| Chill out bruh, eat a snickers or something. Why does it bother you so much that people say that? I, for my part, never wondered if they are many or few strong or brave female characters, the fact that a female lead is strong or badass doesn't make it good or even likeable sometimes. Let them say whatever they want, maybe they haven't watched 750 anime like you have and they have only watched storng female characters a few times, just chill out and enjoy chinese cartoons like everybody else does here. |
Monad said: Firelily said: Relatable strong female characters are somewhat rare in anime, the ones that don't just exist as fan service and such and never develop any real character. Especially in the big 3 shonen anime (Naruto, Bleach, One Piece), which to be fair are the first anime most people come across, seem to be very against a main female character being strong. For example Robin from One Piece was a strong bad ass character until she joined crew and then suddenly she became a weak character needing to be saved. It seems that Japanese men just find strong females very threatening. One of the reasons I love Fairy Tail is because its breaks the mould, most the main female characters are strong and amazing, even Lucy who started off weak became a very strong mage. And ofc there are many many other anime with strong and amazing female characters, I know because they're the ones that always become my favourites. Though it is very disappointing when you have to sit through what would be an otherwise good anime and all the female characters are either weak kittens or just have no real personality. Or worse still take a strong female and suddenly make her weak. Of course it's possible I just notice the weak characters more because they annoy me so much *shrugs* Facepalm. Seriously this thread. Is like i never gave a big huge fucking list. Yeah lets just focus on three shounen. And wtf does relatable mean? How many male characters are relatable? Every fucking poster bring a tone of stupid shit that are off topic. Are they relatable, are they role-models, are the prude enough to much my prudish views, to they have development grow, and whatever the fuck else they can think! WTF are all this shit?! I made the damn topic talking about why some people post with surprise when they see a female doing something courageous or fighting when they are all over anime. That was all. And then i get a tone of analysis about every other damn bullshit they can think off. You seem like a very angry person. And I assumed you made this thread for people to share their opinions not just blindly agree with you. Relatable means that actual real life females are actually able to relate to these characters. And I think that a lot of male anime characters are relatable btw, I'm a woman and even I think this. I did see your "big huge fucking list" btw. There were some really nice anime in there, well done. Though I also noticed you put Freezing and HOTD in there, not really good examples as those ladies were really just fanservice. But Black Lagoon, Fairy Tail, Shakugan no Shana, Seirei no Moribito and some others you mentioned depict really strong amazing female characters, however these anime are not the norm imo. |
LunaFeyrheaMar 29, 2015 8:46 AM
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Firelily said: Relatable strong female characters are somewhat rare in anime, the ones that don't just exist as fan service and such and never develop any real character. Especially in the big 3 shonen anime (Naruto, Bleach, One Piece), which to be fair are the first anime most people come across, seem to be very against a main female character being strong. For example Robin from One Piece was a strong bad ass character until she joined crew and then suddenly she became a weak character needing to be saved. It seems that Japanese men just find strong females very threatening. One of the reasons I love Fairy Tail is because its breaks the mould, most the main female characters are strong and amazing, even Lucy who started off weak became a very strong mage. And ofc there are many many other anime with strong and amazing female characters, I know because they're the ones that always become my favourites. Though it is very disappointing when you have to sit through what would be an otherwise good anime and all the female characters are either weak kittens or just have no real personality. Or worse still take a strong female and suddenly make her weak. Of course it's possible I just notice the weak characters more because they annoy me so much *shrugs* Naruto doesn't have any female characters for the sake of fanservice, actually from the fourth shounen series you mentioned, it's by far has the lowest amount of sexual fanservice. I fail to see how relatability is even relevant. I disagree heavily, Naruto have many strong brave female characters, Sakura, Tsunade, Konan, Chiyo, Hinata,and the best of them all Kushina, who was the biggest embodiment of the sacrifice and love in the series (her and Itachi are the biggest), who also happens to be my favorite character in the series overall, I think she is bravest character in the series. And most of them, are multidimensional and have a personality, you may have not like them, but they did develop. To not just post empty statements like most people here, I will expand on it. Hinata. Was a timid and weak willed person, who never spoked her mind. Naruto was the biggest inspiration in her life, for reasons, repeated many times. It was