School-Live!
| I started watching the show at first then started the manga at about episode 6. I thought the show as great at first but it got worst as the remaining episodes came out. The show seems all over the place for me compared to the manga which delivers a smooth storyline. The manga is so much darker in terms of horror and psycological than the show and that gave us better character developements and I gotta say the shows finale was just crap. Sh!t went down in the manga and I'm kinda sad that it's at a stand still now, hopefully it gets going again soon. |
| Pretty much started going downhill for me after they left the mall. |
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| Nope. AN adaptation does not have to be a carbon copy of the original. In many aspects(presentation, visuals, psychological aspects, atmosphere, structure) anime is far superior to the source material. Just because it is different does not mean it is not faithful or automatically bad. |
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CookingPriest said: ironic coming from you as you cried week after week about how fate wasn't faithful to the VN.Nope. AN adaptation does not have to be a carbon copy of the original. In many aspects(presentation, visuals, psychological aspects, atmosphere, structure) anime is far superior to the source material. Just because it is different does not mean it is not faithful or automatically bad. |
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| i read around 10 chapter before watching anime but guess what? i like the anime more. The change is for greater good. so... RayAdha said: |
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| I gotta say that episode 11 was pretty much the best episode the show has put out so far. I was extremely excited for the final episode and they go and shit on the entire show by saying "Ok zombies go home" and then all their problems are solved. And what's with that stupid fucking over-dramatic graduation where everyone cries every 5 seconds? What was the point? It didn't wrap up anything. We don't know how the infection was created, we don't know what Megu-nee's involvement with it was, we don't know where the hell all the people/zombies are, and we don't know what the girls did. Did they go to a safe zone or did they just wander around aimlessly like idiots? They just completely ruined everything they had going for them in episode 11. Extremely disappointing. |
| For someone who is not reading the manga, it is a fine show. The company could sell the "moe" part and still not lacking too much of "gore" aspect. Well, it is designated for TV show. Proper alteration should be acceptable. |
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Sourire said: well, there's the different between changing scenes for better Characterization and changing scenes for character to look dumb.........CookingPriest said: ironic coming from you as you cried week after week about how fate wasn't faithful to the VN.Nope. AN adaptation does not have to be a carbon copy of the original. In many aspects(presentation, visuals, psychological aspects, atmosphere, structure) anime is far superior to the source material. Just because it is different does not mean it is not faithful or automatically bad. @OP Nope. |
greanseal said: For someone who is not reading the manga, it is a fine show. The company could sell the "moe" part and still not lacking too much of "gore" aspect. Well, it is designated for TV show. Proper alteration should be acceptable. There wasn't any gore at all though lol. No scary moments either. This anime being tagged as a Horror is somewhat misleading. Sure there are zombies walking around but that's about it. |
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| It was a little lackluster, but it wasn't awful. |
| If I didn't read the manga than yeah I'd say it was enjoyable (7/10). They grazed through too many parts for me to really like it. e.g - The parts where they look, find and think about Megu-nee's documents (this changed everything) - Miki's whole arc in the shopping mall, her desperation for survival - Miki questioning Yuki's sanity, Yuki revealing why she's that way - All the pressure Rii was facing, her breaking down and lashing out |
Avenger-senpai said: There wasn't any gore at all though lol. No scary moments either. This anime being tagged as a Horror is somewhat misleading. Sure there are zombies walking around but that's about it. You don't have to have gore in a show to make it horror (Gore wasn't the focus of this anime anyway). And "scary moments" will really depend on the person and how desensitized they are to this kind of thing. I mean if we think about it,(as unrealistic as it is) if a zombie apocalypse did occur and we see people whom may have once been friends/family/neighbors/work associates, start to have their flesh rotting off and then we see them kill others and start to cannibalize on them, that would be pretty horrifying and people can't deny that. In this show we all know what zombies are, and what they'll do if they manage to surround and catch the girls. That alone makes any scenes with them beyond their shelter tense and even scary. While it's easy to say, this show wasn't scary, while in the comfort of our homes, with no danger of death outside our windows. Let's try to think how people would feel if they where put in the shoes of these girls where not a whole lot is known about the zombies, and how even one bite or maybe even a scratch could prove fatal. Pretty sure for most the feeling would be fear and thus the horror tag. |
