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Feb 21, 2015 1:12 PM
#201
TheGilgamesh said: Savethebestforu said: Sorry for possibly starting a flame war, but tell me again why Slaine isn't unanimously considered the best character in this show? Without him the plot would be nothing. He's the most polarizing character that I can remember in recent history, and his haters are the most passionate people I have ever seen on the internet. I just can't see any other character that can stand up to him in this show. In4 people call him a yandere immoral murderer, as if morality determines a character's worth. Slaine it`s the best character in this anime (and the more interesting) . Inaho it`s plane and Asseylum it`s a topical idealist princess One of the failures of this anime it`s that there aren`t many interesting characters . Only Slaine , Rayet and the old Count Saazbaum are interesting really (Marito had potencial , but he finally haven`t importance in the plot) TheGilgamesh said: Savethebestforu said: Sorry for possibly starting a flame war, but tell me again why Slaine isn't unanimously considered the best character in this show? Without him the plot would be nothing. He's the most polarizing character that I can remember in recent history, and his haters are the most passionate people I have ever seen on the internet. I just can't see any other character that can stand up to him in this show. In4 people call him a yandere immoral murderer, as if morality determines a character's worth. Slaine it`s the best character in this anime (and the more interesting) . Inaho it`s plane and Asseylum it`s a topical idealist princess One of the failures of this anime it`s that there aren`t many interesting characters . Only Slaine , Rayet and the old Count Saazbaum are interesting really (Marito had potencial , but he finally haven`t importance in the plot) Dude Marito is the plot, that guy pretty much give out so many spoilers that sums up where this shows was going. He reveals that Politicans grow in power while soldiers grow in ranks, but still a Politician can screw over many soldiers.In this episode we see Earth politicians underestimate a Martian poltician that he is a bluff.Didnt bother aiding the delucacion which by the end of this episode screws over the entire soldiers.Politics is a dirty scheme. |
Feb 21, 2015 1:12 PM
#202
It seems that the princess didn't say Inahoe's name when she woke up after all. Seems like I wasn't the one delusional. But yeah, it's pretty damn predictable now. She will remember what happened fully few episodes later and ditch Slaine. ZZZZZzzzz |
Feb 21, 2015 1:15 PM
#203
Slaine is starting stressed by the weight of his decision and the show. Started rather slow but the ending with the soundtrack was really good, loved how Inaho commented that the new patterns of knights' attacks are by Slaine's command. I wish they showed Inaho's tactical side more than the technical one. |
Feb 21, 2015 1:15 PM
#204
Maryruss said: That's true. It would have been like knife in his back, but on the other hand, this way is like stabbing him multiple times and then pouring salt on those wounds.Symqn said: was hoping she would said Inahos name when she woke up because FUCK YOU SLAIN. Jaja, that would be amusing. |
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Feb 21, 2015 1:17 PM
#205
Darklight0303 said: kymano said: Darklight0303 said: kymano said: Darklight0303 said: kymano said: Dragon_Slayer_X said: kymano said: Nope , Slaine's not angry over Inaho, if he was he would have killed him in ep 15, he is angry with himself, how the dirty scheme of Martian politics had changed him for the worse. Clearly he cannot back out now, his goal is to unite the counts under his authority and Counts need a show to be put on. Yeah and after they learn that Slaine has deceived them all this time and killed Saazbaum, they are going to say "Slaine-sama so cool" No not really, they are just going to team-up against him. Also he clearly was jealous and in a 1-1 battle he couldn't kill Inaho. Then why didnt he do it if he was jealous, Clearly Eldi told him everything about Inaho and Asseylum and he still didnt kill Inaho.Inaho was right there damaged and out of luck, or better yet he could've killed Inko and leave Inaho to be shredded by the raining bullet but he didnt. Also he single-handedly took out the Terran space HQ base which is more powerful than the Delucacion, so that means he could have took out the Delucacion but he didnt . Like the saying goes "the show must go on" Slaine has already challenged the Counts to accept his offer of Unity under his authority and the Counts are expecting a good show. Slaine is just angry at the what he had to do to get through to the Counts. LOL What? He killed a defenseless base exactly because Inaho was not there to stop him Inaho's mecha was severly damaged during then and Delucacion had orders to return back to Earth,either way Inaho could not chase Slaine.Also that base was NOT defenseless they are a HQ which means they are armed and have soldiers with Mechas but still Slaine took them out. Against a machine that can predict the future, the base was as good as defenseless. Then what chances where there for Inaho? Clearly he had trouble depicting if Slaine was using predictions or not and almost got caught in Slaine's trap. Inaho is skillful way of planning out battles but Slaine is sneaky and will always slip his way through to victory. Inaho has managed to discover ways to deal with mechs on the fly. He needs data and to observe the mech in action. That's all he requires to come up with couter tactics. Slaine has sneaky tactics which he can use to his advantage, as shown in his fight with Count curly he clearly maps out the environment and uses the best to his benefits.I hope Slaine is not giving any commands on how the Counts should fight cause that will be the worse for Inaho. |
Feb 21, 2015 1:17 PM
#206
Someone else pointed this out on another forum and I can totally see it happening I get the feeling this is gonna be the battle that will destroy his orange machine. Forcing him to get a new and better one to pilot. Odin needs his Sleipnir. Make it happen. Please make this happen lol |
Feb 21, 2015 1:21 PM
#207
Savethebestforu said: Sorry for possibly starting a flame war, but tell me again why Slaine isn't unanimously considered the best character in this show? Without him the plot would be nothing. He's the most polarizing character that I can remember in recent history, and his haters are the most passionate people I have ever seen on the internet. I just can't see any other character that can stand up to him in this show. This. So much this. In a show with high production values, that's being brought down by it's extremely flat and uninteresting characters, Slaine is the only one that provides us with any real content or development. Is he flawed? Very much so and his questionable morality and choices will most probably cost him his life before this show is over, but there can be little doubt that he's the most interesting character bar none. |
