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Feb 19, 2016 5:51 PM
#1
I've been wondering about this for a while. I tend to find that anime has butt angles to please the male audience but doesn't do anything for the female audience. 4/10 anime I come across, or start to watch, just gives boobs and butts and so I then drop it. But what I'm wondering is why anime tends to go for a male audience. If I watch an anime now it would have bikinis and stuff and I would find that normal, so why doesn't it have shirtless guys to please the female audience? (Free :3) I'm not saying there is no anime that does this for women (Free :3) I'm just saying there's SO MUCH more butts in a casual anime than shirtless guys. At first I thought maybe it was just the difference between Shojo and Shounen, but it's not. I saw an anime recently that wasn't shounen but was for the male audience. And I've seen some Shounen (Like Assasination Classroom) which doesn't do this. I'm starting to feel that anime is a bit sexist. But meh. This isn't a complain or a rant, I'm just curious. |
Feb 19, 2016 5:52 PM
#2
Because the Japanese male market is much higher... of course. |
Feb 19, 2016 5:56 PM
#3
Here's some recommendations if you're thirsty http://myanimelist.net/anime/23037/Bakumatsu_Rock http://myanimelist.net/anime/27727/Binan_Koukou_Chikyuu_Bouei-bu_LOVE http://myanimelist.net/anime/31174/Osomatsu-san http://myanimelist.net/anime/28171/Shokugeki_no_Souma http://myanimelist.net/anime/10321/Uta_no%E2%98%86Prince-sama%E2%99%AA_Maji_Love_1000 http://myanimelist.net/anime/22/Prince_of_Tennis http://myanimelist.net/anime/11771/Kuroko_no_Basket http://myanimelist.net/anime/32031/IDOLiSH7__Leopard_Eyes_TRIGGER http://myanimelist.net/anime/21563/Kamigami_no_Asobi Unfortunately, that's about it when it comes to manservice. Can't really think of any others. |
Feb 19, 2016 5:56 PM
#4
What CapitalistGod said, but more and more anime IS being made with female audiences in mind. Personally, I prefer anime that doesn't try too hard to pander to any demographic or gender. |
Feb 19, 2016 5:56 PM
#5
Because you could argue that more Japanese males tend to Buy more and more watch more anime. |
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Feb 19, 2016 5:57 PM
#6
You're not looking very hard. Step out of the Harem/Ecchi/Shounen genre and your results may vary. |
Feb 19, 2016 5:57 PM
#7
An_anon said: although, most female-targeted shows are very light on fanservice and focus more on voice actor casting and fluff over sex.What CapitalistGod said, but more and more anime IS being made with female audiences in mind. Anticlimatic said: Look at Utapri, Osomatsu, Kekkai Sessen, and Free! disc sales and say that again.Because you could argue that more Japanese males tend to Buy more and more watch more anime. |
Feb 19, 2016 5:58 PM
#8
Anticlimatic said: Because you could argue that more Japanese males tend to Buy more and more watch more anime. This is false, considering Haikyuu, Kuroko, Yowapeda, Free, etc. sales numbers. And don't get me started on Osomatsu's sales. |
Feb 19, 2016 5:59 PM
#9
Well you're watching too many light novel adaptions I guess. |
Feb 19, 2016 6:00 PM
#10
Your right in a sense that anime does seem to cater to more of a male audience FrozenJemima. But there are anime that does the same thing for the female audience as well, so it does go both ways however it might just be a bigger male demographic that watches anime so the industry just goes that way. |
Feb 19, 2016 6:02 PM
#11
First of all, why do do you think it's sexist to glorify the female body, when you seem perfectly fine with glorifying the male body? Or is it just because there seemingly isn't fan service parity? Shounen is anime aimed at young males. An anime can still have a male target audience without being classified as a shounen. And vice versa of course. But anyhow, I think it's because the womanly shape is deemed more sexy than the male, by both genders even. I read somewhere that the most popular category of porn women watch is lesbian. And I don't know about you, but I see a lot of shirtless guys in anime, especially in shows filled to the brim with fan service like Fairy Tail. Almost every guy there is shirtless. |
Feb 19, 2016 6:03 PM
#12
Guys are more likely to watch more I guess. |
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Feb 19, 2016 6:04 PM
#13
Itadakimasuuuu said: You're not looking very hard. Step out of the Harem/Ecchi/Shounen genre and your results may vary. What this guy said. There are plenty of titles that don't shove T&A in your face. lol |
Feb 19, 2016 6:07 PM
#14
