Sound! Euphonium (light novel)
Eliito said: OMG, this was really entertaining to read lol. I didn't even watch H!E (yet?) so I was looking for some info before (yeah, spoilers). Just some things I found interesting, >On a ship being popular = having "a reason"; as in more canon material. Weirdly enough, most popular ships are the ones that lack of it compared with another ship (the other, if there's a rival ship). Of course there's lot of merch and official art but, official art =/= canon, either, those are for the sake of making money. They know what sells, they're not stupid. >Being childhood friends is a trope, but you know what trope is even more used? That person who comes from another place to ~change the MC life~ and the MC can't help but have a thing for them. So I can't believe this topic started with things as "there's a childhood friend!", "where this leave him!". Even when they ended up using it, I can't believe is everything you need to ship them, but then calling people into seeing too much. >Comparing what happened in another animes, with other couples to validate or sink ships is kinda silly. That's why even me saying what I said above doesn't mean that it's the case with this anime (the second being confirmed, and they indeed going for the childhood friend) >I find incredible that the ones more fired up in this topic are the ones shipping the canon het ship lol. Because hey, you have canon in your favor, right? Be happy, and let other like whatever they like! is2g, some of you seems as if you can't sleep because of "those yuris fen". You know that romance vary from person to person? Call it gaybaiting, whatever, if the ones in charge STILL make something with romantic vibes, there is romantic vibes, period (Oh btw, saying that an scene changes when you change the set up, DUH. If you change something of it, of course it would be different?? The thing is that the scene as it is IS how it is. Mainly if you're a canon snob, then there shouldn't be place for imagining other set up). So what's so good about laughing at them for couldn't help but finding it appealing? (and don't say you are not, you're even taking too seriously some stupid memes made by shippers to have some fun between them, people!) At least I've seen them giving their reason why they like the ship, but I can't say the same for the ones who ship the het. So except for just being canon in the novel and you being soo anti-yuri, you didn't say what's what you like about your ship (like if that means IS good, anyways? How many actual (canon) romance couples from tv/book/manga/anime are terrible?). >Also, maybe these shippers are gay themselves, so they're looking for representation, if you laugh at that, you are actually sad. If you're so into a ship just because of shipping matters, imagine them that maybe have personal reasons. And thinking people only like them for being "pretty" (as if the dudes are not attractive too?) is so weird. Then you can't ship most anime charas, het, bl, gl, because they're usually good looking. It's weird because is like you are trying to even debunk the reason they have for liking them???? Then I could say the reason fanboys ship het is because they put themselves in the dude's place, right? A dude that apparently you don't even find that good looking, getting the girl! >What's wrong with Santolaguna and his multiple accounts and personality? (I mean, he writes as if he uses google translate, mixing spanish and portuguese in some parts, but then you have him being like "If you actually cared about the story, you wouldn't mind the spoilers, just like people in all these aforementioned threads don't care about spoilers, you wouldn't cry about "novelfags". But since you don't give a fuck about Euphonium story and only care about your retarded shipperfaggotry, then the spoilers that shit all over your "speculah" are obviously going to upset you." who is this dude? lmao) Just to quoting some non related things: Sorry, but this topic is gold, I couldn't help myself. Feel free, your post is very well appreciated :) and what you're saying is absolutely right and you've pretty much broken down the whole thing xD |
SolitaryDarknessJun 10, 2015 10:28 AM