seeing Naruto's resolve, that made her do something she would have never done before, and it's face Neji, a person that she feared deeply, and spook her mind, and fought even though she knew, she wouldn't beat him, but kept going and pushed herself, because of her resolve. That's character development. Same thing happened again, when she stood for Naruto and tried to save him from Pain, risking her life in the process, and declaring her love for Naruto. One of the most bravest moments I've seen in general, not just in the female characters. Tsunade. She experienced many losses before, due to the war. The emotional scarred her, to the point where she had hemophobia, (fear of blood). She was apathetic, about being a Hokage, but changed her mind, to protect those she cared about, because Naruto reminded her of her brother, and why she should protect her village. That's character development. She developed again, upon meeting Dan in the war arc. Sakura. Controversial character, but her development, whether you hate her or not, is factual. Sakura's personality is that of a young girl that lacks self confidence when she was a child, due to her insecurity regarding her big forehead. When she later meets Ino, which helps her gain self confidence. At the start of the series, Sakura was self centered and a selfish person who dismissed others who aren't good enough like Naruto and despite being intelligent and a great ninja student, cared more for love and her looks, which made her declare herself a rival of Ino because she likes Sasuke too. That's characterization right there, and that was just in the very early episodes before the second arc. Sakura's prime characterization was that she is self centered, irritating, selfish and inconsiderate of those she doesn't like. In the second arc, Chunnin exam, she started having a lot more focus. Showing that she is not useless, and she has more motives than just being with Sasuke. It was in that arc, that it was shown that she didn't just have a simple crush on Sasuke. Evident by how she praised Naruto for his courage and called Sasuke a coward, despite liking one and disliking the other, that shows that she care enough about Sasuke to tell him the truth, meaning that it's not a simple crush. She helped take care of both Naruto and Sasuke who were both completely helpless. She had her first character development when she cut down her hair, to protect them. She realizes that she's always been a background character to these two and realizes that she must be stronger to protect her friends and aims to be better by being more like them, which sets her motives to be something more than just Sasuke like I said above. Here is where she realizes her mistakes and faults, and takes someone with a big character to do it. Her decision to become more independent. Her cutting her hair is important here, because it shows quite clearly that looks and other shallow things are no longer her priority and that she matured to understand that there are other important things, and her desire to improve and grow. That was significant character development and fleshing out, that build her characterization even more. She has goals and ambitions. Then there are other instances of fleshing out and building of her from that point till the timeskip. That adds more dimension to her, making her a round character, and build up of her relationship between Naruto and Sasuke. Now we get to the time skip and the Kazekage arc. Which Sakura was without a doubt the star of. Where she gets great characterization and development. Emphasized on the different in her relationship between herself and Naruto, which she shows her regrets and how she deeply cares for Naruto (also expanded on Sauske and Sai arc, where she defended him all the time, from Sai's words, without hesitation). While being vital to the Kazekage arc, and her medical jutsu. All the more build up, until this point where she again, stand side by side with Naruto and Sasuke. Showing her hardwork paying off, and unleashing her strength, even praised by the first hokage as testament. Sakura is a realistic character and a flawed human being, always wanting to get better and improve, yet falling short. I find that relateable. She fails and has her doubts and uncertainties. ''Sakura's creation is a result of Kishimoto's desire to make a somewhat irritating character who was well-intentioned.[3] Despite these elements, Kishimoto is fond of Sakura, as he feels that many of her personality traits are common among all people, thus giving her a sense of real humanity.[37] When asked in an interview if there is something about Sakura's background that was never revealed, Kishimoto explains that he has never thought of Sakura as she is a "normal girl.'' A point of Sakura's character that, is that she is supposed to be the most realistic character, with more typical human flaws than other characters. She is supposed to be ''normal''. And it shows in the series, she is the only character that doesn't have a special heritage or a special ability relating to her clan or her parents like Naruto (Uzumakis), Sasuke (Uchiha), Shikamaru (Naru), Ino (Yamazakie), etc. She had to work hard, and make Tsundae be her mentor. The double standards when it comes, to judging female characters being 'strong' or not, that I noticed, is that if they have weak moments, then everything 'strong' they did prior or after is negated for some reason, but the same doesn't happen to the male characters, who have plenty of weak and vulnerable moments, but they get overlooked, because they have more 'cool' and 'strong' moments. I disagree, that FT, has great female cast. Because outside of Erza, I don't think other characters, have good characterization, and depth. Characters like Kana, are worst than any female from the big 3 imo. And Juvia, who I like, but the truth is that she was turned into a Gray groupies, with serious moments being few and far between. There really isn't an instance where, Fairy Tail breaks the mold in literally anything imo. |
