Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: In episode 2 he was reckless, he had no power, and he couldn't do much besides put himself at risk. While in the exam he rescued someone which is part of the exam and it was no real danger as the heroes had recovery girl so they could go all out during the exam. There is no merit from the big villain but it created a situation where he was able to save someone by chance.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The thing is it's an exam they aren't going to give out all the answers also if the only thing you needed to do was destroy villains it wouldn't make for much of an exam. It was no merit in defeating the large one but it create a situation where he rescued someone from it. Deku proved himself to be a hero in that situation just like he did previously by reacting when no one else would.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: They are heroes. If they are told to rescue others during an exam it defeats the purpose of them aiming to be a hero. And the others are also aiming to be heroes so why would they complain when he has already proven himself to do the hero thing and sacrifice something to save someone else. The rescue points makes sense it's an exam villains are worth points yet the largest is worth 0 it was worth less should have been a hint that they were important for some reason.arms98 said: kamisama751 said: So what is the job of heroes? Protecting the law they made. What have they done? Breaking the own law they made just for the sake of the protagonist. Oh look, there is a special way to surpass it. No one knows and they just throw it in randomly just like failing an exam but you surpass anyway JUST BECAUSE. Plot device 101. If you couldn't tell from Iida foreshadowing UA planned on grading the students based on rescue points from the start. And its not like they broke the rules just for the protagonist. While he did get the most, its not like the other students didn't get rescue points too so you can't write it off as a plot device for the sake of the protagonist. So first you don't tell others that it exists then the protagonist surpasses it due to that.What will others think? He is favored and they made a special rule afterwards for it. Man, you failed at an exam but surpasses "just because" you have learned so hard for it even though you got zero points. Good job. They even explained that defeating it has no merit at the end of episode three. So they are actually lying? It is not any better and also proofs that my point. There is no merit-->destroys it-->passses exam God. First they tells the protagonist not to recue in episode two then they give him the pass in episode four for the same reason which is also done by lying. A heroic act has nothing to do with if ou actually got power or not. They shouted at him for acting like a hero. The same thing happened in episode four and he got praised, which is the exact opposite. He also putted himself at risk (passing the exam) in order to save someone. Also don't forget about the lying. You said it is so because the is no danger in the exam. What does a hero do? Putting himself in danger for others. If there is no danger then you got praised for, if there is then you got shouted at for it. That's how it works, don't save anyone when there is danger. Save whoever you want if there isn't danger and you can pass the exam with zero points because of it. So nope, it doesn't disapprove me. The situation in episode two is also one where he can save someone. God damn it. it's against their law to your power for combat without permission if you are still a student. He hasn't even have a power back then. Then how does that agument support you? I have said that a heroic act has nothing to do with power and they shouted at him for acting heroic. Then they let him pass the exam because of the same reason. (with lying beforehand). The school test says destroying that robot has no merit. So according to the actual law a hero needs a licence? You can't go and protect someone unless you got a licence? Don't protect anyone because you need a f*cking licence even if he might die. The law is about qualified heroes which students are not. Which is why they are in the school to begin with. He saved the life of hat guy because he got a snap of air. He protected him from dying. Shout at him because he saved a life. All I got from the image are not to use their powers as weapons. But it is self defense/saving lifes and not something for attacking. So it is not used as a weapon and the law is useless in this case. By the way, the main character haven't even got a power back then so the law is furthermore useless and don't support your perspective. Don't say he got shouted at because he has no power since we will only go in circles with this. doesn't let you use your power to hurt others even if it is to protect others and self defense. You have to be a qualified hero The law doesn't apply to him because he hasn't a power back then so he also don't need a f*cking licence. They shouted at him even though he acted heroic (which has nothing to do with power). Then let him pass because of the same reason with lying beforehand. The heroes can't do anything (as you can see) and even they are just standing there. He is acting 100% heroic and safed a life, which no one at that situation could (that person got a breath of air). He is also not reckless since you can see him using proper tactic. ZomiNimrod said: Fai said: everything in this, be it cinematography or characterization is just so...anime "wow this anime looks like an anime it sucks. 0/10" That's literally how you sound. I think that peron is saying that the show is generic. If the law doesn't matter then why do you mention it in the first place? He put himelf into a dangerous situation because he is going to safe someone. That is a heroic act. He is not recklesss because he used proper tactic. If he doesn't do that then that blonde guy is already dead due to lack of oxygen. He saved a life! Then they scold him and also lets him pass the exam because of the same reason. I have also told you that he is the only person there that cold have saved the blond boy's life and he did it. Then they still scold him! Even if he put himselves in danger, no one (not event he heroes there) could have saved that boy besides him. He got scolded because he saved a life. My original statement isn't even the recue. God, how have we come to this. arms98 said: kamisama751 said: Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: What part of the law isn't the problem he didn't do anything that got him in trouble he was lectured for putting himself in a dangerous situation. Not because he did something bad but because what he did was reckless and dangerous. Because if All Might didn't save him he would have possibly died.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I already said why he got shouted at it's because he put himself in danger. And even the law Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The robot isn't important it just created a situation. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Because during the exam they are have the qualifications to act as it is part of the schools test. But the actual law is different since you have to be qualified.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Which is why they scolded him for putting himself in a dangerous situation.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: It was danger during the exam but recovery girl is on standby and also minor spoiler Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: In episode 2 he was reckless, he had no power, and he couldn't do much besides put himself at risk. While in the exam he rescued someone which is part of the exam and it was no real danger as the heroes had recovery girl so they could go all out during the exam. There is no merit from the big villain but it created a situation where he was able to save someone by chance.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The thing is it's an exam they aren't going to give out all the answers also if the only thing you needed to do was destroy villains it wouldn't make for much of an exam. It was no merit in defeating the large one but it create a situation where he rescued someone from it. Deku proved himself to be a hero in that situation just like he did previously by reacting when no one else would.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: They are heroes. If they are told to rescue others during an exam it defeats the purpose of them aiming to be a hero. And the others are also aiming to be heroes so why would they complain when he has already proven himself to do the hero thing and sacrifice something to save someone else. The rescue points makes sense it's an exam villains are worth points yet the largest is worth 0 it was worth less should have been a hint that they were important for some reason.arms98 said: kamisama751 said: So what is the job of heroes? Protecting the law they made. What have they done? Breaking the own law they made just for the sake of the protagonist. Oh look, there is a special way to surpass it. No one knows and they just throw it in randomly just like failing an exam but you surpass anyway JUST BECAUSE. Plot device 101. If you couldn't tell from Iida foreshadowing UA planned on grading the students based on rescue points from the start. And its not like they broke the rules just for the protagonist. While he did get the most, its not like the other students didn't get rescue points too so you can't write it off as a plot device for the sake of the protagonist. So first you don't tell others that it exists then the protagonist surpasses it due to that.What will others think? He is favored and they made a special rule afterwards for it. Man, you failed at an exam but surpasses "just because" you have learned so hard for it even though you got zero points. Good job. They even explained that defeating it has no merit at the end of episode three. So they are actually lying? It is not any better and also proofs that my point. There is no merit-->destroys it-->passses exam God. First they tells the protagonist not to recue in episode two then they give him the pass in episode four for the same reason which is also done by lying. A heroic act has nothing to do with if ou actually got power or not. They shouted at him for acting like a hero. The same thing happened in episode four and he got praised, which is the exact opposite. He also putted himself at risk (passing the exam) in order to save someone. Also don't forget about the lying. You said it is so because the is no danger in the exam. What does a hero do? Putting himself in danger for others. If there is no danger then you got praised for, if there is then you got shouted at for it. That's how it works, don't save anyone when there is danger. Save whoever you want if there isn't danger and you can pass the exam with zero points because of it. So nope, it doesn't disapprove me. The situation in episode two is also one where he can save someone. God damn it. it's against their law to your power for combat without permission if you are still a student. He hasn't even have a power back then. Then how does that agument support you? I have said that a heroic act has nothing to do with power and they shouted at him for acting heroic. Then they let him pass the exam because of the same reason. (with lying beforehand). The school test says destroying that robot has no merit. So according to the actual law a hero needs a licence? You can't go and protect someone unless you got a licence? Don't protect anyone because you need a f*cking licence even if he might die. The law is about qualified heroes which students are not. Which is why they are in the school to begin with. He saved the life of hat guy because he got a snap of air. He protected him from dying. Shout at him because he saved a life. All I got from the image are not to use their powers as weapons. But it is self defense/saving lifes and not something for attacking. So it is not used as a weapon and the law is useless in this case. By the way, the main character haven't even got a power back then so the law is furthermore useless and don't support your perspective. Don't say he got shouted at because he has no power since we will only go in circles with this. doesn't let you use your power to hurt others even if it is to protect others and self defense. You have to be a qualified hero The law doesn't apply to him because he hasn't a power back then so he also don't need a f*cking licence. They shouted at him even though he acted heroic (which has nothing to do with power). Then let him pass because of the same reason with lying beforehand. The heroes can't do anything (as you can see) and even they are just standing there. He is acting 100% heroic and safed a life, which no one at that situation could (that person got a breath of air). He is also not reckless since you can see him using proper tactic. ZomiNimrod said: Fai said: everything in this, be it cinematography or characterization is just so...anime "wow this anime looks like an anime it sucks. 0/10" That's literally how you sound. I think that peron is saying that the show is generic. If the law doesn't matter then why do you mention it in the first place? He put himelf into a dangerous situation because he is going to safe someone. That is a heroic act. He is not recklesss because he used proper tactic. If he doesn't do that then that blonde guy is already dead due to lack of oxygen. He saved a life! Then they scold him and also lets him pass the exam because of the same reason. There's a fundamental difference between the acts in episode 2 and episode 4. In episode 2 he's a random kid with no quirk rushing to the scene of the crime, you can't say its not reckless because he used proper tactics. He's not batman he just threw his backpack at him hoping for the best. He was admonished because he, as a by standard, put his life on the line when this city already has an organized network of heroes to deal with crime. As one of the hereos shouted, he could have easily died in vain which is good for no one. In episode 4 he's no longer a by standard, he's a candidate being tested to become a hero. He was praised for his actions here because as All Might said and executed himself in episode 2, putting your life on the line to save others is a part of the job. So its pretty understandable that Midoryia was able to pass the exam by doing what he did. And i don't know why your so hung up about the rescue points thing, its not that the examiners were lying they just didn't tell them the whole truth, which is perfectly acceptable when you're attempting to test someone in a live situation. So saving a life only you could at that time is something to be scolded at. If he is reckless in episode two then he is also in episode four because his right arm and legs broke and nearly died due to the falling (and so much about the exam safety). It is not understandable that he passed it. There is no rule where they say "saving someone" or "destroying the robot" equals passing. They even lyed on that. It is something they come up afterwards which is actually against their own rule. He executed heroic acts both in ep2 and 4 (and successed) but the results are different because the plot says so. Wait, why don't we just let that healing hero heal All Might's wound? A heroic act has nothing to do with who you are. Both situations are dangerous, who knows that that girl is actually there? The main character also got himself nearly killed at the exam. Both situations are identic. The protagonist savd the person in both situations. Where comes randomly when he is clearly saving life and successed. The settings are also the same since the training ground should be simulation of the real, which makes these two situations comlpetely equal. Heroism is when you sacrifice yourself for doing others favor. He is in both situations a hero and got scolded in the first and praised for the latter one, for the sake of plot. We are just repeating what we have said before. Why don't we just end it here. :D |
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kamisama751 said: Thug_Gou said: Great ep! Finally got my adrenaline pumping and we got to see Deku in action! xD That slap in the face was awesome LOL So happy for Deku for passing the exam! :) and I SHIP THEEEEEEEEEM! woooot ♥ On to ep 5! :D kamisama751 said: Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The situations are nearly identical but the settings are not. The school is a training ground for those who want to become heroes and will make sure the students are safe meanwhile randomly putting yourself in danger by an actual villain is different.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: He was scolded for doing something dangerous even if he did save someone. However during the exam was different just because Recovery Girl was around for the exam to be a bit dangerous.FastnessofWheels said: kamisama751 said: Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: What part of the law isn't the problem he didn't do anything that got him in trouble he was lectured for putting himself in a dangerous situation. Not because he did something bad but because what he did was reckless and dangerous. Because if All Might didn't save him he would have possibly died.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I already said why he got shouted at it's because he put himself in danger. And even the law Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The robot isn't important it just created a situation. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Because during the exam they are have the qualifications to act as it is part of the schools test. But the actual law is different since you have to be qualified.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Which is why they scolded him for putting himself in a dangerous situation.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: It was danger during the exam but recovery girl is on standby and also minor spoiler Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: In episode 2 he was reckless, he had no power, and he couldn't do much besides put himself at risk. While in the exam he rescued someone which is part of the exam and it was no real danger as the heroes had recovery girl so they could go all out during the exam. There is no merit from the big villain but it created a situation where he was able to save someone by chance.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The thing is it's an exam they aren't going to give out all the answers also if the only thing you needed to do was destroy villains it wouldn't make for much of an exam. It was no merit in defeating the large one but it create a situation where he rescued someone from it. Deku proved himself to be a hero in that situation just like he did previously by reacting when no one else would.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: They are heroes. If they are told to rescue others during an exam it defeats the purpose of them aiming to be a hero. And the others are also aiming to be heroes so why would they complain when he has already proven himself to do the hero thing and sacrifice something to save someone else. The rescue points makes sense it's an exam villains are worth points yet the largest is worth 0 it was worth less should have been a hint that they were important for some reason.arms98 said: kamisama751 said: So what is the job of heroes? Protecting the law they made. What have they done? Breaking the own law they made just for the sake of the protagonist. Oh look, there is a special way to surpass it. No one knows and they just throw it in randomly just like failing an exam but you surpass anyway JUST BECAUSE. Plot device 101. If you couldn't tell from Iida foreshadowing UA planned on grading the students based on rescue points from the start. And its not like they broke the rules just for the protagonist. While he did get the most, its not like the other students didn't get rescue points too so you can't write it off as a plot device for the sake of the protagonist. So first you don't tell others that it exists then the protagonist surpasses it due to that.What will others think? He is favored and they made a special rule afterwards for it. Man, you failed at an exam but surpasses "just because" you have learned so hard for it even though you got zero points. Good job. They even explained that defeating it has no merit at the end of episode three. So they are actually lying? It is not any better and also proofs that my point. There is no merit-->destroys it-->passses exam God. First they tells the protagonist not to recue in episode two then they give him the pass in episode four for the same reason which is also done by lying. A heroic act has nothing to do with if ou actually got power or not. They shouted at him for acting like a hero. The same thing happened in episode four and he got praised, which is the exact opposite. He also putted himself at risk (passing the exam) in order to save someone. Also don't forget about the lying. You said it is so because the is no danger in the exam. What does a hero do? Putting himself in danger for others. If there is no danger then you got praised for, if there is then you got shouted at for it. That's how it works, don't save anyone when there is danger. Save whoever you want if there isn't danger and you can pass the exam with zero points because of it. So nope, it doesn't disapprove me. The situation in episode two is also one where he can save someone. God damn it. it's against their law to your power for combat without permission if you are still a student. He hasn't even have a power back then. Then how does that agument support you? I have said that a heroic act has nothing to do with power and they shouted at him for acting heroic. Then they let him pass the exam because of the same reason. (with lying beforehand). The school test says destroying that robot has no merit. So according to the actual law a hero needs a licence? You can't go and protect someone unless you got a licence? Don't protect anyone because you need a f*cking licence even if he might die. The law is about qualified heroes which students are not. Which is why they are in the school to begin with. He saved the life of hat guy because he got a snap of air. He protected him from dying. Shout at him because he saved a life. All I got from the image are not to use their powers as weapons. But it is self defense/saving lifes and not something for attacking. So it is not used as a weapon and the law is useless in this case. By the way, the main character haven't even got a power back then so the law is furthermore useless and don't support your perspective. Don't say he got shouted at because he has no power since we will only go in circles with this. doesn't let you use your power to hurt others even if it is to protect others and self defense. You have to be a qualified hero The law doesn't apply to him because he hasn't a power back then so he also don't need a f*cking licence. They shouted at him even though he acted heroic (which has nothing to do with power). Then let him pass because of the same reason with lying beforehand. The heroes can't do anything (as you can see) and even they are just standing there. He is acting 100% heroic and safed a life, which no one at that situation could (that person got a breath of air). He is also not reckless since you can see him using proper tactic. ZomiNimrod said: Fai said: everything in this, be it cinematography or characterization is just so...anime "wow this anime looks like an anime it sucks. 