Do you believe anime is objectifying all women?
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| Perhaps, I can hardly find people from 2010 to 2012... :c There was guy, Yume something... He was true no lifer... :c I miss him |
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| Yume the virgin guy that had tons of ecchi and shit? He's been permanently banned if I'm not mistaken and now he went to Tumblr and has become partially insane. |
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Immahnoob said: Yume the virgin guy that had tons of ecchi and shit? He's been permanently banned if I'm not mistaken and now he went to Tumblr and has become partially insane. LOOOOOL I will not continue to pollute this thread with irrelevant things. MEssage me details about other people from that time xD Or just leave it on my profile. |
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dustinator1991 said: Surely there's a difference between trolling and joking, as if the "literally physically harming fictional characters" and contradictory actions weren't giveaways already.Zalis said: It's not only objectifying them, it's also literally raping, molesting, sexually-harassing, street-harassing, catcalling, damselizing, slut-shaming, victim-blaming, infantilizing, Orientalizing, Occidentalizing, idealizing, mansplaining, whitesplaining, Asiansplaining, and ghettoizing them. #DestroyTheTousantriarchy #CancelAnime #YesAllFictionalDrawnWomen notyour2dwaifu.tumblr.com That isn't even necessary. Men are being objectifying as well in Anime. So it's double standard. P.S. I just read your profile and you watch anime. So right now you are being a troll. |
misunderstxxxd said: I agree that there are only a handful of girls in anime I actually like, like Morgiana from Magi and Erza from Fairy Tail but I won't blame the companies who produce them. Maybe they appeal to a broader audience so authors continue to make them act and look a center way. Though I HATE a weak heroine. I couldn't stand Kagome from InuYasha and Sakura from Naruto. I would happily have those characters banned. Japan likes what they like. And they will continue making it. They are appealing to mainly their audience in Japan but others are enjoying it. But other people should not complain in the slightest but the culture is different in Japan vs. the other parts of the world. But people are becoming ignorant of that fact. |
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Syndiciate said: Look guys the answer to the OP's question is: YES. Now does it matter? NO. We're done here. People don't have to watch it. They can turn their tv off and watch something else. The culture in Japan is not trying to appeal to other parts of the world. |
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kikohunter said: Not only women it objectifies men and homosexuals for the sake of enjoyment too so really the problem is fanservice being used as a means to sell their products. As long as it stays on the mediocre harems idolshit and stuff like that I'm fine with it even though it's still cancer. I just don't want it creeping in good shows. I know what you mean. There are some good harem shows that have some good merit. Such as High School DxD, Freezing, Sekeri, etc. |
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MrLief said: Of course women are objectified in anime, they're hardly even characters pretty much just sexual objects. What Japan sees is different than other parts of the world. They like what they like. And our culture is vastly different than theirs. But others are not seeing eye to eye though. |
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Rance-sama said: Anime is objectifying men! Damn anime! Yes men as well are being treated as the same. |
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akutasame94 said: In anime and manga both genders are objectified, it's as simple as that. Japan as a country is also a bit old fashioned at the time. Sure women have equal rights, but it is still greatly believed that men should take care of family as far as protection goes and financial status, and women should be there to support men. Not too common in these times, but undertones of that belief are still present. Also no one wants to watch ugly women (be it drawn or real) in shows. And sexual things always turn out funny or if the goal is to be pervy, then yah everything is sexualized... Anyway, best examples of why this is biased are hentai shows... So many of the shows where girls use guys... Of course there are same shows for females. Also worth noting that laws about sexual things in Japan are a bit different. I can agree with you on that. I recently went to South Korea and I seen what you said. Men taking care of the woman, etc. And yes, the culture is different in Japan but others are failing to understand and make ignorant opinions based on anime they don't like. Which simply can be fixed by turning the tv off. |
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emoblossom123 said: I'm a girl, but I'm gonna be honest here. I'd rather watch a pretty anime chick (maybe with some cute flaws like bushy eyebrows or a moe mole) than a fat one. It's better for my eyes. And I'm not even the best looking person out there. I could certainly lose some weight myself. At least you are being honest with yourself. Some girls aren't. But some people get jealous and are trying to watch the world burn. |
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That isn't even necessary. Men are being objectifying as well in Anime. So it's double standard. P.S. I just read your profile and you watch anime. So right now you are being a troll.[/quote] Surely there's a difference between trolling and joking, as if the "literally physically harming fictional characters" and contradictory actions weren't giveaways already.[/quote] Yes, I know there is an difference of trolling and joking. But there is an time and place for that. But when you love something, you will take a stand for it. |
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| Use the fucking edit button. |
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Immahnoob said: This.Use the fucking edit button. |
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| Everybody has their preferences. Until it is scientifically proved and accepted by the vast majority of the medical community that those said animes contribute *heavily* to law breaking, people's freedom shouldn't be taken away. That is just tyranny. |
