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Jul 9, 2009 7:46 AM
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Hmm ok, so now the issue is a bit more real.

Got loli? might want to think about that.
You might tomorrow find you've also got criminal charges too.

Not that I trust Sankaku Complex any more than Fox News.

But hey, go ahead, say it doesn't matter to you :) but, your fate doesn't matter to me either :)

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In a first for Japan, two men have been arrested for posting loli links to a forum, and the two youths running the board were also arrested for failing to remove the links.

The two men, a 37-year-old pachinko parlour employee and a 37-year-old restaurant worker, were arrested on charges of public distribution of obscene material, after posting links to overseas websites carrying videos featuring under-18s, which would be illegal to distribute in Japan. They were each fined ¥500,000.

An additional arrest of a 41-year-old Korean man is also reported.

Additionally, the two students (19) who ran the site were also arrested, with police alleging that they knew of the links but did nothing to remove them; they admit the charges but say they thought they did nothing wrong.

To further complicate the matter, the forum itself was hosted in the USA, and Japanese authorities had the host provide details of the pair, and close the site.

It is not clear what the illegal content consisted of, or where it was hosted; such sites tend only to be established in countries with very liberal laws regarding underage pornography, such as Russia, but there are suspicions that the videos were merely uploaded to free file hosting services.

Japanese legal experts have raised concerns over the implications of the action, with Internet users now potentially facing charges for merely mentioning links to sites carrying illegal content (which in Japan could include uncensored pornography), or being the victim of redirects; site administrators too face dangers in allowing user submitted links…

Via Yomiuri.

The wave of recent unusual arrests based on new interpretations of the existing law is being greeted with suspicion by some, particularly with the Diet still discussing such matters…
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Jul 9, 2009 7:49 AM
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well i sort of grew out of loli stuff a while back but i still think that it should be ok its sad people arent being allowed to express there likes openly again.
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Jul 9, 2009 7:51 AM
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This isn't about lolis, it's about paedophilia rings, which is certainly and unquestionably illegal in the entire civilised world. Posting links to videos is still distribution, even if they don't host the videos themselves.

Also uncensored porn in Japan is a big no-no regardless of the age of participants. Stupid, sure, but it's still something people can be charged for.
Jul 9, 2009 7:54 AM
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What troubles me is that i don't see any reference if we are talking about real girls or anime girls.
If they were real girls then we have nothing to be afraid of and this Sankaku site is just bullshitting us since laws for the real thing exist almost anywhere for a long time anyway.

Now if it's for anime girls then we have a problem and i better start looking at my pic collection because i might get arrested for some pics.
Jul 9, 2009 7:57 AM
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Monad said:
Now if it's for anime girls then we have a problem and i better start looking at my pic collection because i might get arrested for some pics.


You already can in some parts of the world.
Jul 9, 2009 8:05 AM
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good time to be a homo
Jul 9, 2009 8:33 AM
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Kagura_Mai_Waifu said:
good time to be a homo


this is actually a good point. what about shota-con? people seem to overlook shota for mainly lolis. are we saying its ok for little boys pics to be distributed but not little girls pics? isnt this sexist to the MAX.

shota-con is just as bad if not worse as lolicon so if you are homo and you have shota will you get arrested? this hasnt been clarified yet in all the discussion weve had. or laws for that matter.
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Jul 9, 2009 8:46 AM
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I think it's gonna be the same.

Jul 9, 2009 9:53 AM
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It's not about the anime lolis, it's about real child porn and I believe its possession and distribution is illegal in every country of the world.
So, basically, serves them right.
Also, I lol'd at the "liberal laws regarding underage pornography in Russia". Here, those guys wouldn't get out with just a fine, they would've gone to prison for at least 2 years.
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seishi-sama said:
It's not about the anime lolis, it's about real child porn and I believe its possession and distribution is illegal in every country of the world.
So, basically, serves them right.
Also, I lol'd at the "liberal laws regarding underage pornography in Russia". Here, those guys wouldn't get out with just a fine, they would've gone to prison for at least 2 years.


i though it was about lolis no real CP
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So if I make a blog (on blogspot or wordpress) and host lolicon I'll get persued by the law? Because their servers are in USA but I don't live there so I'm at loss here.
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Kagura_Mai_Waifu said:
good time to be a homo