0/10" That's literally how you sound. I think that peron is saying that the show is generic. If the law doesn't matter then why do you mention it in the first place? He put himelf into a dangerous situation because he is going to safe someone. That is a heroic act. He is not recklesss because he used proper tactic. If he doesn't do that then that blonde guy is already dead due to lack of oxygen. He saved a life! Then they scold him and also lets him pass the exam because of the same reason. Why does this matter to you so much? It almost seems like you're trying to stir up a shit storm for no reason tbh. This is a discussion thread and I am discussing. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I understand that is a heroic act but the thing he almost got himself killed being reckless so they scolded him. While in this situations the heroes put them in danger purposely for the exam because they had RECOVERY GIRL nearby to treat injuries. While in the other situation deku would have died if not for all might saving him.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: What part of the law isn't the problem he didn't do anything that got him in trouble he was lectured for putting himself in a dangerous situation. Not because he did something bad but because what he did was reckless and dangerous. Because if All Might didn't save him he would have possibly died.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I already said why he got shouted at it's because he put himself in danger. And even the law Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The robot isn't important it just created a situation. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Because during the exam they are have the qualifications to act as it is part of the schools test. But the actual law is different since you have to be qualified.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Which is why they scolded him for putting himself in a dangerous situation.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: It was danger during the exam but recovery girl is on standby and also minor spoiler Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: In episode 2 he was reckless, he had no power, and he couldn't do much besides put himself at risk. While in the exam he rescued someone which is part of the exam and it was no real danger as the heroes had recovery girl so they could go all out during the exam. There is no merit from the big villain but it created a situation where he was able to save someone by chance.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The thing is it's an exam they aren't going to give out all the answers also if the only thing you needed to do was destroy villains it wouldn't make for much of an exam. It was no merit in defeating the large one but it create a situation where he rescued someone from it. Deku proved himself to be a hero in that situation just like he did previously by reacting when no one else would.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: They are heroes. If they are told to rescue others during an exam it defeats the purpose of them aiming to be a hero. And the others are also aiming to be heroes so why would they complain when he has already proven himself to do the hero thing and sacrifice something to save someone else. The rescue points makes sense it's an exam villains are worth points yet the largest is worth 0 it was worth less should have been a hint that they were important for some reason.arms98 said: kamisama751 said: So what is the job of heroes? Protecting the law they made. What have they done? Breaking the own law they made just for the sake of the protagonist. Oh look, there is a special way to surpass it. No one knows and they just throw it in randomly just like failing an exam but you surpass anyway JUST BECAUSE. Plot device 101. If you couldn't tell from Iida foreshadowing UA planned on grading the students based on rescue points from the start. And its not like they broke the rules just for the protagonist. While he did get the most, its not like the other students didn't get rescue points too so you can't write it off as a plot device for the sake of the protagonist. So first you don't tell others that it exists then the protagonist surpasses it due to that.What will others think? He is favored and they made a special rule afterwards for it. Man, you failed at an exam but surpasses "just because" you have learned so hard for it even though you got zero points. Good job. They even explained that defeating it has no merit at the end of episode three. So they are actually lying? It is not any better and also proofs that my point. There is no merit-->destroys it-->passses exam God. First they tells the protagonist not to recue in episode two then they give him the pass in episode four for the same reason which is also done by lying. A heroic act has nothing to do with if ou actually got power or not. They shouted at him for acting like a hero. The same thing happened in episode four and he got praised, which is the exact opposite. He also putted himself at risk (passing the exam) in order to save someone. Also don't forget about the lying. You said it is so because the is no danger in the exam. What does a hero do? Putting himself in danger for others. If there is no danger then you got praised for, if there is then you got shouted at for it. That's how it works, don't save anyone when there is danger. Save whoever you want if there isn't danger and you can pass the exam with zero points because of it. So nope, it doesn't disapprove me. The situation in episode two is also one where he can save someone. God damn it. it's against their law to your power for combat without permission if you are still a student. He hasn't even have a power back then. Then how does that agument support you? I have said that a heroic act has nothing to do with power and they shouted at him for acting heroic. Then they let him pass the exam because of the same reason. (with lying beforehand). The school test says destroying that robot has no merit. So according to the actual law a hero needs a licence? You can't go and protect someone unless you got a licence? Don't protect anyone because you need a f*cking licence even if he might die. The law is about qualified heroes which students are not. Which is why they are in the school to begin with. He saved the life of hat guy because he got a snap of air. He protected him from dying. Shout at him because he saved a life. All I got from the image are not to use their powers as weapons. But it is self defense/saving lifes and not something for attacking. So it is not used as a weapon and the law is useless in this case. By the way, the main character haven't even got a power back then so the law is furthermore useless and don't support your perspective. Don't say he got shouted at because he has no power since we will only go in circles with this. doesn't let you use your power to hurt others even if it is to protect others and self defense. You have to be a qualified hero The law doesn't apply to him because he hasn't a power back then so he also don't need a f*cking licence. They shouted at him even though he acted heroic (which has nothing to do with power). Then let him pass because of the same reason with lying beforehand. The heroes can't do anything (as you can see) and even they are just standing there. He is acting 100% heroic and safed a life, which no one at that situation could (that person got a breath of air). He is also not reckless since you can see him using proper tactic. ZomiNimrod said: Fai said: everything in this, be it cinematography or characterization is just so...anime "wow this anime looks like an anime it sucks. 0/10" That's literally how you sound. I think that peron is saying that the show is generic. If the law doesn't matter then why do you mention it in the first place? He put himelf into a dangerous situation because he is going to safe someone. That is a heroic act. He is not recklesss because he used proper tactic. If he doesn't do that then that blonde guy is already dead due to lack of oxygen. He saved a life! Then they scold him and also lets him pass the exam because of the same reason. I have also told you that he is the only person there that cold have saved the blond boy's life and he did it. Then they still scold him! Even if he put himselves in danger, no one (not event he heroes there) could have saved that boy besides him. He got scolded because he saved a life. My original statement isn't even the recue. God, how have we come to this. arms98 said: kamisama751 said: Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: What part of the law isn't the problem he didn't do anything that got him in trouble he was lectured for putting himself in a dangerous situation. Not because he did something bad but because what he did was reckless and dangerous. Because if All Might didn't save him he would have possibly died.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I already said why he got shouted at it's because he put himself in danger. And even the law Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The robot isn't important it just created a situation. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Because during the exam they are have the qualifications to act as it is part of the schools test. But the actual law is different since you have to be qualified.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Which is why they scolded him for putting himself in a dangerous situation.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: It was danger during the exam but recovery girl is on standby and also minor spoiler Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: In episode 2 he was reckless, he had no power, and he couldn't do much besides put himself at risk. While in the exam he rescued someone which is part of the exam and it was no real danger as the heroes had recovery girl so they could go all out during the exam. There is no merit from the big villain but it created a situation where he was able to save someone by chance.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The thing is it's an exam they aren't going to give out all the answers also if the only thing you needed to do was destroy villains it wouldn't make for much of an exam. It was no merit in defeating the large one but it create a situation where he rescued someone from it. Deku proved himself to be a hero in that situation just like he did previously by reacting when no one else would.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: They are heroes. If they are told to rescue others during an exam it defeats the purpose of them aiming to be a hero. And the others are also aiming to be heroes so why would they complain when he has already proven himself to do the hero thing and sacrifice something to save someone else. The rescue points makes sense it's an exam villains are worth points yet the largest is worth 0 it was worth less should have been a hint that they were important for some reason.arms98 said: kamisama751 said: So what is the job of heroes? Protecting the law they made. What have they done? Breaking the own law they made just for the sake of the protagonist. Oh look, there is a special way to surpass it. No one knows and they just throw it in randomly just like failing an exam but you surpass anyway JUST BECAUSE. Plot device 101. If you couldn't tell from Iida foreshadowing UA planned on grading the students based on rescue points from the start. And its not like they broke the rules just for the protagonist. While he did get the most, its not like the other students didn't get rescue points too so you can't write it off as a plot device for the sake of the protagonist. So first you don't tell others that it exists then the protagonist surpasses it due to that.What will others think? He is favored and they made a special rule afterwards for it. Man, you failed at an exam but surpasses "just because" you have learned so hard for it even though you got zero points. Good job. They even explained that defeating it has no merit at the end of episode three. So they are actually lying? It is not any better and also proofs that my point. There is no merit-->destroys it-->passses exam God. First they tells the protagonist not to recue in episode two then they give him the pass in episode four for the same reason which is also done by lying. A heroic act has nothing to do with if ou actually got power or not. They shouted at him for acting like a hero. The same thing happened in episode four and he got praised, which is the exact opposite. He also putted himself at risk (passing the exam) in order to save someone. Also don't forget about the lying. You said it is so because the is no danger in the exam. What does a hero do? Putting himself in danger for others. If there is no danger then you got praised for, if there is then you got shouted at for it. That's how it works, don't save anyone when there is danger. Save whoever you want if there isn't danger and you can pass the exam with zero points because of it. So nope, it doesn't disapprove me. The situation in episode two is also one where he can save someone. God damn it. it's against their law to your power for combat without permission if you are still a student. He hasn't even have a power back then. Then how does that agument support you? I have said that a heroic act has nothing to do with power and they shouted at him for acting heroic. Then they let him pass the exam because of the same reason. (with lying beforehand). The school test says destroying that robot has no merit. So according to the actual law a hero needs a licence? You can't go and protect someone unless you got a licence? Don't protect anyone because you need a f*cking licence even if he might die. The law is about qualified heroes which students are not. Which is why they are in the school to begin with. He saved the life of hat guy because he got a snap of air. He protected him from dying. Shout at him because he saved a life. All I got from the image are not to use their powers as weapons. But it is self defense/saving lifes and not something for attacking. So it is not used as a weapon and the law is useless in this case. By the way, the main character haven't even got a power back then so the law is furthermore useless and don't support your perspective. Don't say he got shouted at because he has no power since we will only go in circles with this. doesn't let you use your power to hurt others even if it is to protect others and self defense. You have to be a qualified hero The law doesn't apply to him because he hasn't a power back then so he also don't need a f*cking licence. They shouted at him even though he acted heroic (which has nothing to do with power). Then let him pass because of the same reason with lying beforehand. The heroes can't do anything (as you can see) and even they are just standing there. He is acting 100% heroic and safed a life, which no one at that situation could (that person got a breath of air). He is also not reckless since you can see him using proper tactic. ZomiNimrod said: Fai said: everything in this, be it cinematography or characterization is just so...anime "wow this anime looks like an anime it sucks. 0/10" That's literally how you sound. I think that peron is saying that the show is generic. If the law doesn't matter then why do you mention it in the first place? He put himelf into a dangerous situation because he is going to safe someone. That is a heroic act. He is not recklesss because he used proper tactic. If he doesn't do that then that blonde guy is already dead due to lack of oxygen. He saved a life! Then they scold him and also lets him pass the exam because of the same reason. There's a fundamental difference between the acts in episode 2 and episode 4. In episode 2 he's a random kid with no quirk rushing to the scene of the crime, you can't say its not reckless because he used proper tactics. He's not batman he just threw his backpack at him hoping for the best. He was admonished because he, as a by standard, put his life on the line when this city already has an organized network of heroes to deal with crime. As one of the hereos shouted, he could have easily died in vain which is good for no one. In episode 4 he's no longer a by standard, he's a candidate being tested to become a hero. He was praised for his actions here because as All Might said and executed himself in episode 2, putting your life on the line to save others is a part of the job. So its pretty understandable that Midoryia was able to pass the exam by doing what he did. And i don't know why your so hung up about the rescue points thing, its not that the examiners were lying they just didn't tell them the whole truth, which is perfectly acceptable when you're attempting to test someone in a live situation. So saving a life only you could at that time is something to be scolded at. If he is reckless in episode two then he is also in episode four because his right arm and legs broke and nearly died due to the falling (and so much about the exam safety). It is not understandable that he passed it. There is no rule where they say "saving someone" or "destroying the robot" equals passing. They even lyed on that. It is something they come up afterwards which is actually against their own rule. He executed heroic acts both in ep2 and 4 (and successed) but the results are different because the plot says so. Wait, why don't we just let that healing hero heal All Might's wound? A heroic act has nothing to do with who you are. Both situations are dangerous, who knows that that girl is actually there? The main character also got himself nearly killed at the exam. Both situations are identic. The protagonist savd the person in both situations. Where comes randomly when he is clearly saving life and successed. The settings are also the same since the training ground should be simulation of the real, which makes these two situations comlpetely equal. Heroism is when you sacrifice yourself for doing others favor. He is in both situations a hero and got scolded in the first and praised for the latter one, for the sake of plot. To sum it all up (.. and I haven't read the manga) 1. The two situations are not identical. They just have similarities. 2. In ep 2, as you both previously mentioned, Deku was too reckless (even if he did have a strategy or wtv) to fight that villain without a quirk, thus making his "Heroic deed" or desire to do good look idiotic or reckless and useless to the heroes who were scolding him because it puts himself in danger. Yes, he did do a Heroic deed but it was for naught because he can't do shit without a quirk and he was in danger which could've gotten him killed and added to the casualties, and thus the heroes scolded him. Also, they probably (maybe) somewhat got guilty that a bystander was the one who acted first and took the heroic glory instead of them, thus making them look bad and therefore scolding him. It was probably a defense mechanism. LOL I was talking in circles, but I hope you understood some of it. 3. In ep 4, the 0 point-monster was a way for the academy to test the heroes "bravery" when it comes to facing danger. So of course they would not tell the students that there would be no merit to it, so that they could test that theory properly. It's called COVERT OBSERVATION, which literally means the subject doesn't know he/she is being watched or observed. But in this episode, they made it a mix of COVERT and CONTROLLED OBSERVATION which means that the researcher or observer does not tell his subjects that he/she is watching them/or their behavior in a controlled place or setting.... which translates to not telling your subjects what they are actually supposed to do (and maybe telling them something else) just to see how they would ACTUALLY AND REALISTICALLY react to a specific situation. The rescue points was added not because the plot says so but because as I have said above, it was some sort of experiment/test/research about how they would act in a specific situation knowing that it doesn't have any merits. (but it actually does, just not stated to them because it is an EXPERIMENT) Deku got praised for risking his life because: A.) they had Recovery girl on standby in case someone got hurt, so no ones in REAL REAL danger. B.) He already has a quirk, which means that he is not powerless in defending himself or killing 0-point-monster, therefore qualifying him to fight off a monster. [I don't have any knowhow about the laws or wtv, but by common sense, I think you should fight off a monster if you do have the "skills" or "qualifications" in fighting it off, meaning you have a (strong or decent) quirk of some sort to fend off a villain/monster/etc.] C.) It was a HERO test, a test of strength, wits, stamina, strategy and of course HEROISM. so the point is (if that was confusing lol): in ep 2 he got scolded because even if he did something "heroic" it was reckless and useless, because he was quirkless and puts his life in danger. in ep 4 he was praised because he did a heroic deed (that puts his life in danger) while he already has a (decent) quirk, qualifying him to fight off a villain and not being useless bystander which should not be involved in something so dangerous. I went in circles lmao so yeah..... Also, the one you said that Recovery girl should heal All Might is a good one, but I doubt All Might would tell people that because that would reveal the truth about his passed-on quirk, making him lose his pride or title of being a sign of peace or wtv. That is what we are discussing about and I can mentioned the exact same points which stands against it.  Well dayum son, no need to use moah sig against me. Again, I'm just giving my say on the topic. I'm not sure which parts are contradictory to your standpoint but I just wanna point out that doing something heroic doesn't mean you can't get scolded by being reckless. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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Apr 27, 2016 7:24 AM