Ishikami said: Everybody has their preferences. Until it is scientifically proved and accepted by the vast majority of the medical community that those said animes contribute *heavily* to law breaking, people's freedom shouldn't be taken away. That is just tyranny. We have freedoms and making Anime are one of those. |
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dustinator1991 said: But I do take a stand for it -- by mocking and ridiculing the feminists and SJWs that want to play thought police and censor anime.Yes, I know there is an difference of trolling and joking. But there is an time and place for that. But when you love something, you will take a stand for it. immahnoob said: Also the fucking ctrl+C / ctrl+V buttons, if you want to quote multiple people. Have you ever seen anybody else octuple posting around here to reply to multiple people?Use the fucking edit button. |
Zalis said: dustinator1991 said: But I do take a stand for it -- by mocking and ridiculing the feminists and SJWs that want to play thought police and censor anime.Yes, I know there is an difference of trolling and joking. But there is an time and place for that. But when you love something, you will take a stand for it. immahnoob said: Also the fucking ctrl+C / ctrl+v buttons, if you want to quote multiple people. Have you ever seen anybody else octuple posting around here to reply to multiple people?Use the fucking edit button. maybe you need to learn to use the edit button. edit: you did and fixed it |
| Meh... I hate the 'senseless objectification against X group' argument, but it's undeniable that there is quite a gratuitous amount of bullshit set in the general portrayal of women in anime... But the fact that most people seemingly gloss over is that it happens to a lot of non-normalized demographics, so quibbling over the pain ONE demographic 'feels' is self-centered and stupid. Arguing ageism in anime would be much more valid than arguing sexism and female objectification. |
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| They're after our video games Now they're attacking our anime too. These people have no interest in the medium they want to change, that's a fact. Oh, was a joke, but be careful, something like this will bound to come up again when the SJW's are sick of bitching about video games. |
Pram20XXJan 4, 2015 12:22 AM
lol. omg i just noticed that you're RinArcher, i was wondering where did you disappear |
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SpaceHamster said: Okashi_sama said: lol. I edited my comment years ago but the forum lag decided to use my old text for your quote. Only on MAL. lol. Sasuga MAL. |
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| I think the concept of "objectify" itself is stupid. What people think or not is their problem, and until it leads to a crime, or it is scientifically proved and accepted by the majority of the scientific community that it will certainly lead to one, you shouldn't stick your snob nose. Go PMS far away. Also the answer "Men are also objectified" is stupid too, since that is no reason to keep doing something. |
| The answer is so but both sides sound like retards. Men and women are equal okay. |
 Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
| LOL. What a useless petition. |
| When will people understand that objectifying women or men is impossible in Anime considering there are no men or women in Anime. |
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Immahnoob said: Pretty much, they are all pixels anyway.When will people understand that objectifying women or men is impossible in Anime considering there are no men or women in Anime. |
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| Zalis said: But I do take a stand for it -- by mocking and ridiculing the feminists and SJWs that want to play thought police and censor anime. I see your conducting reasoning right there. It is flawless. |
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| Possibly the stupidest thread I seen on here in a long time. |
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YandereTheEmo said: Meh... I hate the 'senseless objectification against X group' argument, but it's undeniable that there is quite a gratuitous amount of bullshit set in the general portrayal of women in anime... But the fact that most people seemingly gloss over is that it happens to a lot of non-normalized demographics, so quibbling over the pain ONE demographic 'feels' is self-centered and stupid. Arguing ageism in anime would be much more valid than arguing sexism and female objectification. There will always be a group of people to start a senseless debate. People like starting ruckus. They like becoming the victim so their life doesn’t seem as pointless. Some feminists, not saying all of them but have an issue with men. Saying all men do the same. In fact, that isn’t true. There are nice and kind men. And to shine some light on their bubble, there are women who act life men. So it’s double standard but feminists ignore this fact, to better validate their argument and win. Also, in every culture, women are portrayed differently. In the Middle East, you can have multiple wives. America, women have rights and freedoms. China, the son is the sole care/provider of his parents when they get old. There are so many different views in every society. Some women are people ignorant of this fact and applying their own culture onto theirs. That itself is foolish. You can’t expect one society to behave like another. To each his own, as the saying goes. Japan have their views on their society. They treat their women like princesses and put them on a pedestal. Anime is a big part of Japan. It is mainly directed toward their audiences, they don’t care about the outside world hating it or not. They will continue doing what they love and that is making anime. I agree with you, people fail to understand anime isn’t reality. People try to treat anime as if it is real. It is purely fiction and should be treated as such. There is no gender. Just characters that have stories tied to them. Hmm, yes Ageism would be a better topic to talk about rather than the objectification of women because it happens to men as well. |