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| Okay I might be a Shuichi x Kumiko supporter, but I really like Kumiko x Reina as well. It's sad to see that some people on the yuri side (not as much here, but mostly on tumblr, and esp. on facebook) are being disrespectful towards the original novelist. Like why would you want them to go original route, when they should be following the original source? Please remember that it's thank to the writer that you are getting this story. If the writer didn't think up the character then they wouldn't even exist today. Besides, if it was your story, then you wouldn't want it to be adapted badly now, would you? If we are getting extra shojo ai then let's be thankful, and have a feast. But no, some people act immature and go super-yuri mode, claiming that Kumiko and Reina are in love with each other (when they are attracted to other, more because they can understand very well, both being different from the people around them) and that KyoAni is going to act the rule of a butcher if they keep these two lovebirds apart, apparently. Also claiming that Shuichi x Kumiko is forced/lacks chemistry just because your pairing isn't going to become canon is immature as well. Seriously, people just change the definition of chemistry according to their needs... I mean, sure, ship your pairing all you want but please don't say that the other is forced or lacks chemistry just because it goes against the way of your pairing. Same goes for some of the Shuichi x Kumiko shippers, they can go a bit too far protecting their ship. I'll just say that Shuichi x Kumiko is implied from the start too, just on a lesser extent. It's as much of a beautiful ship Kumiko/Reina is. Both ships are great. One is on its way to canon, and other doesn't need to because hey, they are already soulmates; it's more than enough. So, let's just enjoy the show, shall we? Anyways, I really love this thread, I am rofl right now. So many interesting posts.. The yuri shippers are pretty chill too, so yup it's good. |
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| ^It kinda does lack chemistry in the anime, tbh, because the anime has spend so much time on Reina and Kumiko -guy on the previous page had to go to the novel to find some development between them-, so unless Epho is going to be like 50 episodes long, they should speed it up. But, yeah, being disrespectful for a ship that had no chances of happening is pretty dumb. They should be watching Hanayamata or Girlfriend (Beta) if they want the subtext and no guys. |
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 obviously means Reina is gonna dump Taki for Kumiko. That symbolism, man. Yuri lives! On a completely unrelated note,  the dream lives on! But to make ^that kinda related, I really don't understand the whole "original ending would be disrespectful to the author" thing. Yeah, she wrote a story and we wouldn't have the characters without her or whatever but I don't see how it matters. If the author wrote something and some of the fans don't like it, then they're free to wish for something else to happen, right? If the author wrote something and the people doing the adaptation find something that may work better or just as well, how is it disrespectful to bring it up for discussion or something? Obviously the original creator is gonna have the last word but calling it disrespectful just because some people have their own vision of what they would like in the story is kinda ridiculous. And honestly, why would you people get to decide what counts as disrespectful to the author? Stuff like Orange Is the New Black clearly shows that some people aren't dead set on their canon. It may not be an anime but it was the first thing that sprung to mind and still has pretty much the same relationships between original creator and people doing the adaption going on. And it's not like there aren't some manga/anime/LNs that completely differ from each other in some point or another. Well, I hope I didn't come across as too strong, I just genuinly don't understand this "blindly following the canon" attitude. Not even Citrus fans were so faithful to their canon when I told them that the main pairing is not the way to go. And Citrus fans are the worst. Anyways, here's a Marceline x Bubblegum picture as an apology in case I did come across too strong. Cause I know how much you people care about Marceline x Bubblegum. |
OriginalGengarJun 11, 2015 8:28 AM
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| Yeah, that's not what I wrote. I just don't understand why people care about what's canon so much. |
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| You have to admit. The Yuri shippers are strong in their beliefs. And know how to parody footage to voice their desires. https://d.maxfile.ro/joaarcocqx.webm |
| It seems that the only thing most people care about this series is who will end up with who, which frankly is a shame. Will our heroine follow the “forbidden” Shoujo-Ai path with Reina? Or will she come to realize her love for Shuichi, her childhood friend? According to the source material it should be Shuichi. According to the anime it should be Reina. Honestly, if Kumiko ends up with someone (which I doubt it’s going to happen in the anime), then it should be with the one the author of the novel had in mind from the very beginning. Why? Because it’s his novel and his characters, and doing otherwise would be disrespectful to his work (as some one mentioned already). However, if he agrees it’s ok, well that’s another story. |
