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| My main complaint about this episode is that why did the revolutionaries prioritized loading Axmann's wounded right-hand man on a stretcher instead of Iris? And why didn't they rush her to the hospital when they have more than enough time to take her in a scenic view of the city? |
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| I suspected Theodor was the mastermind behind Total Eclipse because of his striking resemblance. No evidence from this anime :/ |
| If ppl want to have a different ending in the series, you look into this, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaxCLSclB74, when this is available, you can get it on steam. |
GemHunter said: Plz Don't make a secound season! Even though I wouldn't mind) This was a Great Experience and as much as I would love it to continue, I feel like there is not much left to do, all that would be left is fighting the BETA and maybe a new party rasing to power. Exactly, The Euro Front will come next. |
GemHunter said: You Are not even Wrong... and I don't Know if I like it or not, but If they can Push(Really Hard!) Schwarzenmaken for 1 more season(which as much as it hurts I doubt it), then I'll be satisfied with that story line so we can jump to The Euro Front. they can adapt Bernhard im Schatten, which 10 years earlier before Schwarzesmarken. |
| I've learned 1 thing on this episode. People dying and still have a chit-chat for long time also easly to breathe, lol. Shit happened when Irisdina was gone :( why Irisdina why. Overall is pretty good, but seems like rushed. A good point is i didnt watch Muv-Luv, and still understood for the story. |
| Everything was great, the plot was great. But, Irisdina's death is stupid beyond relief. They could have easily saved her from those wounds. If they dared to modify Gretel's survival, they could have done a bit more for Irisdina and just let her live happily. 9/10, loved Schwarzesmarken. But...Iris, oh God. Let her rest in peace |
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ma2ha3 said: very nice, great BETA anime. A lot of people died, typical BETA. Just the Incest part, a bit strange. She might be stasi. but i bang her, so she is with us now. That is a tough sell. Probably ban in USA tv network. Not incest, he was adopted. Anyway, the whole season felt a bit rushed here and there... You LN people, is my feeling true? |
| Like robots? Then watch getter robot :D |
| .............. there goes 2nd best girl. You just couldn't help yourself could you Muv-Luv? I bet if there were about just 3 mins remaining you'd still make sure to kill Iris in that time. This wasn't necessary, although admittedly it was a beautiful death scene... So Theodor's lost Lise, Iris and he ended up a bigger war hero than before & one of the people entrusted with the country's future. A bittersweet ending but still, #FeelsBadMan on a personal level. Still makes you wonder what would've happened if he removed himself from the conflict together with Lise & go live together in some other part of the world. Oh yea, and R.I.P. Walter & Sylvia too. As expected, if one died, the other was gonna follow. But damn it Walter, you died for the sake of getting rid of a gun... It's like one when you get a team mate in League who suicides while trying to do something useful but fails for the most part & goes "WORTH!" in chat. T'was a great ride overall & quite a bit better than Total Eclipse(which I still enjoyed). 2-cours would've served Schwarzesmarken great in order to get some solid characterization on everyone from 666, or at least more on Iris but considering the time restraints of adapting what I hear to be a fairly long LN with only 12 eps to work with, this was pretty solid, IMO. |
firezero10 said: Iris's death seems kind of improperly done....It would be so much better if they had the conversation in the mech while rushing to find medical facilities. Not sure about the LN or VN, but killing off Iris seems like forced sad ending. I am okay with MCs dying but it really needs to be for a good reason. Overall a good anime. Way better than so many harem crap or complete disasters like valvrape and a/z If you make the right route in VN, she is alive somehow. |
| Actually a good ending for a franchise where hots chicks die when they get killed. The ending is way better than MLA Total Eclipse which shit me.... They can end the series here. No more second season. |
#CHEXIT |
| Satisfying ending. Hope to see more anime like this. Should I have the same expectations if ever I'll watch Muv-Luv Alternative TE? |
| kind of generic, which is a shame because it has quite a unique setting. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| Solid 8/10. Even with all the cliche and character deaths. It managed to bring in something new to the genre. |
| RIP Irisdina. But seriously though. When help came Irisdina should just find cover and ignore Axmann but instead, she decided to chase him down risking her life.This is better than the Total Eclipse. |
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