tsudecimoMar 29, 2015 8:53 AM
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| @tsudecimo. Well you wrote a nice essay about Naruto anyway. I've only just seen the first series of Naruto after a long time of refusing to watch it because after giving the first 12 eps a go I decided I couldn't stand it. But I recently gave it another go and it does get better I admit. Oh and I never said Naruto had fanservice btw. In fact I wasn't really thinking of the main 3 at all when I mentioned that, sorry for any confusion. Though Sakura whose praises you keep singing I do not find relatable at all. If she is supposed to be a normal girl then can only think that the author doesn't know many girls. What annoyed me the most about Sakura was that she was a supposed ninja who couldn't even fight, even a "normal girl" with ninja training should be able to do SOMETHING. I also thought she was a spiteful petty fangirl bitch, I actually DID try to like her but the more I watch the less I could. And yes it is great that she's getting medical ninja training and is going to be more capable blah blah blah, but the fact is they originally made her a character that existed just to be saved by Naruto and Sasuke and that is the kind of character I hate most. Hell they couldn't even make her likeable, she wouldn't be half as bad if she was just a nice girl like Hinata. Most normal girls have both good and bad qualities, not just bad. As for Fairy Tail I don't think it's just Erza that is strong. But you're right even Fairy Tail bothers me sometimes. Like how strong Mira Jane is but how all she seems to do most of the time is serve drinks and model swim suites, I realise she couldn't fight for a long time because of the Lisanna thing but even once thats resolved she still doesn't fight much. Kana as you mentioned could be stronger and I so wish she would already as I love her. Love Juvia too but her Gray obsession is starting to get annoying, its actually detracting her in battles now which is not good (poor girl). Lucy and Wendy who both started off weak have both become quite strong though which is great. And also tbh just the fact that Erza exists in an anime like FT is an amazing thing. How they actually have a strong relatable female character with depth in the main team. Not all anime can claim that. |
LunaFeyrheaMar 29, 2015 9:29 AM
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Firelily said: Though Sakura whose praises you keep singing I do not find relatable at all. If she is supposed to be a normal girl then can only think that the author doesn't know many girls. What annoyed me the most about Sakura was that she was a supposed ninja who couldn't even fight, even a "normal girl" with ninja training should be able to do SOMETHING. I also thought she was a spiteful petty fangirl bitch, I actually DID try to like her but the more I watch the less I could. And yes it is great that she's getting medical ninja training and is going to be more capable blah blah blah, but the fact is they originally made her a character that existed just to be saved by Naruto and Sasuke and that is the kind of character I hate most. Hell they couldn't even make her likeable, she wouldn't be half as bad if she was just a nice girl like Hinata. Most normal girls have both good and bad qualities, not just bad. Relatblitiy like I said previously is not relevant, I don't relate to any male character in Naruto, doesn't change anything to me, how I think of them. I don't really get the 'gender relatebility' thing in general, I related a bit in Sakura, and that's why I mentioned it, so I meant in general, not gender exclusive, hence why I used a 'flawed human being' not a 'flaw girl'. You missed the point in that author quote. In that context, he meant, that she a normal background like all people, she didn't have her family killed like Sasuke, nor was an orphan like Naruto. There are many ninja in the series, whose poistion and purpose in mission is not fighting, like intel corps, but that's not really relevant, because she fought protecting Sasuke and Naruto in the forest of death, she fought against Ino, and had a major central fight after the timeskip. She becomes like Tsunade (insane strength + medical jutsu) since you didn't watch Shippuden. I feel like you skimmed through my post. I specifically talked, how Sakura changed from being a shallow person, and specifically how and when. Reposting for clearance: tsudecimo said: In the second arc, Chunnin exam, she started having a lot more focus. Showing that she is not useless, and she has more motives than just being with Sasuke. It was in that arc, that it was shown that she didn't just have a simple crush on Sasuke. Evident by how she praised Naruto for his courage and called Sasuke a coward, despite liking one and disliking the other, that shows that she care enough about Sasuke to tell him the truth, meaning that it's not a simple crush. She helped take care of both Naruto and Sasuke who were both completely