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Cirris said: You have to admit. The Yuri shippers are strong in their beliefs. And know how to parody footage to voice their desires. https://d.maxfile.ro/joaarcocqx.webm Wow just wow ... I have to admit that this was pretty funny and awesome. Shippers are amazing |
| If the anime would deviate from the novel, Reina said she'd never loved Taki Sensei. |
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kdr said: petrukio666 said: Did you seriously just copypaste someone's post on /a/ and try to throw "MAL" in there? lolIt's not a meme, it's the undeniable truth. It's how ML has always worked. If there's an anime that isn't an anime original, people are going to talk about source material, no matter how obscure. For mainstream as hell shit like Fate/Stay Night, to relatively more obscure stuff like Log Horizon LNs (long before season 2 aired people talked about Shiroe's female vampire alt as an example), etc. Yet never has this been a problem. You don't see people cry about spoilers in Fate threads, or Yahari threads, or JoJo threads, or DxD threads, or Sidonia threads, or Ore Monogatari threads, or Yamada and seven witches threads, or Owari no Seraph threads, or Danmachi threads, or literally any other case you could possibly think of. And if in any of those threads someone does dare cry about being spoiled (which happens once every hundred threads), everyone dogpiles on that person, makes fun of him for being a filthy secondary/animeonly, etc. It's only in these threads that you have a large number of people who complain about source material discussion, and the sole reason why you complain about source material is because it goes against your "speculah". If you actually cared about the story, you wouldn't mind the spoilers, just like people in all these aforementioned threads don't care about spoilers, you wouldn't cry about "novelfags". But since you don't give a fuck about Euphonium story and only care about your retarded shipperfaggotry, then the spoilers that shit all over your "speculah" are obviously going to upset you. You're always welcome to go back to whatever anime community you came from where people refrain from posting spoilers, because ML certainly isn't one, and hasn't been in many, many years. You know, I did feel that the english was a lot better in this post xD now I know why xD |
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YumeNoMonogatari said: Hey! Reina x Kumiko shippers! +2 Best GIF ever gnodab said: From 'I hope they deviate from the source material' to 'I hope we get an anime original ending' I applaud your tenacity. + 1 Kyoani is leading in the "Baiting Wars". They know what bait to use for the specific type of fish. |
#CHEXIT |
| Judging from the next episode's PV, this is turning from harmless yuri bait to "these characters' actions are in conflict with the rest of the series' narrative and I'm expecting Kyoani to address their explicit homosexual attraction, otherwise I'll consider it a flaw" |
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| Fuck you This ship ain't stopping for nothing  |
VGFACTCHECKER said: Fuck you This ship ain't stopping for nothing KyoAni is currently trolling us so hard ...they know |
VGFACTCHECKER said: Fuck you This ship ain't stopping for nothing I don't know what to say, KyoAni wat is this |
| The world shall know the truth soon. |
| Reina needs to pull the harem end on us. |
| Seriously, from ep 11 .... this is seriously and furiously a shojo-ai .! Come on there's so many subtext and love stare. The yuri feels are HERE and not only from Kousaka x Kumiko but also from the other girl |
Tsubakine said: VGFACTCHECKER said: Fuck you This ship ain't stopping for nothing KyoAni is currently trolling us so hard ...they know And after all these scenes Kumiko will end up with his childfriend and Kousaka will wait for teacher :) But... damn it, KyoAni must have fun :) |
VGFACTCHECKER said: After ep 11, it's gonna happen. Rejoice!!! Right on schedule..... |
RPSB9Jun 16, 2015 2:03 PM
#CHEXIT |
| As the people who don't watch anime say...it's the rabid fans of anime that ruin it. |
| What if the Hokey Pokey is what it is all about? |
zero-r said: It seems that the only thing most people care about this series is who will end up with who, which frankly is a shame. Honestly, if Kumiko ends up with someone (which I doubt it’s going to happen in the anime), then it should be with the one the author of the novel had in mind from the very beginning. Why? Because it’s his novel and his characters, and doing otherwise would be disrespectful to his work (as some one mentioned already). ^This. |