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| Just think of it as if it was an original series. |
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| Missing out on the full mall sequence was a disappointment, and especially so given that it could have been given justice with just the one extra episode, and the animation had QUALITY issues. But overall is was a very solid adaptation. Most complaints I've seen about this show from others are unjustified. |
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Incubusknight said: You don't have to have gore in a show to make it horror (Gore wasn't the focus of this anime anyway). And "scary moments" will really depend on the person and how desensitized they are to this kind of thing. Never did I say gore is needed for a show to be Horror. Incubusknight said: I mean if we think about it,(as unrealistic as it is) if a zombie apocalypse did occur and we see people whom may have once been friends/family/neighbors/work associates, start to have their flesh rotting off and then we see them kill others and start to cannibalize on them, that would be pretty horrifying and people can't deny that. In this show we all know what zombies are, and what they'll do if they manage to surround and catch the girls. That alone makes any scenes with them beyond their shelter tense and even scary. While it's easy to say, this show wasn't scary, while in the comfort of our homes, with no danger of death outside our windows. Let's try to think how people would feel if they where put in the shoes of these girls where not a whole lot is known about the zombies, and how even one bite or maybe even a scratch could prove fatal. Pretty sure for most the feeling would be fear and thus the horror tag. See here's the problem, the show doesn't really do a good job in making it seem like any of the characters could die any second. They're usually either safe and sound doing random stuff in their club/on the roof. We already knew everyone would come out safe and sound from the mall because it was a flashback (would've been more tense had they not done it in that manner imo), Yuki is pretty much the MC so she has plot armor, Yuuri never does the dirty work :P, Kurumi is basically the zombie slayer of the group and Megunee was already dead. The only times their lives seemed in danger was during one of the first episodes when they were searching for food in the school at night and during episode 11. That's pretty much it (well for me at least). I suppose the main issue is that they were too safe for one to feel like they were in any danger. The school basically had everything they needed and they had barricades so the zombies couldn't go up to their floor. Had they had more motives to go past the barricades, less SoL, and had that mall episode not been a flashback the show would've felt more tense. That and CG zombies aren't really that scary/creepy lol. Oh yea, there's also the fact that them having a vaccine for the cure makes it even worse since they can just cure themselves if they get bitten/scratch as was done with Kurumi. |
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| dude , of course the original always better than its adaption remember avatar or dragon ball or maybe Eragon ? yes, thats it but i think this anime adaption not very bad from the manga itself the characters stay consistent like its manga (Megu-nee died, Yuki is insane, Kurumi is badass, the dog died, the zombies still wants a hug, etc) yeah i know some scenes are skipped and replaced by fillers, which is not so bad either |
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| Me, kinda. I honestly felt like I was watching The Purge, and not the sequel. I'm talking about the original Purge where it was basically a story about home invasion. That was exactly what I saw if I had to describe this properly. Yeah the shock value was pretty awesome in the first episode and there were some episodes that kept you on your toes, but at the end of the day, it was a show I wanted to like, not sure if I can even say it did this genre correctly as I hoped. I loved the fear, I loved the despair, and I loved the certainty of death, but I wasn't sure how I really felt about everything else. I still gave it a favorable score. |