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Celestia-L20XX said: They're after our video games Now they're attacking our anime too. These people have no interest in the medium they want to change, that's a fact. Oh, was a joke, but be careful, something like this will bound to come up again when the SJW's are sick of bitching about video games. Hmm, interesting. Yes they want change and don't care what they are talking about in the progress. |
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SpaceHamster said: Celestia-L20XX said: They're after our video games Now they're attacking our anime too. These people have no interest in the medium they want to change, that's a fact. Oh, was a joke, but be careful, something like this will bound to come up again when the SJW's are sick of bitching about video games. Don't worry, they're to busy complaining about a Scientist's shirt and how sexist it is for women everywhere. I think anime is on their low priority list for now, so we're safe. I just read the article. It is sad they are ignoring the fact that scientists did something amazing and went to space. Instead, they are worrying about what shirt he is wearing. What happened to freedom of expression? It seems our freedoms are being oppressed and slowing dying away.. |
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Ishikami said: I think the concept of "objectify" itself is stupid. What people think or not is their problem, and until it leads to a crime, or it is scientifically proved and accepted by the majority of the scientific community that it will certainly lead to one, you shouldn't stick your snob nose. Go PMS far away. Also the answer "Men are also objectified" is stupid too, since that is no reason to keep doing something. Well the concept is stupid but people will find reason to find regardless, no matter what people say or no to stop them. When someone believes in something, they will fight for the very last breath that they have. Also, when people think that others “think” a certain way, they want to change that, no matter what the costs. If it is the cost of anime or some other form of medium, these group of people don’t care what they have to destroy to get the public’s view in their eye. I agree. Just because both sides are treated with the double standard, it doesn’t make it right. But there are people that will continue doing that, thinking one is better than the other. It won’t stop until the human race is exterminated |
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black1blade said: The answer is so but both sides sound like retards. Men and women are equal okay. If only everyone saw it like that. It would be too easy. But life is not easy. |
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Landos said: Possibly the stupidest thread I seen on here in a long time. How's it stupid? |
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dustinator1991 said: Landos said: Possibly the stupidest thread I seen on here in a long time. How's it stupid? Read the first sentence. Done. |
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| Landos said: Read the first sentence. Done. I see. So you can't even explain how it is stupid. Where is your opinion at? An opinion should be used to explain why you think an certain way. But you didn't. You can say it is stupid all you want but without an opinion, it means nothing. |
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dustinator1991 said: Landos said: Read the first sentence. Done. I see. So you can't even explain how it is stupid. Where is your opinion at? An opinion should be used to explain why you think an certain way. But you didn't. You can say it is stupid all you want but without an opinion, it means nothing. Whatever gets you up in the morning. |
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| Landos said: Whatever gets you up in the morning. I saw that you said, "it is your petition." That is before you edited it. It is not my petition. I called this petition stupid. |
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dustinator1991 said: Landos said: Whatever gets you up in the morning. I saw that you said, "it is your petition." That is before you edited it. It is not my petition. I called this petition stupid. Whatever gets you up in the morning. |
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Landos said: dustinator1991 said: Landos said: I saw that you said, "it is your petition." That is before you edited it. It is not my petition. I called this petition stupid. Whatever gets you up in the morning. That is all you have to say. No opinion at all. And you keep repeating yourself. |
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| Yes, some anime does objectify women. Some are incredibly misogynistic, too. However, I don't think these shows should be banned or censored. It would be better to just be aware of when women (and men) are being objectified or maltreated so that we don't fall into the trap of seeing this behavior as normal or acceptable in real life. |
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dustinator1991 said: Landos said: Whatever gets you up in the morning. That is all you have to say. No opinion at all. And you keep repeating yourself. You sound irritated. Good to know my post ruffled your jimmies. |
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| Landos said: You sound irritated. Good to know my post ruffled your jimmies. Sorry to say, your post did not upset me. Your lost. |
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j0x said: sex sells so ye make those 2D girls an object of sexual fantasies From the way you said that, I can tell that you are totally joking. |
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| No, it's not. Well, it sometimes does but it goes both ways. |
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klooha said: No, it's not. Well, it sometimes does but it goes both ways. It is double standard. |
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| As with all media, sometimes. All lot of that fanservice-harem schlock that comes out one season and is forgotten the next I would certainly call objectifying. But all anime? Certainly not. There are plenty of shows that handle their female characters just fine without any sort of objectification, such as Kuragehime, FMA/Brotherhood, and Gatchaman Crowds, to name a few. |
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