Feb 21, 2015 1:22 PM
#208
kymano said: Darklight0303 said: kymano said: Darklight0303 said: kymano said: Darklight0303 said: kymano said: Dragon_Slayer_X said: kymano said: Nope , Slaine's not angry over Inaho, if he was he would have killed him in ep 15, he is angry with himself, how the dirty scheme of Martian politics had changed him for the worse. Clearly he cannot back out now, his goal is to unite the counts under his authority and Counts need a show to be put on. Yeah and after they learn that Slaine has deceived them all this time and killed Saazbaum, they are going to say "Slaine-sama so cool" No not really, they are just going to team-up against him. Also he clearly was jealous and in a 1-1 battle he couldn't kill Inaho. Then why didnt he do it if he was jealous, Clearly Eldi told him everything about Inaho and Asseylum and he still didnt kill Inaho.Inaho was right there damaged and out of luck, or better yet he could've killed Inko and leave Inaho to be shredded by the raining bullet but he didnt. Also he single-handedly took out the Terran space HQ base which is more powerful than the Delucacion, so that means he could have took out the Delucacion but he didnt . Like the saying goes "the show must go on" Slaine has already challenged the Counts to accept his offer of Unity under his authority and the Counts are expecting a good show. Slaine is just angry at the what he had to do to get through to the Counts. LOL What? He killed a defenseless base exactly because Inaho was not there to stop him Inaho's mecha was severly damaged during then and Delucacion had orders to return back to Earth,either way Inaho could not chase Slaine.Also that base was NOT defenseless they are a HQ which means they are armed and have soldiers with Mechas but still Slaine took them out. Against a machine that can predict the future, the base was as good as defenseless. Then what chances where there for Inaho? Clearly he had trouble depicting if Slaine was using predictions or not and almost got caught in Slaine's trap. Inaho is skillful way of planning out battles but Slaine is sneaky and will always slip his way through to victory. Inaho has managed to discover ways to deal with mechs on the fly. He needs data and to observe the mech in action. That's all he requires to come up with couter tactics. Slaine has sneaky tactics which he can use to his advantage, as shown in his fight with Count curly he clearly maps out the environment and uses the best to his benefits.I hope Slaine is not giving any commands on how the Counts should fight cause that will be the worse for Inaho. Lol he knows jack squat about Earth though so he can't be that sneaky. |
Feb 21, 2015 1:22 PM
#209
Tokoya said: Someone else pointed this out on another forum and I can totally see it happening I get the feeling this is gonna be the battle that will destroy his orange machine. Forcing him to get a new and better one to pilot. Odin needs his Sleipnir. Make it happen. Please make this happen lol I doubt that is ever going to happen. Terrans use mass-produced kats, if he loses his Sleipnir he can easily get a new one. It already happened after he defeated Vlad. Caraculiambro said: Savethebestforu said: Sorry for possibly starting a flame war, but tell me again why Slaine isn't unanimously considered the best character in this show? Without him the plot would be nothing. He's the most polarizing character that I can remember in recent history, and his haters are the most passionate people I have ever seen on the internet. I just can't see any other character that can stand up to him in this show. This. So much this. In a show with high production values, that's being brought down by it's extremely flat and uninteresting characters, Slaine is the only one that provides us with any real content or development. Is he flawed? Very much so and his questionable morality and choices will most probably cost him his life before this show is over, but there can be little doubt that he's the most interesting character bar none. The problem is that there was never actual development, they are currently a forcing a new persona on Slaine. In the first season all he cared about is the princess. Why does he suddenly care so much about being the king of vers? The world will never know. |
Raziel1991Feb 21, 2015 1:25 PM
Feb 21, 2015 1:23 PM
#210
kymano said: Darklight0303 said: kymano said: Darklight0303 said: kymano said: Darklight0303 said: kymano said: Dragon_Slayer_X said: kymano said: Nope , Slaine's not angry over Inaho, if he was he would have killed him in ep 15, he is angry with himself, how the dirty scheme of Martian politics had changed him for the worse. Clearly he cannot back out now, his goal is to unite the counts under his authority and Counts need a show to be put on. Yeah and after they learn that Slaine has deceived them all this time and killed Saazbaum, they are going to say "Slaine-sama so cool" No not really, they are just going to team-up against him. Also he clearly was jealous and in a 1-1 battle he couldn't kill Inaho. Then why didnt he do it if he was jealous, Clearly Eldi told him everything about Inaho and Asseylum and he still didnt kill Inaho.Inaho was right there damaged and out of luck, or better yet he could've killed Inko and leave Inaho to be shredded by the raining bullet but he didnt. Also he single-handedly took out the Terran space HQ base which is more powerful than the Delucacion, so that means he could have took out the Delucacion but he didnt . Like the saying goes "the show must go on" Slaine has already challenged the Counts to accept his offer of Unity under his authority and the Counts are expecting a good show. Slaine is just angry at the what he had to do to get through to the Counts. LOL What? He killed a defenseless base exactly because Inaho was not there to stop him Inaho's mecha was severly damaged during then and Delucacion had orders to return back to Earth,either way Inaho could not chase Slaine.Also that base was NOT defenseless they are a HQ which means they are armed and have soldiers with Mechas but still Slaine took them out. Against a machine that can predict the future, the base was as good as defenseless. Then what chances where there for Inaho? Clearly he had trouble depicting if Slaine was using predictions or not and almost got caught in Slaine's trap. Inaho is skillful way of planning out battles but Slaine is sneaky and will always slip his way through to victory. Inaho has managed to discover ways to deal with mechs on the fly. He needs data and to observe the mech in action. That's all he requires to come up with couter tactics. Slaine has sneaky tactics which he can use to his advantage, as shown in his fight with Count curly he clearly maps out the environment and uses the best to his benefits.I hope Slaine is not giving any commands on how the Counts should fight cause that will be the worse for Inaho. all tactics and commands, won artificially and strength through the convenience, Slaine has never been shown to be capable of such qualities in the first season. Out of nowhere he get such artifices, in the second season, so that makes it an artificial character, who suffered upgrades for convenience, and not naturally |
