2weeaboo4u said: TheBrainintheJar said: What's the point of a trap character that looks and sound like a girl? There doesn't need to be a point. People like them. That's it. Please stop referring to my list to discredit my point. No. The fact that you've completed 15 anime makes it ridiculous for you to make claims about "most anime." Ah, here you are, picking fights again. Does it please you to anger people or are you just bored? |
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Valenthius said: 2weeaboo4u said: There doesn't need to be a point. People like them. That's it. No. The fact that you've completed 15 anime makes it ridiculous for you to make claims about "most anime." Ah, here you are, picking fights again. Does it please you to anger people or are you just bored? That's 2weeaboo4u for you alright :D |
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| It's like that sister complex bullshit that anime always has. I don't get the appeal. If you want a male character, draw a male character. If you want a female character draw a damn female character. If you want a male character that looks like a female character, or vice-versa, then draw a male that looks like one, don't just straight out draw a female character labeled as a male. It would be more understandable if they had a sex change, but nope. They're all 14 and were apparently born that way. |
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2weeaboo4u said: Because muh intellectual wish fulfillment!Acheroh said: It's like that sister complex bullshit that anime always has. I don't get the appeal. If you want a male character, draw a male character. If you want a female character draw a damn female character. If you want a male character that looks like a female character, or vice-versa, then draw a male that looks like one, don't just straight out draw a female character labeled as a male. It would be more understandable if they had a sex change, but nope. They're all 14 and were apparently born that way. Why does everything have to be realistic? |
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2weeaboo4u said: Why does everything have to be realistic? Dude, it really doesn't have to be realistic. I like anime that strays from the general stuff with creativity. In my opinion, the anime that stray from the realistic, real-life stuff tend to be the best. The thing is, about traps, is that they AREN'T supposed to stray from reality. The anime they are almost always placed in always have normal settings (not too much out of the ordinary from real life) and in a normal life. The only strange thing is that random girl sitting there who, for some stupid reason, has been labelled as a guy. it's also not uncommon to see this "guy" dressed up in female clothes. The character is literally female but is labelled as a female for no explicable reason. I don't mind them being there, but if there only role there is to act as a female, look like a female and (more or less) be a female, then why label them as guy and make them reject the idea of being a girl for no reason? It's a useless characteristic. |
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2weeaboo4u said: Acheroh said: The thing is, about traps, is that they AREN'T supposed to stray from reality. There is no such rule, or any other rule governing the appropriate use of gender in anime. No reason or justification is needed for trap characters. Did you even read the sentence that came after that? "The thing is, about traps, is that they AREN'T supposed to stray from reality. The anime they are almost always placed in always have normal settings (not too much out of the ordinary from real life) and in a normal life." They're presented as normal and nothing extraordinary in many of the anime that they are in, hence why they 'aren't supposed to stray from reality.' |
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fNeL said: isn't kampfer and ore twintails is gender bender? not traps?All guys behind the scene... Those are traps. It's not bad. I still watched it. Kamfer Ore Twintails ni Narimasu |
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JustArsan said: I don't really care. It can be an interesting character trait as long as the show doesn't get too carried away with the gimmick. This trap have boobs or is my imagination?. |
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Illyricus said: JustArsan said: [/spoiler]I don't really care. It can be an interesting character trait as long as the show doesn't get too carried away with the gimmick. [spoiler] This trap have boobs or is my imagination?. She.. he.. whatever doesn't. Btw. the pic is from Maria Holic |
JustArsan said: Illyricus said: [/spoiler] This trap have boobs or is my imagination?. She.. he.. whatever doesn't. Btw. the pic is from Maria Holic Uff... that makes more sense. Glad that I was wrong. |
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| It's kinda redundant if it's not in a hentai. As for why I like it I don't know where to start understanding that. |
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Valenthius said: 2weeaboo4u said: There doesn't need to be a point. People like them. That's it. No. The fact that you've completed 15 anime makes it ridiculous for you to make claims about "most anime." Ah, here you are, picking fights again. Does it please you to anger people or are you just bored? He's not making me angry. He's amusing me. It's like he's trying on purpose not to be logical. But illogical people are all around us and I must learn to try to communicate. Why does it need to have a point? Art is artificial. Something is only included because the creators thought they had a good reason to. As a critical viewer, I'm trying to find those reasons and think whether they're legitimate or not. How can art not have purpose? |
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KaiserNazrin said: Its a terrible creation of Satan. |
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| no appeal what so ever! Its a trope called fan disservice/ |
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2weeaboo4u said: TheBrainintheJar said: He's not making me angry. He's amusing me. It's like he's trying on purpose not to be logical. But illogical people are all around us and I must learn to try to communicate. I said nothing illogical. Why does it need to have a point? Art is artificial. Something is only included because the creators thought they had a good reason to. As a critical viewer, I'm trying to find those reasons and think whether they're legitimate or not. You are just pretentious. A trap character can be included for no reason other than the author liking trap characters. That's a purpose, but is it a good one? Including a trap character because the author likes it doesn't mean it contributes to the story. |
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neolucaman said: there's a lot male character voice by female so? So?Its not about the voice its about the animation,its like saying oh Naruto is a girl now.Lol |