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AliceInOtakuland said: zero-r said: It seems that the only thing most people care about this series is who will end up with who, which frankly is a shame. Honestly, if Kumiko ends up with someone (which I doubt it’s going to happen in the anime), then it should be with the one the author of the novel had in mind from the very beginning. Why? Because it’s his novel and his characters, and doing otherwise would be disrespectful to his work (as some one mentioned already). ^This. Totally agreed |
#CHEXIT |
Fangz said: Kyoani want to make the very best show they can, that is all. That means the numerous changes they have made to the story needs to have a point. You do realize that the author has the final say in stuff like this? Do you understand the meaning of intellectual property or copyright? Not trying to be judgmental but the way you started your comment, it would make more sense to assume that you don't. Edit: coming from someone who watches fansubs. ;) |
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Fangz said: Kyoani want to make the very best show they can, that is all. True and they're doing it well and brutally, it's called baiting. Fangz said: That means the numerous changes they have made to the story needs to have a point. What changes? As far as I heard, they didn't changed anything. All they did maybe, was exaggerate the scenes. |
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| Uhm, an excerpt from the 2nd novel, about Ribbon-chan being like "My kokoro can't handle all this perfection" (?) [spoiler] http://bittershamrocktea.tumblr.com/post/121836101240/heres-a-little-excerpt-from-the-second-novel-id  |
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| bittershamrocktea isn't the only one who can't think straight, apparently. |
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| well for me i guess the only thing that can make me remember hibike in the future is through the shipping wars and not the music or the story line |
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gnodab said: Well we have Kyoani to thank for. Their excessive and obnoxious yuri baiting is the result why people are flinging shit at each other instead of focusing on the story. I just laugh at the people who call this an 'improvement' because it panders to them. LOL. Can't wait for ending and the rage. |
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Fangz said: - (Ep 11) Changed what happened in the past from Kaori et al forcing out the people who wanted to try hard, thus making Kaori and Haruka sympathetic. Added all the scenes between Kaori and Haruka. Brought in second audition scene from a later book, and make it a popular vote. Inserted scene of Reina being depressed by Yuuko's words and seeking reassurance from Kumiko. Changed Shuichi getting better at trombone/Kumiko getting worse to Kumiko getting better/Shuichi getting worse. Good move KyoAni I'd like to know the context for this part though, "Kaori et al forcing out the people who wanted to try hard". Is it because the serious members were creating trouble or were they trying to make Kaori and gang look like shallow characters or am I horribly misinterpreting this? |
MelonMilkJun 19, 2015 3:27 AM
Fangz said: From what I gathered the third years are kinda the bad guys at this point in the books. It sets up an eventual plot point where the people who wanted to try hard return to the band. They eventually become nicer. They clearly changed it so that we could have this Kaori-Reina conflict with Kaori being sympathetic and have Kumiko exhibit her, ahem, attachment to Reina by going against everyone else. Thanks for sharing. I definitely like this anime version of the Kaori-Reina conflict more, both seem like more 'human' characters now and Reina actually shows some positive development. |
Cirris said: You have to admit. The Yuri shippers are strong in their beliefs. And know how to parody footage to voice their desires. https://d.maxfile.ro/joaarcocqx.webm I'm laughing so much, this is the best thing I've ever seen. |
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myd10oz said: Cirris said: You have to admit. The Yuri shippers are strong in their beliefs. And know how to parody footage to voice their desires. https://d.maxfile.ro/joaarcocqx.webm I'm laughing so much, this is the best thing I've ever seen. Such a sad truth, ddamn kyoani. |
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NicoTines said: myd10oz said: I'm laughing so much, this is the best thing I've ever seen. Such a sad truth, ddamn kyoani. They're desperate. |
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| ^ It's bait because Reina loves teacher and because Kumiko |
Sonotoki said: ^ It's bait because Reina loves teacher and because Kumiko People only see what they wanted to see. |
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