Its actually always been like that: People tend to assume that women are a bit harder to please and aren't supposed to express sexuality (somewhere back in the 1800s horniness in women was considered to be a disease which doctors had to cure by literally fingering them and calling it a medical procedure). Even though there's none of that bullshit these days, a lot of women tend to be very closed off about their sexuality. But I think that's changing pretty quick. Anyways, I don't think you've noticed it but a lot of shounen shows have a bit of manservice in them, it's just that there aren't many shows that completely focus on manservice like we have for males.. |
Feb 19, 2016 6:09 PM
#15
as an artist with other artistic friends i can tell you that men (including me) LOVE to draw idealized girls/women not only from a sexual point of view, but womens bodies are generally more interesting to draw and being from a country where sexual content is open, well most anime is made by straight men, so yea theyre gonna want their girls to be as attractive as possible to please themselves and other straight men and most straight men probably don't want to draw or see a guys ass or crotch or w/e just look on an anime picture site.... 80% of artwork is of female characters but im glad to see girls/women thirsting over anime guys.... idk, more straight women should make anime, thing is less guys will watch those shows look at how many guys hate twighlight and free..... well i wonder why.... lol however, it is true that anime tends to be more popular when it appeals to both sexes, but thats just cause it obviously increases the number of viewers |
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Feb 19, 2016 6:10 PM
#16
Because male are perverts who will buy loli and waifu merchandise |
Feb 19, 2016 6:15 PM
#17
GreenSoap said: First of all, why do do you think it's sexist to glorify the female body, when you seem perfectly fine with glorifying the male body? Or is it just because there seemingly isn't fan service parity? Shounen is anime aimed at young males. An anime can still have a male target audience without being classified as a shounen. And vice versa of course. But anyhow, I think it's because the womanly shape is deemed more sexy than the male, by both genders even. I read somewhere that the most popular category of porn women watch is lesbian. And I don't know about you, but I see a lot of shirtless guys in anime, especially in shows filled to the brim with fan service like Fairy Tail. Almost every guy there is shirtless. I'm not saying that the fact the show the female body is sexist. Theres just more anime that shows females than males. I'm not saying I really enjoy anime aimed at females, I'm just saying there is more for the male audience than the female. |
Feb 19, 2016 6:16 PM
#18
The same reason books do. Most marketers think guys don't like reading stuff that is "for girls", but girls don't mind reading stuff "for guys". Aiming for guys allegedly gives you double the audience that aiming for girls does. |
Feb 19, 2016 6:17 PM
#19
I swear it had to do with the same reason why games generally catered to male. |
Feb 19, 2016 6:22 PM
#20
FrozenJemima said: I'm not saying that the fact the show the female body is sexist. Theres just more anime that shows females than males. I'm not saying I really enjoy anime aimed at females, I'm just saying there is more for the male audience than the female. on the subject of shows having more sexy girls than men well isn't it proven that men are just generally way hornier than women? i mean lets be real here...... women tend to want lot more out of a man than men want out of a woman so its probably going to be alot easier to get a guy to watch something by throwing in attractive women than it is the opposite idk im not a woman plus men NEED fap material women don't women don't have to work to not have to fap |
Feb 19, 2016 6:23 PM
#21
Chiibi said: Itadakimasuuuu said: You're not looking very hard. Step out of the Harem/Ecchi/Shounen genre and your results may vary. What this guy said. There are plenty of titles that don't shove T&A in your face. lol I thought we all were in it for the tits and ass? I guess we have different priorities, you and I. OT: Free is just fan-service................................. You need to look harder ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
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Feb 19, 2016 6:25 PM
#22
To put it out there If you want anime that are targeted at males but doesn't have fanservice Seinen are either tame with fanservice or there's none at all. Kaiji Ultimate Survivor, One Punch Man, ERASED, Baccano, Black Lagoon, Gungrave, Hellsing Ultimate has no fanservice as far as I remember. Berserk has some nudity but it's not for fanservice reasons. If you want to see some hot dudes watch Jojo's Bizarre Adventure, only manservice here Or, some shounen. Hunter X Hunter 2011, Kekkai Sensen, InuYasha, Fullmetal Alchemist, Yuu Yuu Hakusho, Black Butler, or pretty much any sports show in existance. dunno which of these you may have watched but really though I hope this helps. They're all great shows without having to shove boobs and ass in your face while still catering to male audiences. |
