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Nov 22, 2015 6:50 PM
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One staple of the Casual Discussion culture are male posters seeking to generalize the behavior of women, blame them, and generally demonstrate some sort of righteously justified need.

It is a foregone conclusion that these posters are generally wrong, and motivated by negative emotions. My question is this: What can be done in response to such examples of toxic masculinity?

On the one hand, people expressing such opinions are obviously angry and feel disempowered. So should the goal be to aid these people? Or are they actually the root of the problem?
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Nov 22, 2015 6:51 PM
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I think we all need a hug.

Nov 22, 2015 6:51 PM
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Leave CD
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Ignore it, because they're alt accounts who have the intention of preaching shitty messages and intoxicating the community. Report their threads and wait until mods come.

Like seriously, whoever agrees with the shit they're saying is probably retarded.
Nov 22, 2015 6:53 PM
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Seriously. Fuck half of the threads and posts in CD right now.
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A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
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Nov 22, 2015 6:54 PM
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Ask Waste and Disposal to get rid of them.
Nov 22, 2015 6:55 PM
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Leave CD

I agree with kobun sensei. Growing thicker skin is also an option.
Nov 22, 2015 6:55 PM
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ignore it. theyre all f*cking gross




goodnight

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mayukachan said:
Ignore it, because they're alt accounts who have the intention of preaching shitty messages and intoxicating the community. Report their threads and wait until mods come.


Mods do not seem to care much about any of the threads...

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1453912
Nov 22, 2015 6:55 PM
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By the way,I think OP might be referring male toxicity in general.
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read Walt Whitman poems? kek
I CELEBRATE myself,
And what I assume you shall assume,
For every atom belonging to me as good belongs to you.
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Men are better than women so it's justified.
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That's a myth unless we're talking about roid rage but steroid abuse causes that.


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It has nothing to do with masculinity. Masculinity and femininity are hardly noticeable things all that much outside of social constructs and physical differences in sexes. Its just people generalizing out of bad experience and not knowing how to deal with it beyond venting their frustrations and some are just intentionally trying to get a reaction rather than fully believe what they say.
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traed said:
It has nothing to do with masculinity. Masculinity and femininity are hardly noticeable things all that much outside of social constructs and physical differences in sexes. Its just people generalizing out of bad experience and not knowing how to deal with it beyond venting their frustrations and some are just intentionally trying to get a reaction rather than fully believe what they say.
If it's only towards women and from men then it's masculinity.
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Can we all just get along? Is that so much to fucking ask?!
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I love Christine

"If one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life which he has imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in common hours. He will put some things behind, will pass an invisible boundary; In proportion as he simplifies his life, the laws of the universe will appear less complex, and solitude will not be solitude, nor poverty poverty, nor weakness weakness." - Henry David Thoreau


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ThrashMatto said:
Can we all just get along? Is that much to fucking ask?!


Looking back at history,you'd sooner win the jackpot in lottery five times in a row.
Nov 22, 2015 7:11 PM

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ThrashMatto said:
Can we all just get along? Is that much to fucking ask?!

Not when the feminists are invading our meninist safe haven
Nov 22, 2015 7:11 PM

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Wish them misfortune and go your way. I usually wouldn't reply to such posts, but I'm not a very nice mood today. But please ignore them, they are misguided gay people who dislike women, their biggest supporters and worship men, their biggest enemy. I pity them dearly, as a gay person myself.
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kobun said:
ThrashMatto said:
Can we all just get along? Is that much to fucking ask?!

Not when the feminists are invading our meninist safe haven


Yeah,it is totally your fault,feminist.
Make it ten.
Nov 22, 2015 7:13 PM

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Stop bieng a bitch. You're only proving them right by complaining anyway
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mochabearkawaii said:
Stop bieng a bitch. You're only proving them right by complaining anyway
I do wish your account has been hacked. This makes me utterly sad.
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yaoi_renee said:
mochabearkawaii said:
Stop bieng a bitch. You're only proving them right by complaining anyway
I do wish your account has been hacked. This makes me utterly sad.


He's not wrong
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ThrashMatto said:
kobun said:

Not when the feminists are invading our meninist safe haven
Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you people?


Because honestly,many of people here enjoy the internet conflict and drama a lot.
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ThrashMatto said:
Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you people?


Because honestly,many of people here enjoy the internet conflict and drama a lot.
Has everyone started smoking crack all of the sudden?
I love Christine

"If one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life which he has imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in common hours. He will put some things behind, will pass an invisible boundary; In proportion as he simplifies his life, the laws of the universe will appear less complex, and solitude will not be solitude, nor poverty poverty, nor weakness weakness." - Henry David Thoreau


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cause said:
yaoi_renee said:
I do wish your account has been hacked. This makes me utterly sad.
He's not wrong
What makes me sad isn't that he's saying, that's the last thing on my mind. It's actually the fact that I thought that person was friend-worthy at one point.
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yaoi_renee said:
mochabearkawaii said:
Stop bieng a bitch. You're only proving them right by complaining anyway
I do wish your account has been hacked. This makes me utterly sad.
Me (and I'm sure others as well) are joking most of the time. I don't think females should take offense because a couple of guys on mal have come into contact with a few horrible woman and generalize the whole gender. But they're not saints just like guys aren't butlwoman love to act like they are(just because they're a woman). I'm even generalizing now but it goes both ways :/
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This gif somehow seems appropriate for this thread.

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Claire said:
My question is this: What can be done in response to such examples of toxic masculinity?