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| They did a great job of showing the negative aspect of what One for All's power does to Midoriya. His bones looked nonexistent as he fell. Another great episode, I really like the pacing and the animation. Deku saving Ochako was done very well, but I felt the emotion of him getting into U.A. was a little too drawn out. |
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Apr 27, 2016 7:28 AM
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kamisama751 said: Thug_Gou said: kamisama751 said: Thug_Gou said: Great ep! Finally got my adrenaline pumping and we got to see Deku in action! xD That slap in the face was awesome LOL So happy for Deku for passing the exam! :) and I SHIP THEEEEEEEEEM! woooot ♥ On to ep 5! :D kamisama751 said: Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The situations are nearly identical but the settings are not. The school is a training ground for those who want to become heroes and will make sure the students are safe meanwhile randomly putting yourself in danger by an actual villain is different.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: He was scolded for doing something dangerous even if he did save someone. However during the exam was different just because Recovery Girl was around for the exam to be a bit dangerous.FastnessofWheels said: kamisama751 said: Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: What part of the law isn't the problem he didn't do anything that got him in trouble he was lectured for putting himself in a dangerous situation. Not because he did something bad but because what he did was reckless and dangerous. Because if All Might didn't save him he would have possibly died.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I already said why he got shouted at it's because he put himself in danger. And even the law Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The robot isn't important it just created a situation. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Because during the exam they are have the qualifications to act as it is part of the schools test. But the actual law is different since you have to be qualified.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Which is why they scolded him for putting himself in a dangerous situation.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: It was danger during the exam but recovery girl is on standby and also minor spoiler Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: In episode 2 he was reckless, he had no power, and he couldn't do much besides put himself at risk. While in the exam he rescued someone which is part of the exam and it was no real danger as the heroes had recovery girl so they could go all out during the exam. There is no merit from the big villain but it created a situation where he was able to save someone by chance.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The thing is it's an exam they aren't going to give out all the answers also if the only thing you needed to do was destroy villains it wouldn't make for much of an exam. It was no merit in defeating the large one but it create a situation where he rescued someone from it. Deku proved himself to be a hero in that situation just like he did previously by reacting when no one else would.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: They are heroes. If they are told to rescue others during an exam it defeats the purpose of them aiming to be a hero. And the others are also aiming to be heroes so why would they complain when he has already proven himself to do the hero thing and sacrifice something to save someone else. The rescue points makes sense it's an exam villains are worth points yet the largest is worth 0 it was worth less should have been a hint that they were important for some reason.arms98 said: kamisama751 said: So what is the job of heroes? Protecting the law they made. What have they done? Breaking the own law they made just for the sake of the protagonist. Oh look, there is a special way to surpass it. No one knows and they just throw it in randomly just like failing an exam but you surpass anyway JUST BECAUSE. Plot device 101. If you couldn't tell from Iida foreshadowing UA planned on grading the students based on rescue points from the start. And its not like they broke the rules just for the protagonist. While he did get the most, its not like the other students didn't get rescue points too so you can't write it off as a plot device for the sake of the protagonist. So first you don't tell others that it exists then the protagonist surpasses it due to that.What will others think? He is favored and they made a special rule afterwards for it. Man, you failed at an exam but surpasses "just because" you have learned so hard for it even though you got zero points. Good job. They even explained that defeating it has no merit at the end of episode three. So they are actually lying? It is not any better and also proofs that my point. There is no merit-->destroys it-->passses exam God. First they tells the protagonist not to recue in episode two then they give him the pass in episode four for the same reason which is also done by lying. A heroic act has nothing to do with if ou actually got power or not. They shouted at him for acting like a hero. The same thing happened in episode four and he got praised, which is the exact opposite. He also putted himself at risk (passing the exam) in order to save someone. Also don't forget about the lying. You said it is so because the is no danger in the exam. What does a hero do? Putting himself in danger for others. If there is no danger then you got praised for, if there is then you got shouted at for it. That's how it works, don't save anyone when there is danger. Save whoever you want if there isn't danger and you can pass the exam with zero points because of it. So nope, it doesn't disapprove me. The situation in episode two is also one where he can save someone. God damn it. it's against their law to your power for combat without permission if you are still a student. He hasn't even have a power back then. Then how does that agument support you? I have said that a heroic act has nothing to do with power and they shouted at him for acting heroic. Then they let him pass the exam because of the same reason. (with lying beforehand). The school test says destroying that robot has no merit. So according to the actual law a hero needs a licence? You can't go and protect someone unless you got a licence? Don't protect anyone because you need a f*cking licence even if he might die. The law is about qualified heroes which students are not. Which is why they are in the school to begin with. He saved the life of hat guy because he got a snap of air. He protected him from dying. Shout at him because he saved a life. All I got from the image are not to use their powers as weapons. But it is self defense/saving lifes and not something for attacking. So it is not used as a weapon and the law is useless in this case. By the way, the main character haven't even got a power back then so the law is furthermore useless and don't support your perspective. Don't say he got shouted at because he has no power since we will only go in circles with this. doesn't let you use your power to hurt others even if it is to protect others and self defense. You have to be a qualified hero The law doesn't apply to him because he hasn't a power back then so he also don't need a f*cking licence. They shouted at him even though he acted heroic (which has nothing to do with power). Then let him pass because of the same reason with lying beforehand. The heroes can't do anything (as you can see) and even they are just standing there. He is acting 100% heroic and safed a life, which no one at that situation could (that person got a breath of air). He is also not reckless since you can see him using proper tactic. ZomiNimrod said: Fai said: everything in this, be it cinematography or characterization is just so...anime "wow this anime looks like an anime it sucks. 0/10" That's literally how you sound. I think that peron is saying that the show is generic. If the law doesn't matter then why do you mention it in the first place? He put himelf into a dangerous situation because he is going to safe someone. That is a heroic act. He is not recklesss because he used proper tactic. If he doesn't do that then that blonde guy is already dead due to lack of oxygen. He saved a life! Then they scold him and also lets him pass the exam because of the same reason. Why does this matter to you so much? It almost seems like you're trying to stir up a shit storm for no reason tbh. This is a discussion thread and I am discussing. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I understand that is a heroic act but the thing he almost got himself killed being reckless so they scolded him. While in this situations the heroes put them in danger purposely for the exam because they had RECOVERY GIRL nearby to treat injuries. While in the other situation deku would have died if not for all might saving him.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: What part of the law isn't the problem he didn't do anything that got him in trouble he was lectured for putting himself in a dangerous situation. Not because he did something bad but because what he did was reckless and dangerous. Because if All Might didn't save him he would have possibly died.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I already said why he got shouted at it's because he put himself in danger. And even the law Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The robot isn't important it just created a situation. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Because during the exam they are have the qualifications to act as it is part of the schools test. But the actual law is different since you have to be qualified.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Which is why they scolded him for putting himself in a dangerous situation.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: It was danger during the exam but recovery girl is on standby and also minor spoiler Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: In episode 2 he was reckless, he had no power, and he couldn't do much besides put himself at risk. While in the exam he rescued someone which is part of the exam and it was no real danger as the heroes had recovery girl so they could go all out during the exam. There is no merit from the big villain but it created a situation where he was able to save someone by chance.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The thing is it's an exam they aren't going to give out all the answers also if the only thing you needed to do was destroy villains it wouldn't make for much of an exam. It was no merit in defeating the large one but it create a situation where he rescued someone from it. Deku proved himself to be a hero in that situation just like he did previously by reacting when no one else would.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: They are heroes. If they are told to rescue others during an exam it defeats the purpose of them aiming to be a hero. And the others are also aiming to be heroes so why would they complain when he has already proven himself to do the hero thing and sacrifice something to save someone else. The rescue points makes sense it's an exam villains are worth points yet the largest is worth 0 it was worth less should have been a hint that they were important for some reason.arms98 said: kamisama751 said: So what is the job of heroes? Protecting the law they made. What have they done? Breaking the own law they made just for the sake of the protagonist. Oh look, there is a special way to surpass it. No one knows and they just throw it in randomly just like failing an exam but you surpass anyway JUST BECAUSE. Plot device 101. If you couldn't tell from Iida foreshadowing UA planned on grading the students based on rescue points from the start. And its not like they broke the rules just for the protagonist. While he did get the most, its not like the other students didn't get rescue points too so you can't write it off as a plot device for the sake of the protagonist. So first you don't tell others that it exists then the protagonist surpasses it due to that.What will others think? He is favored and they made a special rule afterwards for it. Man, you failed at an exam but surpasses "just because" you have learned so hard for it even though you got zero points. Good job. They even explained that defeating it has no merit at the end of episode three. So they are actually lying? It is not any better and also proofs that my point. There is no merit-->destroys it-->passses exam God. First they tells the protagonist not to recue in episode two then they give him the pass in episode four for the same reason which is also done by lying. A heroic act has nothing to do with if ou actually got power or not. They shouted at him for acting like a hero. The same thing happened in episode four and he got praised, which is the exact opposite. He also putted himself at risk (passing the exam) in order to save someone. Also don't forget about the lying. You said it is so because the is no danger in the exam. What does a hero do? Putting himself in danger for others. If there is no danger then you got praised for, if there is then you got shouted at for it. That's how it works, don't save anyone when there is danger. Save whoever you want if there isn't danger and you can pass the exam with zero points because of it. So nope, it doesn't disapprove me. The situation in episode two is also one where he can save someone. God damn it. it's against their law to your power for combat without permission if you are still a student. He hasn't even have a power back then. Then how does that agument support you? I have said that a heroic act has nothing to do with power and they shouted at him for acting heroic. Then they let him pass the exam because of the same reason. (with lying beforehand). The school test says destroying that robot has no merit. So according to the actual law a hero needs a licence? You can't go and protect someone unless you got a licence? Don't protect anyone because you need a f*cking licence even if he might die. The law is about qualified heroes which students are not. Which is why they are in the school to begin with. He saved the life of hat guy because he got a snap of air. He protected him from dying. Shout at him because he saved a life. All I got from the image are not to use their powers as weapons. But it is self defense/saving lifes and not something for attacking. So it is not used as a weapon and the law is useless in this case. By the way, the main character haven't even got a power back then so the law is furthermore useless and don't support your perspective. Don't say he got shouted at because he has no power since we will only go in circles with this. doesn't let you use your power to hurt others even if it is to protect others and self defense. You have to be a qualified hero The law doesn't apply to him because he hasn't a power back then so he also don't need a f*cking licence. They shouted at him even though he acted heroic (which has nothing to do with power). Then let him pass because of the same reason with lying beforehand. The heroes can't do anything (as you can see) and even they are just standing there. He is acting 100% heroic and safed a life, which no one at that situation could (that person got a breath of air). He is also not reckless since you can see him using proper tactic. ZomiNimrod said: Fai said: everything in this, be it cinematography or characterization is just so...anime "wow this anime looks like an anime it sucks. 0/10" That's literally how you sound. I think that peron is saying that the show is generic. If the law doesn't matter then why do you mention it in the first place? He put himelf into a dangerous situation because he is going to safe someone. That is a heroic act. He is not recklesss because he used proper tactic. If he doesn't do that then that blonde guy is already dead due to lack of oxygen. He saved a life! Then they scold him and also lets him pass the exam because of the same reason. I have also told you that he is the only person there that cold have saved the blond boy's life and he did it. Then they still scold him! Even if he put himselves in danger, no one (not event he heroes there) could have saved that boy besides him. He got scolded because he saved a life. My original statement isn't even the recue. God, how have we come to this. arms98 said: kamisama751 said: Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: What part of the law isn't the problem he didn't do anything that got him in trouble he was lectured for putting himself in a dangerous situation. Not because he did something bad but because what he did was reckless and dangerous. Because if All Might didn't save him he would have possibly died.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I already said why he got shouted at it's because he put himself in danger. And even the law Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The robot isn't important it just created a situation. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Because during the exam they are have the qualifications to act as it is part of the schools test. But the actual law is different since you have to be qualified.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Which is why they scolded him for putting himself in a dangerous situation.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: It was danger during the exam but recovery girl is on standby and also minor spoiler Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: In episode 2 he was reckless, he had no power, and he couldn't do much besides put himself at risk. While in the exam he rescued someone which is part of the exam and it was no real danger as the heroes had recovery girl so they could go all out during the exam. There is no merit from the big villain but it created a situation where he was able to save someone by chance.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The thing is it's an exam they aren't going to give out all the answers also if the only thing you needed to do was destroy villains it wouldn't make for much of an exam. It was no merit in defeating the large one but it create a situation where he rescued someone from it. Deku proved himself to be a hero in that situation just like he did previously by reacting when no one else would.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: They are heroes. If they are told to rescue others during an exam it defeats the purpose of them aiming to be a hero. And the others are also aiming to be heroes so why would they complain when he has already proven himself to do the hero thing and sacrifice something to save someone else. The rescue points makes sense it's an exam villains are worth points yet the largest is worth 0 it was worth less should have been a hint that they were important for some reason.arms98 said: kamisama751 said: So what is the job of heroes? Protecting the law they made. What have they done? Breaking the own law they made just for the sake of the protagonist. Oh look, there is a special way to surpass it. No one knows and they just throw it in randomly just like failing an exam but you surpass anyway JUST BECAUSE. Plot device 101. If you couldn't tell from Iida foreshadowing UA planned on grading the students based on rescue points from the start. And its not like they broke the rules just for the protagonist. While he did get the most, its not like the other students didn't get rescue points too so you can't write it off as a plot device for the sake of the protagonist. So first you don't tell others that it exists then the protagonist surpasses it due to that.What will others think? He is favored and they made a special rule afterwards for it. Man, you failed at an exam but surpasses "just because" you have learned so hard for it even though you got zero points. Good job. They even explained that defeating it has no merit at the end of episode three. So they are actually lying? It is not any better and also proofs that my point. There is no merit-->destroys it-->passses exam God. First they tells the protagonist not to recue in episode two then they give him the pass in episode four for the same reason which is also done by lying. A heroic act has nothing to do with if ou actually got power or not. They shouted at him for acting like a hero. The same thing happened in episode four and he got praised, which is the exact opposite. He also putted himself at risk (passing the exam) in order to save someone. Also don't forget about the lying. You said it is so because the is no danger in the exam. What does a hero do? Putting himself in danger for others. If there is no danger then you got praised for, if there is then you got shouted at for it. That's how it works, don't save anyone when there is danger. Save whoever you want if there isn't danger and you can pass the exam with zero points because of it. So nope, it doesn't disapprove me. The situation in episode two is also one where he can save someone. God damn it. it's against their law to your power for combat without permission if you are still a student. He hasn't even have a power back then. Then how does that agument support you? I have said that a heroic act has nothing to do with power and they shouted at him for acting heroic. Then they let him pass the exam because of the same reason. (with lying beforehand). The school test says destroying that robot has no merit. So according to the actual law a hero needs a licence? You can't go and protect someone unless you got a licence? Don't protect anyone because you need a f*cking licence even if he might die. The law is about qualified heroes which students are not. Which is why they are in the school to begin with. He saved the life of hat guy because he got a snap of air. He protected him from dying. Shout at him because he saved a life. All I got from the image are not to use their powers as weapons. But it is self defense/saving lifes and not something for attacking. So it is not used as a weapon and the law is useless in this case. By the way, the main character haven't even got a power back then so the law is furthermore useless and don't support your perspective. Don't say he got shouted at because he has no power since we will only go in circles with this. doesn't let you use your power to hurt others even if it is to protect others and self defense. You have to be a qualified hero The law doesn't apply to him because he hasn't a power back then so he also don't need a f*cking licence. They shouted at him even though he acted heroic (which has nothing to do with power). Then let him pass because of the same reason with lying beforehand. The heroes can't do anything (as you can see) and even they are just standing there. He is acting 100% heroic and safed a life, which no one at that situation could (that person got a breath of air). He is also not reckless since you can see him using proper tactic. ZomiNimrod said: Fai said: everything in this, be it cinematography or characterization is just so...anime "wow this anime looks like an anime it sucks. 