In Japan, IS THIS REALLY HOW THEY WEAR IN PE UNIFORM LOWER PANTS IS?!

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It depends on the school...

Here's an example of American volley ball uniform...

You picked an especially sexualized picture though...

Oct 14, 2015 9:21 AM

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Not all, but some.

Oct 14, 2015 9:24 AM

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Risara said:
Not all, but some.

I really don't want to come off as one of those annoying white knight guy....but Japan is pretty behind in terms of womens rights. Anime always makes everything seem all cheerful, not really the case in real life Japan.

Oct 14, 2015 9:25 AM

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That's bloomers not pants lol.

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Oct 14, 2015 9:29 AM

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That's nice.

Oct 14, 2015 9:31 AM

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well sorry but they don't exist as official pe uniform if you actually wodering

the most similar thing ever existed were pe uniform you can see anime such as azumanga daioh but those were abolished about 15-20years ago so you can only see in anime or cosplay photo nowadays

ps
#3's photo is very similar to Japanese pe uniform 1990s look like, and still pretty popular fetish

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Oct 14, 2015 9:45 AM

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Rothion said:
That's bloomers not pants lol.

Oct 14, 2015 9:52 AM

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Fintan said:

Risara said:
Not all, but some.

I really don't want to come off as one of those annoying white knight guy....but Japan is pretty behind in terms of womens rights. Anime always makes everything seem all cheerful, not really the case in real life Japan.

look at stuff like games studios

there is no major studio in the us that is headed by females or are any teams headed by female while in Japan koei one of the biggest studio in japan was founded by and is still par;t ran on day ot day basis by a woman

the ceator of pshtasy star female
Dragon slayer also feamle ceator

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Oct 14, 2015 9:54 AM

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Only on mal is there a thread like this...

I've been here way too long...

Oct 14, 2015 10:17 AM

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DateYutaka said:

Fintan said:

I really don't want to come off as one of those annoying white knight guy....but Japan is pretty behind in terms of womens rights. Anime always makes everything seem all cheerful, not really the case in real life Japan.

look at stuff like games studios

there is no major studio in the us that is headed by females or are any teams headed by female while in Japan koei one of the biggest studio in japan was founded by and is still par;t ran on day ot day basis by a woman

the ceator of pshtasy star female
Dragon slayer also feamle ceator

I'm not talking about video games or anime...

Oct 14, 2015 10:34 AM

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So i search the image on Google, this is what showed up "Cute Japanese School Girl Sportwear Bloomers Cosplay"

if you want to buy some here is the link http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cute-Japanese-School-Girl-Sportwear-Bloomers-Cosplay-Uniform-Gym-Suits-2-Colors-/161405896030

For your question some do wear it and some do not.

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Oct 14, 2015 10:37 AM

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I though Japan stopped using bloomers years ago, in favor of regular sport shorts. Are a few schools still using them?

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Oct 14, 2015 10:43 AM

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I though Japan stopped using bloomers years ago, in favor of regular sport shorts. Are a few schools still using them?

It's usually track suit type uniforms. Like how I posted the volleyball uniforms, there's certain sports/activities at schools that have uniforms that are very similar to the old bloomer/t-shirt look.

I believe they did replace the typical bloomer/t-shirt and school bathing suit due to it become such a wide spread fetish. Which is pretty bad honestly.... So many creeps got turned on by the kids uniforms that had to ban them....

I saw this one story of a guy who stole like 600+ school girl uniforms, all different types. He got arrested, you can find pics of all the uniforms/gym outfits/bathing suits he stole all spread out on a gymnasium floor. It's crazy how many he managed to steal...

Oct 14, 2015 10:44 AM

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Fintan said:

DateYutaka said:

look at stuff like games studios

there is no major studio in the us that is headed by females or are any teams headed by female while in Japan koei one of the biggest studio in japan was founded by and is still par;t ran on day ot day basis by a woman

the ceator of pshtasy star female
Dragon slayer also feamle ceator

I'm not talking about video games or anime...

most Japanese big compainea are family run there are more Ceo in Japan who are women Japan has better reproductive rights to there is not pro life cvs pro life debate in japan per say

there is a smaller pay gap too if non at all [ workers party adiamartion in the late 9's sougth that out]

"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong

Oct 14, 2015 10:56 AM

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DateYutaka said:

Fintan said:

I'm not talking about video games or anime...

most Japanese big compainea are family run there are more Ceo in Japan who are women Japan has better reproductive rights to there is not pro life cvs pro life debate in japan per say

there is a smaller pay gap too if non at all [ workers party adiamartion in the late 9's sougth that out]

No... No.