All the time, every time.
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Burek said:
So if I make a blog (on blogspot or wordpress) and host lolicon I'll get persued by the law? Because their servers are in USA but I don't live there so I'm at loss here.


i suppose they would shut you down and fine you. but as for prosecution that would have to be a govermental issue regarding deporation of you and handing over to amrican forces for legal prosecution under thier law.

it has been done befor because the law was broken withing thier contury they have the right to ask for extradition. you would need a good case for your goverment to not extradite you to american since you broke american law knowingly.

one such case was a man un UK who hacked CIA and was almost extradited, howver it turned out he has asburger and mental problems so he wasnt extradited in the end. but that was his only saving grace. unless your mentally ill or suffer from some real form of retardation then internation law states YOU GET PWNED!
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Jul 9, 2009 11:03 AM

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Monad said:
What troubles me is that i don't see any reference if we are talking about real girls or anime girls.
If they were real girls then we have nothing to be afraid of and this Sankaku site is just bullshitting us since laws for the real thing exist almost anywhere for a long time anyway.

Now if it's for anime girls then we have a problem and i better start looking at my pic collection because i might get arrested for some pics.


Sankaku likes to spin a lot. If it was really for anime girls, they could easily "hold" people who like anime for 48 hours and around 60% of them would be busted after investigation. Theres no point to protect imaginary girls from two people.

What I said was a little extreme, but more than two people post Loli-anime pics on the internet. They could have gotten a lot of people, but they didn't. Sounds like real girls.
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Hakua said:
Monad said:
What troubles me is that i don't see any reference if we are talking about real girls or anime girls.
If they were real girls then we have nothing to be afraid of and this Sankaku site is just bullshitting us since laws for the real thing exist almost anywhere for a long time anyway.

Now if it's for anime girls then we have a problem and i better start looking at my pic collection because i might get arrested for some pics.


Sankaku likes to spin a lot. If it was really for anime girls, they could easily "hold" people who like anime for 48 hours and around 60% of them would be busted after investigation. Theres no point to protect imaginary girls from two people.

What I said was a little extreme, but more than two people post Loli-anime pics on the internet. They could have gotten a lot of people, but they didn't. Sounds like real girls.


if it is real girls then they are probly being asked how they found the images and tracking them to source.

viewers of images should be treated liniantly imo but then again others disagree the makers are harder to catch and people need to be seen as to doing somthing constructive to ending this kind of porn.
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HISTORY said:
Hakua said:
Monad said:
What troubles me is that i don't see any reference if we are talking about real girls or anime girls.
If they were real girls then we have nothing to be afraid of and this Sankaku site is just bullshitting us since laws for the real thing exist almost anywhere for a long time anyway.

Now if it's for anime girls then we have a problem and i better start looking at my pic collection because i might get arrested for some pics.


Sankaku likes to spin a lot. If it was really for anime girls, they could easily "hold" people who like anime for 48 hours and around 60% of them would be busted after investigation. Theres no point to protect imaginary girls from two people.

What I said was a little extreme, but more than two people post Loli-anime pics on the internet. They could have gotten a lot of people, but they didn't. Sounds like real girls.


if it is real girls then they are probly being asked how they found the images and tracking them to source.

viewers of images should be treated liniantly imo but then again others disagree the makers are harder to catch and people need to be seen as to doing somthing constructive to ending this kind of porn.


That's how we'll know if it is anime-loli or the bad-loli. What are they going to do?

A. Anime Loli -> Track it? They may as well raid eroge and hentai game companies' headquarters instead of hunt small fry.
B. Bad Loli -> Deal + Track -> Justice
Jul 9, 2009 11:39 AM

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The article talks about actual underage girls I believe, not fictional ones. The sensation is the fact that these people were targeted for posting links and not possessing as far as I understand.
Jul 9, 2009 11:43 AM

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Baman said:
The article talks about actual underage girls I believe, not fictional ones. The sensation is the fact that these people were targeted for posting links and not possessing as far as I understand.