Feb 21, 2015 1:23 PM
#211
I really hate Slaine, i cant wait till the princess finally realizes what has happened. |
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Feb 21, 2015 1:26 PM
#212
ANGRY2011 said: seujair31 said: Savethebestforu said: Sorry for possibly starting a flame war, but tell me again why Slaine isn't unanimously considered the best character in this show? Without him the plot would be nothing. He's the most polarizing character that I can remember in recent history, and his haters are the most passionate people I have ever seen on the internet. I just can't see any other character that can stand up to him in this show. In4 people call him a yandere immoral murderer, as if morality determines a character's worth. ready now will say it's not a sick fanatic, why not face the facts asshole, Slaine is the most hated character from Makoto Itou - School Days. Do not force your Child ATV and delusional views in other users. Slaine and their forced and artificial development with forced coveniecias of events. that makes it all work pro lated in his second season with no difficulty, a fact that the convenience is shown when no count is opposed to it, all artificial, for convenience and strength. "why not face the facts asshole" OMFG LOL. seujair bringing out the big guns. Amazing. all tactics and commands, won artificially and strength through the convenience, Slaine has never been shown to be capable of such qualities in the first season. Out of nowhere he get such artifices, in the second season, so that makes it an artificial character, who suffered upgrades for convenience, and not naturally |
Feb 21, 2015 1:26 PM
#213
TheGilgamesh said: Slaine it`s the best character in this anime (and the more interesting) . Inaho it`s plane and Asseylum it`s a topical idealist princess The princess is far from typical, she ran out into a freaking battlefield in order to stop the war with her own hands. Yes she loves peace but she's not just wishing for it while being naive of the world. She understood her naivety and decided to go out and fight for the peace even if it meant risking her life..... which put her in a coma for 6 episodes. Inaho, god damn it where's Greyzones lengthy post of all the information that makes him far from plain I really don't want to type all that up so i'll just say this, there are so many subtle undertones to that character that for some reason so many people seem to miss, not pay attention to, or completely disregard and ignore. |
Feb 21, 2015 1:28 PM
#214
deadoptimist said: Savethebestforu said: Sorry for possibly starting a flame war, but tell me again why Slaine isn't unanimously considered the best character in this show? Without him the plot would be nothing. He's the most polarizing character that I can remember in recent history, and his haters are the most passionate people I have ever seen on the internet. I just can't see any other character that can stand up to him in this show. In4 people call him a yandere immoral murderer, as if morality determines a character's worth. Cause some people may only like a character with whom they always agree. They need to associate themselves with him and like being him to think him a good character. And they evaluate characters the same way they would evaluate a friend or maybe even employee - their favourite character should be morally flawless, don't make mistakes, be on the right side. It also usually goes with thinking themselves always right ("Why does he do this thing? It's stupid, I would never...") In my opinion it is most characteristic for young males. That's my honest impression. wow thats deep btw. I think what is gonna happen, is that at the very end asseylum will forgive slaine and anything seems to be alright. Then some mad bitch will kill one of the three. maybe fake princess, killing inaho for slaine, or killing slaine because.. too obvious. This show is so stupid sometimes, everything is passible. |
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Feb 21, 2015 1:29 PM
#215
KamiAlice said: TheGilgamesh said: Slaine it`s the best character in this anime (and the more interesting) . Inaho it`s plane and Asseylum it`s a topical idealist princess The princess is far from typical, she ran out into a freaking battlefield in order to stop the war with her own hands. Yes she loves peace but she's not just wishing for it while being naive of the world. She understood her naivety and decided to go out and fight for the peace even if it meant risking her life..... which put her in a coma for 6 episodes. Inaho, god damn it where's Greyzones lengthy post of all the information that makes him far from plain I really don't want to type all that up so i'll just say this, there are so many subtle undertones to that character that for some reason so many people seem to miss, not pay attention to, or completely disregard and ignore. It is really just the same when people dismiss Slaine's development and arbitrarily recast him as a generic villian, one that has to be hated 24/7, when he is honestly far more than that. |
Feb 21, 2015 1:30 PM
#216
Comander-07 said: deadoptimist said: Savethebestforu said: Sorry for possibly starting a flame war, but tell me again why Slaine isn't unanimously considered the best character in this show? Without him the plot would be nothing. He's the most polarizing character that I can remember in recent history, and his haters are the most passionate people I have ever seen on the internet. I just can't see any other character that can stand up to him in this show. In4 people call him a yandere immoral murderer, as if morality determines a character's worth. Cause some people may only like a character with whom they always agree. They need to associate themselves with him and like being him to think him a good character. And they evaluate characters the same way they would evaluate a friend or maybe even employee - their favourite character should be morally flawless, don't make mistakes, be on the right side. It also usually goes with thinking themselves always right ("Why does he do this thing? It's stupid, I would never...") In my opinion it is most characteristic for young males. That's my honest impression. wow thats deep btw. I think what is gonna happen, is that at the very end asseylum will forgive slaine and anything seems to be alright. Then some mad bitch will kill one of the three. maybe fake princess, killing inaho for slaine, or killing slaine because.. too obvious. This show is so stupid sometimes, everything is passible. Yeah no that's not likely |