Men rule the Japanese workforce and women make about 40% less then men. Plus there's just the societal norms that the majority of women are taught from young ages to follow.

So while there's not a lot of complaining, women certainly aren't seen as equals to men in most regards.

http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21599763-womens-lowly-status-japanese-workplace-has-barely-improved-decades-and-country

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Fintan said:

DateYutaka said:

most Japanese big compainea are family run there are more Ceo in Japan who are women Japan has better reproductive rights to there is not pro life cvs pro life debate in japan per say

there is a smaller pay gap too if non at all [ workers party adiamartion in the late 9's sougth that out]

No... No.

Men rule the Japanese workforce and women make about 40% less then men. Plus there's just the societal norms that the majority of women are taught from young ages to follow.

So while there's not a lot of complaining, women certainly aren't seen as equals to men in most regards.

http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21599763-womens-lowly-status-japanese-workplace-has-barely-improved-decades-and-country

im japanese and workers party member

and

i seid there is less of a pay gap based on gender in Japan that is a fact

abe nomics has hurt japan hes tryng to good thing

DateYutakaOct 14, 2015 11:04 AM

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Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong

Oct 14, 2015 11:03 AM

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Fintan said:

DateYutaka said:

most Japanese big compainea are family run there are more Ceo in Japan who are women Japan has better reproductive rights to there is not pro life cvs pro life debate in japan per say

there is a smaller pay gap too if non at all [ workers party adiamartion in the late 9's sougth that out]

No... No.

Men rule the Japanese workforce and women make about 40% less then men. Plus there's just the societal norms that the majority of women are taught from young ages to follow.

So while there's not a lot of complaining, women certainly aren't seen as equals to men in most regards.

how long have you lived in Japan?
the reasons a lot of women (or men too)don't want to work is mainly working condition is terrible
if men or women work full-time job at same company the pay are same

Oct 14, 2015 11:05 AM

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That's cosplay, my god she's a hottie though.

Oct 14, 2015 11:06 AM

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umashikaneko said:

Fintan said:

No... No.

Men rule the Japanese workforce and women make about 40% less then men. Plus there's just the societal norms that the majority of women are taught from young ages to follow.

So while there's not a lot of complaining, women certainly aren't seen as equals to men in most regards.

how long have you lived in Japan?
the reasons a lot of women (or men too)don't want to work is mainly working condition is terrible
if men or women work full-time job at same company the pay are same

neko you talking to me or fintan

"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong

Oct 14, 2015 11:07 AM

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Yes, OP you're right!

Read Toriko!!!! Read Toriko!!!! Read Toriko!!!! Read Toriko!!!! Read Toriko!!!! Read Toriko!!!!

Oct 14, 2015 11:10 AM

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Ofc. Everything you see in anime is an accurate representation of the world.

Next.

Oct 14, 2015 11:24 AM

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umashikaneko said:

Fintan said:

No... No.

Men rule the Japanese workforce and women make about 40% less then men. Plus there's just the societal norms that the majority of women are taught from young ages to follow.

So while there's not a lot of complaining, women certainly aren't seen as equals to men in most regards.

how long have you lived in Japan?
the reasons a lot of women (or men too)don't want to work is mainly working condition is terrible
if men or women work full-time job at same company the pay are same

I'm not sure if you're asking me or Date that.

Women are basically molded into housewives. Also based on a lot of what I've seen and read, that's not entirely true that women would make the same amount. That's also if they even get to the position in the first place. Most women end up staying home and taking care of the kids, it's like 1950s America.

Plus i'm not just talking about work, it's how women are taught to act and behave. Japan very much insists on their people fitting a certain mold. I like Japan, the culture is fascinating and it's a beautiful place. It's not perfect though.

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Oct 14, 2015 11:35 AM

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TheConquerer said:
Only on mal is there a thread like this...

This is actually a pretty common question

Oct 14, 2015 11:41 AM

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Fintan said:

umashikaneko said:

how long have you lived in Japan?
the reasons a lot of women (or men too)don't want to work is mainly working condition is terrible
if men or women work full-time job at same company the pay are same

I'm not sure if you're asking me or Date that.

Women are basically molded into housewives. Also based on a lot of what I've seen and read, that's not entirely true that women would make the same amount. That's also if they even get to the position in the first place. Most women end up staying home and taking care of the kids, it's like 1950s America.

