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Jul 26, 2009 11:23 PM

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Kira01 said:
Just as I thought.. *broke out in laughters*



Next episode



Agreed,


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aeroJul 27, 2009 3:56 AM
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Jul 26, 2009 11:51 PM

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What the fuck just happened.
Jul 27, 2009 12:03 AM

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noteDhero said:
I'm talking about the axillary artery.

But now that I think about it...we're arguing realism in a show where someone gets shot like 7 times in the chest, drops into a bay and is still alive.


I can't defend that one..............................
Jul 27, 2009 1:22 AM

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kerobear: Thanks for spoiling the story even without spoilertag. I'm sure that people will be grateful. Are you guys even USING your brains? *censored*
Jul 27, 2009 4:09 AM
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nooo...I hope Cal isn't dead..i really liked her character
AceSoldiaJul 27, 2009 4:15 AM
Jul 27, 2009 11:12 AM

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Racu said:
i think the final episode will be like this


Jul 27, 2009 3:25 PM

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Nayrael said:
Racu said:
i think the final episode will be like this




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Jul 27, 2009 3:49 PM

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Chances that Cal is dead are 0%. This show doesn't have the guts to kill her so easily.

Anyhow, this episode reminded me why I liked this show so much before. It was great. Full of suspense, some killing, not too much though, and scene with Ein and Zwei on that train.

Last thing is the one that worked best for me, since with those 2 on screen, I really feel like there are some real, sad emotions, unlike Cal and Reiji, which reminds me of father and daughter.

noteDhero said:
Fuck that...the only ending I'll care about is everyone dying.


You know, this came to my mind when I was watching 10th or so episode. It would really be the best ending.
However, I seriously doubt it, this show is nowhere close to that ending. It will probably have happy ending with most likely someone from magic trio (Ein, Zwei, Cal) dying for other two, and other two living happily ever after.
nina4lifeJul 27, 2009 3:53 PM
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I keep underestimating the fact that this is based off of a visual novel, and that, in my history, visual novel adaptations have a tendency to seemingly kill characters, reneg and then have a happy ending. So you may be right, or the three all live to some extent.
Jul 27, 2009 6:07 PM

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noteDhero said:
I keep underestimating the fact that this is based off of a visual novel, and that, in my history, visual novel adaptations have a tendency to seemingly kill characters, reneg and then have a happy ending. So you may be right, or the three all live to some extent.


YEah, me want love triangle or threesome of Cal x Reiji x Elen <333 after realizing that my ideal fivesome of Cal x Reiji x Elen x Claudia x Lizzie went down the drain...



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Jul 27, 2009 8:22 PM

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Liked the episode, but I don't care much for the Godoh guys. The short meeting between Ein and Zwei was nice.
There's no way Cal is dead - they won't kill her off that easily.
Jul 27, 2009 8:31 PM

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Noooo CAL!!
I was like O____ O the whole time.

Best episode yet though!
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Jul 27, 2009 11:02 PM
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You are now aware that Zwei is voiced by Parappa the Rapper.
Jul 28, 2009 12:57 AM

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i think Cal when she will apear again in the anime she will be HOT :X and more beautiful than EIN
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Jul 28, 2009 3:13 AM

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Shiga Faved
Cal Faved
ermmmm well didnt see that coming, Deaths are getting common in anime nowadays

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Jul 28, 2009 9:18 AM

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Racu said:
i think Cal when she will apear again in the anime she will be HOT :X and more beautiful than EIN

Yeah, and prepared to laugh at those Cal haters having their jaws dropped on the floor when they realized how much she will be HOTTER than Elen in both physical appearance as well as personality ;)



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Jul 28, 2009 11:04 AM

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Whereas Ein looks like a grown girl, Cal looks like a little kid. Yea, I read somewhere they are almost same age, but they neither act nor look anything alike.
Jul 28, 2009 12:06 PM
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Good episode overall, another twist I didn't expect.

The one major flaw with this ep though is Cal, obviously, isn't dead. Not that I want her to die, it's just that I get the feeling this is the kinda show where none of the "likeable" characters will die off. Goddoh's lil' flashback scene with Mio definitely felt like an attempt to do just that, but the writers haven't done that great a job of making me give a crap about him, so that scene just fell completely flat for me. Too little too late I guess.