Feb 21, 2015 1:30 PM
#217
Caraculiambro said: Savethebestforu said: Sorry for possibly starting a flame war, but tell me again why Slaine isn't unanimously considered the best character in this show? Without him the plot would be nothing. He's the most polarizing character that I can remember in recent history, and his haters are the most passionate people I have ever seen on the internet. I just can't see any other character that can stand up to him in this show. This. So much this. In a show with high production values, that's being brought down by it's extremely flat and uninteresting characters, Slaine is the only one that provides us with any real content or development. Is he flawed? Very much so and his questionable morality and choices will most probably cost him his life before this show is over, but there can be little doubt that he's the most interesting character bar none. developments artificial and forced convenience. A character who never proved capable of such acts and deeds, and have such habilididades the first tempora, and suddenly in the second season appears with various skills and aptitude to various things that have never been shown. Simply refers to an artificial written, strength and convenience. Development very forced through artificial means, showing the super gains questions which have never been able to wake up. Of course you are one of those who like, a stupid character, have an entirely artificial transformation, winning several skills and aptitude for certain subjects, artificially and for convenience |
seujair31Feb 21, 2015 1:34 PM
Feb 21, 2015 1:31 PM
#218
Viktor_Otaku said: KamiAlice said: TheGilgamesh said: Slaine it`s the best character in this anime (and the more interesting) . Inaho it`s plane and Asseylum it`s a topical idealist princess The princess is far from typical, she ran out into a freaking battlefield in order to stop the war with her own hands. Yes she loves peace but she's not just wishing for it while being naive of the world. She understood her naivety and decided to go out and fight for the peace even if it meant risking her life..... which put her in a coma for 6 episodes. Inaho, god damn it where's Greyzones lengthy post of all the information that makes him far from plain I really don't want to type all that up so i'll just say this, there are so many subtle undertones to that character that for some reason so many people seem to miss, not pay attention to, or completely disregard and ignore. It is really just the same when people dismiss Slaine's development and arbitrarily recast him as a generic villian, one that has to be hated 24/7, when he is honestly far more than that. Even though this episode pretty much confirmed him as the generic villain. Still sipping on those denial fumes |
Feb 21, 2015 1:31 PM
#219
kymano said: TheGilgamesh said: Savethebestforu said: Sorry for possibly starting a flame war, but tell me again why Slaine isn't unanimously considered the best character in this show? Without him the plot would be nothing. He's the most polarizing character that I can remember in recent history, and his haters are the most passionate people I have ever seen on the internet. I just can't see any other character that can stand up to him in this show. In4 people call him a yandere immoral murderer, as if morality determines a character's worth. Slaine it`s the best character in this anime (and the more interesting) . Inaho it`s plane and Asseylum it`s a topical idealist princess One of the failures of this anime it`s that there aren`t many interesting characters . Only Slaine , Rayet and the old Count Saazbaum are interesting really (Marito had potencial , but he finally haven`t importance in the plot) TheGilgamesh said: Savethebestforu said: Sorry for possibly starting a flame war, but tell me again why Slaine isn't unanimously considered the best character in this show? Without him the plot would be nothing. He's the most polarizing character that I can remember in recent history, and his haters are the most passionate people I have ever seen on the internet. I just can't see any other character that can stand up to him in this show. In4 people call him a yandere immoral murderer, as if morality determines a character's worth. Slaine it`s the best character in this anime (and the more interesting) . Inaho it`s plane and Asseylum it`s a topical idealist princess One of the failures of this anime it`s that there aren`t many interesting characters . Only Slaine , Rayet and the old Count Saazbaum are interesting really (Marito had potencial , but he finally haven`t importance in the plot) Dude Marito is the plot, that guy pretty much give out so many spoilers that sums up where this shows was going. He reveals that Politicans grow in power while soldiers grow in ranks, but still a Politician can screw over many soldiers.In this episode we see Earth politicians underestimate a Martian poltician that he is a bluff.Didnt bother aiding the delucacion which by the end of this episode screws over the entire soldiers.Politics is a dirty scheme. Marito has good background , but in this season Marito is more secundary than in the first season (and completely useless in combat) Seujair31 , there are a lot of characters more hateful than Slaine . You only see the main protagonist of Guilty Crown . this character is worse than Slaine (much worse) |
Feb 21, 2015 1:33 PM
#220