0/10" That's literally how you sound. I think that peron is saying that the show is generic. If the law doesn't matter then why do you mention it in the first place? He put himelf into a dangerous situation because he is going to safe someone. That is a heroic act. He is not recklesss because he used proper tactic. If he doesn't do that then that blonde guy is already dead due to lack of oxygen. He saved a life! Then they scold him and also lets him pass the exam because of the same reason. There's a fundamental difference between the acts in episode 2 and episode 4. In episode 2 he's a random kid with no quirk rushing to the scene of the crime, you can't say its not reckless because he used proper tactics. He's not batman he just threw his backpack at him hoping for the best. He was admonished because he, as a by standard, put his life on the line when this city already has an organized network of heroes to deal with crime. As one of the hereos shouted, he could have easily died in vain which is good for no one. In episode 4 he's no longer a by standard, he's a candidate being tested to become a hero. He was praised for his actions here because as All Might said and executed himself in episode 2, putting your life on the line to save others is a part of the job. So its pretty understandable that Midoryia was able to pass the exam by doing what he did. And i don't know why your so hung up about the rescue points thing, its not that the examiners were lying they just didn't tell them the whole truth, which is perfectly acceptable when you're attempting to test someone in a live situation. So saving a life only you could at that time is something to be scolded at. If he is reckless in episode two then he is also in episode four because his right arm and legs broke and nearly died due to the falling (and so much about the exam safety). It is not understandable that he passed it. There is no rule where they say "saving someone" or "destroying the robot" equals passing. They even lyed on that. It is something they come up afterwards which is actually against their own rule. He executed heroic acts both in ep2 and 4 (and successed) but the results are different because the plot says so. Wait, why don't we just let that healing hero heal All Might's wound? A heroic act has nothing to do with who you are. Both situations are dangerous, who knows that that girl is actually there? The main character also got himself nearly killed at the exam. Both situations are identic. The protagonist savd the person in both situations. Where comes randomly when he is clearly saving life and successed. The settings are also the same since the training ground should be simulation of the real, which makes these two situations comlpetely equal. Heroism is when you sacrifice yourself for doing others favor. He is in both situations a hero and got scolded in the first and praised for the latter one, for the sake of plot. To sum it all up (.. and I haven't read the manga) 1. The two situations are not identical. They just have similarities. 2. In ep 2, as you both previously mentioned, Deku was too reckless (even if he did have a strategy or wtv) to fight that villain without a quirk, thus making his "Heroic deed" or desire to do good look idiotic or reckless and useless to the heroes who were scolding him because it puts himself in danger. Yes, he did do a Heroic deed but it was for naught because he can't do shit without a quirk and he was in danger which could've gotten him killed and added to the casualties, and thus the heroes scolded him. Also, they probably (maybe) somewhat got guilty that a bystander was the one who acted first and took the heroic glory instead of them, thus making them look bad and therefore scolding him. It was probably a defense mechanism. LOL I was talking in circles, but I hope you understood some of it. 3. In ep 4, the 0 point-monster was a way for the academy to test the heroes "bravery" when it comes to facing danger. So of course they would not tell the students that there would be no merit to it, so that they could test that theory properly. It's called COVERT OBSERVATION, which literally means the subject doesn't know he/she is being watched or observed. But in this episode, they made it a mix of COVERT and CONTROLLED OBSERVATION which means that the researcher or observer does not tell his subjects that he/she is watching them/or their behavior in a controlled place or setting.... which translates to not telling your subjects what they are actually supposed to do (and maybe telling them something else) just to see how they would ACTUALLY AND REALISTICALLY react to a specific situation. The rescue points was added not because the plot says so but because as I have said above, it was some sort of experiment/test/research about how they would act in a specific situation knowing that it doesn't have any merits. (but it actually does, just not stated to them because it is an EXPERIMENT) Deku got praised for risking his life because: A.) they had Recovery girl on standby in case someone got hurt, so no ones in REAL REAL danger. B.) He already has a quirk, which means that he is not powerless in defending himself or killing 0-point-monster, therefore qualifying him to fight off a monster. [I don't have any knowhow about the laws or wtv, but by common sense, I think you should fight off a monster if you do have the "skills" or "qualifications" in fighting it off, meaning you have a (strong or decent) quirk of some sort to fend off a villain/monster/etc.] C.) It was a HERO test, a test of strength, wits, stamina, strategy and of course HEROISM. so the point is (if that was confusing lol): in ep 2 he got scolded because even if he did something "heroic" it was reckless and useless, because he was quirkless and puts his life in danger. in ep 4 he was praised because he did a heroic deed (that puts his life in danger) while he already has a (decent) quirk, qualifying him to fight off a villain and not being useless bystander which should not be involved in something so dangerous. I went in circles lmao so yeah..... Also, the one you said that Recovery girl should heal All Might is a good one, but I doubt All Might would tell people that because that would reveal the truth about his passed-on quirk, making him lose his pride or title of being a sign of peace or wtv. That is what we are discussing about and I can mentioned the exact same points which stands against it. Well dayum son, no need to use moah sig against me. Again, I'm just giving my say on the topic. I'm not sure which parts are contradictory to your standpoint but I just wanna point out that doing something heroic doesn't mean you can't get scolded by being reckless. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ That is something for example I am against. He saved someone who no one can at that situation and then they scold him. If my son did something stupid and reckless yet heroic, I too would be proud of him but also beat his ass off for doing that. |
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Thug_Gou said: Great ep! Finally got my adrenaline pumping and we got to see Deku in action! xD That slap in the face was awesome LOL So happy for Deku for passing the exam! :) and I SHIP THEEEEEEEEEM! woooot ♥ On to ep 5! :D kamisama751 said: Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The situations are nearly identical but the settings are not. The school is a training ground for those who want to become heroes and will make sure the students are safe meanwhile randomly putting yourself in danger by an actual villain is different.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: He was scolded for doing something dangerous even if he did save someone. However during the exam was different just because Recovery Girl was around for the exam to be a bit dangerous.FastnessofWheels said: kamisama751 said: Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: What part of the law isn't the problem he didn't do anything that got him in trouble he was lectured for putting himself in a dangerous situation. Not because he did something bad but because what he did was reckless and dangerous. Because if All Might didn't save him he would have possibly died.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I already said why he got shouted at it's because he put himself in danger. And even the law Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The robot isn't important it just created a situation. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Because during the exam they are have the qualifications to act as it is part of the schools test. But the actual law is different since you have to be qualified.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Which is why they scolded him for putting himself in a dangerous situation.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: It was danger during the exam but recovery girl is on standby and also minor spoiler Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: In episode 2 he was reckless, he had no power, and he couldn't do much besides put himself at risk. While in the exam he rescued someone which is part of the exam and it was no real danger as the heroes had recovery girl so they could go all out during the exam. There is no merit from the big villain but it created a situation where he was able to save someone by chance.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The thing is it's an exam they aren't going to give out all the answers also if the only thing you needed to do was destroy villains it wouldn't make for much of an exam. It was no merit in defeating the large one but it create a situation where he rescued someone from it. Deku proved himself to be a hero in that situation just like he did previously by reacting when no one else would.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: They are heroes. If they are told to rescue others during an exam it defeats the purpose of them aiming to be a hero. And the others are also aiming to be heroes so why would they complain when he has already proven himself to do the hero thing and sacrifice something to save someone else. The rescue points makes sense it's an exam villains are worth points yet the largest is worth 0 it was worth less should have been a hint that they were important for some reason.arms98 said: kamisama751 said: So what is the job of heroes? Protecting the law they made. What have they done? Breaking the own law they made just for the sake of the protagonist. Oh look, there is a special way to surpass it. No one knows and they just throw it in randomly just like failing an exam but you surpass anyway JUST BECAUSE. Plot device 101. If you couldn't tell from Iida foreshadowing UA planned on grading the students based on rescue points from the start. And its not like they broke the rules just for the protagonist. While he did get the most, its not like the other students didn't get rescue points too so you can't write it off as a plot device for the sake of the protagonist. So first you don't tell others that it exists then the protagonist surpasses it due to that.What will others think? He is favored and they made a special rule afterwards for it. Man, you failed at an exam but surpasses "just because" you have learned so hard for it even though you got zero points. Good job. They even explained that defeating it has no merit at the end of episode three. So they are actually lying? It is not any better and also proofs that my point. There is no merit-->destroys it-->passses exam God. First they tells the protagonist not to recue in episode two then they give him the pass in episode four for the same reason which is also done by lying. A heroic act has nothing to do with if ou actually got power or not. They shouted at him for acting like a hero. The same thing happened in episode four and he got praised, which is the exact opposite. He also putted himself at risk (passing the exam) in order to save someone. Also don't forget about the lying. You said it is so because the is no danger in the exam. What does a hero do? Putting himself in danger for others. If there is no danger then you got praised for, if there is then you got shouted at for it. That's how it works, don't save anyone when there is danger. Save whoever you want if there isn't danger and you can pass the exam with zero points because of it. So nope, it doesn't disapprove me. The situation in episode two is also one where he can save someone. God damn it. it's against their law to your power for combat without permission if you are still a student. He hasn't even have a power back then. Then how does that agument support you? I have said that a heroic act has nothing to do with power and they shouted at him for acting heroic. Then they let him pass the exam because of the same reason. (with lying beforehand). The school test says destroying that robot has no merit. So according to the actual law a hero needs a licence? You can't go and protect someone unless you got a licence? Don't protect anyone because you need a f*cking licence even if he might die. The law is about qualified heroes which students are not. Which is why they are in the school to begin with. He saved the life of hat guy because he got a snap of air. He protected him from dying. Shout at him because he saved a life. All I got from the image are not to use their powers as weapons. But it is self defense/saving lifes and not something for attacking. So it is not used as a weapon and the law is useless in this case. By the way, the main character haven't even got a power back then so the law is furthermore useless and don't support your perspective. Don't say he got shouted at because he has no power since we will only go in circles with this. doesn't let you use your power to hurt others even if it is to protect others and self defense. You have to be a qualified hero The law doesn't apply to him because he hasn't a power back then so he also don't need a f*cking licence. They shouted at him even though he acted heroic (which has nothing to do with power). Then let him pass because of the same reason with lying beforehand. The heroes can't do anything (as you can see) and even they are just standing there. He is acting 100% heroic and safed a life, which no one at that situation could (that person got a breath of air). He is also not reckless since you can see him using proper tactic. ZomiNimrod said: Fai said: everything in this, be it cinematography or characterization is just so...anime "wow this anime looks like an anime it sucks. 0/10" That's literally how you sound. I think that peron is saying that the show is generic. If the law doesn't matter then why do you mention it in the first place? He put himelf into a dangerous situation because he is going to safe someone. That is a heroic act. He is not recklesss because he used proper tactic. If he doesn't do that then that blonde guy is already dead due to lack of oxygen. He saved a life! Then they scold him and also lets him pass the exam because of the same reason. Why does this matter to you so much? It almost seems like you're trying to stir up a shit storm for no reason tbh. This is a discussion thread and I am discussing. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I understand that is a heroic act but the thing he almost got himself killed being reckless so they scolded him. While in this situations the heroes put them in danger purposely for the exam because they had RECOVERY GIRL nearby to treat injuries. While in the other situation deku would have died if not for all might saving him.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: What part of the law isn't the problem he didn't do anything that got him in trouble he was lectured for putting himself in a dangerous situation. Not because he did something bad but because what he did was reckless and dangerous. Because if All Might didn't save him he would have possibly died.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I already said why he got shouted at it's because he put himself in danger. And even the law Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The robot isn't important it just created a situation. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Because during the exam they are have the qualifications to act as it is part of the schools test. But the actual law is different since you have to be qualified.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Which is why they scolded him for putting himself in a dangerous situation.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: It was danger during the exam but recovery girl is on standby and also minor spoiler Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: In episode 2 he was reckless, he had no power, and he couldn't do much besides put himself at risk. While in the exam he rescued someone which is part of the exam and it was no real danger as the heroes had recovery girl so they could go all out during the exam. There is no merit from the big villain but it created a situation where he was able to save someone by chance.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The thing is it's an exam they aren't going to give out all the answers also if the only thing you needed to do was destroy villains it wouldn't make for much of an exam. It was no merit in defeating the large one but it create a situation where he rescued someone from it. Deku proved himself to be a hero in that situation just like he did previously by reacting when no one else would.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: They are heroes. If they are told to rescue others during an exam it defeats the purpose of them aiming to be a hero. And the others are also aiming to be heroes so why would they complain when he has already proven himself to do the hero thing and sacrifice something to save someone else. The rescue points makes sense it's an exam villains are worth points yet the largest is worth 0 it was worth less should have been a hint that they were important for some reason.arms98 said: kamisama751 said: So what is the job of heroes? Protecting the law they made. What have they done? Breaking the own law they made just for the sake of the protagonist. Oh look, there is a special way to surpass it. No one knows and they just throw it in randomly just like failing an exam but you surpass anyway JUST BECAUSE. Plot device 101. If you couldn't tell from Iida foreshadowing UA planned on grading the students based on rescue points from the start. And its not like they broke the rules just for the protagonist. While he did get the most, its not like the other students didn't get rescue points too so you can't write it off as a plot device for the sake of the protagonist. So first you don't tell others that it exists then the protagonist surpasses it due to that.What will others think? He is favored and they made a special rule afterwards for it. Man, you failed at an exam but surpasses "just because" you have learned so hard for it even though you got zero points. Good job. They even explained that defeating it has no merit at the end of episode three. So they are actually lying? It is not any better and also proofs that my point. There is no merit-->destroys it-->passses exam God. First they tells the protagonist not to recue in episode two then they give him the pass in episode four for the same reason which is also done by lying. A heroic act has nothing to do with if ou actually got power or not. They shouted at him for acting like a hero. The same thing happened in episode four and he got praised, which is the exact opposite. He also putted himself at risk (passing the exam) in order to save someone. Also don't forget about the lying. You said it is so because the is no danger in the exam. What does a hero do? Putting himself in danger for others. If there is no danger then you got praised for, if there is then you got shouted at for it. That's how it works, don't save anyone when there is danger. Save whoever you want if there isn't danger and you can pass the exam with zero points because of it. So nope, it doesn't disapprove me. The situation in episode two is also one where he can save someone. God damn it. it's against their law to your power for combat without permission if you are still a student. He hasn't even have a power back then. Then how does that agument support you? I have said that a heroic act has nothing to do with power and they shouted at him for acting heroic. Then they let him pass the exam because of the same reason. (with lying beforehand). The school test says destroying that robot has no merit. So according to the actual law a hero needs a licence? You can't go and protect someone unless you got a licence? Don't protect anyone because you need a f*cking licence even if he might die. The law is about qualified heroes which students are not. Which is why they are in the school to begin with. He saved the life of hat guy because he got a snap of air. He protected him from dying. Shout at him because he saved a life. All I got from the image are not to use their powers as weapons. But it is self defense/saving lifes and not something for attacking. So it is not used as a weapon and the law is useless in this case. By the way, the main character haven't even got a power back then so the law is furthermore useless and don't support your perspective. Don't say he got shouted at because he has no power since we will only go in circles with this. doesn't let you use your power to hurt others even if it is to protect others and self defense. You have to be a qualified hero The law doesn't apply to him because he hasn't a power back then so he also don't need a f*cking licence. They shouted at him even though he acted heroic (which has nothing to do with power). Then let him pass because of the same reason with lying beforehand. The heroes can't do anything (as you can see) and even they are just standing there. He is acting 100% heroic and safed a life, which no one at that situation could (that person got a breath of air). He is also not reckless since you can see him using proper tactic. ZomiNimrod said: Fai said: everything in this, be it cinematography or characterization is just so...anime "wow this anime looks like an anime it sucks. 