helpless. She had her first character development when she cut down her hair, to protect them. She realizes that she's always been a background character to these two and realizes that she must be stronger to protect her friends and aims to be better by being more like them, which sets her motives to be something more than just Sasuke like I said above. Here is where she realizes her mistakes and faults, and takes someone with a big character to do it. Her decision to become more independent. Her cutting her hair is important here, because it shows quite clearly that looks and other shallow things are no longer her priority and that she matured to understand that there are other important things, and her desire to improve and grow. Maybe visuals are better: Wrong. They did not, in any way, created her for the sake of being saved. There is only one time specifically where she was hostage or how people like to call it, a 'damsel in distress'. Her unlikablity was there, for it to change, which it did, starting from the second arc, and forward. By Shippuden, she becomes very likeable imo. I certainly like her more than Hinata if anything. Most of your basis for hating her, are based on a first impression and nothing else imo. Wendy who both started off weak have both become quite strong though which is great. And also tbh just the fact that Erza exists in an anime like FT is an amazing thing. How they actually have a strong relatable female character with depth in the main team. Not all anime can claim that. Oh right, forgot about Wendy. Second best female character after Erza imo. Many anime can claim that, and many did it. When I think about Erza, I think she is the best character in FT, period, and it certainly doesn't have anything to do with her being a female character or not. |
tsudecimoMar 29, 2015 10:09 AM
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King_of_Devils said: Working_Designs said: Well, please explain how Gall Force is "Dumbfounding," because Rabby IS charismatic. You'd have to be fucking blind not to see that. Of course, I could just assume you're lying to me when you say that you've seen Gall Force, seeing how none of the Gall Force franchise is on your list. It's not the show that I said was dumbfounding, but rather that it was the first thing you chose to represent you, considering it's pretty much just the 80s (i think) incrnation of the "let's shoehorn chicks into a typically male dominated or mixed gender setting and making it all-female cuz reasons" tropes, though I remember it being somewhat enjoyable (for both the right and wrong reasons) it's barely the 80s (I think) OVA I'd pick as some "shining example of the good ol' days"especially in the character deparment, considering they ranged mostly from laughable to forgettable to "Meh" Rabby had her moments towards the later parts, but I remember finding her annoying at first and mostly, aside from LOLworthy moments like the toilet scene,pretty forgettable. The other character you mentioned Luf(f)y, I remember liking more for her foul mouth, and she died about 20 minutes after her introduction, no anything I'd call charismatic. And I really mostly remember her for the "walking around naked" scene Also, Iwatched that OVA/Movie Way back when, and without you mentioning it, I basically forgot it's existant, hence why it's not on my list (I'll probably add it the next time I update) Actually, Lufy is only thought to be dead in Gall Force: Eternal Story, but she survives, and is the main protagonist in Gall Force 2: Destruction. Also, I should add that I'm a big old school Anime fan, and I prefer Anime from the 80s over todays Anime. |
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| While there are many strong female characters, most animes are usually full of damsels in distress or annoying tsundere schoolgirls or lolis. And since there are more animes with these overused cliches, the more likely that people will see those kind of animes (...and then they say that badass females are rare) |
Inferno_Cop said: Every story can be simplified to suit your points, seriously. Then again considering you can't even differentiate Italian government to Japanese in Gunslinger girl, I don't think you worth any argument. Oh man, I really messed up huh. It's like if I said Kirito had two black swords and someone nerdrages that one was green and another was gold. Ohhh damnnnn. I'm sorrrrrryyyyyy.  |
| How do people get to 2000 hours when I'm already this bored? |
| People are stupid that's why, men are more commonly the strong lead or whatever but women get some love in anime more often than in any other medium of entertainment. |
| @tsudecimo I wish you would stop talking at length about naturo. And yes honestly I did only skim some of it because I consider it spoilers and I do actually plan to watch Shippuden. I don't even know why you are even concentrating so hard on Naruto anyway as this discussion is about anime in general not just Naruto. But even if we take Naruto as an example, why can't female fans have a kick ass female ninja character to look up to? Just like the male fans have in Naruto himself? I mean you'd think that'd be the reason of putting a girl chracter in the team with the two boys. To tailor to the female audience to make girls feel included, that the show was for them too, not just the boys, but no, ofc they didn't do that why would they? And yes FT could also be better like I said, but at least they did do exactly that. There's not just Erza or she is the best examlple, as you stated she is probably the best character in the show, regardless of sex. But they also have Lucy and Wendy who may not be quite as kick ass are still relatable and manage to hold their own pretty well when it comes to battles. King_Oriax said: People are stupid that's why, men are more commonly the strong lead or whatever but women get some love in anime more often than in any other medium of entertainment. Maybe women want more than "some love" maybe they want to be represented as much as men. It's also not just about who is the main character, it's about how the supporting female characters are portrayed btw. And I have to disagree, atleast in the western shows I watch (idk what you watch) women are represented pretty damn fairly. It's a different story in movies though. |