seujair31 said: kymano said: Darklight0303 said: kymano said: Darklight0303 said: kymano said: Darklight0303 said: kymano said: Dragon_Slayer_X said: kymano said: Nope , Slaine's not angry over Inaho, if he was he would have killed him in ep 15, he is angry with himself, how the dirty scheme of Martian politics had changed him for the worse. Clearly he cannot back out now, his goal is to unite the counts under his authority and Counts need a show to be put on. Yeah and after they learn that Slaine has deceived them all this time and killed Saazbaum, they are going to say "Slaine-sama so cool" No not really, they are just going to team-up against him. Also he clearly was jealous and in a 1-1 battle he couldn't kill Inaho. Then why didnt he do it if he was jealous, Clearly Eldi told him everything about Inaho and Asseylum and he still didnt kill Inaho.Inaho was right there damaged and out of luck, or better yet he could've killed Inko and leave Inaho to be shredded by the raining bullet but he didnt. Also he single-handedly took out the Terran space HQ base which is more powerful than the Delucacion, so that means he could have took out the Delucacion but he didnt . Like the saying goes "the show must go on" Slaine has already challenged the Counts to accept his offer of Unity under his authority and the Counts are expecting a good show. Slaine is just angry at the what he had to do to get through to the Counts. LOL What? He killed a defenseless base exactly because Inaho was not there to stop him Inaho's mecha was severly damaged during then and Delucacion had orders to return back to Earth,either way Inaho could not chase Slaine.Also that base was NOT defenseless they are a HQ which means they are armed and have soldiers with Mechas but still Slaine took them out. Against a machine that can predict the future, the base was as good as defenseless. Then what chances where there for Inaho? Clearly he had trouble depicting if Slaine was using predictions or not and almost got caught in Slaine's trap. Inaho is skillful way of planning out battles but Slaine is sneaky and will always slip his way through to victory. Inaho has managed to discover ways to deal with mechs on the fly. He needs data and to observe the mech in action. That's all he requires to come up with couter tactics. Slaine has sneaky tactics which he can use to his advantage, as shown in his fight with Count curly he clearly maps out the environment and uses the best to his benefits.I hope Slaine is not giving any commands on how the Counts should fight cause that will be the worse for Inaho. all tactics and commands, won artificially and strength through the convenience, Slaine has never been shown to be capable of such qualities in the first season. Out of nowhere he get such artifices, in the second season, so that makes it an artificial character, who suffered upgrades for convenience, and not naturally Thank you , TBH i was suprised when it seemed that Slaine has found possible ways to counter-attack Inaho or atleast give assumptions on Inaho's actions.Sneaky tactics are easy to pull off once you are able to predicts 2 options which the enemy might use and its possible that Slaine might have picked up this habit in ep 7 of S1. |
Feb 21, 2015 1:34 PM
#222
Watch Inaho next episode ass pulling them out of that situation. |
Feb 21, 2015 1:34 PM
#223
Viktor_Otaku said: KamiAlice said: TheGilgamesh said: Slaine it`s the best character in this anime (and the more interesting) . Inaho it`s plane and Asseylum it`s a topical idealist princess The princess is far from typical, she ran out into a freaking battlefield in order to stop the war with her own hands. Yes she loves peace but she's not just wishing for it while being naive of the world. She understood her naivety and decided to go out and fight for the peace even if it meant risking her life..... which put her in a coma for 6 episodes. Inaho, god damn it where's Greyzones lengthy post of all the information that makes him far from plain I really don't want to type all that up so i'll just say this, there are so many subtle undertones to that character that for some reason so many people seem to miss, not pay attention to, or completely disregard and ignore. It is really just the same when people dismiss Slaine's development and arbitrarily recast him as a generic villian, one that has to be hated 24/7, when he is honestly far more than that. Not disagreeing with you, but in all honesty people don't dislike slaine as a villian, they dislike slaine because he is a villian. Slaine's actions are the reason people hate him, not because he's badly written or anything. Well maybe some. |
Feb 21, 2015 1:34 PM
#224
I know seujair is just gonna keep shouting about it, but I don't find it that hard to believe that the guy with the mech that can see the future turned into a good pilot during the really long time skip. *shrug* |
Feb 21, 2015 1:35 PM
#225
KamiAlice said: Viktor_Otaku said: KamiAlice said: TheGilgamesh said: Slaine it`s the best character in this anime (and the more interesting) . Inaho it`s plane and Asseylum it`s a topical idealist princess The princess is far from typical, she ran out into a freaking battlefield in order to stop the war with her own hands. Yes she loves peace but she's not just wishing for it while being naive of the world. She understood her naivety and decided to go out and fight for the peace even if it meant risking her life..... which put her in a coma for 6 episodes. Inaho, god damn it where's Greyzones lengthy post of all the information that makes him far from plain I really don't want to type all that up so i'll just say this, there are so many subtle undertones to that character that for some reason so many people seem to miss, not pay attention to, or completely disregard and ignore. It is really just the same when people dismiss Slaine's development and arbitrarily recast him as a generic villian, one that has to be hated 24/7, when he is honestly far more than that. Not disagreeing with you, but in all honesty people don't dislike slaine as a villian, they dislike slaine because he is a villian. Slaine's actions are the reason people hate him, not because he's badly written or anything. Well maybe some. bingo |
Feb 21, 2015 1:37 PM
#226
Darklight0303 said: KamiAlice said: Viktor_Otaku said: KamiAlice said: TheGilgamesh said: Slaine it`s the best character in this anime (and the more interesting) . Inaho it`s plane and Asseylum it`s a topical idealist princess The princess is far from typical, she ran out into a freaking battlefield in order to stop the war with her own hands. Yes she loves peace but she's not just wishing for it while being naive of the world. She understood her naivety and decided to go out and fight for the peace even if it meant risking her life..... which put her in a coma for 6 episodes. Inaho, god damn it where's Greyzones lengthy post of all the information that makes him far from plain I really don't want to type all that up so i'll just say this, there are so many subtle undertones to that character that for some reason so many people seem to miss, not pay attention to, or completely disregard and ignore. It is really just the same when people dismiss Slaine's development and arbitrarily recast him as a generic villian, one that has to be hated 24/7, when he is honestly far more than that. Not disagreeing with you, but in all honesty people don't dislike slaine as a villian, they dislike slaine because he is a villian. Slaine's actions are the reason people hate him, not because he's badly written or anything. Well maybe some. bingo Was his name-o |