Definitely looking forward to this "Showdown". But, again, I get the feeling neither Ein or Reiji will kill the other and they'll probably both turn on Scythe, Claudia, or most likely both.
Jul 28, 2009 12:10 PM

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abrasicu said:
Racu said:
i think Cal when she will apear again in the anime she will be HOT :X and more beautiful than EIN

Yeah, and prepared to laugh at those Cal haters having their jaws dropped on the floor when they realized how much she will be HOTTER than Elen in both physical appearance as well as personality ;)


LOL u and your cal love
Just wait for Reiji to pick EIN =D
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Jul 28, 2009 5:55 PM

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Why can't Cal just stay dead? :( Actually, I'd keep her alive if she actually became an assassin.
Jul 28, 2009 8:42 PM

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omg what the fuuuck happened to Cal?!
I hope she's safe. I felt bad for Reiji.
Jul 28, 2009 11:34 PM

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Omg... The ending was so... So dramatic :( Finaly he met Ein! Can`t wait 18ep :O
Jul 29, 2009 1:11 AM

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Frankly, I believe that was one of the best episodes, if Cal is dead is the best. Starting to get interesting. Claudia never deceived me =x
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Jul 29, 2009 12:15 PM

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Now is time for VENGEANCE!!!!
Jul 30, 2009 2:32 AM

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Wow Now they have unleashed the beast.

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Jul 30, 2009 6:57 AM

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No way Cal is dead, if they were really going to kill her they would have done it in a way you could actually see. This way they can get out of it very easily, I'm sure she was out doing some late night shopping or something.

I wish they wouldn't bother pretending to kill people, I would be enjoying this series much more if it weren't for the magical survival of Reiji, Ein, and soon Cal after they "died."
Jul 30, 2009 7:33 AM

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No matter if she is dead or not, they don't do it for us, they do it for Reiji as he is the one affected by all of that.
NayraelJul 30, 2009 10:41 AM
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Don't really think Cal's dead yet. I was just starting to like her character.
Just have to wait to see what happens next...
Jul 30, 2009 6:00 PM

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Nayrael said:
No matter if she is dead or not, they don't do it for us, they do it for Reiji as he is the one affected by all of that.


Yeah, but it would be nice if they could convince us of that as well. It would be more engaging.
Jul 31, 2009 12:25 AM

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Soooo, Cal is dead? I kinda dont think she is though.. We got to see Elen........

Reiji almost made me cry with him when the apartment went boom.
Jul 31, 2009 12:40 AM

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Okay what the hell? In mmy mind Elen died. That's a finito. And now Cal is supposed to be dead for a great reunion between Ein & Zwei after psychological battle and killing Scythe? Oh come on... If it's really gonna happen this way my opinion of this anime will really go down.
Anyway I prefered Cal to Ein and I don't like the course it is taking...

That would suck if Cal is brainwashed like Elen and future Cal and Elen both fight Reji.

omfg everything but this T_T
WerchielJul 31, 2009 12:58 AM
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Okay what the hell? In mmy mind Elen died. That's a finito. And now Cal is supposed to be dead for a great reunion between Ein & Zwei after psychological battle and killing Scythe? Oh come on... If it's really gonna happen this way my opinion of this anime will really go down.
Anyway I prefered Cal to Ein and I don't like the course it is taking...


From someone who has played the VN: Don't be so quick in judgement. The chances of being dissapointed in what is going to come are low.

Also, always nice to see someone else who prefers Cal over Ellen.
NayraelJul 31, 2009 1:23 AM
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From someone who has played the VN: Don't be so quick in judgement. The chances of being dissapointed in what is going to come are low.

Then I will trust you and wait with my rating of this anime until it ends. After all everything can change in a matter of one episode.


Also, always nice to see someone else who prefers Cal over Ellen

Yeah she (Cal) is a pretty nice character. She really can be called a character not just an actor if you know what I mean. Or maybe I am talking nonsense well heh just my opinion.
Jul 31, 2009 10:40 AM

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Nayrael said:
Okay what the hell? In mmy mind Elen died. That's a finito. And now Cal is supposed to be dead for a great reunion between Ein & Zwei after psychological battle and killing Scythe? Oh come on... If it's really gonna happen this way my opinion of this anime will really go down.
Anyway I prefered Cal to Ein and I don't like the course it is taking...


From someone who has played the VN: Don't be so quick in judgement. The chances of being dissapointed in what is going to come are low.

Also, always nice to see someone else who prefers Cal over Ellen.
Werchiel said:
From someone who has played the VN: Don't be so quick in judgement. The chances of being dissapointed in what is going to come are low.

Then I will trust you and wait with my rating of this anime until it ends. After all everything can change in a matter of one episode.


Also, always nice to see someone else who prefers Cal over Ellen

Yeah she (Cal) is a pretty nice character. She really can be called a character not just an actor if you know what I mean. Or maybe I am talking nonsense well heh just my opinion.
Werchiel said:
From someone who has played the VN: Don't be so quick in judgement. The chances of being dissapointed in what is going to come are low.

Then I will trust you and wait with my rating of this anime until it ends. After all everything can change in a matter of one episode.


Also, always nice to see someone else who prefers Cal over Ellen

Yeah she (Cal) is a pretty nice character. She really can be called a character not just an actor if you know what I mean. Or maybe I am talking nonsense well heh just my opinion.


Hi guys, count me in for Cal's fanclub too. And you're right, everything about Cal just capture my heart and keep making me wishing for her happiness. I know Elen deserves some love too since she was going through harshness as Cal but for some weird reason, I never really cared much about her.

