| Well if he (or the people who put him up to it) had the genius idea to throw stones at armed soldiers he can estimate himself lucky that he didn't get shot. And the group of women assaulting the soldier really had a lot of chance that the soldier managed to not panic and start shooting to defend himself. |
| Good on them for protecting that boy. IDF criminals belong in the trash. |
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| Such badasses. |
| Why are we still here? Just to suffer? Every night, I can feel my leg... and my arm... even my fingers. The body I've lost... the comrades I've lost... won't stop hurting... It's like they're all still there. You feel it, too, don't you? I'm gonna make them give back our past." |
| Lol. They should have just let him throw stuff at them in peace! Those monsters! |
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| I woulda told him to stop being a dick then threw a rock back at him. |
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| so much hate for the soldier. if he wanted to kill the kid he could have easily before the mob even got there. you cant throw rocks at armed soldiers and expect nothing to happen. |
joey101937 said: so much hate for the soldier. if he wanted to kill the kid he could have easily before the mob even got there. you cant throw rocks at armed soldiers and expect nothing to happen. If there were soldiers that demolished you and your friends' homes, and made your life a living hell, you'd want to at least throw rocks at them too. |
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Working_Designs said: joey101937 said: so much hate for the soldier. if he wanted to kill the kid he could have easily before the mob even got there. you cant throw rocks at armed soldiers and expect nothing to happen. If there were soldiers that demolished you and your friends' homes, and made your life a living hell, you'd want to at least throw rocks at them too. he is a soldier in an active war zone and someone threw something at him. the kid is lucky the guy looked to make sure it wasn't just a kid throwing rocks before returning fire. lucky he didn't, especially when he was mobbed ad injured by the kid's friends. also, what did they even "protect" him from? he was going to be detained, not killed. |
joey101937 said: Working_Designs said: If there were soldiers that demolished you and your friends' homes, and made your life a living hell, you'd want to at least throw rocks at them too. he is a soldier in an active war zone and someone threw something at him. the kid is lucky the guy looked to make sure it wasn't just a kid throwing rocks before returning fire. lucky he didn't, especially when he was mobbed ad injured by the kid's friends. also, what did they even "protect" him from? he was going to be detained, not killed. Do you know how long Palestinians get detained sometimes? A lot longer than an Israeli for the same crime. And the IDF have killed many innocent Palestinian people over the years. |
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Veneficia said: RedRoseFring said: Lol. They should have just let him throw stuff at them in peace! Those monsters! |
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Working_Designs said: joey101937 said: he is a soldier in an active war zone and someone threw something at him. the kid is lucky the guy looked to make sure it wasn't just a kid throwing rocks before returning fire. lucky he didn't, especially when he was mobbed ad injured by the kid's friends. also, what did they even "protect" him from? he was going to be detained, not killed. 1.Do you know how long Palestinians get detained sometimes? A lot longer than an Israeli for the same crime. 2.And the IDF have killed many innocent Palestinian people over the years. 1. i doubt that they would hold a civilian minor for all that long, get a some sources for that 2. that is quite the assumption, considering you don't even know the guy and that he didnt open fire after being mobbed. |
joey101937 said: Working_Designs said: 1.Do you know how long Palestinians get detained sometimes? A lot longer than an Israeli for the same crime. 2.And the IDF have killed many innocent Palestinian people over the years. 1. i doubt that they would hold a civilian minor for all that long, get a some sources for that 2. that is quite the assumption, considering you don't even know the guy and that he didnt open fire after being mobbed. You're clearly a Zionist, so I'm not wasting my time arguing with you. |
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Working_Designs said: joey101937 said: 1. i doubt that they would hold a civilian minor for all that long, get a some sources for that 2. that is quite the assumption, considering you don't even know the guy and that he didnt open fire after being mobbed. You're clearly a Zionist, so I'm not wasting my time arguing with you. you make baseless assertions then claim im a Zionist for asking for proof or sources. nice way to make a case. |
joey101937 said: Working_Designs said: You're clearly a Zionist, so I'm not wasting my time arguing with you. you make baseless assertions then claim im a Zionist for asking for proof or sources. nice way to make a case. I shouldn't have to show any additional "Proof." If you read outside the mainstream media, you would know exactly what I'm talking about. The Israeli government and army are terrorists, and anyone who would ever support them are evil. |
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Working_Designs said: joey101937 said: you make baseless assertions then claim im a Zionist for asking for proof or sources. nice way to make a case. I shouldn't have to show any additional "Proof." If you read outside the mainstream media, you would know exactly what I'm talking about. The Israeli government and army are terrorists, and anyone who would ever support them are evil. no point in arguing with someone who keeps making unsupported assertions |