Feb 21, 2015 1:37 PM
#227
ANGRY2011 said: I know seujair is just gonna keep shouting about it, but I don't find it that hard to believe that the guy with the mech that can see the future turned into a good pilot during the really long time skip. *shrug* I think that's what happens at every war - people learn to fight. So I don't see it is unrealistic as well. |
Feb 21, 2015 1:38 PM
#228
KamiAlice said: TheGilgamesh said: Slaine it`s the best character in this anime (and the more interesting) . Inaho it`s plane and Asseylum it`s a topical idealist princess The princess is far from typical, she ran out into a freaking battlefield in order to stop the war with her own hands. Yes she loves peace but she's not just wishing for it while being naive of the world. She understood her naivety and decided to go out and fight for the peace even if it meant risking her life..... which put her in a coma for 6 episodes. Inaho, god damn it where's Greyzones lengthy post of all the information that makes him far from plain I really don't want to type all that up so i'll just say this, there are so many subtle undertones to that character that for some reason so many people seem to miss, not pay attention to, or completely disregard and ignore. Takayama made it clear in a recent interview (Newtype, November) that they were purposely going for 'someone who doesn't second-guess him/herself'. "A lot of things have been said about Inaho, but he actually 'became/was written as' a true hero. Back when I worked with Director Shinbo Akiyuki (of SHAFT fame), he told me that 'heroes can't worry (over their decisions)', and that really struck a chord with me. On top of that, as (author) Miyazawa Kenji wrote in his poem "Be not defeated by the rain", it's necessary to leave your own safety out of the equation (i.e. to just be concerned about the safety of others). It's not that he doesn't say kind things that leave others saying he's 'a good person', but rather, the outcomes of his actions speak of his kindness. Furthermore, he's just doing what he thinks he should do. When we reflected on what exactly it is that makes a hero, on the character that would take the most effective actions in this story, Inaho quite naturally came into being." |
Feb 21, 2015 1:40 PM
#229
KamiAlice said: Viktor_Otaku said: KamiAlice said: TheGilgamesh said: Slaine it`s the best character in this anime (and the more interesting) . Inaho it`s plane and Asseylum it`s a topical idealist princess The princess is far from typical, she ran out into a freaking battlefield in order to stop the war with her own hands. Yes she loves peace but she's not just wishing for it while being naive of the world. She understood her naivety and decided to go out and fight for the peace even if it meant risking her life..... which put her in a coma for 6 episodes. Inaho, god damn it where's Greyzones lengthy post of all the information that makes him far from plain I really don't want to type all that up so i'll just say this, there are so many subtle undertones to that character that for some reason so many people seem to miss, not pay attention to, or completely disregard and ignore. It is really just the same when people dismiss Slaine's development and arbitrarily recast him as a generic villian, one that has to be hated 24/7, when he is honestly far more than that. Not disagreeing with you, but in all honesty people don't dislike slaine as a villian, they dislike slaine because he is a villian. Slaine's actions are the reason people hate him, not because he's badly written or anything. Well maybe some. I find him the most interesting. Inaho being OP and somehow beating the "villian of the week" every time is just anti-climatic, and now that he's starting "smooth talk" like Kirito from SAO, it's starting to feel cringeworthy (ofc that's subjective). I'd much rather follow Slaine's story than follow Inaho's mundane formulaic path. |
Feb 21, 2015 1:40 PM
#230
KamiAlice said: Not disagreeing with you, but in all honesty people don't dislike slaine as a villian, they dislike slaine because he is a villian. Slaine's actions are the reason people hate him, not because he's badly written or anything. Well maybe some. But isn't it absurd if it's his role in the plot? I mean, why hate an antagonist (or deuteragonist turned antagonist) for what he is, if he is entertaining? I mean... isn't it slightly childish? |
Feb 21, 2015 1:42 PM
#231
KamiAlice said: TheGilgamesh said: Slaine it`s the best character in this anime (and the more interesting) . Inaho it`s plane and Asseylum it`s a topical idealist princess The princess is far from typical, she ran out into a freaking battlefield in order to stop the war with her own hands. Yes she loves peace but she's not just wishing for it while being naive of the world. She understood her naivety and decided to go out and fight for the peace even if it meant risking her life..... which put her in a coma for 6 episodes. Inaho, god damn it where's Greyzones lengthy post of all the information that makes him far from plain I really don't want to type all that up so i'll just say this, there are so many subtle undertones to that character that for some reason so many people seem to miss, not pay attention to, or completely disregard and ignore. Inaho is the Kirito`s mecha pilot version . They are plane characters that the people like beacause they are the more powerful (too powerful , ludicrously) characters in his worlds At least Inaho hasn`t got a great harem . One point pro to Orange The princess in my understanding it`s typical , she hasn`t nothing resaltable . I think there are some characters more charismatics (like Slaine or Rayet) |
Feb 21, 2015 1:44 PM
#232
deadoptimist said: KamiAlice said: Not disagreeing with you, but in all honesty people don't dislike slaine as a villian, they dislike slaine because he is a villian. Slaine's actions are the reason people hate him, not because he's badly written or anything. Well maybe some. But isn't it absurd if it's his role in the plot? I mean, why hate an antagonist (or deuteragonist turned antagonist) for what he is, if he is entertaining? I mean... isn't it slightly childish? No the stupid part is why can't we hate the Antagonist even if he is interesting/entertaining and like the Protagonist even if he seems dull TO YOU? |
Feb 21, 2015 1:44 PM
#233
i like the build up this episode had Makes you all prepared for the next episode |
Hate Keeps me warm |
Feb 21, 2015 1:45 PM
#234