| This is another one of those show's that were going strong for the first 11 episodes... and then messed it up at the very end (Grimgar had the same problem, IMO). Seriously, can someone who's read the LN or played the VN please tell the rest of us here if this is exactly how things went down in those mediums? Did they actually get Irisdina shot, spend XX amount of time to tell Katia AND Theodore, spend XX amount of time to get both characters TO Irisdina, when all that amount of time COULD have been better used to call an ambulance, send her to the nearest hospital and get her treatment that should potentially save her life?!?!! As much as I like this show, this single illogical plot point irks the hell out of me. I would have believed it if they'd administered first aid on her stomach and still explained that she wouldn't make it, but since they didn't even do that, the entire setup for Iris' final moments just made for a really ironically stupid scene trying to squeeze tears from unthinking, mindless viewers. I don't buy it, and I'm sure all the people who are complaining about it don't either. On the whole, I understand the history of reuniting East Germany with West Germany, as well as the aid of the Western powers in doing so to create a collective front to push back the immediate threat of BETA. I appreciate the triumph of the revolution built on Westernized ideals over a tyrannical political system under Stasi rule which exploits familial and other relationships. Those were all well and good as plot points to push the story forward, and did well to paint Axemanns ambitions. Despite it all, however, I cannot come to understand how Beatrix was roped into such ideals, when those Stasi ways are specifically what created the situation where Iris had to shoot her own brother... Why would she believe that such a system that killed her one and only beloved person would be the right one? Question for those who read the VN/LN.... does the game/books explain everything better? And are they still ongooing, or have the stories here actually ended? I wouldn't mind watching a second season, but with no actual political strife, the main focus for anything after that would purely be Humanity against the BETA... |
L-RyoshiMar 28, 2016 6:52 AM
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Can Kousei play the piano despite injuries? |
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ixarising said: Hmm i hope this short preview helps in your question if the VN/LN explains thing better or in a greater detail. For one i'll guarantee that people will love the Lise there more than the anime. She was actually fairly interesting till she betrayed the squad... Katia was initially annoying or rather i should say delusional cause she actually believes that she can save everyone by working together. And the VN, 2nd part of it has 3 routes but i won't really expect much of a happy ending in it since this is Muv-Luv, the story which provide love in the form of tragedy. Thanks for the preview. I really wouldn't mind trying out the VN myself after watching that. The scene I'm asking about specifically though, was when Irisdina died though. Was it really explained in the VN how taking her to a hospital would be a waste of time, and that she'd die anyway? Because I think for me and many of those posing the questions here, it just seems like one or two bullets to the stomach, if she'd been rushed to the hospital immediately after that firefight, shouldn't have been enough to kill her. What I'm wondering specifically is whether there was an explanation in the VN as to why they didn't immediately lift her over to a hospital and rather just spent so much time watching the sunrise waiting for her to die... |
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| Oh yea, forgot to add. I think we should all give proper mention to Anett for being that one person you don't want on your team when shit starts to go down. Let's see: - Get's that blonde chick at the beginning killed(btw does the author enjoy killing off all the blondes or something?), Inghild I believe. - Get's Sylvia killed(you could say Walter dies as a result of that but that's his fault for going yolo on Beatrix so imma pass this one). - Fails to help Iris by throwing her a gun instead of shooting Axmann herself(c'mon, her firearm skills can't be THAT bad). She seems fun to be around during downtime though, just not as a comrade-in-arms. |
Great_Manatee said: I really wish they would've given Beatrix, Iris, and Jurgen a quick flashback so that their relationship was more clear. That moment when you realized that worst girl was actually best girl 0_0 Nah, my best girl will always be the poor imouto |
L-Ryoshi said: The scene I'm asking about specifically though, was when Irisdina died though. Was it really explained in the VN how taking her to a hospital would be a waste of time, and that she'd die anyway? Because I think for me and many of those posing the questions here, it just seems like one or two bullets to the stomach, if she'd been rushed to the hospital immediately after that firefight, shouldn't have been enough to kill her. What I'm wondering specifically is whether there was an explanation in the VN as to why they didn't immediately lift her over to a hospital and rather just spent so much time watching the sunrise waiting for her to die... He's forgetting to mention that the demo is on steam green light and should be available soon. Possibly sometime in april if my predictions are correct, i have reason to suspect Yu's prologue in Total Eclipse will also be available. I don't know to what extent but i do know this anime was intended to be different from the VN and LN, clearly from start to finish as you can get an idea from that preview. This was advertised in CR/ANN articles i do believe. And yes the ending is drastically different not nearly as happy either to