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xKula said: Sourire said: well, there's the different between changing scenes for better Characterization and changing scenes for character to look dumb.........ironic coming from you as you cried week after week about how fate wasn't faithful to the VN. @OP Nope. Not to mention between - Taking a more artistic approach to the very same tone of the source material, while still staying respectful to it. and - Trying to force a show into entirely different genre, simplifying a lot of elements for the sake of that. Gakkou Gurashi is adaptation adapted right - it does not necessarily follow everything exactly(because it is impossible) and it puts its own approach on various themes within the work, while still managing to remain an adaptation. It is not a "lesser" version. Nothing is lost and if anything a lot of aspects are enhanced. ITs an adaptation done right. An adaptation that knows what it wants to be and how to present it. UBW was just...eh...a mess. It took a very psychological and lore-filled work that i slower and more focused on exploring the characters and tried to turn it into explosive shonen action blockbuster, which in turn made characters look way worse(not to mention some specifical changes to make them look worse that I can't interpret in any other way but as director's bias). Some compared it with how Tokyo Ghoul was adapted, but I have yet to read the manga in that and have no idea how comparable the adaptation fuck ups are. |
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| Adaptation is complete shit. -Miki is completely pointless at the beginning due to not being annoyed by Yuki's insanity -Miki's whole backstory as flashback -Her drama over Kei dragged till end of anime unlike in manga where that scene was end of Mall arc -Kurumi didn't visit her house -anime had almost nothing of manga atmosphere, zero tension even during last two episodes. Boring for most of time. -Fucking dog ruined everything. Anime made him main character and it was terrible change. Miki was more concerned about that little shit than Kurumi who was dying/changing into zombie. I'm too angry to write more.  |
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| Just finished to chapter 30 where the anime finished off. I feel the anime did a good job, the manga's pace is too fast that I don't feel anything from the plot twist. The revelation of Megu-nee's death is shown on chapter 5 without proper build up, unlike in the anime. Or the revelation of Yuki's delusions was so short that it didn't become a plot twist like in episode 1. The sudden revelation of Megu-nee did not impact as much as the anime did where in the anime they build up viewers into believing Megu-nee is still alive. So the anime did a great job on attaching the viewers to Megu-nee's death in episode 6 when Miki asked who is Megu-nee, it made me shivers. There are no twists whatsoever and everything is all straight and forward. Not even subtle hints or anything. Just girls, school, zombies. While the anime does girls, plot twist with proper build up (Yuki's delusion), feels, school, plot twist with proper build up (Megu-nee's death), feels, zombies, feels (Taroumaru is more relevant in the anime to build up sadness and Miki's character to be more developed). In the manga Megu-nee has less screen time than the anime, but Megu-nee has been one of the highest point that made people loves Gakkou Gurashi (Megu-nee's fanart on Pixiv always got into ranking, especially today's ranking Megu-nee fanart got #1), because people got sad that Megu-nee is not real and she's dead all the time. Although I agreed that the manga took more of a dark theme like Miki trying to shove reality to Yuki. Or Kurumi shoving Miki to the wall about the safety manual. Or that Taroumaru is long dead and is not connected at all to Miki. Or Kurumi's kill scenes are not censored. Or the part that Rii-san REALLY tries to kill Kurumi if only Miki didn't stop her, unlike in the anime where she grow some sense. Or scary Yuki faces on chapter 21. Also chapter 22 is really good with Zombie-nee, it's sad that is not adapted. Also the helicopter chapters was skipped sadly :( It was kind of good, heck it has more action than the whole anime lol. Well all in all there is pros and cons. But the anime made us more attached to the characters while the manga is more actions and cool and dark. I mean Rii-san's breakdown on chapter 27-28 is SO much better than episode 11 where she is conflicted with killing Kurumi. Also I love chapter 29 where Yuki goes crazy and killed a zombie. Also Miki got an awesome eyepatch~ Why did they skipped the helicopter scene TwT they could easily made 13 episodes for this season. So... I suppose you can enjoy both of them right? It won't hurt you anyway to like both of them by thinking them as more of two different stories with the same characters. |
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| I never read the original material, but I still hated it. The final episode ruined it; it dropped from 7/10 to 4/10. Fuck plot armors, and fuck that dog. |