Plus i'm not just talking about work, it's how women are taught to act and behave. Japan very much insists on their people fitting a certain mold. I like Japan, the culture is fascinating and it's a beautiful place. It's not perfect though.

i mean how long have you lived because 90％ or more of English articles about Japan are completely misunderstanding or misleading so it is very important how long have you lived because if you lived 2 or3 years you can largely distinguish truth to exaggerated fact to complete bullshit to internationally misleading articles

i think wharyou are saying only apply to pre1980 Japan.

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umashikaneko said:

Fintan said:

I'm not sure if you're asking me or Date that.

Women are basically molded into housewives. Also based on a lot of what I've seen and read, that's not entirely true that women would make the same amount. That's also if they even get to the position in the first place. Most women end up staying home and taking care of the kids, it's like 1950s America.

Plus i'm not just talking about work, it's how women are taught to act and behave. Japan very much insists on their people fitting a certain mold. I like Japan, the culture is fascinating and it's a beautiful place. It's not perfect though.

i mean how long haw you lived because 90％ or more of English articles about Japan are completely misunderstanding or misleading so it is very important how long have you lived because if you lived 2 or3 years you can largely distinguish truth to exaggerated fact to complete bullshit to internationally misleading articles

i think wharyou are saying only apply to pre1980 Japan.

.... Yeah ok. So I have to live in Japan to have any opinion on it....

Oct 14, 2015 11:53 AM

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Fintan said:

umashikaneko said:

Fintan said:

umashikaneko said:

Fintan said:

DateYutaka said:

Fintan said:

DateYutaka said:

Fintan said:

Risara said:
Not all, but some.

I really don't want to come off as one of those annoying white knight guy....but Japan is pretty behind in terms of womens rights. Anime always makes everything seem all cheerful, not really the case in real life Japan.

look at stuff like games studios

there is no major studio in the us that is headed by females or are any teams headed by female while in Japan koei one of the biggest studio in japan was founded by and is still par;t ran on day ot day basis by a woman

the ceator of pshtasy star female
Dragon slayer also feamle ceator

I'm not talking about video games or anime...

most Japanese big compainea are family run there are more Ceo in Japan who are women Japan has better reproductive rights to there is not pro life cvs pro life debate in japan per say

there is a smaller pay gap too if non at all [ workers party adiamartion in the late 9's sougth that out]

No... No.

Men rule the Japanese workforce and women make about 40% less then men. Plus there's just the societal norms that the majority of women are taught from young ages to follow.

So while there's not a lot of complaining, women certainly aren't seen as equals to men in most regards.

how long have you lived in Japan?
the reasons a lot of women (or men too)don't want to work is mainly working condition is terrible
if men or women work full-time job at same company the pay are same

I'm not sure if you're asking me or Date that.

Women are basically molded into housewives. Also based on a lot of what I've seen and read, that's not entirely true that women would make the same amount. That's also if they even get to the position in the first place. Most women end up staying home and taking care of the kids, it's like 1950s America.

Plus i'm not just talking about work, it's how women are taught to act and behave. Japan very much insists on their people fitting a certain mold. I like Japan, the culture is fascinating and it's a beautiful place. It's not perfect though.

i mean how long haw you lived because 90％ or more of English articles about Japan are completely misunderstanding or misleading so it is very important how long have you lived because if you lived 2 or3 years you can largely distinguish truth to exaggerated fact to complete bullshit to internationally misleading articles

i think wharyou are saying only apply to pre1980 Japan.

.... Yeah ok. So I have to live in Japan to have any opinion on it.

what you are talking is not your oppinion but condensed prejudice what a lot of people like to believe

i know because i read English articles and
English articles only deal with subjects that agree to prejudice

Oct 14, 2015 11:56 AM

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umashikaneko said:

Fintan said:

umashikaneko said:

Fintan said:

umashikaneko said:

Fintan said:

DateYutaka said:

Fintan said:

DateYutaka said:

Fintan said:

Risara said:
Not all, but some.

I really don't want to come off as one of those annoying white knight guy....but Japan is pretty behind in terms of womens rights. Anime always makes everything seem all cheerful, not really the case in real life Japan.

look at stuff like games studios

there is no major studio in the us that is headed by females or are any teams headed by female while in Japan koei one of the biggest studio in japan was founded by and is still par;t ran on day ot day basis by a woman

the ceator of pshtasy star female
Dragon slayer also feamle ceator

I'm not talking about video games or anime...

most Japanese big compainea are family run there are more Ceo in Japan who are women Japan has better reproductive rights to there is not pro life cvs pro life debate in japan per say

there is a smaller pay gap too if non at all [ workers party adiamartion in the late 9's sougth that out]

No... No.