give you an idea. Irisdina can die another way actually and i'm pretty sure there's no option to end up in a stalemate with axxman, he's too important to go out like that. Far too important. And what i mean by this ending is too happy is the beta invade in the end, it's what makes Schwarzesmarken relevant in the time line and.. let's just say there's a reason there's a master in Total Eclipse. Still for an alternate telling/alternate route unique to the ln or vn i was quite pleased with the results 1-11 episode 12 was satisfying enough to not reflect my score. We might have extra scenes to look forward to with the bluray as well, but that's just me being optimistic. Considering the ridiculous amount of patch work that was done on Total Eclipse even if it was just a repair job essentially i could see them putting an equal amount of effort into making the final version of Schwarzesmarken tv better.  Here's what should have happened. in 1985 the beta advance across Europe now progressing unchecked. West Germany and France fall to the BETA invasion. England begins battle preparations for the defense of the UK mainland. |
StormVanguardMar 28, 2016 1:10 PM
| I will take a quick note never to expect more than embarassment from any spinoff of the original MuvLuv trilogy. First Total Eclipse, now this. |
StormVanguard said: L-Ryoshi said: The scene I'm asking about specifically though, was when Irisdina died though. Was it really explained in the VN how taking her to a hospital would be a waste of time, and that she'd die anyway? Because I think for me and many of those posing the questions here, it just seems like one or two bullets to the stomach, if she'd been rushed to the hospital immediately after that firefight, shouldn't have been enough to kill her. What I'm wondering specifically is whether there was an explanation in the VN as to why they didn't immediately lift her over to a hospital and rather just spent so much time watching the sunrise waiting for her to die... He's forgetting to mention that the demo is on steam green light and should be available soon. Possibly sometime in april if my predictions are correct, i have reason to suspect Yu's prologue in Total Eclipse will also be available. I don't know to what extent but i do know this anime was intended to be different from the VN and LN, clearly from start to finish as you can get an idea from that preview. This was advertised in CR/ANN articles i do believe. And yes the ending is drastically different not nearly as happy either to give you an idea. Irisdina can die another way actually and i'm pretty sure there's no option to end up in a stalemate with axxman, he's too important to go out like that. Far too important. And what i mean by this ending is too happy is the beta invade in the end, it's what makes Schwarzesmarken relevant in the time line and.. let's just say there's a reason there's a master in Total Eclipse. Still for an alternate telling/alternate route unique to the ln or vn i was quite pleased with the results 1-11 episode 12 was satisfying enough to not reflect my score. We might have extra scenes to look forward to with the bluray as well, but that's just me being optimistic. Considering the ridiculous amount of patch work that was done on Total Eclipse even if it was just a repair job essentially i could see them putting an equal amount of effort into making the final version of Schwarzesmarken tv better. Here's what should have happened. in 1985 the beta advance across Europe now progressing unchecked. West Germany and France fall to the BETA invasion. England begins battle preparations for the defense of the UK mainland. Isn't that what The Euro Front start? |
Yes.  The point is to get across the The fall of the Oder-Neisse Defence Line happened in 1984 and events progressed as the BETA were allowed access in Western Europe territory leading up to the events of euro front. |
A round of applause for the best character of the series, MiG-27, for acting as a worthy chariot for the best of Stasi. I love that dark beast of a TSF. And it's true wielder, a woman almost as awesome as the mech itself, Beatrix(-sama)!  I wonder, what prompted her to use East Germany as a glorified shield for the world in the beginning? In that respect, an OVA or two would be welcome. As an antagonist, Beatrix was indeed a rather respectable character. As for the episode itself, it was indeed excellent. Combat scenes, though not exactly Gundam-tier footage, were still rather enjoyable. After all, a mecha frenzy featuring knife-fighting always gets my blood boiling. The way in which they concluded the series was also quite satisfying, leaving no major lingering doubts. Aside the fact that Irisdina should have been provided medical attention... |
Argyre said: A round of applause for the best character of the series, MiG-27, for acting as a worthy chariot for the best of Stasi. I love that dark beast of a TSF. As 4ch would say. coughs and clears throat putting on a pair of reading glasses pulling out a piece of paper. Mig-27 a shit MiG-23 Cheburashka mai waifu.  |
StormVanguardMar 28, 2016 2:49 PM
| Hey guy, if you loved her, how about taking her to the HOSPITAL??!! That aside, this anime was very, very good! I loved the pacing, tension,, drama, and the fan service was nowhere near as gratuitous as it was in the original series. The characters were also pretty engaging. Well done to all who made this show a reality. |
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