Aldnoah.Zero 2nd Season Episode 3 Discussion

fathertime said:
quick question: Is asseylum actually dead with her body being preserved or is she simply in a coma?

Dragon_Slayer_X said:


She is in a coma.

Snakes said:
I guess I'm disliking this season as much as the first. I have no idea what is going on with this story telling - it feels all over the place and honestly just bad.

Snakes said:
I guess I'm disliking this season as much as the first. I have no idea what is going on with this story telling - it feels all over the place and honestly just bad.

Grey-Zone said:
Rushed. As I thought 2 cours are just not enough. Screw the industry for becoming so stubborn with only using 1-2 cours lately. I think this show could actually beat CG overall, if it had the same length, but we will never know. Even if A.Z will be successful enough for a continuation, it will not change the fact that it was rushed until now...

Still, even with that, I still think it does at least better than other original 2-cour shows like Guilty Crown, or Valvrave. But we will have to wait for the ending, because in the end, THAT will determine how pepole will view this series for all eternity.

eddo209 said:
People who feel bad for sleezbaum are psychopaths, seriously what's wrong with you.

-Klad- said:
B-but he's the only interesting character in the show. Was.

robis798 said:

You mean Slaine.

robis798 said:

You mean Slaine.

KamiAlice said:
I don't understand how people can dislike the entire first season, come back and watch the second season, and still come to the threads for the same damn show and waste their time more.

deadoptimist said:


The "discussion" around here is great. Trolls, fanboys, the illiterate, shipping warriors - every thread killer in one place. And one of the highest comment rates on MAL.

That's why I give my 800th comment to his thread! ^_^/

Grey-Zone said:
So many people are "tsundere" towards A.Z ^^

"It-... It's not like I want to continue to watch this show, or anything, Ba-... BAKAAAA!"

Megaphy said:
I'm starting to hate this fandom a lot.

Raziel1991 said:
The thing is that right now killing Saazbaum is pointless since he was no longer interested in taking Asseylums life

KamiAlice said:

I don't understand how people can dislike the entire first season, come back and watch the second season, and still come to the threads for the same damn show and waste their time more.
Tsundere's are everywhere nowadays.

Megaphy said:
I don't know what you're all bitching about, Slaine rose to power in the matter of minutes even though he is a terran. How is he an idiot?
I'm starting to hate this fandom a lot.

nina4life said:


I didn't like 1st season of psycho-pass, thought it had a good idea, but fell flat on execution. I also disliked some other things, but you get general idea what I mean.
When 2nd season started I decided to watch it and actually enjoyed it quite a bit.

Sometimes people feel there's potential in something so they stick to it. I was defending this show for a long, long time, hoping Inaho is going to get development and background story.
None of that happened so I just enjoy this show as mindless fun.

It's not being tsundere, it's "not hating something and hoping it might get better".

Darklight0303 said:


It was hardly his own scheme. The only reason he did it was because he failed to kill Inaho with his trap and Sazbaum got caught in it instead. So really he doesn't deserve any credit for random chance and no actually planning.

Megaphy said:

Correction - it was intended for both of them. The fact that he specified Inaho as the target out of the two doesn't mean anything. He explained that he expected him to dodge it anyway.

Megaphy said:

Correction - it was intended for both of them. The fact that he specified Inaho as the target out of the two doesn't mean anything. He explained that he expected him to dodge it anyway.

awditty said:


Only if she stays comatose;

my suggestion that Slaine's doping her up's probably wrong - Slaine's trying to revive her and knew that her waking up completely wrecks (would have wrecked) Saazbaum's plans.

Darklight0303 said:
I suggest reading this http://darklight0303.tumblr.com/post/109273315895/fabelyn-since-ive-seen-some-doubts-regarding This proves that it was nothing but luck and impulse.

seujair31 said:

The deuteragonist is the worst mecha pilot of all time.
He is the most dependent on Sterna factors to win a battle, A super mecha, with super speed, and can predict the future, and the servant Harklight, which makes the calculations for him, makes tactical battles and plans.
Another he did not expect his mecha predicted for him, everything that happens with Slaine deuteragonist is the work luckily.

Megaphy said:

I'm not going to argue because both scenarios seem viable to me. Still, calling a character stupid for not acting like you would like him to is stupid.


I'm trying to understand what you'd like to explain, but I get your point I guess. Let's not forget though that Inaho pilots a normal mecha and still kicks the ass of all super mechas like it's a piece of cake.

seujair31 said:
Inaho is Odin, a god drank well of Mimir and knowledge gained at the expense of his eye, he also rides Sleipnir
Slaine was referenced to be Loki in a way due to taking sides here and there, and also because his original nickname was "Bat"

HopeLight said:


Do you know anything about Norse mythology? It's pretty obvious Slaine's Freya, the goddess who can use divination and is more or less Odin's equal in commanding forces of the fallen warriors, who uses political guile too to manipulate the things on her favor (and only has loyalty to one person, her husband, even if sometimes cheats on him). Her talisman is really similar to Slaine's memento too. She's also portrayed winged or connected to birds and winged animals like Slaine is. Before anyone even brings up the gender difference, Tyr, a male god, was the equivalent of Yuki.