bastek66 said: -Miki is completely pointless at the beginning due to not being annoyed by Yuki's insanity Except she is and that is her point of being there from the start - she questions it all. -Miki's whole backstory as flashback "baw they changed it, not it sucks" -Her drama over Kei dragged till end of anime unlike in manga where that scene was end of Mall arc thats a positive. It makes her character development stronger and it fits as a book-end. -Kurumi didn't visit her house Already explained and handled in the flashback and it changes nothing. Things have t o be cut to be adapted. -anime had almost nothing of manga atmosphere, zero tension even during last two episodes. Boring for most of time. Thats your opinion. For me the anime has far more tense atmosphere while manga has more in-your-face-zombie-apocalypse-shtick. -Fucking dog ruined everything. Anime made him main character and it was terrible change. Miki was more concerned about that little shit than Kurumi who was dying/changing into zombie. Ruined? Taroumaru's addition is easily the best and most emotional thing the show could do. Miki being annoyed at what happened to him makes perfect sense as countless people explained it in previous ep threads. |
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bastek66 said: -anime had almost nothing of manga atmosphere, zero tension even during last two episodes. Boring for most of time. -Fucking dog ruined everything. Anime made him main character and it was terrible change. Miki was more concerned about that little shit than Kurumi who was dying/changing into zombie. ] This. The only scenes (that I can recall off the top of my head) that had a lot of tension were when Yukki encountered a zombie in the library and Rii with the knife. That dog did ruin the show (stole Yukki's part), he became the hero at the end... The fear that they had of Torumaru when he came back to the clubroom,scratching the door after Megu-nee got rid of him because he turned in the manga gave me chills. The chapter where Yukki was locked in the toilet waiting for Kurumi was a bit of a tear jerker. |
bastek66 said: I'm not terribly disappointed in this adaptation, I still enjoyed it some way or another. I just wish they kept the way the manga illustrated the events since they were obviously much darker. |
| Manga was great imo, and with all the good reviews, im gonna check the anime out sooner or later So yeah thats a downright... RayAdha said: |
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CookingPriest said: bastek66 said: -Miki is completely pointless at the beginning due to not being annoyed by Yuki's insanity Except she is and that is her point of being there from the start - she questions it all.. apparently you can't tell what "annoyed" should mean. she was so characterless in the opening episodes ugh CookingPriest said: -Kurumi didn't visit her house Already explained and handled in the flashback and it changes nothing. Things have t o be cut to be adapted. because we all know we REALLY needed all the pointless Taroumaru scenes. I couldn't agree with you more, there were definitely, absolutely NO scenes where there was zero need for them and zero character development. No stupid scenes that could be sacrificed to give a chara more development. |
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| Well I read the entire manga in like an hour this morning after finishing the anime I think the darker themes are much better executed and directed in the anime, partially because the manga's pacing is just so fast. Like really there's almost no time for stuff to sink in before it proceeds On the other hand the anime added all kinds of SoL filler content which I guess was nice for the sake of contrast, but it still did it way too much. Especially the pool episode was so unnecessary So it depends on how you look at it There are also a lot of chapters switched around in the adaptation as far as the order goes as well as some segments left out altogether, but I still think both versions worked out |
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CookingPriest said: Nope. AN adaptation does not have to be a carbon copy of the original. In many aspects(presentation, visuals, psychological aspects, atmosphere, structure) anime is far superior to the source material. Just because it is different does not mean it is not faithful or automatically bad. BRAVO!!!!!!! I just hate people saying anime adaption is shit if it doesn't follow 100% of the manga. |
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CookingPriest said: Nope. AN adaptation does not have to be a carbon copy of the original. In many aspects(presentation, visuals, psychological aspects, atmosphere, structure) anime is far superior to the source material. Just because it is different does not mean it is not faithful or automatically bad. It is different in a bad way since many scenes that made the manga so good were simply cut to make room for the dog. Just because it ids different does not mean it is faithful or automatically good ;) |