But oh well, whether its Ein's true ending or Cal's, Cal will wind up happy in one way or another anyway....Unless they wanna go for another bad ending as in the OAV, thats another story...



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Jul 31, 2009 1:00 PM

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Werchiel said:

That would suck if Cal is brainwashed like Elen and future Cal and Elen both fight Reji.

omfg everything but this T_T


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Jul 31, 2009 3:26 PM
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The best episode of the series by far, well-directed, sensible in terms of script and with mostly great developments. After the (false) truth has been revealed, a lot of things will change once again. Wonder what will happen to Cal (Ein and Zwei didn't die when they clearly should have, so I guess Cal isn't dead either).

noteDhero said:
Fuck that...the only ending I'll care about is everyone dying.

Except maybe Claudia.


I agree once again, Claudia is the best character of this series.

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Aug 2, 2009 1:54 PM

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Woooow.

Cal isn't really dead, is she? She can't be! What is Reiji going to do if he loses her?! : (

And the plot thickens. I really liked Claudia too, I'm kind of disappointed that she's so conniving. But damn, it only serves to make the story more and more interesting.
Aug 3, 2009 4:32 AM

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Unless they wanna go for another bad ending as in the OAV, thats another story...



I agree once again, Claudia is the best character of this series.

And why?
Aug 3, 2009 7:51 AM

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Watched episode 17 and no... Cal.. :/ Though she wont die just like Reji and Elen, Its still sad to think that Reji thinks it. The flashblack scenes that played in Reji head was heartbreaking because of what came after.

Really enjoyed all the Cal and Reji scenes so far. Never played the VN, but I'm hanging out for a Cal ending. The shower scene was touching. Interesting how they made it slightly ambiguous, heheh. Loved how both of them grew from being around each other, Cal was able to crack Reji's shell and gradually lift him from the darkness, While Cal was able to learn things from Reji so she would feel/and be able to become more usefull, and ultimately she found someone she loved. Quite touching.

I dont care for Claudia but she has been an strong active player in the show, who didn't enjoy seeing her plotting agaisn't Wisemel.
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Werchiel said:
I agree once again, Claudia is the best character of this series.

And why?


Why? Because there are lots of "whore" lovers who like their woman being bitchy like that, in a good way, of course ;)



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Claudia's the best because she refuses to be a victim of her circumstances and chooses to fight and learn for herself. Yeah, she's power hungry, but she's the most fleshed out of the capable people in this show (doesn't say much, I know), so that's why I like her.
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It's looks like there was a Benz there... briefly shown before the explosion. This is very close to the end of Chapter 2 in the game.

The preview to the next episode appears to show the emergence of the Zahlen Schwestern.
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I'll just hope that she wasn't in there. There are many ways this story can go from here, interesting. :D

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Nice use of Kokia's Insonnia. Love this song.
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I cried so much for Cal at the end... I truly don't and can't understand why people hate her so much? She's such a good and lively character. And she's just a kid in her early teens, I guess. I felt awful to accept the explosion...

and thankfully, after reading this
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Ya I'm pretty sure Cal and Claudia got away. They show a brief shot of the inside of reji's apartment and Cal is no where to be seen. It looks like she was taken out of there in a hurry.

I'm strongly convinced that Cal is alive and was taken away by Claudia. So Claudia is most likely ran away. Perhaps, she plans to use Cal in order to not lose control over Reiji. Moreover, that explosion scene in front of Reiji eyes was probably done by Claudia too. That's how she directs Reiji against Inferno and Scythe.

I might be horribly wrong with this prediction.. but I still like it ^^
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I know she wasn't in there, or the story is screwed..

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I'll just hope that she wasn't in there. There are many ways this story can go from here, interesting. :D
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abrasicu said:


Ok, some might say he come later on but isnt it illogical considering he was like Godoh's right hand and arent right hand dudes ALWAYS follow the boss around ? Another show's flaw, I guess...


You forgot the one who killed them was Ein and Shiga is in cohort with Guiseppe/Scythe. So it is not a surprise that Shiga is unscathed.

I like this episode. I guess the last few episodes were a bit bleh, so this episode kinda makes up to it.
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Well note that everything so far is going almost exactly to script event by event that happened in the Phantom of Inferno game made by Nitro+

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abrasicu said:


Ok, some might say he come later on but isnt it illogical considering he was like Godoh's right hand and arent right hand dudes ALWAYS follow the boss around ? Another show's flaw, I guess...


You forgot the one who killed them was Ein and Shiga is in cohort with Guiseppe/Scythe. So it is not a surprise that Shiga is unscathed.

I like this episode. I guess the last few episodes were a bit bleh, so this episode kinda makes up to it.
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I AM SPEECHLESS! I AM RAGED! Cal might be dead! Ein is confirmed coming back but Calllllllllllllllllllll! :( THIS SUCKS! DAMN YOU SCYTHE!

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I can't believe that Cal is dead now, she was such a nice character.
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