LunaFeyrheaMar 30, 2015 3:58 AM
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Working_Designs said: Actually, Lufy is only thought to be dead in Gall Force: Eternal Story, but she survives, and is the main protagonist in Gall Force 2: Destruction. Also, I should add that I'm a big old school Anime fan, and I prefer Anime from the 80s over todays Anime. There are more of 'em?? As far as you liking 80s stuff, with the frequency with which you remind people I'm pretty sure everyone knows that. And besides, I prefer the 80s stuff/style more myself |
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| Fairy Tail has lots of them |
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Firelily said: @tsudecimo I wish you would stop talking at length about naturo. And yes honestly I did only skim some of it because I consider it spoilers and I do actually plan to watch Shippuden. I don't even know why you are even concentrating so hard on Naruto anyway as this discussion is about anime in general not just Naruto. I'm only specifically talking about female characters in Naruto, mostly Sakura. I didn't really talk about something else in Naruto. I'm concentrating on Naruto, because you partially brought it up on your initial post, and it's the one I'm familiar most with, to expand on it, with details to support my arguments. And most of what I said, wasn't spoiler for Shippuden. It was about the Forest of death, but you skimmed that as well, and never commented on yet, even though I bothered enough, to even present a manga page. This leads me to three conclusions. A/You didn't watch Naruto, beyond the first arc B/ You did watch it, but don't having anything to refute my points, regarding Hinata, Sakura and Tsunade. C/ You were overwhelmed by my ''essays'' and don't want to bother reading them properly, as you rather repeat your first impression of Sakura, as basis for the whole female cast, in 500+ long anime series. But even if we take Naruto as an example, why can't female fans have a kick ass female ninja character to look up to? Just like the male fans have in Naruto himself? I mean you'd think that'd be the reason of putting a girl chracter in the team with the two boys. To tailor to the female audience to make girls feel included, that the show was for them too, not just the boys, but no, ofc they didn't do that why would they? What... Why do you keep changing subjects, with arbitrary methods to gauge how good the female characters are? first it was relatablity, which isn't even relevant, now it's the female characters being role models? both are very flawed basis for judging female characters, and ironically are sexist in nature, because I don't see the same basis being applied for male characters. No, I don't really think the existence of the female cast is there, to appeal to a female audience, from what I know, most female fans of shounen manga, love them, because of male character interactions, this is especially apparent in Sports manga, because they usually have very low female characters. Female characters exist in the series, because it's normal, there is no logic in discriminating the female characters in Naruto. There are ''cool'' and ''badass'' female characters. Sakura, Tsunade, Konan, etc. You are not a representative for the female viewers,. It's very common to find female fans, with Sakura or/and Hinata on their favorite character list. The way you, others judge female characters, because of their gender, is the real sexism imho. And yes FT could also be better like I said, but at least they did do exactly that. There's not just Erza or she is the best examlple, as you stated she is probably the best character in the show, regardless of sex. But they also have Lucy and Wendy who may not be quite as kick ass are still relatable and manage to hold their own pretty well when it comes to battles. Agreed to disagree, because Lucy is the second worst character in the show for me. |
tsudecimoMar 30, 2015 9:07 AM
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Crimefridge said: Inferno_Cop said: Every story can be simplified to suit your points, seriously. Then again considering you can't even differentiate Italian government to Japanese in Gunslinger girl, I don't think you worth any argument. Oh man, I really messed up huh. It's like if I said Kirito had two black swords and someone nerdrages that one was green and another was gold. Ohhh damnnnn. I'm sorrrrrryyyyyy. Someone's a little desperate to try. |
| It all depends on the type of anime. If you're watching Peach Girl or something like that the closest thing you'll find to strength/bravery is Momo's strong will. Where if you watch anime like Fairy Tail or Naruto all the girls are kicking ass better than the boys could. |