Feb 19, 2016 6:27 PM
#23
actually girls get plenty enough fap material thru drama cds because girls are all voice perverts apparently :^) |
Feb 19, 2016 6:27 PM
#24
Mayuka said: 😅 and more of these will continue to An_anon said: although, most female-targeted shows are very light on fanservice and focus more on voice actor casting and fluff over sex.What CapitalistGod said, but more and more anime IS being made with female audiences in mind. Anticlimatic said: Look at Utapri, Osomatsu, Kekkai Sessen, and Free! disc sales and say that again.Because you could argue that more Japanese males tend to Buy more and more watch more anime. Come in the future. |
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Feb 19, 2016 6:29 PM
#25
Shounen is the most common anime demographic; shoujo is the most common manga demographic. There are also anime like Precure which are meant to appeal to both girls and men. Shugo Chara! has Ikuto. He even has his own fanpage with 1600 members http://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=1655. There are also anime like HxH and Kuroko no Basket which are made for young boys but have hot guys which appeal to young women. |
Feb 19, 2016 6:30 PM
#26
An_anon said: haha true, them osomatsu sales are worthAnticlimatic said: Because you could argue that more Japanese males tend to Buy more and more watch more anime. This is false, considering Haikyuu, Kuroko, Yowapeda, Free, etc. sales numbers. And don't get me started on Osomatsu's sales. Talking about don't you agree. 😀 |
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Feb 19, 2016 6:31 PM
#27
Main audience is heterosexual male Japanese otakus, guys are more turned on visually than girls thus there will be obviously more fanservice catered towards males. |
Feb 19, 2016 6:32 PM
#28
FrozenJemima said: Yeah which is the other option I asked if it was: I'm not saying that the fact the show the female body is sexist. Theres just more anime that shows females than males. GreenSoap said: Or is it just because there seemingly isn't fan service parity? I honestly don't see how it not being 50/50 is sexist in any way whatsoever. There are with most likelyhood a multitude of factors to the fact that it's not 50/50. It's incredibly stupid to attribute it to sexism without showing any reason as to why it would be so. |
Feb 19, 2016 6:33 PM
#29
For statistics sake, none of the 580 shoujo anime are tagged as ecchi. If you don't want things targeted to boys then watch anime targeted to girls. Kezone said: The fanbases of My Little Pony and Precure would say otherwise.The same reason books do. Most marketers think guys don't like reading stuff that is "for girls", but girls don't mind reading stuff "for guys". Aiming for guys allegedly gives you double the audience that aiming for girls does. |
Feb 19, 2016 6:46 PM
#30
the only sexist part of any anime is the ridiculous head pats!!! ...and also dxd |
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Feb 19, 2016 6:52 PM
#31
Watch shows that don't have that kind off stuff, easy |
Feb 19, 2016 6:53 PM
#32
RDW said: No, only morons think like that. u_uDo guys think that we really just need to flash a bit of boob and that's it? Guys will fall at our knees? |
Feb 19, 2016 6:57 PM
#33
It's true though that it wouldn't really take work for a good looking and physically attractive woman to attract male attention. |
Feb 19, 2016 6:59 PM
#34
DrGeroCreation said: And the same could be said for attractive males as well.It's true though that it wouldn't really take work for a good looking and physically attractive woman to attract male attention. |
Feb 19, 2016 7:03 PM
#35
uh... wow.. .. maybe our culture is....... different..... ...... thats gotta be it...... i dont want to go a certain route, but i will if i have to.... lol its pretty damn obvious that some guys from my culture have NO STANDARDS sorry.... i can only speak from the culture im most used to.... lol |
Feb 19, 2016 7:04 PM
#36
RDW said: True but society generally expects men to make the first move and put in most of the work in courting.DrGeroCreation said: And the same could be said for attractive males as well.It's true though that it wouldn't really take work for a good looking and physically attractive woman to attract male attention. |
Feb 19, 2016 7:09 PM
#37
DrGeroCreation said: I guess so, but you could argue that it's seen as desperate if a girl makes the first move. Times are changing along with gender roles now though.RDW said: True but society generally expects men to make the first move and put in most of the work in courting.DrGeroCreation said: It's true though that it wouldn't really take work for a good looking and physically attractive woman to attract male attention. |