| Kinda, maybe. But "super" is exaggerating though. Reminder that, the anime is not follow manga completely, but there's no major changes of actual story. The anime was in the middle of beating the manga, imo. It has better structure and explanation, it has potential, really. But, in the end some potential are wasted by some things. I just can said this much for now, maybe explain more later. I have to re-read the manga and re-watch anime again to do complete comparison, lol. |
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trabeus1 said: BRAVO!!!!!!! I just hate people saying anime adaption is shit if it doesn't follow 100% of the manga. The problem is not "following the manga" but "replacing character delevopment related things with the dog for no reason" imo. |
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Avenger-senpai said: This is true, my mistake then in misunderstanding your first sentence there. Never did I say gore is needed for a show to be Horror. Avenger-senpai said: See here's the problem, the show doesn't really do a good job in making it seem like any of the characters could die any second. They're usually either safe and sound doing random stuff in their club/on the roof. We already knew everyone would come out safe and sound from the mall because it was a flashback (would've been more tense had they not done it in that manner imo), Yuki is pretty much the MC so she has plot armor, Yuuri never does the dirty work :P, Kurumi is basically the zombie slayer of the group and Megunee was already dead. The only times their lives seemed in danger was during one of the first episodes when they were searching for food in the school at night and during episode 11. That's pretty much it (well for me at least). I suppose the main issue is that they were too safe for one to feel like they were in any danger. The school basically had everything they needed and they had barricades so the zombies couldn't go up to their floor. Had they had more motives to go past the barricades, less SoL, and had that mall episode not been a flashback the show would've felt more tense. That and CG zombies aren't really that scary/creepy lol. Yeah definitely agree with you on most of those points. The anime weakened a lot of it's tense moments in favor of more shock value and balance in the sol department. Anyway the main point I was trying to say was I still think the horror tag is justifiable for this anime. Comparable to other horror anime's GG won't be able to hold a candle to them but I still believe it warrants the horror tag. Oh yea, there's also the fact that them having a vaccine for the cure makes it even worse since they can just cure themselves if they get bitten/scratch as was done with Kurumi. I would debate against this, but since the anime doesn't cover the details of the vaccine I really can't. All I can say is we may get to learn more about that in season 2 or if folks read the manga. UnderminE said: The problem is not "following the manga" but "replacing character development related things with the dog for no reason" imo. I agree with this, but at the same time if I could have it my way the series wouldn't have ended on ep 12. I would have it end on maybe ep 14 or 15 and include the best of both worlds from the manga and anime. That's a whole different can of worms though. |
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| I mean it is a Horror because of the zombies but I just found it pretty lackluster in that department. Planning on checking out the manga eventually so looking forward to seeing the differences and non CG zombies xD |
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Javera said: bastek66 said: I'm not terribly disappointed in this adaptation, I still enjoyed it some way or another. I just wish they kept the way the manga illustrated the events since they were obviously much darker.AS I said, manga is more in your face with "omg the horror", while anime is subtler and executes it better. You don't need edgy character facial expressions to portray the atmosphere and anime perfectly handled the dissonance. |
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JewellTH said: RayAdha said: |
| I'm not sure if I can talk about disappointment since I read the manga after 10th episode, but I'm definitely salty. I'm not fond of slice of life, however, the idea of Gakkou Gurashi seemed pretty appealing to me. Because... I thought it'd really be a horror and I'm not talking here about gore or jumpscares. I completly agree with Avenger-senpai. I'd say every girl seems to have better plot armor than in the manga version, although it's present there as well. But I don't mind it, because I'd rather be focused on the psychological aspect than unstoppable action. The problem is, I didn't sense these vibes in anime. Right now I feel like it was mostly about happy, safe moments. Unfortunately, it didn't make me become attached to these characters. Well, I'm not attached to their manga counterparts either, but at least they are more interesting in my opinion. I love dark series, so - obviously - I prefer manga. Zombie apocalypse is a terrifying setting, but I wouldn't say it matters that much if these shady parts are barely visible. However, I understand if someone is satisfied with the anime - it's just not my cup of tea, I guess. I hate Taroumaru. |