| Kino = Best female. |
| I think it's because a lot of the more mainstream anime tend to have weaker females for some reason. A few examples. Sword Art Online - you have Asuka, who is such a badass in the second episode, turned into a damsel in distress because Kirito is Jesus-kun (not to mention basically every other female in the series has the same problem). Both female leads of Bleach and Naruto (Orihime and Sakura respectively, but especially Orihime) are fairly weak characters that don't do much to move along the plot. Orihime specifically becomes a damsel in distress for a good part of it. Although Death Note has a strong female in Naomi, she was only there for one episode, and the main female lead, Misa Amane, is basically just a pawn for Light's needs. She has no will of her own (other than to be Light's waifu), and would gladly give up her life if Light wished. I could go on and on, but that's redundant. There are obviously some exceptions, such as Steins;Gate. And I guess there is also this preconception that females have to be physically or mentally strong to be a strong character, which couldn't be more wrong. Chihiro from a tale of memories, Mashiro from Sakurasou, and even Isla from the currently airing Plastic Memories are good examples. |
furdlemygurdle said: I think it's because a lot of the more mainstream anime tend to have weaker females for some reason. A few examples. Sword Art Online - you have Asuka, who is such a badass in the second episode, turned into a damsel in distress because Kirito is Jesus-kun (not to mention basically every other female in the series has the same problem). Both female leads of Bleach and Naruto (Orihime and Sakura respectively, but especially Orihime) are fairly weak characters that don't do much to move along the plot. Orihime specifically becomes a damsel in distress for a good part of it. Although Death Note has a strong female in Naomi, she was only there for one episode, and the main female lead, Misa Amane, is basically just a pawn for Light's needs. She has no will of her own (other than to be Light's waifu), and would gladly give up her life if Light wished. I could go on and on, but that's redundant. There are obviously some exceptions, such as Steins;Gate. And I guess there is also this preconception that females have to be physically or mentally strong to be a strong character, which couldn't be more wrong. Chihiro from a tale of memories, Mashiro from Sakurasou, and even Isla from the currently airing Plastic Memories are good examples. Asuna* |
| Brave/strong females are definitely not rare. in fact, there are more brave female leads than there are males. Most male MCs these days are pathetic and their female counterpart are brave, strong, etc. But while just scrolling down, Psycho Pass having a brave female according to you caught my eye. Sorry, but I disagree there. Akamne Sunamorei was weak and at the end, her personality suddenly changed without any prior development. |
| They are not really that rare especially in the shows I am watching. Watch some shows targeted at girls like Precure for example and you will see. |
| Not everything on your list features the female as the MC. Code Geass, for example. There are some female badasses in that show, but isn't Lelouch the MC? I think that the reason why people get so excited over Yona is because she's the MC and her character is one of great importance. She's a princess, and the true heir to her country. She actually goes through a coming-of-age process where she transforms from spoiled and weak to strong and brave. Typically these sort of roles are given to males, which is what makes Yona so fun. |
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| They obviously watched the wrong shows lol. |
Malicre said: Working_Designs said: It's not that strong/brave females are rare in modern Anime, but they are not charismatic, like the strong/brave girls in 70s/80s/early 90s Anime. Are you serious? Teresa from claymore would shit all over any female from the 80/90s anime, hell she is prob hands down the most badass and charismatic female character ever. I wouldn't go that far, but Teresa wa a badass. |
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Monad said: So i've been watching this "Akatsuki no Yona" anime. It's about a princess spoiled girl that gets some lesson about hard life and becomes stronger in the process etc(no that she shakes the earth or anything, many times she's still a crybaby but you get the point). Anyway, while watching this series and in the late episode where the little princes started showing some guts, i saw lots of comments in the discussions like this: etc. You got the point. This is not the only series that such comments are made. This was just a current example. Many times you see such comments. [...] So really what gives? Why are people saying such things? Why is there such a perception by some? I think these comments are probably coming from newbies who just haven’t seen a lot yet. And you’re right that there are plenty of animes with really strong, female MCs. I’d never put Yona in that category though. She’s a pretty average shoujo protagonist. But for someone who hasn’t watched a lot of animes, she might seem stronger in comparison to other shows. I’d like to add: Faye Valentine - Cowboy Bebop Michiko - Michiko to Hatchin (<- all of the female characters in this one are amazing, actually!) |
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