joey101937 said: Working_Designs said: I shouldn't have to show any additional "Proof." If you read outside the mainstream media, you would know exactly what I'm talking about. The Israeli government and army are terrorists, and anyone who would ever support them are evil. no point in arguing with someone who keeps making unsupported assertions Tell me, what do you know about the Israeli government/army? |
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| The question is: was the child actually throwing rocks or not? |
[i]"Yet each man kills the thing he loves, [/i]By each let this be heard, Some do it with a bitter look, Some with a flattering word, The coward does it with a kiss, The brave man with a sword!'' ~Oscar |
FGAU1912 said: Not joining sides on the original debate here, just thought I would chime in to say: joey101937 said: you make baseless assertions then claim im a Zionist for asking for proof or sources. nice way to make a case. working is not wrong you 100% a Zionist 1. Burden of proof is on the one making a claim. If you want to make a claim, make sure to back it up. Saying "That is common knowledge" just invites the question "Then why can't you take 2 seconds to bring up proof?" 2. Discrediting one's argument, or their questioning of your argument, through insults towards their character is an ad hominen. A fallacy. You can call him whatever you would like, and whether it is true or not, it doesn't make your original claim any more "right", or his original claim any more "wrong". --------------------------- On Topic: I side with those that are saying "Kid is lucky he didn't get killed". Listen, what Israel does is awful, sure, however knowing that they are awful, wouldn't that be all the more reason to NOT do something stupid like throw stones at an armed soldier? |
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Pirating_Ninja said: I side with those that are saying "Kid is lucky he didn't get killed". Listen, what Israel does is awful, sure, however knowing that they are awful, wouldn't that be all the more reason to NOT do something stupid like throw stones at an armed soldier? Put yourself in the shoes of a kid living in a war-torn country. Even the slightest move against your oppressor becomes an act of great valor. |
[i]"Yet each man kills the thing he loves, [/i]By each let this be heard, Some do it with a bitter look, Some with a flattering word, The coward does it with a kiss, The brave man with a sword!'' ~Oscar |
Pirating_Ninja said: I side with those that are saying "Kid is lucky he didn't get killed". Listen, what Israel does is awful, sure, however knowing that they are awful, wouldn't that be all the more reason to NOT do something stupid like throw stones at an armed soldier? He's a kid. Don't expect a kid who grew up in a warn torn country with death at every corner and time of day care about death. |
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Imeon said: I imagine kids growing up in a war torn country would do a lot to avoid death knowing it's at every corner.Pirating_Ninja said: I side with those that are saying "Kid is lucky he didn't get killed". Listen, what Israel does is awful, sure, however knowing that they are awful, wouldn't that be all the more reason to NOT do something stupid like throw stones at an armed soldier? He's a kid. Don't expect a kid who grew up in a warn torn country with death at every corner and time of day care about death. |
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CommanderCaim said: Agreed. It is pretty arrogant to believe that "because they grew up surrounded by death", they don't care whether they live or die. Most humans, regardless of their circumstances, don't want to die. Thinking otherwise could lead to some rather nasty results.Imeon said: I imagine kids growing up in a war torn country would do a lot to avoid death knowing it's at every corner.He's a kid. Don't expect a kid who grew up in a warn torn country with death at every corner and time of day care about death. |
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CommanderCaim said: I imagine kids growing up in a war torn country would do a lot to avoid death knowing it's at every corner. Where does that kid of your live anyway? America? Pirating_Ninja said: Agreed. It is pretty arrogant to believe that "because they grew up surrounded by death", they don't care whether they live or die. Most humans, regardless of their circumstances, don't want to die. Thinking otherwise could lead to some rather nasty results. At least you said "Most" and not "All". Put the child in the exception. Thank you. |
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Imeon said: The kid was crying like a little bitch when the Israeli got him. We can make the assumption that he had some desire to live (assuming he was throwing the stones). What are you trying to prove here?CommanderCaim said: I imagine kids growing up in a war torn country would do a lot to avoid death knowing it's at every corner. Where does that kid of your live anyway? America? Pirating_Ninja said: Agreed. It is pretty arrogant to believe that "because they grew up surrounded by death", they don't care whether they live or die. Most humans, regardless of their circumstances, don't want to die. Thinking otherwise could lead to some rather nasty results. At least you said "Most" and not "All". Put the child in the exception. Thank you. |
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CommanderCaim said: What are you trying to prove here? Yeah, like Bitches. Ok. Anyway such kids exist, that's what I'm trying to prove. Get it? If you don't believe it, use google. If still not, who cares. |