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CookingPriest said: xKula said: well, there's the different between changing scenes for better Characterization and changing scenes for character to look dumb......... @OP Nope. Not to mention between - Taking a more artistic approach to the very same tone of the source material, while still staying respectful to it. and - Trying to force a show into entirely different genre, simplifying a lot of elements for the sake of that. Gakkou Gurashi is adaptation adapted right - it does not necessarily follow everything exactly(because it is impossible) and it puts its own approach on various themes within the work, while still managing to remain an adaptation. It is not a "lesser" version. Nothing is lost and if anything a lot of aspects are enhanced. ITs an adaptation done right. An adaptation that knows what it wants to be and how to present it. UBW was just...eh...a mess. It took a very psychological and lore-filled work that i slower and more focused on exploring the characters and tried to turn it into explosive shonen action blockbuster, which in turn made characters look way worse(not to mention some specifical changes to make them look worse that I can't interpret in any other way but as director's bias). Some compared it with how Tokyo Ghoul was adapted, but I have yet to read the manga in that and have no idea how comparable the adaptation fuck ups are. This. |
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| Well hating on the adaptation because of a dog is just stupid lmao I'm even laughing at all these people. For me, what I hate in this adaptation is that they omitted some important scenes from the manga just to be replaced by a fcking filler pool episode, other than that it's fine at least. |
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fredchickens said: Well hating on the adaptation because of a dog is just stupid lmao I'm even laughing at all these people. For me, what I hate in this adaptation is that they omitted some important scenes from the manga just to be replaced by a fcking filler pool episode, other than that it's fine at least. If you bring all unnecessary dog scenes together, it also makes an entire episode (or even more) so that's the problem. Kittenpotpie said: >not liking this amazing adaptation >hating on taroumaru (best char ;_;) green texting |
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CookingPriest said: Nope. AN adaptation does not have to be a carbon copy of the original. In many aspects(presentation, visuals, psychological aspects, atmosphere, structure) anime is far superior to the source material. Just because it is different does not mean it is not faithful or automatically bad. Coming from someone who didn't read the manga, You gotta be trolling kidding man. |
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CookingPriest said: Nope. AN adaptation does not have to be a carbon copy of the original. In many aspects(presentation, visuals, psychological aspects, atmosphere, structure) anime is far superior to the source material. Just because it is different does not mean it is not faithful or automatically bad. this |
| People where getting there hopes up once again. It was not necessarily a bad anime, but just becouse it is a unique one does not mean it is going to be something near 9. Learn to f*cking judge a anime guz. facking god how hard can it be. |
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CookingPriest said: Nope. AN adaptation does not have to be a carbon copy of the original. In many aspects(presentation, visuals, psychological aspects, atmosphere, structure) anime is far superior to the source material. Just because it is different does not mean it is not faithful or automatically bad. really great answer |
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bastek66 said: Normally, this would be a smart and funny joke, but you never complained about the girls being annoying moron. You didn't even say "They were out of character", you just talked about the dog, the pacing, and the story. Your point in this picture = Failed! |
| 5/10 no storing value. They could've deviate from the manga and kill them all, or just leave the pink one. Yes, kill all except pink one, make her loose mind completely, let her fall into her imagined reality. Last shot would be: from her point of view. She's happy, everything is bright and everyone's happy. Her friends initiate group hugging procedure. Switch to real life. She stands drenched in blood with tears rolling out of closed eyes with a smile on her face, and arms reaching for a hug, when her undead friends close in to take bite. Roll credits. It would be really beautifully grimdark. |
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