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Nov 4, 2011 12:09 PM
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Volume 12

The Warriors of Twilight

[Pg.21-43]

Yea, you always realize shit after everything is fucked up.

Nov 6, 2011 2:19 AM
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He realized too late.
May 4, 2013 2:52 PM
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Guts realized that his "dream" was already accomplished when he was with the Band of the Hawk. However, I still maintain that there is beauty to his "dream"......wanting to stand on his own two feet without being in the shadow of another person. I think Caska is right, that Guts continuing on would be a service to Griffith's words so long ago. But, leaving her?...I dunno.
"Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job."

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Apr 4, 2014 8:48 AM
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I'm going to assume for my sanity & blood pressure levels that this will be a strategical, temporary goodbye and not a "break up" or long term goodbye.

That said, seeing Griffith broken and quivering on top of Casca was distressing. I hope that was pure emotion and not plotting.
Jul 20, 2015 1:57 AM
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Sad chapter tbh, seeing Griffith all weak/fucked up and Guts having to leave alone :(
Dec 23, 2015 3:27 AM
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Take time to realize.
Mar 29, 2016 10:22 AM
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I can't help but wonder if Griffith's move with Casca wasn't a subtle and very smart manipulative maneuver to keep her with him...

How funny it is Guts feels his dream was accomplished by being with the Band of the Hawk now, when this entire disaster -- a disaster that ruined the lives of countless people -- would've been averted had he realized that before ever leaving the Band to begin with.



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May 27, 2016 8:13 AM
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This quotation is pretty intense - your realize things sometimes first when they are already gone. The same applies to guts as well as to griffith because he's yearning after caska now after he's been ripped off all of his physical qualities with whom he could achieve everything. Maybe he even was to proud of himself so that he thought of caska not being on his level at that time.
Sep 12, 2016 11:48 AM
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Guts never had time to have a proper life, his childhood was battle. So up until he met the Hawks all he was despair and battle, one cant expect someone with such a traumatizing past be without faults. Such as guts now just realizing some things. But i doubt even if he had never left the hawks, like griffith wouldnt have done something eventually. Yet to see an owner of a behelit not use it
Nov 7, 2016 4:41 AM

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You never know what you've got till it's gone... Dammit Guts it's too late now
Apr 27, 2017 11:53 AM
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"Afterglow of the Right Eye"

Wow poor Casca :(
Appears the Skeleton Knight, for what? :/
Sep 11, 2017 11:59 AM

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Griffith ruined it, he made her change her mind.
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I can't tell whether Griffith was trying to get laid with Casca or trykng to convince her to not go with Guts by showing how weak he was. Either way that's not a very nice thing to do especially after being the aggravator events that happened in the first place.








Feb 22, 2018 3:48 AM

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Man, don't separate those two! Guts + Casca <3
Oct 15, 2020 12:56 AM

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Griffith manipulating the fuck out of Caska. It’s all a game to him.
Aug 3, 2021 4:03 PM

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afterglow of the right eye

griffith finally fed dis horny...
Nov 11, 2021 10:02 AM

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I agree with that...he was manipulating Casca for not going away with Guts :(
Mar 16, 2022 9:21 AM

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It's all messed up now... But we use these regrets from the past as a reminder not to make them again tomorrow. At least they can't mess it up twice.
Mar 24, 2022 8:17 PM

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Like something big is forming...
Apr 9, 2022 6:08 PM
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The dialogue in this volume so far has been top-notch. Even the artwork pairing with these words goes down smoothly. It might be my favorite row of chapters so far and there has been no fighting. Speaks to how the realization of everyone's choices and duties collide with reality and make their paths what they are.
Apr 25, 2022 9:38 AM

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Griffith at it trying to dominate again. And of course, its assault on Casca.




Aug 9, 2022 8:44 AM
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i'm curious how the go on with this insane struggles
Aug 19, 2024 4:49 AM
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Casca you fucking bitchhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Sep 17, 2024 2:23 PM

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Did anybody else notice that Casca was hearing heartbeats when she held her stomach?
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