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Imeon said: You were trying to prove that kids can be full of naivety? We already established that. You literally contributed nothing.CommanderCaim said: What are you trying to prove here? Such kids exist, that's what I'm trying to prove. Get it? If you don't believe it, use google. If still not, who cares. Stop being a witless twit. |
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CommanderCaim said: You were trying to prove that kids can be full of naivety? We already established that. You literally contributed nothing. I was just replying with this statement of yours I imagine kids growing up in a war torn country would do a lot to avoid death knowing it's at every corner. It depends on the kids perception and understanding of his surrounding. You can't always assume that "All kids will run away after being pointed with gun." They got used to it. Call it naivety but they think nothing else but to throw something against this "bad persons". |
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| CommanderCaim and Pirating_Ninja, you two are basically asking an abused wife to remain submissive to her abusive husband till the end of her days. |
[i]"Yet each man kills the thing he loves, [/i]By each let this be heard, Some do it with a bitter look, Some with a flattering word, The coward does it with a kiss, The brave man with a sword!'' ~Oscar |
geniobastardo said: That is a retarded analogy. In that instance, please explain to me, who are the authorities that have every right (and will) arrest the abusive husband(i.e. Israel). Last time I checked, even the US who thinks of themselves as the world's police, won't pick up the 911 call of a child throwing stones at soldiers, and instantly come to his rescue. Neither will the UN. Who is the supposed police in this scenario? (Also, technically, by returning violence, it is possible that he would be convicted too if you were trying to apply domestic abuse to this. After all, regardless of his reasoning, he struck out at the "abusive husband", and it clearly wasn't in self-defense.)CommanderCaim and Pirating_Ninja, you two are basically asking an abused wife to remain submissive to her abusive husband till the end of her days. Also, this analogy implies that the the kid (abused wife) is justified in striking back at the Isreali soldiers (husband). In other words you are justifying a crime. Whether or not the wife is a victim of abuse, striking back turns her from a victim to a criminal. Plain and simple. This was a bad analogy, sorry. |
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Imeon said: Something tells me you're either trolling or incredibly stupid. I'm wishing it's the former though I feel it's the latter.CommanderCaim said: You were trying to prove that kids can be full of naivety? We already established that. You literally contributed nothing. Stop being a witless twit. You only get it now? What the hell? Move on. geniobastardo said: Uh no, that's a shitty comparison. I know you hate Israel and all but don't let your bias get in the way of common sense.CommanderCaim and Pirating_Ninja, you two are basically asking an abused wife to remain submissive to her abusive husband till the end of her days. It's incredibly dumb for a young kid like him to risk his life provoking an armed Israeli soldier. If he has a score to settle with Israelis, he should join whatever political faction there is and spread his discontent. |
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Pirating_Ninja said: geniobastardo said: That is a retarded analogy. In that instance, please explain to me, who are the authorities that have every right (and will) arrest the abusive husband(i.e. Israel). Last time I checked, even the US who thinks of themselves as the world's police, won't pick up the 911 call of a child throwing stones at soldiers, and instantly come to his rescue. Neither will the UN. Who is the supposed police in this scenario? (Also, technically, by returning violence, it is possible that he would be convicted too if you were trying to apply domestic abuse to this. After all, regardless of his reasoning, he struck out at the "abusive husband", and it clearly wasn't in self-defense.)CommanderCaim and Pirating_Ninja, you two are basically asking an abused wife to remain submissive to her abusive husband till the end of her days. Also, this analogy implies that the the kid (abused wife) is justified in striking back at the Isreali soldiers (husband). In other words you are justifying a crime. Whether or not the wife is a victim of abuse, striking back turns her from a victim to a criminal. Plain and simple. This was a bad analogy, sorry. Your assumption that there is always a 'police' in such cases is even worse. Well, we are looking at it from different angles. Because there's no such thing as 'domestic violence' in Pakistan's Constitution, so everything is up to the wife and her supporters to solve. Whether I'm justifying the kid's actions or not, that's a different matter. But your saying, that the kid shouldn't have attacked because it's nonsensical to do in pretext of no 'impunity', is a little off when put in a 'realistic' view. CommanderCaim said: Uh no, that's a shitty comparison. I know you hate Israel and all but don't let your bias get in the way of common sense. It's incredibly dumb for a young kid like him to risk his life provoking an armed Israeli soldier. If he has a score to settle with Israelis, he should join whatever political faction there is and spread his discontent. If you really believe that Palestinians see Hamas or PLO as their liberators then get the fuck out of this thread. |
[i]"Yet each man kills the thing he loves, [/i]By each let this be heard, Some do it with a bitter look, Some with a flattering word, The coward does it with a kiss, The brave man with a sword!'' ~Oscar |