Men rule the Japanese workforce and women make about 40% less then men. Plus there's just the societal norms that the majority of women are taught from young ages to follow.

So while there's not a lot of complaining, women certainly aren't seen as equals to men in most regards.

how long have you lived in Japan?
the reasons a lot of women (or men too)don't want to work is mainly working condition is terrible
if men or women work full-time job at same company the pay are same

I'm not sure if you're asking me or Date that.

Women are basically molded into housewives. Also based on a lot of what I've seen and read, that's not entirely true that women would make the same amount. That's also if they even get to the position in the first place. Most women end up staying home and taking care of the kids, it's like 1950s America.

Plus i'm not just talking about work, it's how women are taught to act and behave. Japan very much insists on their people fitting a certain mold. I like Japan, the culture is fascinating and it's a beautiful place. It's not perfect though.

i mean how long haw you lived because 90％ or more of English articles about Japan are completely misunderstanding or misleading so it is very important how long have you lived because if you lived 2 or3 years you can largely distinguish truth to exaggerated fact to complete bullshit to internationally misleading articles

i think wharyou are saying only apply to pre1980 Japan.

.... Yeah ok. So I have to live in Japan to have any opinion on it.

what you are talking is not your oppinion but condensed prejudice what a lot of people like to believe

i know because i read English articles and
English articles only deal with subjects that agree to prejudice

You're lucky you're on a site full of people so in love with Japan they'll actually believe that garbage.

Prejudice LOL. So it's prejudice to bring light to how women in Japan live their lives xD

Oct 14, 2015 11:59 AM

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Fintan said:

Risara said:
Not all, but some.

I really don't want to come off as one of those annoying white knight guy....but Japan is pretty behind in terms of womens rights. Anime always makes everything seem all cheerful, not really the case in real life Japan.

You canadian leftist tumblrite!

Oct 14, 2015 12:09 PM

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Fintan said:

You're lucky you're on a site full of people so in love with Japan they'll actually believe that garbage.

Prejudice LOL. So it's prejudice to bring light to how women in Japan live their lives xD

what exactly hard to believe? 90％ of English articles about Japan are misunderstanding or misleading?

Oct 14, 2015 12:26 PM

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Her face is really scary.......

Oct 14, 2015 12:28 PM

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JonasTheJay said:

TheConquerer said:
Only on mal is there a thread like this...

This is actually a pretty common question

yeah, the old lady at the busstop asks me 'IS THIS REALLY HOW SHORT PE UNIFORM LOWER PANTS IS?!' every morning

Oct 14, 2015 12:29 PM

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Clebardman said:

Fintan said:

I really don't want to come off as one of those annoying white knight guy....but Japan is pretty behind in terms of womens rights. Anime always makes everything seem all cheerful, not really the case in real life Japan.

You canadian leftist tumblrite!

That hurts man..... I'd never associate myself with a Canadian!

umashikaneko said:

Fintan said:

You're lucky you're on a site full of people so in love with Japan they'll actually believe that garbage.

Prejudice LOL. So it's prejudice to bring light to how women in Japan live their lives xD

what exactly hard to believe? 90％ of English articles about Japan are misunderstanding or misleading?

You.. You're hard to believe.

Oct 14, 2015 12:31 PM

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Fintan said:

Clebardman said:

You canadian leftist tumblrite!

That hurts man..... I'd never associate myself with a Canadian!

umashikaneko said:

what exactly hard to believe? 90％ of English articles about Japan are misunderstanding or misleading?

You.. You're hard to believe.

you no leftist either

"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

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There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong

Oct 14, 2015 12:33 PM

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Fintan said:
It depends on the school...

Here's an example of American volley ball uniform...

You picked an especially sexualized picture though...

American girls look sexy compared to Japanese

Oct 14, 2015 12:36 PM

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Fintan said:
It depends on the school...

Here's an example of American volley ball uniform...

You picked an especially sexualized picture though...

Man I fucking love volleyball girls. A true sport for the ass man.

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did anybody notice those gross teeth

Oct 14, 2015 12:38 PM

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did anybody notice those gross teeth

..... really?

Oct 14, 2015 12:48 PM

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Fintan said:

You.. You're hard to believe.

ok i'might have exaggerated and what you said have some truth in it.

lets discuss from the start,so we can agree

Oct 14, 2015 12:54 PM

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umashikaneko said:

Fintan said:

You.. You're hard to believe.

ok i'might have exaggerated and what you said have some truth in it.

lets discuss from the start,so we can agree

It's way off too off topic for this thread.