Feb 19, 2016 7:10 PM
#38
OT: The market was believed to be compiled of mostly males. The industry has started to slowly shift towards making more shows pandering to the female demographic in the past few years. There will be a growth of fujoshi pandering shows. |
TyrelFeb 22, 2016 5:00 PM
I'm also filled with pure-hearted ulterior motives. |
Feb 19, 2016 7:12 PM
#39
On topic, OP you have to step out of the harem/ecchi genres to see less ass and boob shots. EDIT: Recently there have been more shows for the female audience. The ladies have Free!, Osomatsu-san, KnB, etc. |
PoeticJustice said: nigga i am black, do you think my ass would fit in? "Oh look it is negro kun." Hell no. |
Feb 19, 2016 7:20 PM
#40
RDW said: Not really and there is some progress but guys are still more held to traditional gender roles when it comes to dating than females. If a guy doesn't pay or offer to pay for the date he's seen as a cheapskate even if he was the one that was asked out. Society places a lot of pressure on men when it comes to attracting the opposite gender.DrGeroCreation said: I guess so, but you could argue that it's seen as desperate if a girl makes the first move. Times are changing along with gender roles now though.RDW said: DrGeroCreation said: And the same could be said for attractive males as well.It's true though that it wouldn't really take work for a good looking and physically attractive woman to attract male attention. |
Feb 19, 2016 7:54 PM
#41
Mamster, where do you live, if you don't mind me asking? |
Feb 19, 2016 8:20 PM
#42
Attack on Titan has a lot of female fans due to Levi it seems. But that may have less to do with "female fans", but rather with "fujoshi", because they seem to be the no. 1 target audience among females in Japan. |
Feb 19, 2016 8:30 PM
#43
CapitalistGod said: Wow, it's like someone answered all of life's mysteries in 30 characters or less!Because the Japanese male market is much higher... of course. Yeah OP I wouldn't let it eat at you, it's just the nature of the business. There's no political message of sexual objectification or subservience, it's just there because it sells. But if you insist, I recommend watching baseball anime. You're guaranteed to get an ass shot of the pitcher at least once every few episodes. |
Feb 19, 2016 8:31 PM
#44
Mayuka said: Ouch that insult and generalization there Mauka. How do you know this guy is a fat, sleazy otaku?am i not allowed to yearn for love just like you fat, sleazy otaku men? Mayuka said: It's not wrong but unrealistic to expect anime to focus as much or more on hot guys than hot girls because as I said the main target audience is heterosexual male otakus.why is it wrong for females to want love and anime with hot guys? |
Feb 19, 2016 8:32 PM
#45
Mamster-P said: I thought you meant women dont need fap material. My wrong here sorry.Xilly said: No, just because the fap material is different doesnt mean women dont need it. i don't get what you're trying to say here? OT: just search for more anime, it's there because it sells. |
Feb 19, 2016 8:32 PM
#46
DrGeroCreation said: Are you dismissing the entire population of 30 year old virgin girls who live off their yaoi doujinshi?as I said the main target audience is heterosexual male otakus. Xilly said: That's what he said though. lmaoMamster-P said: I thought you meant women dont need fap material. My wrong here sorry.Xilly said: No, just because the fap material is different doesnt mean women dont need it. i don't get what you're trying to say here? Ratohnhaketon said: Even better, crotch grabbing.But if you insist, I recommend watching baseball anime. You're guaranteed to get an ass shot of the pitcher at least once every few episodes. DrGeroCreation said: It's just a joke broMayuka said: Ouch that insult and generalization there Mauka. How do you know this guy is a fat, sleazy otaku?am i not allowed to yearn for love just like you fat, sleazy otaku men? |
Feb 19, 2016 8:34 PM
#47
Ratohnhaketon said: But if you insist, I recommend watching baseball anime. You're guaranteed to get an ass shot of the pitcher at least once every few episodes. I cracked up with this one... seriously... Thanks for quoting me...lol |
Feb 19, 2016 8:35 PM
#48
@Mayuka I doubt it's as large as the male otaku fanbase. My mistake it seemed like a plain directed insult not a joke to elicit any form of laughter whatsoever. |
Feb 19, 2016 8:36 PM
#49
Feb 19, 2016 8:39 PM
#50
Xilly said: @Mayuka well, i havent read what you guys are going on from the start but according to this all im saying is men generally need more fap material than women do I think he meant women do need fap material but men need it more. No? that is pretty much what im saying.... i guess im just assuming that the average person would rather fuck than fap.... lol |
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