0/10" That's literally how you sound. I think that peron is saying that the show is generic. If the law doesn't matter then why do you mention it in the first place? He put himelf into a dangerous situation because he is going to safe someone. That is a heroic act. He is not recklesss because he used proper tactic. If he doesn't do that then that blonde guy is already dead due to lack of oxygen. He saved a life! Then they scold him and also lets him pass the exam because of the same reason. I have also told you that he is the only person there that cold have saved the blond boy's life and he did it. Then they still scold him! Even if he put himselves in danger, no one (not event he heroes there) could have saved that boy besides him. He got scolded because he saved a life. My original statement isn't even the recue. God, how have we come to this. arms98 said: kamisama751 said: Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: What part of the law isn't the problem he didn't do anything that got him in trouble he was lectured for putting himself in a dangerous situation. Not because he did something bad but because what he did was reckless and dangerous. Because if All Might didn't save him he would have possibly died.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I already said why he got shouted at it's because he put himself in danger. And even the law Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The robot isn't important it just created a situation. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Because during the exam they are have the qualifications to act as it is part of the schools test. But the actual law is different since you have to be qualified.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Which is why they scolded him for putting himself in a dangerous situation.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: It was danger during the exam but recovery girl is on standby and also minor spoiler Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: In episode 2 he was reckless, he had no power, and he couldn't do much besides put himself at risk. While in the exam he rescued someone which is part of the exam and it was no real danger as the heroes had recovery girl so they could go all out during the exam. There is no merit from the big villain but it created a situation where he was able to save someone by chance.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The thing is it's an exam they aren't going to give out all the answers also if the only thing you needed to do was destroy villains it wouldn't make for much of an exam. It was no merit in defeating the large one but it create a situation where he rescued someone from it. Deku proved himself to be a hero in that situation just like he did previously by reacting when no one else would.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: They are heroes. If they are told to rescue others during an exam it defeats the purpose of them aiming to be a hero. And the others are also aiming to be heroes so why would they complain when he has already proven himself to do the hero thing and sacrifice something to save someone else. The rescue points makes sense it's an exam villains are worth points yet the largest is worth 0 it was worth less should have been a hint that they were important for some reason.arms98 said: kamisama751 said: So what is the job of heroes? Protecting the law they made. What have they done? Breaking the own law they made just for the sake of the protagonist. Oh look, there is a special way to surpass it. No one knows and they just throw it in randomly just like failing an exam but you surpass anyway JUST BECAUSE. Plot device 101. If you couldn't tell from Iida foreshadowing UA planned on grading the students based on rescue points from the start. And its not like they broke the rules just for the protagonist. While he did get the most, its not like the other students didn't get rescue points too so you can't write it off as a plot device for the sake of the protagonist. So first you don't tell others that it exists then the protagonist surpasses it due to that.What will others think? He is favored and they made a special rule afterwards for it. Man, you failed at an exam but surpasses "just because" you have learned so hard for it even though you got zero points. Good job. They even explained that defeating it has no merit at the end of episode three. So they are actually lying? It is not any better and also proofs that my point. There is no merit-->destroys it-->passses exam God. First they tells the protagonist not to recue in episode two then they give him the pass in episode four for the same reason which is also done by lying. A heroic act has nothing to do with if ou actually got power or not. They shouted at him for acting like a hero. The same thing happened in episode four and he got praised, which is the exact opposite. He also putted himself at risk (passing the exam) in order to save someone. Also don't forget about the lying. You said it is so because the is no danger in the exam. What does a hero do? Putting himself in danger for others. If there is no danger then you got praised for, if there is then you got shouted at for it. That's how it works, don't save anyone when there is danger. Save whoever you want if there isn't danger and you can pass the exam with zero points because of it. So nope, it doesn't disapprove me. The situation in episode two is also one where he can save someone. God damn it. it's against their law to your power for combat without permission if you are still a student. He hasn't even have a power back then. Then how does that agument support you? I have said that a heroic act has nothing to do with power and they shouted at him for acting heroic. Then they let him pass the exam because of the same reason. (with lying beforehand). The school test says destroying that robot has no merit. So according to the actual law a hero needs a licence? You can't go and protect someone unless you got a licence? Don't protect anyone because you need a f*cking licence even if he might die. The law is about qualified heroes which students are not. Which is why they are in the school to begin with. He saved the life of hat guy because he got a snap of air. He protected him from dying. Shout at him because he saved a life. All I got from the image are not to use their powers as weapons. But it is self defense/saving lifes and not something for attacking. So it is not used as a weapon and the law is useless in this case. By the way, the main character haven't even got a power back then so the law is furthermore useless and don't support your perspective. Don't say he got shouted at because he has no power since we will only go in circles with this. doesn't let you use your power to hurt others even if it is to protect others and self defense. You have to be a qualified hero The law doesn't apply to him because he hasn't a power back then so he also don't need a f*cking licence. They shouted at him even though he acted heroic (which has nothing to do with power). Then let him pass because of the same reason with lying beforehand. The heroes can't do anything (as you can see) and even they are just standing there. He is acting 100% heroic and safed a life, which no one at that situation could (that person got a breath of air). He is also not reckless since you can see him using proper tactic. ZomiNimrod said: Fai said: everything in this, be it cinematography or characterization is just so...anime "wow this anime looks like an anime it sucks. 0/10" That's literally how you sound. I think that peron is saying that the show is generic. If the law doesn't matter then why do you mention it in the first place? He put himelf into a dangerous situation because he is going to safe someone. That is a heroic act. He is not recklesss because he used proper tactic. If he doesn't do that then that blonde guy is already dead due to lack of oxygen. He saved a life! Then they scold him and also lets him pass the exam because of the same reason. There's a fundamental difference between the acts in episode 2 and episode 4. In episode 2 he's a random kid with no quirk rushing to the scene of the crime, you can't say its not reckless because he used proper tactics. He's not batman he just threw his backpack at him hoping for the best. He was admonished because he, as a by standard, put his life on the line when this city already has an organized network of heroes to deal with crime. As one of the hereos shouted, he could have easily died in vain which is good for no one. In episode 4 he's no longer a by standard, he's a candidate being tested to become a hero. He was praised for his actions here because as All Might said and executed himself in episode 2, putting your life on the line to save others is a part of the job. So its pretty understandable that Midoryia was able to pass the exam by doing what he did. And i don't know why your so hung up about the rescue points thing, its not that the examiners were lying they just didn't tell them the whole truth, which is perfectly acceptable when you're attempting to test someone in a live situation. So saving a life only you could at that time is something to be scolded at. If he is reckless in episode two then he is also in episode four because his right arm and legs broke and nearly died due to the falling (and so much about the exam safety). It is not understandable that he passed it. There is no rule where they say "saving someone" or "destroying the robot" equals passing. They even lyed on that. It is something they come up afterwards which is actually against their own rule. He executed heroic acts both in ep2 and 4 (and successed) but the results are different because the plot says so. Wait, why don't we just let that healing hero heal All Might's wound? A heroic act has nothing to do with who you are. Both situations are dangerous, who knows that that girl is actually there? The main character also got himself nearly killed at the exam. Both situations are identic. The protagonist savd the person in both situations. Where comes randomly when he is clearly saving life and successed. The settings are also the same since the training ground should be simulation of the real, which makes these two situations comlpetely equal. Heroism is when you sacrifice yourself for doing others favor. He is in both situations a hero and got scolded in the first and praised for the latter one, for the sake of plot. To sum it all up (.. and I haven't read the manga) 1. The two situations are not identical. They just have similarities. 2. In ep 2, as you both previously mentioned, Deku was too reckless (even if he did have a strategy or wtv) to fight that villain without a quirk, thus making his "Heroic deed" or desire to do good look idiotic or reckless and useless to the heroes who were scolding him because it puts himself in danger. Yes, he did do a Heroic deed but it was for naught because he can't do shit without a quirk and he was in danger which could've gotten him killed and added to the casualties, and thus the heroes scolded him. Also, they probably (maybe) somewhat got guilty that a bystander was the one who acted first and took the heroic glory instead of them, thus making them look bad and therefore scolding him. It was probably a defense mechanism. LOL I was talking in circles, but I hope you understood some of it. 3. In ep 4, the 0 point-monster was a way for the academy to test the heroes "bravery" when it comes to facing danger. So of course they would not tell the students that there would be no merit to it, so that they could test that theory properly. It's called COVERT OBSERVATION, which literally means the subject doesn't know he/she is being watched or observed. But in this episode, they made it a mix of COVERT and CONTROLLED OBSERVATION which means that the researcher or observer does not tell his subjects that he/she is watching them/or their behavior in a controlled place or setting.... which translates to not telling your subjects what they are actually supposed to do (and maybe telling them something else) just to see how they would ACTUALLY AND REALISTICALLY react to a specific situation. The rescue points was added not because the plot says so but because as I have said above, it was some sort of experiment/test/research about how they would act in a specific situation knowing that it doesn't have any merits. (but it actually does, just not stated to them because it is an EXPERIMENT) Deku got praised for risking his life because: A.) they had Recovery girl on standby in case someone got hurt, so no ones in REAL REAL danger. B.) He already has a quirk, which means that he is not powerless in defending himself or killing 0-point-monster, therefore qualifying him to fight off a monster. [I don't have any knowhow about the laws or wtv, but by common sense, I think you should fight off a monster if you do have the "skills" or "qualifications" in fighting it off, meaning you have a (strong or decent) quirk of some sort to fend off a villain/monster/etc.] C.) It was a HERO test, a test of strength, wits, stamina, strategy and of course HEROISM. so the point is (if that was confusing lol): in ep 2 he got scolded because even if he did something "heroic" it was reckless and useless, because he was quirkless and puts his life in danger. in ep 4 he was praised because he did a heroic deed (that puts his life in danger) while he already has a (decent) quirk, qualifying him to fight off a villain and not being useless bystander which should not be involved in something so dangerous. I went in circles lmao so yeah..... Also, the one you said that Recovery girl should heal All Might is a good one, but I doubt All Might would tell people that because that would reveal the truth about his passed-on quirk, making him lose his pride or title of being a sign of peace or wtv. You.... I like you! You gave us a really nicce summ up/explanation. I am curious what will you say about the next episode, especially because my favorite character (the homeroom teacher) makes his appearance! Have a nice day! |
Apr 27, 2016 7:42 AM
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kamisama751 said: Thug_Gou said: kamisama751 said: Thug_Gou said: kamisama751 said: Thug_Gou said: Great ep! Finally got my adrenaline pumping and we got to see Deku in action! xD That slap in the face was awesome LOL So happy for Deku for passing the exam! :) and I SHIP THEEEEEEEEEM! woooot ♥ On to ep 5! :D kamisama751 said: Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The situations are nearly identical but the settings are not. The school is a training ground for those who want to become heroes and will make sure the students are safe meanwhile randomly putting yourself in danger by an actual villain is different.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: He was scolded for doing something dangerous even if he did save someone. However during the exam was different just because Recovery Girl was around for the exam to be a bit dangerous.FastnessofWheels said: kamisama751 said: Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: What part of the law isn't the problem he didn't do anything that got him in trouble he was lectured for putting himself in a dangerous situation. Not because he did something bad but because what he did was reckless and dangerous. Because if All Might didn't save him he would have possibly died.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I already said why he got shouted at it's because he put himself in danger. And even the law Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The robot isn't important it just created a situation. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Because during the exam they are have the qualifications to act as it is part of the schools test. But the actual law is different since you have to be qualified.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Which is why they scolded him for putting himself in a dangerous situation.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: It was danger during the exam but recovery girl is on standby and also minor spoiler Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: In episode 2 he was reckless, he had no power, and he couldn't do much besides put himself at risk. While in the exam he rescued someone which is part of the exam and it was no real danger as the heroes had recovery girl so they could go all out during the exam. There is no merit from the big villain but it created a situation where he was able to save someone by chance.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The thing is it's an exam they aren't going to give out all the answers also if the only thing you needed to do was destroy villains it wouldn't make for much of an exam. It was no merit in defeating the large one but it create a situation where he rescued someone from it. Deku proved himself to be a hero in that situation just like he did previously by reacting when no one else would.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: They are heroes. If they are told to rescue others during an exam it defeats the purpose of them aiming to be a hero. And the others are also aiming to be heroes so why would they complain when he has already proven himself to do the hero thing and sacrifice something to save someone else. The rescue points makes sense it's an exam villains are worth points yet the largest is worth 0 it was worth less should have been a hint that they were important for some reason.arms98 said: kamisama751 said: So what is the job of heroes? Protecting the law they made. What have they done? Breaking the own law they made just for the sake of the protagonist. Oh look, there is a special way to surpass it. No one knows and they just throw it in randomly just like failing an exam but you surpass anyway JUST BECAUSE. Plot device 101. If you couldn't tell from Iida foreshadowing UA planned on grading the students based on rescue points from the start. And its not like they broke the rules just for the protagonist. While he did get the most, its not like the other students didn't get rescue points too so you can't write it off as a plot device for the sake of the protagonist. So first you don't tell others that it exists then the protagonist surpasses it due to that.What will others think? He is favored and they made a special rule afterwards for it. Man, you failed at an exam but surpasses "just because" you have learned so hard for it even though you got zero points. Good job. They even explained that defeating it has no merit at the end of episode three. So they are actually lying? It is not any better and also proofs that my point. There is no merit-->destroys it-->passses exam God. First they tells the protagonist not to recue in episode two then they give him the pass in episode four for the same reason which is also done by lying. A heroic act has nothing to do with if ou actually got power or not. They shouted at him for acting like a hero. The same thing happened in episode four and he got praised, which is the exact opposite. He also putted himself at risk (passing the exam) in order to save someone. Also don't forget about the lying. You said it is so because the is no danger in the exam. What does a hero do? Putting himself in danger for others. If there is no danger then you got praised for, if there is then you got shouted at for it. That's how it works, don't save anyone when there is danger. Save whoever you want if there isn't danger and you can pass the exam with zero points because of it. So nope, it doesn't disapprove me. The situation in episode two is also one where he can save someone. God damn it. it's against their law to your power for combat without permission if you are still a student. He hasn't even have a power back then. Then how does that agument support you? I have said that a heroic act has nothing to do with power and they shouted at him for acting heroic. Then they let him pass the exam because of the same reason. (with lying beforehand). The school test says destroying that robot has no merit. So according to the actual law a hero needs a licence? You can't go and protect someone unless you got a licence? Don't protect anyone because you need a f*cking licence even if he might die. The law is about qualified heroes which students are not. Which is why they are in the school to begin with. He saved the life of hat guy because he got a snap of air. He protected him from dying. Shout at him because he saved a life. All I got from the image are not to use their powers as weapons. But it is self defense/saving lifes and not something for attacking. So it is not used as a weapon and the law is useless in this case. By the way, the main character haven't even got a power back then so the law is furthermore useless and don't support your perspective. Don't say he got shouted at because he has no power since we will only go in circles with this. doesn't let you use your power to hurt others even if it is to protect others and self defense. You have to be a qualified hero The law doesn't apply to him because he hasn't a power back then so he also don't need a f*cking licence. They shouted at him even though he acted heroic (which has nothing to do with power). Then let him pass because of the same reason with lying beforehand. The heroes can't do anything (as you can see) and even they are just standing there. He is acting 100% heroic and safed a life, which no one at that situation could (that person got a breath of air). He is also not reckless since you can see him using proper tactic. ZomiNimrod said: Fai said: everything in this, be it cinematography or characterization is just so...anime "wow this anime looks like an anime it sucks. 