If it's hosted with anonymous online filehosts (megaupload etc) it's not 'possessed' but is still distributed. Sharing links is distribution.
Jul 9, 2009 11:45 AM

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Asako said:
If it's hosted with anonymous online filehosts (megaupload etc) it's not 'possessed' but is still distributed. Sharing links is distribution.
It says it's unknown how those files were uploaded; http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/07/09/first-arrests-over-loli-links/
Jul 9, 2009 4:04 PM

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Wait, so two people post links of underage women engaging in sex--illegally--and then get punished by the law? Shocking.

I gather that this isn't about lolicon but cp, correct?
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Wait, so two people post links of underage women engaging in sex--illegally--and then get punished by the law? Shocking.

I gather that this isn't about lolicon but cp, correct?


apparently so.
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good time to be a homo


All the time, every time.


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HISTORY said:
Kagura_Mai_Waifu said:
good time to be a homo


this is actually a good point. what about shota-con? people seem to overlook shota for mainly lolis. are we saying its ok for little boys pics to be distributed but not little girls pics? isnt this sexist to the MAX.

shota-con is just as bad if not worse as lolicon so if you are homo and you have shota will you get arrested? this hasnt been clarified yet in all the discussion weve had. or laws for that matter.


i dont think people actualy like shota,its more for shock value
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Kagura_Mai_Waifu said:
HISTORY said:
Kagura_Mai_Waifu said:
good time to be a homo


this is actually a good point. what about shota-con? people seem to overlook shota for mainly lolis. are we saying its ok for little boys pics to be distributed but not little girls pics? isnt this sexist to the MAX.

shota-con is just as bad if not worse as lolicon so if you are homo and you have shota will you get arrested? this hasnt been clarified yet in all the discussion weve had. or laws for that matter.


i dont think people actualy like shota,its more for shock value


lots of people like shota.
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Jul 9, 2009 4:57 PM

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"Lolicon never hurt anyone..Now pass the tissues and fuck off!"
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Oh noes what wil do without lolis?! KAKAKAKKAKAKA

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Jul 10, 2009 6:16 AM

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Loli, people should realize, is not gender specific.

If you are female, and like little boys, it's called loli then too.

If you're queer, it just means you like same sex loli.

But in the case of the article, they got nabbed for videos of actual people.

As for lolicon not hurting anyone. Well let's just say I wouldn't want to be the sick fuck found fapping to naked pics of anime personalities under 13 years old. Because odds are you would discover what hurt felt like :)
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Loli, people should realize, is not gender specific.

If you are female, and like little boys, it's called loli then too.

If you're queer, it just means you like same sex loli.



no
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I'm more worried that OP constantly says "omg, what's the problem about liking underage anime and loli omg" and yet again is afraid enough to post this news in an hysterical fashion and trying to generate the panic. OP should solve that within himself.

It is not clear what the illegal content consisted of

It was probably animated CP. It's still CP even if it's a drawing. And yes, I know it's stupid.
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It was probably animated CP. It's still CP even if it's a drawing. And yes, I know it's stupid.
Animated cp still doesn't count as illegal in Japan, so it couldn't have been. the article clearly stated it was porn with underage participants.
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I'm more worried that OP constantly says "omg, what's the problem about liking underage anime and loli omg" and yet again is afraid enough to post this news in an hysterical fashion and trying to generate the panic. OP should solve that within himself.

It is not clear what the illegal content consisted of

It was probably animated CP. It's still CP even if it's a drawing. And yes, I know it's stupid.


If I cared how you managed to get the inference I liked loli, I might also care that you thought my post was hysterical too.

Fortunately I couldn't care less.

I AM looking forward to one day being able to laugh at all the sick fuck lolis dealing with how their loli anime has been deemed no less an offense than genuine child porn.

But I suppose it won't happen tomorrow.
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tehnominator said:
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good time to be a homo


All the time, every time.


agree

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HISTORY said:
Sukunai said:
Loli, people should realize, is not gender specific.

If you are female, and like little boys, it's called loli then too.

If you're queer, it just means you like same sex loli.



no


History is right...

To elaborate,

Little boys, animated = shota.

Little girls, animated, = loli.

If you like loli you're a lolicon. If you like shota you're a shota con.

A male can be a shotacon and a female can be a lolicon.


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Being Gay>>>>>>>Getting Arrested By Loli Feds
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