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2weeaboo4u said: You are just pretentious. A trap character can be included for no reason other than the author liking trap characters. Right, and by that logic, I should be able to dislike and/or like any other character(s) without needing a good/viable reason. If that's the case then why are you getting so angry? 2weeaboo4u said: Acheroh said: Did you even read the sentence that came after that? Yes, and it changes nothing. You're just making up some arbitrary rules because you don't like traps. No. I'm not making up rules. That's simply my opinion. You sound like you're getting offended because of the fact that I dislike them. I'm not trying to convince anyone to dislike them, I'm just stating why I dislike them. There's as little need for me to like them as there is for artists to have reason to put them in their work. Traps that play no role in the story except for simply being there (as traps) are useless. I dislike them as much as any other character that doesn't need to be in an anime (like Tenten), however traps receive less or close to no sympathy in my case. Those that are there for comedic value are, and hence wise contribute to it, are fine. But Kirito in SAO II, for example, was a trap for what reason? |
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TheBrainintheJar said: Red_Tuesday said: This is the problem. Because what's the point if you can always accurately guess that a character who's portrayed as a guy/girl initially is the opposite? No trap in anime has ever fooled me, when it does (if ever) I'll accept their existence conceptually. Some are acceptable because their gender becomes a source of comedy/ plot for the other characters, such as Yukimura (Haganai) or that boy from OreGairu. Baka to Test actually did the thing right. The trap character looks androgynous. He's either masculine female or a feminine male. Baka to Test gets a lot of things right most anime don't. I don't agree, Hideyoshi looks like a boy, you're probably conflating androgyny with the fact his gender was never explicitly stated to be boy or girl. Hideyoshi might be the closest to being androgynous of all the traps I've seen, but it's not 50/50 to me. |
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2weeaboo4u said: Sure, if you want to be seen as a moron. I'm sorry for having a differing opinion, O' mighty 2weeaboo4u. .-. Why are you projecting? You're the one who started complaining about traps. You seem quite discontent on people having different opinions though. Honestly, I would generally like to know as to why you feel that the artist doesn't need a reason to include one, or like one, but need good and viable point in order to not be 'seen as a moron'. 2weeaboo4u said: Right here: Acheroh said: The thing is, about traps, is that they AREN'T supposed to stray from reality. The way you perceived this line is certainly not out of the blue, although that is not what I meant. I did recently reply that this line is in conjunction with the line came right after that stated that traps are not supposed to be stray from reality IN some of the anime that they are in. However, if you choose to ignore it then go ahead. They are no more useless or useful than any other kind of character. Depending on the context of which they are in, they, or any other kind of character, than another. |
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2weeaboo4u said: Says the person complaining about traps. To which my reply is: acheroh said: I dislike them as much as any other character that doesn't need to be in an anime (like Tenten), however traps receive less or close to no sympathy in my case. Those that are there for comedic value are, and hence wise contribute to it, are fine. [Comedic value and such other things] You are making up rules and that's a fact. There's no reason why traps "are not supposed to stray from reality." That's just something you made up. Okay, sure. Considering that most anime are of the fiction genre, I see where this is coming from. English please. Depending on the context of which they are in, they or any other kind of character, can be less useful than another. That's what I meant to say. My bad. acheroh said: Honestly, I would generally like to know as to why you feel that the artist doesn't need a reason to include one, or like one, but I need a good and viable point in order to not be 'seen as a moron'. There was meant to be an 'I' in there (now placed in red)... again, my bad. 2weeaboo4u said: Does the artist have to provide an explanation for all of these things? My reply to your comment would basically be the same as the comment you replied to. As you said, artists don't need an explanation for it. But, why would I need an explanation for not liking them then? And, why would I be viewed as moronic (by you) if I didn't have one? |
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2weeaboo4u said: But you are complaining, which is the point. Okay, but you're still making it sound as if there's something wrong with me not liking them. This applies to all characters, so why are you not complaining about all characters? Why are you singling out traps? My reply: acheroh said: I dislike them as much as any other character that doesn't need to be in an anime (like Tenten), however traps receive less or close to no sympathy in my case. Those that are there for comedic value are, and hence wise contribute to it, are fine. I did. And, because this thread is about traps, whom I dislike. Not about all other characters in the spectrum. I'll complain about them some more another time. Again: why would the artist need a reason? Does there also have to be a reason why a character is female instead male or blonde instead of brunette, or why a car is a Porchse instead of a Ferrari, or why a gun is a Beretta instead of a Glock? Does the artist have to provide an explanation for all of these things? We can just keep going in circles on this one. Because "this show shouldn't have traps in it because I don't like traps, and I don't like traps because I don't like them" is a moronic thing to say. Again: Acheroh said: I dislike them as much as any other character that doesn't need to be in an anime (like Tenten), however traps receive less or close to no sympathy in my case. Those that are there for comedic value are, and hence wise contribute to it, are fine. I don't mind traps being in shows as long as they are there for a reason. I dislike useless characters and/or those who's defining characteristic seem useless. Unfortunately, in my opinion, quite a few traps classify as one the latter. |
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Red_Keys said: So that guys with homosexual fantasies can reassure themselves with "it doesn't count". |
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