0/10" That's literally how you sound. I think that peron is saying that the show is generic. If the law doesn't matter then why do you mention it in the first place? He put himelf into a dangerous situation because he is going to safe someone. That is a heroic act. He is not recklesss because he used proper tactic. If he doesn't do that then that blonde guy is already dead due to lack of oxygen. He saved a life! Then they scold him and also lets him pass the exam because of the same reason. Why does this matter to you so much? It almost seems like you're trying to stir up a shit storm for no reason tbh. This is a discussion thread and I am discussing. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I understand that is a heroic act but the thing he almost got himself killed being reckless so they scolded him. While in this situations the heroes put them in danger purposely for the exam because they had RECOVERY GIRL nearby to treat injuries. While in the other situation deku would have died if not for all might saving him.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: What part of the law isn't the problem he didn't do anything that got him in trouble he was lectured for putting himself in a dangerous situation. Not because he did something bad but because what he did was reckless and dangerous. Because if All Might didn't save him he would have possibly died.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I already said why he got shouted at it's because he put himself in danger. And even the law Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The robot isn't important it just created a situation. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Because during the exam they are have the qualifications to act as it is part of the schools test. But the actual law is different since you have to be qualified.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Which is why they scolded him for putting himself in a dangerous situation.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: It was danger during the exam but recovery girl is on standby and also minor spoiler Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: In episode 2 he was reckless, he had no power, and he couldn't do much besides put himself at risk. While in the exam he rescued someone which is part of the exam and it was no real danger as the heroes had recovery girl so they could go all out during the exam. There is no merit from the big villain but it created a situation where he was able to save someone by chance.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The thing is it's an exam they aren't going to give out all the answers also if the only thing you needed to do was destroy villains it wouldn't make for much of an exam. It was no merit in defeating the large one but it create a situation where he rescued someone from it. Deku proved himself to be a hero in that situation just like he did previously by reacting when no one else would.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: They are heroes. If they are told to rescue others during an exam it defeats the purpose of them aiming to be a hero. And the others are also aiming to be heroes so why would they complain when he has already proven himself to do the hero thing and sacrifice something to save someone else. The rescue points makes sense it's an exam villains are worth points yet the largest is worth 0 it was worth less should have been a hint that they were important for some reason.arms98 said: kamisama751 said: So what is the job of heroes? Protecting the law they made. What have they done? Breaking the own law they made just for the sake of the protagonist. Oh look, there is a special way to surpass it. No one knows and they just throw it in randomly just like failing an exam but you surpass anyway JUST BECAUSE. Plot device 101. If you couldn't tell from Iida foreshadowing UA planned on grading the students based on rescue points from the start. And its not like they broke the rules just for the protagonist. While he did get the most, its not like the other students didn't get rescue points too so you can't write it off as a plot device for the sake of the protagonist. So first you don't tell others that it exists then the protagonist surpasses it due to that.What will others think? He is favored and they made a special rule afterwards for it. Man, you failed at an exam but surpasses "just because" you have learned so hard for it even though you got zero points. Good job. They even explained that defeating it has no merit at the end of episode three. So they are actually lying? It is not any better and also proofs that my point. There is no merit-->destroys it-->passses exam God. First they tells the protagonist not to recue in episode two then they give him the pass in episode four for the same reason which is also done by lying. A heroic act has nothing to do with if ou actually got power or not. They shouted at him for acting like a hero. The same thing happened in episode four and he got praised, which is the exact opposite. He also putted himself at risk (passing the exam) in order to save someone. Also don't forget about the lying. You said it is so because the is no danger in the exam. What does a hero do? Putting himself in danger for others. If there is no danger then you got praised for, if there is then you got shouted at for it. That's how it works, don't save anyone when there is danger. Save whoever you want if there isn't danger and you can pass the exam with zero points because of it. So nope, it doesn't disapprove me. The situation in episode two is also one where he can save someone. God damn it. it's against their law to your power for combat without permission if you are still a student. He hasn't even have a power back then. Then how does that agument support you? I have said that a heroic act has nothing to do with power and they shouted at him for acting heroic. Then they let him pass the exam because of the same reason. (with lying beforehand). The school test says destroying that robot has no merit. So according to the actual law a hero needs a licence? You can't go and protect someone unless you got a licence? Don't protect anyone because you need a f*cking licence even if he might die. The law is about qualified heroes which students are not. Which is why they are in the school to begin with. He saved the life of hat guy because he got a snap of air. He protected him from dying. Shout at him because he saved a life. All I got from the image are not to use their powers as weapons. But it is self defense/saving lifes and not something for attacking. So it is not used as a weapon and the law is useless in this case. By the way, the main character haven't even got a power back then so the law is furthermore useless and don't support your perspective. Don't say he got shouted at because he has no power since we will only go in circles with this. doesn't let you use your power to hurt others even if it is to protect others and self defense. You have to be a qualified hero The law doesn't apply to him because he hasn't a power back then so he also don't need a f*cking licence. They shouted at him even though he acted heroic (which has nothing to do with power). Then let him pass because of the same reason with lying beforehand. The heroes can't do anything (as you can see) and even they are just standing there. He is acting 100% heroic and safed a life, which no one at that situation could (that person got a breath of air). He is also not reckless since you can see him using proper tactic. ZomiNimrod said: Fai said: everything in this, be it cinematography or characterization is just so...anime "wow this anime looks like an anime it sucks. 0/10" That's literally how you sound. I think that peron is saying that the show is generic. If the law doesn't matter then why do you mention it in the first place? He put himelf into a dangerous situation because he is going to safe someone. That is a heroic act. He is not recklesss because he used proper tactic. If he doesn't do that then that blonde guy is already dead due to lack of oxygen. He saved a life! Then they scold him and also lets him pass the exam because of the same reason. I have also told you that he is the only person there that cold have saved the blond boy's life and he did it. Then they still scold him! Even if he put himselves in danger, no one (not event he heroes there) could have saved that boy besides him. He got scolded because he saved a life. My original statement isn't even the recue. God, how have we come to this. arms98 said: kamisama751 said: Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: What part of the law isn't the problem he didn't do anything that got him in trouble he was lectured for putting himself in a dangerous situation. Not because he did something bad but because what he did was reckless and dangerous. Because if All Might didn't save him he would have possibly died.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I already said why he got shouted at it's because he put himself in danger. And even the law Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The robot isn't important it just created a situation. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Because during the exam they are have the qualifications to act as it is part of the schools test. But the actual law is different since you have to be qualified.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Which is why they scolded him for putting himself in a dangerous situation.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: It was danger during the exam but recovery girl is on standby and also minor spoiler Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: In episode 2 he was reckless, he had no power, and he couldn't do much besides put himself at risk. While in the exam he rescued someone which is part of the exam and it was no real danger as the heroes had recovery girl so they could go all out during the exam. There is no merit from the big villain but it created a situation where he was able to save someone by chance.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The thing is it's an exam they aren't going to give out all the answers also if the only thing you needed to do was destroy villains it wouldn't make for much of an exam. It was no merit in defeating the large one but it create a situation where he rescued someone from it. Deku proved himself to be a hero in that situation just like he did previously by reacting when no one else would.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: They are heroes. If they are told to rescue others during an exam it defeats the purpose of them aiming to be a hero. And the others are also aiming to be heroes so why would they complain when he has already proven himself to do the hero thing and sacrifice something to save someone else. The rescue points makes sense it's an exam villains are worth points yet the largest is worth 0 it was worth less should have been a hint that they were important for some reason.arms98 said: kamisama751 said: So what is the job of heroes? Protecting the law they made. What have they done? Breaking the own law they made just for the sake of the protagonist. Oh look, there is a special way to surpass it. No one knows and they just throw it in randomly just like failing an exam but you surpass anyway JUST BECAUSE. Plot device 101. If you couldn't tell from Iida foreshadowing UA planned on grading the students based on rescue points from the start. And its not like they broke the rules just for the protagonist. While he did get the most, its not like the other students didn't get rescue points too so you can't write it off as a plot device for the sake of the protagonist. So first you don't tell others that it exists then the protagonist surpasses it due to that.What will others think? He is favored and they made a special rule afterwards for it. Man, you failed at an exam but surpasses "just because" you have learned so hard for it even though you got zero points. Good job. They even explained that defeating it has no merit at the end of episode three. So they are actually lying? It is not any better and also proofs that my point. There is no merit-->destroys it-->passses exam God. First they tells the protagonist not to recue in episode two then they give him the pass in episode four for the same reason which is also done by lying. A heroic act has nothing to do with if ou actually got power or not. They shouted at him for acting like a hero. The same thing happened in episode four and he got praised, which is the exact opposite. He also putted himself at risk (passing the exam) in order to save someone. Also don't forget about the lying. You said it is so because the is no danger in the exam. What does a hero do? Putting himself in danger for others. If there is no danger then you got praised for, if there is then you got shouted at for it. That's how it works, don't save anyone when there is danger. Save whoever you want if there isn't danger and you can pass the exam with zero points because of it. So nope, it doesn't disapprove me. The situation in episode two is also one where he can save someone. God damn it. it's against their law to your power for combat without permission if you are still a student. He hasn't even have a power back then. Then how does that agument support you? I have said that a heroic act has nothing to do with power and they shouted at him for acting heroic. Then they let him pass the exam because of the same reason. (with lying beforehand). The school test says destroying that robot has no merit. So according to the actual law a hero needs a licence? You can't go and protect someone unless you got a licence? Don't protect anyone because you need a f*cking licence even if he might die. The law is about qualified heroes which students are not. Which is why they are in the school to begin with. He saved the life of hat guy because he got a snap of air. He protected him from dying. Shout at him because he saved a life. All I got from the image are not to use their powers as weapons. But it is self defense/saving lifes and not something for attacking. So it is not used as a weapon and the law is useless in this case. By the way, the main character haven't even got a power back then so the law is furthermore useless and don't support your perspective. Don't say he got shouted at because he has no power since we will only go in circles with this. doesn't let you use your power to hurt others even if it is to protect others and self defense. You have to be a qualified hero The law doesn't apply to him because he hasn't a power back then so he also don't need a f*cking licence. They shouted at him even though he acted heroic (which has nothing to do with power). Then let him pass because of the same reason with lying beforehand. The heroes can't do anything (as you can see) and even they are just standing there. He is acting 100% heroic and safed a life, which no one at that situation could (that person got a breath of air). He is also not reckless since you can see him using proper tactic. ZomiNimrod said: Fai said: everything in this, be it cinematography or characterization is just so...anime "wow this anime looks like an anime it sucks. 0/10" That's literally how you sound. I think that peron is saying that the show is generic. If the law doesn't matter then why do you mention it in the first place? He put himelf into a dangerous situation because he is going to safe someone. That is a heroic act. He is not recklesss because he used proper tactic. If he doesn't do that then that blonde guy is already dead due to lack of oxygen. He saved a life! Then they scold him and also lets him pass the exam because of the same reason. There's a fundamental difference between the acts in episode 2 and episode 4. In episode 2 he's a random kid with no quirk rushing to the scene of the crime, you can't say its not reckless because he used proper tactics. He's not batman he just threw his backpack at him hoping for the best. He was admonished because he, as a by standard, put his life on the line when this city already has an organized network of heroes to deal with crime. As one of the hereos shouted, he could have easily died in vain which is good for no one. In episode 4 he's no longer a by standard, he's a candidate being tested to become a hero. He was praised for his actions here because as All Might said and executed himself in episode 2, putting your life on the line to save others is a part of the job. So its pretty understandable that Midoryia was able to pass the exam by doing what he did. And i don't know why your so hung up about the rescue points thing, its not that the examiners were lying they just didn't tell them the whole truth, which is perfectly acceptable when you're attempting to test someone in a live situation. So saving a life only you could at that time is something to be scolded at. If he is reckless in episode two then he is also in episode four because his right arm and legs broke and nearly died due to the falling (and so much about the exam safety). It is not understandable that he passed it. There is no rule where they say "saving someone" or "destroying the robot" equals passing. They even lyed on that. It is something they come up afterwards which is actually against their own rule. He executed heroic acts both in ep2 and 4 (and successed) but the results are different because the plot says so. Wait, why don't we just let that healing hero heal All Might's wound? A heroic act has nothing to do with who you are. Both situations are dangerous, who knows that that girl is actually there? The main character also got himself nearly killed at the exam. Both situations are identic. The protagonist savd the person in both situations. Where comes randomly when he is clearly saving life and successed. The settings are also the same since the training ground should be simulation of the real, which makes these two situations comlpetely equal. Heroism is when you sacrifice yourself for doing others favor. He is in both situations a hero and got scolded in the first and praised for the latter one, for the sake of plot. To sum it all up (.. and I haven't read the manga) 1. The two situations are not identical. They just have similarities. 2. In ep 2, as you both previously mentioned, Deku was too reckless (even if he did have a strategy or wtv) to fight that villain without a quirk, thus making his "Heroic deed" or desire to do good look idiotic or reckless and useless to the heroes who were scolding him because it puts himself in danger. Yes, he did do a Heroic deed but it was for naught because he can't do shit without a quirk and he was in danger which could've gotten him killed and added to the casualties, and thus the heroes scolded him. Also, they probably (maybe) somewhat got guilty that a bystander was the one who acted first and took the heroic glory instead of them, thus making them look bad and therefore scolding him. It was probably a defense mechanism. LOL I was talking in circles, but I hope you understood some of it. 3. In ep 4, the 0 point-monster was a way for the academy to test the heroes "bravery" when it comes to facing danger. So of course they would not tell the students that there would be no merit to it, so that they could test that theory properly. It's called COVERT OBSERVATION, which literally means the subject doesn't know he/she is being watched or observed. But in this episode, they made it a mix of COVERT and CONTROLLED OBSERVATION which means that the researcher or observer does not tell his subjects that he/she is watching them/or their behavior in a controlled place or setting.... which translates to not telling your subjects what they are actually supposed to do (and maybe telling them something else) just to see how they would ACTUALLY AND REALISTICALLY react to a specific situation. The rescue points was added not because the plot says so but because as I have said above, it was some sort of experiment/test/research about how they would act in a specific situation knowing that it doesn't have any merits. (but it actually does, just not stated to them because it is an EXPERIMENT) Deku got praised for risking his life because: A.) they had Recovery girl on standby in case someone got hurt, so no ones in REAL REAL danger. B.) He already has a quirk, which means that he is not powerless in defending himself or killing 0-point-monster, therefore qualifying him to fight off a monster. [I don't have any knowhow about the laws or wtv, but by common sense, I think you should fight off a monster if you do have the "skills" or "qualifications" in fighting it off, meaning you have a (strong or decent) quirk of some sort to fend off a villain/monster/etc.] C.) It was a HERO test, a test of strength, wits, stamina, strategy and of course HEROISM. so the point is (if that was confusing lol): in ep 2 he got scolded because even if he did something "heroic" it was reckless and useless, because he was quirkless and puts his life in danger. in ep 4 he was praised because he did a heroic deed (that puts his life in danger) while he already has a (decent) quirk, qualifying him to fight off a villain and not being useless bystander which should not be involved in something so dangerous. I went in circles lmao so yeah..... Also, the one you said that Recovery girl should heal All Might is a good one, but I doubt All Might would tell people that because that would reveal the truth about his passed-on quirk, making him lose his pride or title of being a sign of peace or wtv. That is what we are discussing about and I can mentioned the exact same points which stands against it. Well dayum son, no need to use moah sig against me. Again, I'm just giving my say on the topic. I'm not sure which parts are contradictory to your standpoint but I just wanna point out that doing something heroic doesn't mean you can't get scolded by being reckless. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ That is something for example I am against. He saved someone who no one can at that situation and then they scold him. If my son did something stupid and reckless yet heroic, I too would be proud of him but also beat his ass off for doing that. Only if you have one in the firt place. If my son does that then I will infect him with a strange medicin which can turn him into a titan if he gets hurt. Well, I haven't one now. That was hypothetical anyways so..... :V |