I didn't mean it to be personal. Nothing I was implying was some incredibly horrible problem. Nothing comparable to how women are treated in the middle eastern countries. It's just Japan is, as you know, very set in traditions. Traditionally women play a certain role, and that's how society teaches women to be.

There's aspects of this in American culture as well, I'd argue Japan is a little behind us.... Not by a whole lot though.

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DateYutaka said:

Fintan said:

I'm not talking about video games or anime...

most Japanese big compainea are family run there are more Ceo in Japan who are women Japan has better reproductive rights to there is not pro life cvs pro life debate in japan per say

there is a smaller pay gap too if non at all [ workers party adiamartion in the late 9's sougth that out]

Most modern countries don't have a big pro life vs pro choice debate. but that still hasn't got anything to do with women's rights in Japan which are pretty poor.

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Fintan said:

umashikaneko said:

ok i'might have exaggerated and what you said have some truth in it.

lets discuss from the start,so we can agree

It's way off too off topic for this thread.

I didn't mean it to be personal. Nothing I was implying was some incredibly horrible problem. Nothing comparable to how women are treated in the middle eastern countries. It's just Japan is, as you know, very set in traditions. Traditionally women play a certain role, and that's how society teaches women to be.

There's aspects of this in American culture as well, I'd argue Japan is a little behind us.... Not by a whole lot though.

that largely true maybe.i'm on phone at work so i will write my opinion about this matter later.

Oct 14, 2015 1:02 PM

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That picture is thoroughly disturbing, mostly because she's like 12.

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umashikaneko said:

Fintan said:

I'm not sure if you're asking me or Date that.

Women are basically molded into housewives. Also based on a lot of what I've seen and read, that's not entirely true that women would make the same amount. That's also if they even get to the position in the first place. Most women end up staying home and taking care of the kids, it's like 1950s America.

Plus i'm not just talking about work, it's how women are taught to act and behave. Japan very much insists on their people fitting a certain mold. I like Japan, the culture is fascinating and it's a beautiful place. It's not perfect though.

i mean how long have you lived because 90％ or more of English articles about Japan are completely misunderstanding or misleading so it is very important how long have you lived because if you lived 2 or3 years you can largely distinguish truth to exaggerated fact to complete bullshit to internationally misleading articles

i think wharyou are saying only apply to pre1980 Japan.

I'll bite, a close friend worked there for about a decade, post 2000 and fintan isn't wrong. Women are taught to be submissive, sexual assault and harassment isn't correctly acknowledged or dealt with, women don't have the same opportunities, they are expected to be "graceful" and to make good wives to their husbands.

Japan is a fascinating place and has a lot going for it, but it has more than its fair share of social problems.

@fintan
I know there are countries where women have it much, much worse. However these don't tend to be modern countries. Japan is supposed to be a modern country so in that sense, I don't think they should be compared to say, somewhere like Syria as that's no excuse.

I think it's slightly more important that their own social problems are recognised because it's something they can actually do something about.

@OP
It's difficult to tell because of the way the photo is framed. She's just a kid, why choose a photo like that anyway?

Generally speaking though, Japanese uniforms are quite reserved. skirts for example are longer than most European countries uniforms. PE uniforms slightly different though, they are supposed to be functional. Typically tracksuit bottoms and regular size sport shorts are what most countries would use by default. They aren't much different wherever you go.

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Fizix said:

umashikaneko said:

Fintan said:

umashikaneko said:

Fintan said:

DateYutaka said:

Fintan said:

DateYutaka said:

Fintan said:

Risara said:
Not all, but some.

I really don't want to come off as one of those annoying white knight guy....but Japan is pretty behind in terms of womens rights. Anime always makes everything seem all cheerful, not really the case in real life Japan.

look at stuff like games studios

there is no major studio in the us that is headed by females or are any teams headed by female while in Japan koei one of the biggest studio in japan was founded by and is still par;t ran on day ot day basis by a woman

the ceator of pshtasy star female
Dragon slayer also feamle ceator

I'm not talking about video games or anime...

most Japanese big compainea are family run there are more Ceo in Japan who are women Japan has better reproductive rights to there is not pro life cvs pro life debate in japan per say

there is a smaller pay gap too if non at all [ workers party adiamartion in the late 9's sougth that out]

No... No.