Yes, actually address the argument rather than posting a regressive thread and complain about it. There's something called reasoning - If you haven't figured that out yet.
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Men be like...
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DejWo said:
Men be like...


The answer is?
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mochabearkawaii said:
yaoi_renee said:
I do wish your account has been hacked. This makes me utterly sad.
Me (and I'm sure others as well) are joking most of the time. I don't think females should take offense because a couple of guys on mal have come into contact with a few horrible woman and generalize the whole gender. But they're not saints just like guys aren't butlwoman love to act like they are(just because they're a woman). I'm even generalizing now but it goes both ways :/
I don't think anybody is taking offense to be honest, but the fact that you decided to reply on this one thread that antagonizes males, instead of the 200 that antagonize women, AND cursing at them makes me unable to believe that these are merely jokes. You could've at least said the same thing in the other female hatred threads.
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traed said:
It has nothing to do with masculinity. Masculinity and femininity are hardly noticeable things all that much outside of social constructs and physical differences in sexes. Its just people generalizing out of bad experience and not knowing how to deal with it beyond venting their frustrations and some are just intentionally trying to get a reaction rather than fully believe what they say.
If it's only towards women and from men then it's masculinity.
Uhmm not really because its not limited by that. There are females who do the same thing toward males. There are gays and bisexual males who do it over other males. There are lesbians and bisexual females who do it over other females. There are some bisexual males and females who do it to both. Just using MAL as a basis is pretty poor and limited.
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Just using MAL as a basis is pretty poor and limited.
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DejWo said:
kobun said:

Not when the feminists are invading our meninist safe haven


Yeah,it is totally your fault,feminist.
Make it ten.

u know wat feck u bc I made that counter to stop that shit but ppl have been bullying meh & saying it even more.
feck u I'll chop off ur dicks
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DejWo said:
Men be like...

Tru
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kobun said:
DejWo said:


Yeah,it is totally your fault,feminist.
Make it ten.

u know wat feck u bc I made that counter to stop that shit but ppl have been bullying meh & saying it even more.
feck u I'll chop off ur dicks


do it

you

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I say try your best to ignore them. I don't think any other consequences besides being mostly disagreed with or perhaps being reported to a moderator are necessary. That said, I don't like the phrase "toxic masculinity" because it implies that masculinity, something that is very subjective, is the problem. Truthfully, it's either a bunch of simple minded morons trying to get validation or trolls. Either way, don't give them that validation.
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Uhmm not really because its not limited by that. There are females who do the same thing toward males. There are gays and bisexual males who do it over other males. There are lesbians and bisexual females who do it over other females. There are some bisexual males and females who do it to both. Just using MAL as a basis is pretty poor and limited.
Sorry, I was being sarcastic and laying bait. I don't actually believe in what I said.
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yaoi_renee said:
mochabearkawaii said:
Me (and I'm sure others as well) are joking most of the time. I don't think females should take offense because a couple of guys on mal have come into contact with a few horrible woman and generalize the whole gender. But they're not saints just like guys aren't butlwoman love to act like they are(just because they're a woman). I'm even generalizing now but it goes both ways :/
I don't think anybody is taking offense to be honest, but the fact that you decided to reply on this one thread that antagonizes males, instead of the 200 that antagonize women, AND cursing at them makes me unable to believe that these are merely jokes. You could've at least said the same thing in the other female hatred threads.

I've called males out plenty of times on here before, I'll be sure to keep doing so whenever it needs to be done. I guess cursing (and using the word bitch) didn't help. When the next female hate thread comes I'll be there front and center #protectwomanatallcosts
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the best thing is to just ignore them. the threads themseleves are mostly just bait, and devoid of any effort to encourage debate/discussion. The people who identify with these types of views are almost always a part of the problem.

Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear
The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair
Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places
But we're trash, you and me
We're the litter on the breeze
We're the lovers on the streets
Just trash, me and you
It's in everything we do
It's in everything we do



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mochabearkawaii said:
#protectwomanatallcosts
Nov 22, 2015 7:42 PM

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kobun said:
Leave CD
Nov 22, 2015 7:42 PM
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yeah fuck women

literally

˙͜ >˙
Nov 22, 2015 7:43 PM

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mochabearkawaii said:
yaoi_renee said:
I don't think anybody is taking offense to be honest, but the fact that you decided to reply on this one thread that antagonizes males, instead of the 200 that antagonize women, AND cursing at them makes me unable to believe that these are merely jokes. You could've at least said the same thing in the other female hatred threads.

I've called males out plenty of times on here before, I'll be sure to keep doing so whenever it needs to be done. I guess cursing (and using the word bitch) didn't help. When the next female hate thread comes I'll be there front and center #protectwomanatallcosts
Well, I'm glad you understand.
Nov 22, 2015 7:54 PM

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Its usually best to respond calmly and correctively while understanding where someone is coming from with what they say. If you understand the motive and cause you understand the method to dismantle it.
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Confront and discuss.

Stupid opinions shouldn't be censored or avoided. They should be confronted so we will understand why they're so stupid. This way, we can make something productive out of it.
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Nov 23, 2015 1:03 AM

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How about we get rid of the blatant toxic behavior from everyone posting right now?

It's clear almost no one on this forum is posting with a sensible mindset.
Nov 23, 2015 1:13 AM

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It was only a few gender threads at first, but now it's like CD just got fucking taken over. The flood gates opened and now w'ere at each others throats over some BS.

How about we all stop putting so much importance on what we have between our legs?

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself."
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Nov 23, 2015 1:15 AM

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Just undress, that works most of the time.
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