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Apr 27, 2016 7:49 AM
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Thug_Gou said: Also, the one you said that Recovery girl should heal All Might is a good one, but I doubt All Might would tell people that because that would reveal the truth about his passed-on quirk, making him lose his pride or title of being a sign of peace or wtv. She can't heal him. She can only speed the recovery process hence the name, she can't return lost organs. |
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Apr 27, 2016 7:50 AM
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Stola said: Thug_Gou said: Great ep! Finally got my adrenaline pumping and we got to see Deku in action! xD That slap in the face was awesome LOL So happy for Deku for passing the exam! :) and I SHIP THEEEEEEEEEM! woooot ♥ On to ep 5! :D kamisama751 said: Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The situations are nearly identical but the settings are not. The school is a training ground for those who want to become heroes and will make sure the students are safe meanwhile randomly putting yourself in danger by an actual villain is different.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: He was scolded for doing something dangerous even if he did save someone. However during the exam was different just because Recovery Girl was around for the exam to be a bit dangerous.FastnessofWheels said: kamisama751 said: Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: What part of the law isn't the problem he didn't do anything that got him in trouble he was lectured for putting himself in a dangerous situation. Not because he did something bad but because what he did was reckless and dangerous. Because if All Might didn't save him he would have possibly died.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I already said why he got shouted at it's because he put himself in danger. And even the law Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The robot isn't important it just created a situation. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Because during the exam they are have the qualifications to act as it is part of the schools test. But the actual law is different since you have to be qualified.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Which is why they scolded him for putting himself in a dangerous situation.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: It was danger during the exam but recovery girl is on standby and also minor spoiler Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: In episode 2 he was reckless, he had no power, and he couldn't do much besides put himself at risk. While in the exam he rescued someone which is part of the exam and it was no real danger as the heroes had recovery girl so they could go all out during the exam. There is no merit from the big villain but it created a situation where he was able to save someone by chance.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The thing is it's an exam they aren't going to give out all the answers also if the only thing you needed to do was destroy villains it wouldn't make for much of an exam. It was no merit in defeating the large one but it create a situation where he rescued someone from it. Deku proved himself to be a hero in that situation just like he did previously by reacting when no one else would.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: They are heroes. If they are told to rescue others during an exam it defeats the purpose of them aiming to be a hero. And the others are also aiming to be heroes so why would they complain when he has already proven himself to do the hero thing and sacrifice something to save someone else. The rescue points makes sense it's an exam villains are worth points yet the largest is worth 0 it was worth less should have been a hint that they were important for some reason.arms98 said: kamisama751 said: So what is the job of heroes? Protecting the law they made. What have they done? Breaking the own law they made just for the sake of the protagonist. Oh look, there is a special way to surpass it. No one knows and they just throw it in randomly just like failing an exam but you surpass anyway JUST BECAUSE. Plot device 101. If you couldn't tell from Iida foreshadowing UA planned on grading the students based on rescue points from the start. And its not like they broke the rules just for the protagonist. While he did get the most, its not like the other students didn't get rescue points too so you can't write it off as a plot device for the sake of the protagonist. So first you don't tell others that it exists then the protagonist surpasses it due to that.What will others think? He is favored and they made a special rule afterwards for it. Man, you failed at an exam but surpasses "just because" you have learned so hard for it even though you got zero points. Good job. They even explained that defeating it has no merit at the end of episode three. So they are actually lying? It is not any better and also proofs that my point. There is no merit-->destroys it-->passses exam God. First they tells the protagonist not to recue in episode two then they give him the pass in episode four for the same reason which is also done by lying. A heroic act has nothing to do with if ou actually got power or not. They shouted at him for acting like a hero. The same thing happened in episode four and he got praised, which is the exact opposite. He also putted himself at risk (passing the exam) in order to save someone. Also don't forget about the lying. You said it is so because the is no danger in the exam. What does a hero do? Putting himself in danger for others. If there is no danger then you got praised for, if there is then you got shouted at for it. That's how it works, don't save anyone when there is danger. Save whoever you want if there isn't danger and you can pass the exam with zero points because of it. So nope, it doesn't disapprove me. The situation in episode two is also one where he can save someone. God damn it. it's against their law to your power for combat without permission if you are still a student. He hasn't even have a power back then. Then how does that agument support you? I have said that a heroic act has nothing to do with power and they shouted at him for acting heroic. Then they let him pass the exam because of the same reason. (with lying beforehand). The school test says destroying that robot has no merit. So according to the actual law a hero needs a licence? You can't go and protect someone unless you got a licence? Don't protect anyone because you need a f*cking licence even if he might die. The law is about qualified heroes which students are not. Which is why they are in the school to begin with. He saved the life of hat guy because he got a snap of air. He protected him from dying. Shout at him because he saved a life. All I got from the image are not to use their powers as weapons. But it is self defense/saving lifes and not something for attacking. So it is not used as a weapon and the law is useless in this case. By the way, the main character haven't even got a power back then so the law is furthermore useless and don't support your perspective. Don't say he got shouted at because he has no power since we will only go in circles with this. doesn't let you use your power to hurt others even if it is to protect others and self defense. You have to be a qualified hero The law doesn't apply to him because he hasn't a power back then so he also don't need a f*cking licence. They shouted at him even though he acted heroic (which has nothing to do with power). Then let him pass because of the same reason with lying beforehand. The heroes can't do anything (as you can see) and even they are just standing there. He is acting 100% heroic and safed a life, which no one at that situation could (that person got a breath of air). He is also not reckless since you can see him using proper tactic. ZomiNimrod said: Fai said: everything in this, be it cinematography or characterization is just so...anime "wow this anime looks like an anime it sucks. 0/10" That's literally how you sound. I think that peron is saying that the show is generic. If the law doesn't matter then why do you mention it in the first place? He put himelf into a dangerous situation because he is going to safe someone. That is a heroic act. He is not recklesss because he used proper tactic. If he doesn't do that then that blonde guy is already dead due to lack of oxygen. He saved a life! Then they scold him and also lets him pass the exam because of the same reason. Why does this matter to you so much? It almost seems like you're trying to stir up a shit storm for no reason tbh. This is a discussion thread and I am discussing. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I understand that is a heroic act but the thing he almost got himself killed being reckless so they scolded him. While in this situations the heroes put them in danger purposely for the exam because they had RECOVERY GIRL nearby to treat injuries. While in the other situation deku would have died if not for all might saving him.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: What part of the law isn't the problem he didn't do anything that got him in trouble he was lectured for putting himself in a dangerous situation. Not because he did something bad but because what he did was reckless and dangerous. Because if All Might didn't save him he would have possibly died.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I already said why he got shouted at it's because he put himself in danger. And even the law Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The robot isn't important it just created a situation. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Because during the exam they are have the qualifications to act as it is part of the schools test. But the actual law is different since you have to be qualified.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Which is why they scolded him for putting himself in a dangerous situation.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: It was danger during the exam but recovery girl is on standby and also minor spoiler Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: In episode 2 he was reckless, he had no power, and he couldn't do much besides put himself at risk. While in the exam he rescued someone which is part of the exam and it was no real danger as the heroes had recovery girl so they could go all out during the exam. There is no merit from the big villain but it created a situation where he was able to save someone by chance.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The thing is it's an exam they aren't going to give out all the answers also if the only thing you needed to do was destroy villains it wouldn't make for much of an exam. It was no merit in defeating the large one but it create a situation where he rescued someone from it. Deku proved himself to be a hero in that situation just like he did previously by reacting when no one else would.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: They are heroes. If they are told to rescue others during an exam it defeats the purpose of them aiming to be a hero. And the others are also aiming to be heroes so why would they complain when he has already proven himself to do the hero thing and sacrifice something to save someone else. The rescue points makes sense it's an exam villains are worth points yet the largest is worth 0 it was worth less should have been a hint that they were important for some reason.arms98 said: kamisama751 said: So what is the job of heroes? Protecting the law they made. What have they done? Breaking the own law they made just for the sake of the protagonist. Oh look, there is a special way to surpass it. No one knows and they just throw it in randomly just like failing an exam but you surpass anyway JUST BECAUSE. Plot device 101. If you couldn't tell from Iida foreshadowing UA planned on grading the students based on rescue points from the start. And its not like they broke the rules just for the protagonist. While he did get the most, its not like the other students didn't get rescue points too so you can't write it off as a plot device for the sake of the protagonist. So first you don't tell others that it exists then the protagonist surpasses it due to that.What will others think? He is favored and they made a special rule afterwards for it. Man, you failed at an exam but surpasses "just because" you have learned so hard for it even though you got zero points. Good job. They even explained that defeating it has no merit at the end of episode three. So they are actually lying? It is not any better and also proofs that my point. There is no merit-->destroys it-->passses exam God. First they tells the protagonist not to recue in episode two then they give him the pass in episode four for the same reason which is also done by lying. A heroic act has nothing to do with if ou actually got power or not. They shouted at him for acting like a hero. The same thing happened in episode four and he got praised, which is the exact opposite. He also putted himself at risk (passing the exam) in order to save someone. Also don't forget about the lying. You said it is so because the is no danger in the exam. What does a hero do? Putting himself in danger for others. If there is no danger then you got praised for, if there is then you got shouted at for it. That's how it works, don't save anyone when there is danger. Save whoever you want if there isn't danger and you can pass the exam with zero points because of it. So nope, it doesn't disapprove me. The situation in episode two is also one where he can save someone. God damn it. it's against their law to your power for combat without permission if you are still a student. He hasn't even have a power back then. Then how does that agument support you? I have said that a heroic act has nothing to do with power and they shouted at him for acting heroic. Then they let him pass the exam because of the same reason. (with lying beforehand). The school test says destroying that robot has no merit. So according to the actual law a hero needs a licence? You can't go and protect someone unless you got a licence? Don't protect anyone because you need a f*cking licence even if he might die. The law is about qualified heroes which students are not. Which is why they are in the school to begin with. He saved the life of hat guy because he got a snap of air. He protected him from dying. Shout at him because he saved a life. All I got from the image are not to use their powers as weapons. But it is self defense/saving lifes and not something for attacking. So it is not used as a weapon and the law is useless in this case. By the way, the main character haven't even got a power back then so the law is furthermore useless and don't support your perspective. Don't say he got shouted at because he has no power since we will only go in circles with this. doesn't let you use your power to hurt others even if it is to protect others and self defense. You have to be a qualified hero The law doesn't apply to him because he hasn't a power back then so he also don't need a f*cking licence. They shouted at him even though he acted heroic (which has nothing to do with power). Then let him pass because of the same reason with lying beforehand. The heroes can't do anything (as you can see) and even they are just standing there. He is acting 100% heroic and safed a life, which no one at that situation could (that person got a breath of air). He is also not reckless since you can see him using proper tactic. ZomiNimrod said: Fai said: everything in this, be it cinematography or characterization is just so...anime "wow this anime looks like an anime it sucks. 0/10" That's literally how you sound. I think that peron is saying that the show is generic. If the law doesn't matter then why do you mention it in the first place? He put himelf into a dangerous situation because he is going to safe someone. That is a heroic act. He is not recklesss because he used proper tactic. If he doesn't do that then that blonde guy is already dead due to lack of oxygen. He saved a life! Then they scold him and also lets him pass the exam because of the same reason. I have also told you that he is the only person there that cold have saved the blond boy's life and he did it. Then they still scold him! Even if he put himselves in danger, no one (not event he heroes there) could have saved that boy besides him. He got scolded because he saved a life. My original statement isn't even the recue. God, how have we come to this. arms98 said: kamisama751 said: Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: What part of the law isn't the problem he didn't do anything that got him in trouble he was lectured for putting himself in a dangerous situation. Not because he did something bad but because what he did was reckless and dangerous. Because if All Might didn't save him he would have possibly died.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: I already said why he got shouted at it's because he put himself in danger. And even the law Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The robot isn't important it just created a situation. Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Because during the exam they are have the qualifications to act as it is part of the schools test. But the actual law is different since you have to be qualified.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: Which is why they scolded him for putting himself in a dangerous situation.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: It was danger during the exam but recovery girl is on standby and also minor spoiler Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: In episode 2 he was reckless, he had no power, and he couldn't do much besides put himself at risk. While in the exam he rescued someone which is part of the exam and it was no real danger as the heroes had recovery girl so they could go all out during the exam. There is no merit from the big villain but it created a situation where he was able to save someone by chance.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: The thing is it's an exam they aren't going to give out all the answers also if the only thing you needed to do was destroy villains it wouldn't make for much of an exam. It was no merit in defeating the large one but it create a situation where he rescued someone from it. Deku proved himself to be a hero in that situation just like he did previously by reacting when no one else would.Jakerams said: kamisama751 said: They are heroes. If they are told to rescue others during an exam it defeats the purpose of them aiming to be a hero. And the others are also aiming to be heroes so why would they complain when he has already proven himself to do the hero thing and sacrifice something to save someone else. The rescue points makes sense it's an exam villains are worth points yet the largest is worth 0 it was worth less should have been a hint that they were important for some reason.arms98 said: kamisama751 said: So what is the job of heroes? Protecting the law they made. What have they done? Breaking the own law they made just for the sake of the protagonist. Oh look, there is a special way to surpass it. No one knows and they just throw it in randomly just like failing an exam but you surpass anyway JUST BECAUSE. Plot device 101. If you couldn't tell from Iida foreshadowing UA planned on grading the students based on rescue points from the start. And its not like they broke the rules just for the protagonist. While he did get the most, its not like the other students didn't get rescue points too so you can't write it off as a plot device for the sake of the protagonist. So first you don't tell others that it exists then the protagonist surpasses it due to that.What will others think? He is favored and they made a special rule afterwards for it. Man, you failed at an exam but surpasses "just because" you have learned so hard for it even though you got zero points. Good job. They even explained that defeating it has no merit at the end of episode three. So they are actually lying? It is not any better and also proofs that my point. There is no merit-->destroys it-->passses exam God. First they tells the protagonist not to recue in episode two then they give him the pass in episode four for the same reason which is also done by lying. A heroic act has nothing to do with if ou actually got power or not. They shouted at him for acting like a hero. The same thing happened in episode four and he got praised, which is the exact opposite. He also putted himself at risk (passing the exam) in order to save someone. Also don't forget about the lying. You said it is so because the is no danger in the exam. What does a hero do? Putting himself in danger for others. If there is no danger then you got praised for, if there is then you got shouted at for it. That's how it works, don't save anyone when there is danger. Save whoever you want if there isn't danger and you can pass the exam with zero points because of it. So nope, it doesn't disapprove me. The situation in episode two is also one where he can save someone. God damn it. it's against their law to your power for combat without permission if you are still a student. He hasn't even have a power back then. Then how does that agument support you? I have said that a heroic act has nothing to do with power and they shouted at him for acting heroic. Then they let him pass the exam because of the same reason. (with lying beforehand). The school test says destroying that robot has no merit. So according to the actual law a hero needs a licence? You can't go and protect someone unless you got a licence? Don't protect anyone because you need a f*cking licence even if he might die. The law is about qualified heroes which students are not. Which is why they are in the school to begin with. He saved the life of hat guy because he got a snap of air. He protected him from dying. Shout at him because he saved a life. All I got from the image are not to use their powers as weapons. But it is self defense/saving lifes and not something for attacking. So it is not used as a weapon and the law is useless in this case. By the way, the main character haven't even got a power back then so the law is furthermore useless and don't support your perspective. Don't say he got shouted at because he has no power since we will only go in circles with this. doesn't let you use your power to hurt others even if it is to protect others and self defense. You have to be a qualified hero The law doesn't apply to him because he hasn't a power back then so he also don't need a f*cking licence. They shouted at him even though he acted heroic (which has nothing to do with power). Then let him pass because of the same reason with lying beforehand. The heroes can't do anything (as you can see) and even they are just standing there. He is acting 100% heroic and safed a life, which no one at that situation could (that person got a breath of air). He is also not reckless since you can see him using proper tactic. ZomiNimrod said: Fai said: everything in this, be it cinematography or characterization is just so...anime "wow this anime looks like an anime it sucks. 