Loki seems to be Lemrina who is a real wildcard in this who plays 'pranks' that could be mean spirited (she's been doing this for two episodes) and has a rivalry with the purer than snow well loved character whose death starts the end of the world: Baldr (clearly the boring older princess equivalent). Loki never hated Odin, he hated Baldr and wanted him dead. Lemrina's denouncement and bitterness of everyone's sins in a cynical way remind me to Loki in the Lokasenna.

Cinza-Zone said:
My speculation from the material at hand:

- Consume Royal blood -> nothing (Terran experiments)
- Some "sort of" Kiss with Royalty -> 1-time-use activation factor (Slaine, 2 times)
- First the "kiss" then the blood -> (possibly) unlimited-use activation factor (Inaho)

matias067 said:
Slaine could see further in future about the gravitational bullets trajectory? I thought it was just merely split seconds?

seujair31 said:


I agree with you, I think Slaine received the activation factor, when he was rescued by Saazbaum of Cruhteo hand, Slaine was taken to a room to take care of his wounds, he probably received the factor there, so Saazbaum released him in front of Tharsis, wondering which side he would choose, Saazbaum knew he had the power to activation, so the left in front of Tharsis.
Probably Saazbaum, had samples of Aldnoah power, taken from Lemrina, who was on the moon base, it was applied while Slaine was unconscious, receiving treatment after the ridiculous SM torture with whip, this explains why Saazbaum, released him in front of Tharsis.

What poblema that Irenesharda, he goes on to say that Slaine is the most popular character in the anime when he is not, he will be not attend other forums, the world, to see such rejection Slaine has for the world.
It is based on nonsense Tess, strength in others, to own Tess dropped the anime, after recognizing what she spoke was bullshit
another thing is ridiculous to want to compare Aldnoah.Zero with Anime Madoka, when genres are completely different

Knight-Artorias said:


I thought this was said a million fuckin time already?!
Slaine got his activation factor when he was rescued from Seylum when he crashed his pod into the caslte NOT after he got whipped by Cruhteo then saved by Saaz.

seujair31 said:


because then Saazbaum, led him to where was Tharsis,
and released him there, and he had to make the choice, It is clear that Saazbaum knew Slaine had the activating factor, otherwise he never would lead him to where was Tharsis,
And because both Yuki, as Lemrina, gave emphasis the word blood.
Because Deucalion remained active, and Slaine lost their right to activation, and Lemrina had to give le again, and Inaho not lost.
Simple key is blood,

because then Saazbaum, led him to where was Tharsis,
and released him there, and he had to make the choice, It is clear that Saazbaum knew Slaine had the activating factor, otherwise he never would lead him to where was Tharsis,
And because both Yuki, as Lemrina, gave emphasis the word blood.
Because Deucalion remained active, and Slaine lost their right to activation, and Lemrina had to give le again, and Inaho not lost.
Simple key is blood,

Who ensures that Saazbaum, did nothing to Slaine when he was unconscious, reason why it loose Slaine exactly where Tharssis was saved

Iazrien said:


What I mean is that the blood which expired on Inaho is fresh blood, or whether this with all proteins, after a certain period, it begins to deteriorate, and if they did the princess of the blood of the study that was in Inaho's face, since it would have taken a while, and he probably would have deteriorated, being difficult to analyze, unless before they had drawn blood of own prince, the more I think the studies were carried through, the blood which was in Inaho face
It was actually determined blood is NOT the factor to activating aldnoah in this episode they mentioned how they took the blood samples from the princess and it gave no effect towards activating aldnoah. That also reinforce that point when Inaho questions if it is wise to go into battle since if he dies the ship goes down but the captain is pretty much like if you want to battle then by all means do so.

seujair31 said:


More blood which expired on Inaho was fresh, and had breathed the princess, it may be that the time taken blood may be a factor, unlike those frozen bloods to sample,
you know that after a long time the blood begins to deteriorate, and it may be that the blood samples had already not good
so why Slaine could no longer activate Tharssis, he was the one who had no damage. may be that saliva + permanent activation of blood, because the Light Aldnoah so shone in Inaho after the blood going into your mouth, strange this anime is full of holes, the inves esplicar of things, they waste time on cheap dramas can also.

if the HIV virus can not survive outside the body, because the aldnoah factor survive, after long periods, ie the blood Inaho, absorbed along with the tear Yuki, was resent fresh.
the samples could have this deterioras due to the long period until you reach a place where Inaho was operated.