Men rule the Japanese workforce and women make about 40% less then men. Plus there's just the societal norms that the majority of women are taught from young ages to follow.

So while there's not a lot of complaining, women certainly aren't seen as equals to men in most regards.

how long have you lived in Japan?
the reasons a lot of women (or men too)don't want to work is mainly working condition is terrible
if men or women work full-time job at same company the pay are same

I'm not sure if you're asking me or Date that.

Women are basically molded into housewives. Also based on a lot of what I've seen and read, that's not entirely true that women would make the same amount. That's also if they even get to the position in the first place. Most women end up staying home and taking care of the kids, it's like 1950s America.

Plus i'm not just talking about work, it's how women are taught to act and behave. Japan very much insists on their people fitting a certain mold. I like Japan, the culture is fascinating and it's a beautiful place. It's not perfect though.

i mean how long have you lived because 90％ or more of English articles about Japan are completely misunderstanding or misleading so it is very important how long have you lived because if you lived 2 or3 years you can largely distinguish truth to exaggerated fact to complete bullshit to internationally misleading articles

i think wharyou are saying only apply to pre1980 Japan.

I'll bite, a close friend worked there for about a decade, post 2000 and fintan isn't wrong. Women are taught to be submissive, sexual assault and harassment isn't correctly acknowledged or dealt with, women don't have the same opportunities, they are expected to be "graceful" and to make good wives to their husbands.

Japan is a fascinating place and has a lot going for it, but it has more than its fair share of social problems.

women maybe submissive but men are equally submissive or oppressed

when men and women of same genaration talk
men more likely use honorific language

Oct 14, 2015 1:20 PM

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umashikaneko said:

Fizix said:

umashikaneko said:

Fintan said:

umashikaneko said:

Fintan said:

DateYutaka said:

Fintan said:

DateYutaka said:

Fintan said:

Risara said:
Not all, but some.

I really don't want to come off as one of those annoying white knight guy....but Japan is pretty behind in terms of womens rights. Anime always makes everything seem all cheerful, not really the case in real life Japan.

look at stuff like games studios

there is no major studio in the us that is headed by females or are any teams headed by female while in Japan koei one of the biggest studio in japan was founded by and is still par;t ran on day ot day basis by a woman

the ceator of pshtasy star female
Dragon slayer also feamle ceator

I'm not talking about video games or anime...

most Japanese big compainea are family run there are more Ceo in Japan who are women Japan has better reproductive rights to there is not pro life cvs pro life debate in japan per say

there is a smaller pay gap too if non at all [ workers party adiamartion in the late 9's sougth that out]

No... No.

Men rule the Japanese workforce and women make about 40% less then men. Plus there's just the societal norms that the majority of women are taught from young ages to follow.

So while there's not a lot of complaining, women certainly aren't seen as equals to men in most regards.

how long have you lived in Japan?
the reasons a lot of women (or men too)don't want to work is mainly working condition is terrible
if men or women work full-time job at same company the pay are same

I'm not sure if you're asking me or Date that.

Women are basically molded into housewives. Also based on a lot of what I've seen and read, that's not entirely true that women would make the same amount. That's also if they even get to the position in the first place. Most women end up staying home and taking care of the kids, it's like 1950s America.

Plus i'm not just talking about work, it's how women are taught to act and behave. Japan very much insists on their people fitting a certain mold. I like Japan, the culture is fascinating and it's a beautiful place. It's not perfect though.

i mean how long have you lived because 90％ or more of English articles about Japan are completely misunderstanding or misleading so it is very important how long have you lived because if you lived 2 or3 years you can largely distinguish truth to exaggerated fact to complete bullshit to internationally misleading articles

i think wharyou are saying only apply to pre1980 Japan.

I'll bite, a close friend worked there for about a decade, post 2000 and fintan isn't wrong. Women are taught to be submissive, sexual assault and harassment isn't correctly acknowledged or dealt with, women don't have the same opportunities, they are expected to be &quot;graceful&quot; and to make good wives to their husbands.

Japan is a fascinating place and has a lot going for it, but it has more than its fair share of social problems.

women maybe submissive but men are equally submissive or oppressed

when men and women of same genaration talk
men more likely use honorific language

I'm not really talking about language or even being reserved (which is the term I'd choose for the culture itself, submissive isn't quite right in this context).

The reason I say this is because women are expected to please men. To claim otherwise is simply untrue. Then you have the stuff about harassment and assault (take creeps on trains for example). Broadly speaking Japan is behind most modern countries.

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Oct 14, 2015 1:32 PM

#50