deadoptimist said: KamiAlice said: Not disagreeing with you, but in all honesty people don't dislike slaine as a villian, they dislike slaine because he is a villian. Slaine's actions are the reason people hate him, not because he's badly written or anything. Well maybe some. But isn't it absurd if it's his role in the plot? I mean, why hate an antagonist (or deuteragonist turned antagonist) for what he is, if he is entertaining? I mean... isn't it slightly childish? I wouldn't know, from my perspective I like how they're both written, that's all that matters to me. The problem is posts Just like the one above yours, statements like those in all honesty are incredibly annoying. |
Feb 21, 2015 1:45 PM
#235
TheGilgamesh said: KamiAlice said: TheGilgamesh said: Slaine it`s the best character in this anime (and the more interesting) . Inaho it`s plane and Asseylum it`s a topical idealist princess The princess is far from typical, she ran out into a freaking battlefield in order to stop the war with her own hands. Yes she loves peace but she's not just wishing for it while being naive of the world. She understood her naivety and decided to go out and fight for the peace even if it meant risking her life..... which put her in a coma for 6 episodes. Inaho, god damn it where's Greyzones lengthy post of all the information that makes him far from plain I really don't want to type all that up so i'll just say this, there are so many subtle undertones to that character that for some reason so many people seem to miss, not pay attention to, or completely disregard and ignore. Inaho it`s the Kirito`s mecha pilot version . They are plane characters that the people like beacause they are the more powerful (too powerful , ludicrously) characters in his worlds At least Inaho hasn`t got a great harem . One point pro to Orange The princess in my understanding it`s typical , she hasn`t nothing resaltable . I think there are some characters more charismatics (like Slaine or Rayet) So being powerful equals to being like Kirito?Sigh. This is getting ridiculous. |
Feb 21, 2015 1:46 PM
#236
TheGilgamesh said: Inaho is the Kirito`s mecha pilot version . They are plane characters that the people like beacause they are the more powerful (too powerful , ludicrously) characters in his worlds At least Inaho hasn`t got a great harem . One point pro to Orange The princess in my understanding it`s typical , she hasn`t nothing resaltable . I think there are some characters more charismatics (like Slaine or Rayet) So you hated the Genius kids in your class just because they were genius...........must have been a sad life. He didn't somehow win, he won with analysis and strategy........not by conviniently getting an OP mecha. |
Feb 21, 2015 1:46 PM
#237
Darklight0303 said: o123o said: Looks like Slaine's sister sandwich now wont happen since the blonde princess is thinking about Inaho. I would be angry too You reap what you sow. Also that's what you get when you are too blind to see your love is onesided on your part IMHO Slaine wasn't blind to it; he knew (I come back to Slaine hearing Seylum calling Inaho's name in ep12, opening the capsule, comforting him & holding his hand) but has been either 1 lying to himself (maybe this is what you meant by blindness?) or 2 playing some weird odds - you're familiar with Nasreddin (or Nasrudin) and the Sultan's Horse? search horse here: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Sufism/Nasrudin? https://www.google.ca/search?q=sultan%27s+horse&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=qPvoVMHwLNOIsQSL-IC4DQ#q=sultan%27s+horse+nasrudin |
Feb 21, 2015 1:47 PM
#238
Btw, I hope that the older count won't get rekt too fast. He seems as an interesting man, from the same generation as Cruhteo and Saazbaum or slightly older. He seems really battle hungry, and he was intelligent enough to wait for a good moment and combine his power with the others. I wonder if he is the cautious clever type. |
Feb 21, 2015 1:47 PM
#239
Octave_ said: Watch Inaho next episode ass pulling them out of that situation. I dont know about that, it seems Inaho was modding his mech earlier, could've been he is the one actually taking Slaine seriously? |
Feb 21, 2015 1:48 PM
#240
Raziel1991 said: TheGilgamesh said: KamiAlice said: TheGilgamesh said: Slaine it`s the best character in this anime (and the more interesting) . Inaho it`s plane and Asseylum it`s a topical idealist princess The princess is far from typical, she ran out into a freaking battlefield in order to stop the war with her own hands. Yes she loves peace but she's not just wishing for it while being naive of the world. She understood her naivety and decided to go out and fight for the peace even if it meant risking her life..... which put her in a coma for 6 episodes. Inaho, god damn it where's Greyzones lengthy post of all the information that makes him far from plain I really don't want to type all that up so i'll just say this, there are so many subtle undertones to that character that for some reason so many people seem to miss, not pay attention to, or completely disregard and ignore. Inaho it`s the Kirito`s mecha pilot version . They are plane characters that the people like beacause they are the more powerful (too powerful , ludicrously) characters in his worlds At least Inaho hasn`t got a great harem . One point pro to Orange The princess in my understanding it`s typical , she hasn`t nothing resaltable . I think there are some characters more charismatics (like Slaine or Rayet) So being powerful equals to being like Kirito?Sigh. This is getting ridiculous. Be too powerful and not have personality it`s synonymous of ``Kirito´´ . Do you think that Kirito has any type of personality? He`s as plane as Inaho . Characters with 0 charisma |
Feb 21, 2015 1:49 PM
#241
TheGilgamesh said: Raziel1991 said: TheGilgamesh said: KamiAlice said: TheGilgamesh said: Slaine it`s the best character in this anime (and the more interesting) . Inaho it`s plane and Asseylum it`s a topical idealist princess The princess is far from typical, she ran out into a freaking battlefield in order to stop the war with her own hands. Yes she loves peace but she's not just wishing for it while being naive of the world. She understood her naivety and decided to go out and fight for the peace even if it meant risking her life..... which put her in a coma for 6 episodes. Inaho, god damn it where's Greyzones lengthy post of all the information that makes him far from plain I really don't want to type all that up so i'll just say this, there are so many subtle undertones to that character that for some reason so many people seem to miss, not pay attention to, or completely disregard and ignore. Inaho it`s the Kirito`s mecha pilot version . They are plane characters that the people like beacause they are the more powerful (too powerful , ludicrously) characters in his worlds At least Inaho hasn`t got a great harem . One point pro to Orange The princess in my understanding it`s typical , she hasn`t nothing resaltable . I think there are some characters more charismatics (like Slaine or Rayet) So being powerful equals to being like Kirito?Sigh. This is getting ridiculous. Be too powerful and not have personality it`s synonymous of ``Kirito´´ . Do you think that Kirito has any type of personality? He`s as plane as Inaho . Characters with 0 charisma You have no idea what charisma even is |