Cinza-Zone said:
WTF? At least make sure to not google-translate my name in the quote! It's G-r-e-y - Zone, not "Cinza-Zone"

You should stop using machine-translation altogether and learn English instead. In many cases you completely misread what we even write :/

leelee619 said:


I See a problem with this comment, Slaine Planned to Kill Saazbaum to Avenge the (attempted) Murder of Asseylum

Monad said:


Don't bother. Slaine makes as much sense as a spaghetti monster eating tofu.
So he didn't fully allied with the guy that tried to kill his precious princess. Fine that will have make him sensible then if he didn't insist in his "hate earthlings" campaign that makes no sense since it was the dream of Saazbaum not his and he supposedly showed that his not loyal to him this episode. So if his only loyal to the princess then wtf.
First the guy is from earth himself so wtf.
Second he knows very well that earthlings never tried to harm his precious princess and actually protected her while his "father" tried to kill her.
Third the ones are attacking and being aggressive and assholes until now were always the Martians so he can't claim that his stance is some excuse for how aggressive earth was.
Fourth, his precious little princess that he adores loves earth and wanted peace with earth and even sided with them in the war so his going against the wishes of the person he supposedly wants to serve.
Fifth, in the first season he even tried to stop the war by going to the king and now he wants to make even more war while the earth has done nothing that will excuse his change of stance. They have simply been on the defense from the start.

So what is this irrational behavior he follows?
Or has this became a vindictive game to him against Inaho(who he hardly knows) just because he became jealous the princess spend sometime with him?
Is that all it is? He wants to destroy his own people, commit genocide and crash the dreams of the person his supposedly loves just because the guy in the orange mech that hardly even knows, annoys him? Is this guy serious?

Mónada said:


Don't bother. Slaine makes as much sense as a spaghetti monster eating tofu.
So he didn't fully allied with the guy that tried to kill his precious princess. Fine that will have make him sensible then if he didn't insist in his "hate earthlings" campaign that makes no sense since it was the dream of Saazbaum not his and he supposedly showed that his not loyal to him this episode. So if his only loyal to the princess then wtf.
First the guy is from earth himself so wtf.
Second he knows very well that earthlings never tried to harm his precious princess and actually protected her while his "father" tried to kill her.
Third the ones are attacking and being aggressive and assholes until now were always the Martians so he can't claim that his stance is some excuse for how aggressive earth was.
Fourth, his precious little princess that he adores loves earth and wanted peace with earth and even sided with them in the war so his going against the wishes of the person he supposedly wants to serve.
Fifth, in the first season he even tried to stop the war by going to the king and now he wants to make even more war while the earth has done nothing that will excuse his change of stance. They have simply been on the defense from the start.

So what is this irrational behavior he follows?
Or has this became a vindictive game to him against Inaho(who he hardly knows) just because he became jealous the princess spend sometime with him?
Is that all it is? He wants to destroy his own people, commit genocide and crash the dreams of the person his supposedly loves just because the guy in the orange mech that hardly even knows, annoys him? Is this guy serious?

CookingPriest said:


It pretty much is implied Slaine now has same goal as Snazzybums had(see: previous ep). He litterally has identical role to S1 Snazzybums now.

Which is:
1. Use Princess name and situation against her will to fuel the war.
2. Commit genocide on Earth and take over earth.
3. Use the resources of Earth to stage a coup on mars and implement communism.

He most likely is delusional enough to believe that he is fulfilling the Princess dream of peace that way.

Which is bound to turn out great considering by doing what he is doing he is pretty much spitting at everything she stood for.

Mónada said:
seujair31 dude. Seriously how did my profile name changed to Monada after you quoted me, lol. Also sorry to break it to you but google translate doesn't do as good of a job as you think. Study more English so you can write at least on an understandable level because right now it's hard to make sense of what you write, all i got is that you probably agree with me.
But the quote was understandable enough and a great quote indeed. I have heard it before and i agree.



So basically the guy is completely wacko.

Why the hell does he dream of some communism utopia for the Martian people?
Even if whatever system he dreams to implement actually works for the Martian people it doesn't change the fact that he butchers his own people to achieve it.
At least Saazbaum was a Martian and had an excuse for not caring for the people on earth. But this guy? What is his excuse for considering their lives less important that the Martian poor guys?
And is not like Martians treated him so well that he feels so connected to them he forgot his lineage. Just in this episode alone we saw how racist against him they are and how they keep reminding him of where he came from.
Why have empathy for the low class Martians but not for the people on earth?

The fact that he also follows the dream of the guy he just murdered while he crashes the dream of the person he murdered him for, also adds to his complete insanity.