0/10" That's literally how you sound. I think that peron is saying that the show is generic. If the law doesn't matter then why do you mention it in the first place? He put himelf into a dangerous situation because he is going to safe someone. That is a heroic act. He is not recklesss because he used proper tactic. If he doesn't do that then that blonde guy is already dead due to lack of oxygen. He saved a life! Then they scold him and also lets him pass the exam because of the same reason. There's a fundamental difference between the acts in episode 2 and episode 4. In episode 2 he's a random kid with no quirk rushing to the scene of the crime, you can't say its not reckless because he used proper tactics. He's not batman he just threw his backpack at him hoping for the best. He was admonished because he, as a by standard, put his life on the line when this city already has an organized network of heroes to deal with crime. As one of the hereos shouted, he could have easily died in vain which is good for no one. In episode 4 he's no longer a by standard, he's a candidate being tested to become a hero. He was praised for his actions here because as All Might said and executed himself in episode 2, putting your life on the line to save others is a part of the job. So its pretty understandable that Midoryia was able to pass the exam by doing what he did. And i don't know why your so hung up about the rescue points thing, its not that the examiners were lying they just didn't tell them the whole truth, which is perfectly acceptable when you're attempting to test someone in a live situation. So saving a life only you could at that time is something to be scolded at. If he is reckless in episode two then he is also in episode four because his right arm and legs broke and nearly died due to the falling (and so much about the exam safety). It is not understandable that he passed it. There is no rule where they say "saving someone" or "destroying the robot" equals passing. They even lyed on that. It is something they come up afterwards which is actually against their own rule. He executed heroic acts both in ep2 and 4 (and successed) but the results are different because the plot says so. Wait, why don't we just let that healing hero heal All Might's wound? A heroic act has nothing to do with who you are. Both situations are dangerous, who knows that that girl is actually there? The main character also got himself nearly killed at the exam. Both situations are identic. The protagonist savd the person in both situations. Where comes randomly when he is clearly saving life and successed. The settings are also the same since the training ground should be simulation of the real, which makes these two situations comlpetely equal. Heroism is when you sacrifice yourself for doing others favor. He is in both situations a hero and got scolded in the first and praised for the latter one, for the sake of plot. To sum it all up (.. and I haven't read the manga) 1. The two situations are not identical. They just have similarities. 2. In ep 2, as you both previously mentioned, Deku was too reckless (even if he did have a strategy or wtv) to fight that villain without a quirk, thus making his "Heroic deed" or desire to do good look idiotic or reckless and useless to the heroes who were scolding him because it puts himself in danger. Yes, he did do a Heroic deed but it was for naught because he can't do shit without a quirk and he was in danger which could've gotten him killed and added to the casualties, and thus the heroes scolded him. Also, they probably (maybe) somewhat got guilty that a bystander was the one who acted first and took the heroic glory instead of them, thus making them look bad and therefore scolding him. It was probably a defense mechanism. LOL I was talking in circles, but I hope you understood some of it. 3. In ep 4, the 0 point-monster was a way for the academy to test the heroes "bravery" when it comes to facing danger. So of course they would not tell the students that there would be no merit to it, so that they could test that theory properly. It's called COVERT OBSERVATION, which literally means the subject doesn't know he/she is being watched or observed. But in this episode, they made it a mix of COVERT and CONTROLLED OBSERVATION which means that the researcher or observer does not tell his subjects that he/she is watching them/or their behavior in a controlled place or setting.... which translates to not telling your subjects what they are actually supposed to do (and maybe telling them something else) just to see how they would ACTUALLY AND REALISTICALLY react to a specific situation. The rescue points was added not because the plot says so but because as I have said above, it was some sort of experiment/test/research about how they would act in a specific situation knowing that it doesn't have any merits. (but it actually does, just not stated to them because it is an EXPERIMENT) Deku got praised for risking his life because: A.) they had Recovery girl on standby in case someone got hurt, so no ones in REAL REAL danger. B.) He already has a quirk, which means that he is not powerless in defending himself or killing 0-point-monster, therefore qualifying him to fight off a monster. [I don't have any knowhow about the laws or wtv, but by common sense, I think you should fight off a monster if you do have the "skills" or "qualifications" in fighting it off, meaning you have a (strong or decent) quirk of some sort to fend off a villain/monster/etc.] C.) It was a HERO test, a test of strength, wits, stamina, strategy and of course HEROISM. so the point is (if that was confusing lol): in ep 2 he got scolded because even if he did something "heroic" it was reckless and useless, because he was quirkless and puts his life in danger. in ep 4 he was praised because he did a heroic deed (that puts his life in danger) while he already has a (decent) quirk, qualifying him to fight off a villain and not being useless bystander which should not be involved in something so dangerous. I went in circles lmao so yeah..... Also, the one you said that Recovery girl should heal All Might is a good one, but I doubt All Might would tell people that because that would reveal the truth about his passed-on quirk, making him lose his pride or title of being a sign of peace or wtv. You.... I like you! You gave us a really nicce summ up/explanation. I am curious what will you say about the next episode, especially because my favorite character (the homeroom teacher) makes his appearance! Have a nice day! Haha thanks xD but... Sorry man/woman. But my mind just goes to #BEASTMODE when I have something to defend about lol. But on other days, it's just filled with rainbow unicorns, ikemen, and bad puns. I hope I say something good in the next ep haha. Have a nice day to you too! |
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Apr 27, 2016 7:51 AM
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tsudecimo said: Thug_Gou said: Also, the one you said that Recovery girl should heal All Might is a good one, but I doubt All Might would tell people that because that would reveal the truth about his passed-on quirk, making him lose his pride or title of being a sign of peace or wtv. She can't heal him. She can only speed the recovery process hence the name, she can't return lost organs. Well damn spoilers. xD But ok then. Thanks for the info! EDit: sorry for the the double-post -_- |
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Apr 27, 2016 7:53 AM
#275
Thug_Gou said: tsudecimo said: Thug_Gou said: Also, the one you said that Recovery girl should heal All Might is a good one, but I doubt All Might would tell people that because that would reveal the truth about his passed-on quirk, making him lose his pride or title of being a sign of peace or wtv. She can't heal him. She can only speed the recovery process hence the name, she can't return lost organs. Well damn spoilers. xD But ok then. Thanks for the info! That's not a spoiler both pieces of infos were mentioned in the current episodes. |
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Apr 27, 2016 8:00 AM
#276
tsudecimo said: Thug_Gou said: tsudecimo said: Thug_Gou said: Also, the one you said that Recovery girl should heal All Might is a good one, but I doubt All Might would tell people that because that would reveal the truth about his passed-on quirk, making him lose his pride or title of being a sign of peace or wtv. She can't heal him. She can only speed the recovery process hence the name, she can't return lost organs. Well damn spoilers. xD But ok then. Thanks for the info! That's not a spoiler both pieces of infos were mentioned in the current episodes. oh were they? I probably didn't notice it. :? |
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Apr 27, 2016 10:05 AM
#277
Thug_Gou said: 2. In ep 2, as you both previously mentioned, Deku was too reckless (even if he did have a strategy or wtv) to fight that villain without a quirk, thus making his "Heroic deed" or desire to do good look idiotic or reckless and useless to the heroes who were scolding him because it puts himself in danger. Yes, he did do a Heroic deed but it was for naught because he can't do shit without a quirk and he was in danger which could've gotten him killed and added to the casualties, and thus the heroes scolded him. Also, they probably (maybe) somewhat got guilty that a bystander was the one who acted first and took the heroic glory instead of them, thus making them look bad and therefore scolding him. It was probably a defense mechanism. LOL I was talking in circles, but I hope you understood some of it. I got the impression that their criticism was supposed to be taken as ironic in the sense that the powerless nobody showed greater courage than the supposed actual heroes. Even though his action was rationally stupid, ep 4 reminds the viewer that the most important trait of a hero is putting aside one's own interests for those of another, and that's the part that many heroes (students or otherwise) don't seem to understand |
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Apr 27, 2016 10:15 AM
#278
Quirkiness101 said: Thug_Gou said: 2. In ep 2, as you both previously mentioned, Deku was too reckless (even if he did have a strategy or wtv) to fight that villain without a quirk, thus making his "Heroic deed" or desire to do good look idiotic or reckless and useless to the heroes who were scolding him because it puts himself in danger. Yes, he did do a Heroic deed but it was for naught because he can't do shit without a quirk and he was in danger which could've gotten him killed and added to the casualties, and thus the heroes scolded him. Also, they probably (maybe) somewhat got guilty that a bystander was the one who acted first and took the heroic glory instead of them, thus making them look bad and therefore scolding him. It was probably a defense mechanism. LOL I was talking in circles, but I hope you understood some of it. I got the impression that their criticism was supposed to be taken as ironic in the sense that the powerless nobody showed greater courage than the supposed actual heroes. Even though his action was rationally stupid, ep 4 reminds the viewer that the most important trait of a hero is putting aside one's own interests for those of another, and that's the part that many heroes (students or otherwise) don't seem to understand You are both right actually (in my opinion). Oh yes, they don't understand it (I would like to say they forget about it, but usually you don't forget about things like this....) I always make a facepalm when I read/see Iida's reaction: ,,Only if it wasn't an exam!" Damn boy, it doesn't matter if it's an exam or not. sigh.... |
Apr 27, 2016 11:55 AM
#279
Stola said: Quirkiness101 said: Thug_Gou said: 2. In ep 2, as you both previously mentioned, Deku was too reckless (even if he did have a strategy or wtv) to fight that villain without a quirk, thus making his "Heroic deed" or desire to do good look idiotic or reckless and useless to the heroes who were scolding him because it puts himself in danger. Yes, he did do a Heroic deed but it was for naught because he can't do shit without a quirk and he was in danger which could've gotten him killed and added to the casualties, and thus the heroes scolded him. Also, they probably (maybe) somewhat got guilty that a bystander was the one who acted first and took the heroic glory instead of them, thus making them look bad and therefore scolding him. It was probably a defense mechanism. LOL I was talking in circles, but I hope you understood some of it. I got the impression that their criticism was supposed to be taken as ironic in the sense that the powerless nobody showed greater courage than the supposed actual heroes. Even though his action was rationally stupid, ep 4 reminds the viewer that the most important trait of a hero is putting aside one's own interests for those of another, and that's the part that many heroes (students or otherwise) don't seem to understand You are both right actually (in my opinion). Oh yes, they don't understand it (I would like to say they forget about it, but usually you don't forget about things like this....) I always make a facepalm when I read/see Iida's reaction: ,,Only if it wasn't an exam!" Damn boy, it doesn't matter if it's an exam or not. sigh.... See I think that he did realize at the end. The imagery used by the animators is big there |
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Apr 27, 2016 7:31 PM
#280
| AMAZING AMAZING! This episode was so epic! That ending!!! Those tears of happiness, that girl is so nice. Damn i dropped a tear when she started crying and begging to give 1 point to him. And then the judges did the right choice, 10/10 ;) |
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Apr 28, 2016 1:44 AM
#282
| That "One for All" is obviously a "The three musketeers" reference, and that's the only thing that keeps me from dropping this anime, honestly. |
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Apr 28, 2016 7:17 AM
#283
ttcchen said: even so, the tournament is very different from the other similar ones. i find it enjoyable even after watching dozens of tournaments like those in fairy tail, yuyu hakusho, hxh etc Oh I definitely agree, but judging by how many people these days just trash a show just for using classic tropes without caring about how the writers executed it... |
Apr 28, 2016 9:01 AM
#284
fatalystic said: And once this anime becomes popular, they'll start talking shit about it when they didn't even give it a chance in the first place. It happens all the time. How sad.ttcchen said: even so, the tournament is very different from the other similar ones. i find it enjoyable even after watching dozens of tournaments like those in fairy tail, yuyu hakusho, hxh etc Oh I definitely agree, but judging by how many people these days just trash a show just for using classic tropes without caring about how the writers executed it... |
Apr 28, 2016 1:49 PM
#285
| Another thoroughly entertaining episode. Loved it. |
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Apr 28, 2016 10:36 PM
#286
| Second part was really emotional, I had almost cry. The animation and the OSTs are epic. Deku is a true hero :) |
Apr 29, 2016 8:35 AM
#287
| so far I think he is so annoying, never read its manga but maybe without sound it will be less annoying, LOL. |
Apr 30, 2016 12:12 AM
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Apr 30, 2016 10:16 AM
#289
| I'm liking this so far, which is surprising because I usually don't like superhero/capeshit-themed stuff. The writing feels a bit forced in terms of trying to constantly bring the viewer to tears (it doesn't) and is overall not like "OMG BEST ANIME EVUR I LIKED IT SLIGHTLY SO 10/10" but it is good fun and my favourite show of the season out of the ones I've watched. |
Apr 30, 2016 1:47 PM
#290
| Deku is such a great, relate-able character. I'm glad thinks are starting to look up for him. Each episode causes me to have a lot of ~ f e e l i n g s ~ and get all emotional. |
Apr 30, 2016 6:02 PM
#291
| The OST is so good. The content is getting better but it's too slow-paced for my liking :/ it's still alright nonetheless. |
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Apr 30, 2016 7:18 PM
#292
| finally deku used his power and smashed the hell out of that 30m tall giant robot thing. however with this he fucked his body to the point where only his one arm wasn't broken. but he got a kiss from the nurse as compensation lol. he passed the exam and i've to say that the emotional parts are well done even though it's an shonen anime that focuses on other topics than drama but still i think that the storytelling in this show is on a bigger level that's why other aspects can also shine. can't wait for the next episode. |
May 1, 2016 8:07 AM
#293
ttcchen said: tsudecimo said: ttcchen said: tsudecimo said: 88 chapters in, there is no time skip. (except the training in episode 3)I3rawler said: Kinda wish this series gets to a point similar to TTGL that Izuku and the others are a lot older and it could be so great (well yeah it's a pretty shounen-like development) - well, maybe in the manga someday! Maybe I should start reading it after this anime ends :D There will be eventually a time skip. Because this is Izuku telling the story how he became a top hero. The author is also a fan of DB and Naruto, so I think it's a safe bet. I said there will be one, didn't say it already happened.. hopefully there will be one. I want to see a izuku with less round eyes...and a more mature, less scowling bakugou There won't be any timeskip because it's Hero ACADEMIA. It will end with their graduation. |
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May 1, 2016 8:48 AM
#294
| Absolutely loved the episode, got me right in the feels |
May 2, 2016 7:26 AM
#295
| I didn't dislike the episode, and i still plan to watch it until the end, though I'm kinda bothered by izuku's personality. So far I have yet to see an episode where izuku isn't seen crying his eyes out. I mean, I get where he's coming from. He wanted so badly to become a hero, but the fact that he was born quirkless is getting in the way of his dream, and people always seem to put him down for wanting what they think is the impossible. And yes, it kinda got me at first episode. But still, I think it was pretty unnecessary for him to cry all the damn time to the point where I stopped feeling sorry for him. Other than that, storywise, I think it's going pretty great, and I look forward to izuku's growth as a character. I hope he can change my mind as the episode continues. |
May 2, 2016 8:05 AM
#296
Stranger213 said: I didn't dislike the episode, and i still plan to watch it until the end, though I'm kinda bothered by izuku's personality. So far I have yet to see an episode where izuku isn't seen crying his eyes out. I mean, I get where he's coming from. He wanted so badly to become a hero, but the fact that he was born quirkless is getting in the way of his dream, and people always seem to put him down for wanting what they think is the impossible. And yes, it kinda got me at first episode. But still, I think it was pretty unnecessary for him to cry all the damn time to the point where I stopped feeling sorry for him. Other than that, storywise, I think it's going pretty great, and I look forward to izuku's growth as a character. I hope he can change my mind as the episode continues. It only seem like he is crying excessively because the anime is going at a really slow pace. It's been less than 5 chapters, so if you were reading the manga it would barely annoy or seem like it's too much. What is just a couple of panels or a page at the most of crying are several minutes in anime form. |
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May 2, 2016 8:25 AM
#297
tsudecimo said: Stranger213 said: I didn't dislike the episode, and i still plan to watch it until the end, though I'm kinda bothered by izuku's personality. So far I have yet to see an episode where izuku isn't seen crying his eyes out. I mean, I get where he's coming from. He wanted so badly to become a hero, but the fact that he was born quirkless is getting in the way of his dream, and people always seem to put him down for wanting what they think is the impossible. And yes, it kinda got me at first episode. But still, I think it was pretty unnecessary for him to cry all the damn time to the point where I stopped feeling sorry for him. Other than that, storywise, I think it's going pretty great, and I look forward to izuku's growth as a character. I hope he can change my mind as the episode continues. It only seem like he is crying excessively because the anime is going at a really slow pace. It's been less than 5 chapters, so if you were reading the manga it would barely annoy or seem like it's too much. What is just a couple of panels or a page at the most of crying are several minutes in anime form. I didn't really read the manga since I don't have enough time to do so now, so maybe you're right |
May 2, 2016 9:22 PM
#298
| Midoriyama reminds me of Tsuna those 2 are practically the same |
May 4, 2016 2:40 AM
#299
| Ochako is so cute x3 I kinda knew that would happen lol, 60 points! |
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