geniobastardo said: Implying I was referring to Hamas or PLO.CommanderCaim said: Uh no, that's a shitty comparison. I know you hate Israel and all but don't let your bias get in the way of common sense. It's incredibly dumb for a young kid like him to risk his life provoking an armed Israeli soldier. If he has a score to settle with Israelis, he should join whatever political faction there is and spread his discontent. If you really believe that Palestinians see Hamas or PLO as their liberators then get the fuck out of this thread. Get your head out of your ass Genio. |
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geniobastardo said: Pirating_Ninja said: That is a retarded analogy. In that instance, please explain to me, who are the authorities that have every right (and will) arrest the abusive husband(i.e. Israel). Last time I checked, even the US who thinks of themselves as the world's police, won't pick up the 911 call of a child throwing stones at soldiers, and instantly come to his rescue. Neither will the UN. Who is the supposed police in this scenario? (Also, technically, by returning violence, it is possible that he would be convicted too if you were trying to apply domestic abuse to this. After all, regardless of his reasoning, he struck out at the "abusive husband", and it clearly wasn't in self-defense.) Also, this analogy implies that the the kid (abused wife) is justified in striking back at the Isreali soldiers (husband). In other words you are justifying a crime. Whether or not the wife is a victim of abuse, striking back turns her from a victim to a criminal. Plain and simple. This was a bad analogy, sorry. Your assumption that there is always a 'police' in such cases is even worse. Well, we are looking at it from different angles. Because there's no such thing as 'domestic violence' in Pakistan's Constitution, so everything is up to the wife and her supporters to solve. Whether I'm justifying the kid's actions or not, that's a different matter. But your saying, that the kid shouldn't have attacked because it's nonsensical to do in pretext of no 'impunity', is a little off when put in a 'realistic' view. CommanderCaim said: Uh no, that's a shitty comparison. I know you hate Israel and all but don't let your bias get in the way of common sense. It's incredibly dumb for a young kid like him to risk his life provoking an armed Israeli soldier. If he has a score to settle with Israelis, he should join whatever political faction there is and spread his discontent. If you really believe that Palestinians see Hamas or PLO as their liberators then get the fuck out of this thread. Nigga shut up. Quit with your intellectual bullshit nobody wants to hear it. You don't realize how dumb you sound. |
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CommanderCaim said: geniobastardo said: Implying I was referring to Hamas or PLO.If you really believe that Palestinians see Hamas or PLO as their liberators then get the fuck out of this thread. Get your head out of your ass Genio. Then what were you implying? The fucking air? What 'political' bearing does the Palestinians have over there? PA? Don't kid yourself. |
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LucidSky said: Nigga shut up. Quit with your intellectual bullshit nobody wants to hear it. You don't realize how dumb you sound. K. |
[i]"Yet each man kills the thing he loves, [/i]By each let this be heard, Some do it with a bitter look, Some with a flattering word, The coward does it with a kiss, The brave man with a sword!'' ~Oscar |
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geniobastardo said: A lot when they decide to actually do something intelligent instead of throw rocks. A voice can change millions. This skirmish won't change anything, it will only bring more anger on both sides. It would be unwise for Palestinians to resort to violence when Israel is currently being condemned for violence. This would only make both sides look ridiculous.CommanderCaim said: Implying I was referring to Hamas or PLO. Get your head out of your ass Genio. Then what were you implying? The fucking air? What 'political' bearing does the Palestinians have over there? PA? Don't kid yourself. |
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CommanderCaim said: A lot when they decide to actually do something intelligent instead of throw rocks. A voice can change millions. This skirmish won't change anything, it will only bring more anger on both sides. It would be unwise for Palestinians to resort to violence when Israel is currently being condemned for violence. This would only make both sides look ridiculous. When you look back at my post, you'll see that I, pretty much, asked the same thing except worded differently: How do the Palestinians raise their voice? You might want to get more information about the Palestinians. |
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CommanderCaim said: Something tells me you're either trolling or incredibly stupid. I'm wishing it's the former though I feel it's the latter Think whatever you want. CommanderCaim said: . I know you hate Israel It's obvious how you hide your hate for all Muslims behind the words you say. I don't know why you compare a kids way of thinking should be similar to how you think they should. If you think it's wiser to stand at a corner because a gun is pointed at you then go ahead. You were raised that way and will die that way. |
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| You can be sympathetic all you want, but you'd better add some sense to that sympathy or you may very well condone the stupid actions that got him into trouble in the first place. Sure you hate Israel and all, but for the sake of the child, you'd better tell him to wise up, or get his parents & leaders to do so. |
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