Feb 21, 2015 1:51 PM
#242
Dragon_Slayer_X said: TheGilgamesh said: Inaho is the Kirito`s mecha pilot version . They are plane characters that the people like beacause they are the more powerful (too powerful , ludicrously) characters in his worlds At least Inaho hasn`t got a great harem . One point pro to Orange The princess in my understanding it`s typical , she hasn`t nothing resaltable . I think there are some characters more charismatics (like Slaine or Rayet) So you hated the Genius kids in your class just because they were genius...........must have been a sad life. He didn't somehow win, he won with analysis and strategy........not by conviniently getting an OP mecha. If the Genius Kid has any type of personality I haven`t got anything against , but Kirito and Inaho haven`t a good personality |
Feb 21, 2015 1:51 PM
#243
PancakesAndStuff said: I find him the most interesting. Inaho being OP and somehow beating the "villian of the week" every time is just anti-climatic, and now that he's starting "smooth talk" like Kirito from SAO, it's starting to feel cringeworthy (ofc that's subjective). I'd much rather follow Slaine's story than follow Inaho's mundane formulaic path. Finding Slaine more intersting is fine, but don't come up with BS towards the other character to justify your reasoning. there were 4 mechs in season 1 containing 12 weeks worth of episodes. there have been a total of 3 mechs introduced (besides Slaines) in now 7 episodes and the tactics have completely changed. Do math right, that isn't even a new villian ever 2 weeks. Faulty criticism at it's finest. "smooth talk" like kirito? What are you even talking about, Inaho hasn't smooth talked anyone, unless you consider lengthy monologues on physics/tactics smooth talking now. |
Feb 21, 2015 1:51 PM
#244
Feb 21, 2015 1:52 PM
#245
KamiAlice said: She doesn't have amnesia though, she clearly remembers things, she's just fuzzy on the details. She remembered Inaho, the boy she saw the birds with, she just couldn't make out his name. That's not a cliche, it's a real life occurrence after being in a coma. they had a consultant who knows a little physics, or maybe they read "physics for dummies who are writing Anime"; hopefully they consulted on how coma recovery goes; like Soderburg consulted real virologists on "Contagion", and Scott apparently consulted ZERO scientists on "Prometheus". |
Feb 21, 2015 1:53 PM
#246
Dragon_Slayer_X said: No the stupid part is why can't we hate the Antagonist even if he is interesting/entertaining and like the Protagonist even if he seems dull TO YOU? Because he is a fictional character and it's useless to get personal feelings towards him, and he is created as a sort of a plot tool anyway? |
deadoptimistFeb 21, 2015 2:01 PM
Feb 21, 2015 1:53 PM
#247
Okay, the two things I'm most hoping for the next episode: 1. Count Desert/Music-man fakes loyalty to get close to Slaine, possibly getting the princess out. 2. Big fight where real consequences happen. -- Also, I got the strange feeling that Inko might be the one to die, maybe saving Inaho from something. She might feel bad for distrusting him, or it could simply be the result of her "secret" love. |
Feb 21, 2015 1:53 PM
#248
TheGilgamesh said: Dragon_Slayer_X said: TheGilgamesh said: Inaho is the Kirito`s mecha pilot version . They are plane characters that the people like beacause they are the more powerful (too powerful , ludicrously) characters in his worlds At least Inaho hasn`t got a great harem . One point pro to Orange The princess in my understanding it`s typical , she hasn`t nothing resaltable . I think there are some characters more charismatics (like Slaine or Rayet) So you hated the Genius kids in your class just because they were genius...........must have been a sad life. He didn't somehow win, he won with analysis and strategy........not by conviniently getting an OP mecha. If the Genius Kid has any type of personality I haven`t got anything against , but Kirito and Inaho haven`t a good personality Who died and made you an expert on "Personality"? Your subjective opinion isn't a fact......grow up. |
Feb 21, 2015 1:53 PM
#249
KamiAlice said: "smooth talk" like kirito? What are you even talking about, Inaho hasn't smooth talked anyone, unless you consider lengthy monologues on physics/tactics smooth talking now. Gravity-wave-stacking gettin' all the girls hot. |
Feb 21, 2015 1:54 PM
#250
Darklight0303 said: TheGilgamesh said: Raziel1991 said: TheGilgamesh said: KamiAlice said: TheGilgamesh said: Slaine it`s the best character in this anime (and the more interesting) . Inaho it`s plane and Asseylum it`s a topical idealist princess The princess is far from typical, she ran out into a freaking battlefield in order to stop the war with her own hands. Yes she loves peace but she's not just wishing for it while being naive of the world. She understood her naivety and decided to go out and fight for the peace even if it meant risking her life..... which put her in a coma for 6 episodes. Inaho, god damn it where's Greyzones lengthy post of all the information that makes him far from plain I really don't want to type all that up so i'll just say this, there are so many subtle undertones to that character that for some reason so many people seem to miss, not pay attention to, or completely disregard and ignore. Inaho it`s the Kirito`s mecha pilot version . They are plane characters that the people like beacause they are the more powerful (too powerful , ludicrously) characters in his worlds At least Inaho hasn`t got a great harem . One point pro to Orange The princess in my understanding it`s typical , she hasn`t nothing resaltable . I think there are some characters more charismatics (like Slaine or Rayet) So being powerful equals to being like Kirito?Sigh. This is getting ridiculous. Be too powerful and not have personality it`s synonymous of ``Kirito´´ . Do you think that Kirito has any type of personality? He`s as plane as Inaho . Characters with 0 charisma You have no idea what charisma even is Do you think that Kirito has charisma? Seriously? xD Lelouch has charisma , Kira o L have charisma , Izaya Orihara has charisma . Kumagawa (from Medaka Box) has charisma . Inaho and Kirito are plane characters that like beacuse they are ridiculously powerful wantonly (another example : Erza from Fairy Tail) |
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