| They certainly attract preverts. |
| "Let Justice Be Done!" My Theme Fight again, fight again for justice! |
RedRoseFring said: I fap to lolis for purely platonic reasons. You're crazy.They certainly attract preverts. |
 |
| No, they give it a good reputation. Loli/shota, is like the epitome of humanity |
 |
| Why do you think so? The fact you despise it doesn't mean it drags down the medium. It's just there to have a massive variety of genres. You can call them as the "dark" side of anime if you want, it won't harm anyone or anything |
All anime need plot bruh.  |
 |
| lolis and wincest are some of the greatest things ever invented anime just wouldn't be the same without it, hell it's even one of the the main reasons it stands out so much in a way |
  |
| YES they give anime a horrible reputation they need to go away ASAP. Its already hard enough to get people into anime. Trying to find person number 16. Those things is the definition of trash. |
 |
-Klad- said: Why do you think so? The fact you despise it doesn't mean it drags down the medium. It's just there to have a massive variety of genres. You can call them as the "dark" side of anime if you want, it won't harm anyone or anything I think it's fine if it's in it but it has definitely made it difficult to introduce it to others, the general view of people that don't watch anime is impacted pretty heavily by this |
idipyoudipwedip said: No.unfortunately accurate Fierce_Deity22 said: Also no.YES they give anime a horrible reputation they need to go away ASAP. Its already hard enough to get people into anime. Trying to find person number 16. Those things is the definition of trash. OT: -Klad- said: If by dark side you mean the best side, then you're right.Why do you think so? The fact you despise it doesn't mean it drags down the medium. It's just there to have a massive variety of genres. You can call them as the "dark" side of anime if you want, it won't harm anyone or anything |
idipyoudipwedip said: Uninformed people are stupid to begin with. Non-gamers assume Call of Duty is a school shooting simulator and GTA promotes rape and murder. You'll never win with people who purposely blind themselves in the face of the unknown.-Klad- said: Why do you think so? The fact you despise it doesn't mean it drags down the medium. It's just there to have a massive variety of genres. You can call them as the "dark" side of anime if you want, it won't harm anyone or anything I think it's fine if it's in it but it has definitely made it difficult to introduce it to others, the general view of people that don't watch anime is impacted pretty heavily by this |
|
| having incest and cute little girls is bad. having lots of killing, sex, and dark gore-y stuff is good. amirite? xD |
| Anime fans give anime a bad reputation. |
 |
Okashi_sama said: idipyoudipwedip said: No.unfortunately accurate Fierce_Deity22 said: Also no.YES they give anime a horrible reputation they need to go away ASAP. Its already hard enough to get people into anime. Trying to find person number 16. Those things is the definition of trash. OT: -Klad- said: If by dark side you mean the best side, then you're right.Why do you think so? The fact you despise it doesn't mean it drags down the medium. It's just there to have a massive variety of genres. You can call them as the "dark" side of anime if you want, it won't harm anyone or anything I gave my reason why what's yours. Journey_95 said: -Klad- said: Why do you think so? The fact you despise it doesn't mean it drags down the medium. It's just there to have a massive variety of genres. You can call them as the "dark" side of anime if you want, it won't harm anyone or anything but don't you agree that it drags down the medium? the problem is that its so normal in Animes in general sure if there was only incest in hentai I still wouldn't like it BUT I would be ok with it because there is plenty of taboo stuff in normal porn too just imagine a tv show or movie with incest or lolicon stuff in it? I know its not a response to me, but I believe it brings down the medium. |
|
| It's not the content but the obsessive fans that drag it down. |
 |
Hoppy said: It's not the content but the obsessive fans that drag it down. I haven't even begon to mention the shitty fanbases of these shows. Oh gosh. Some of them are absolute freaks. My pales was walking to a comic con vendor and this guys lolicon nude doll fall out of his backpack in front of us. He licked his fingers and proceeded to clean the doll wtf............. |
|
Fierce_Deity22 said: I gave my reason why what's yours. No they don't. you should blame the obsessive fans, and people who judge an entire medium based on some cherry-picked bad examples. |
Fierce_Deity22 said: That man really respects his loli merchandise. As should you.Hoppy said: It's not the content but the obsessive fans that drag it down. I haven't even begon to mention the shitty fanbases of these shows. Oh gosh. Some of them are absolute freaks. My pales was walking to a comic con vendor and this guys lolicon nude doll fall out of his backpack in front of us. He licked his fingers and proceeded to clean the doll wtf............. |
|
| I have 3 lolis as my top fav characters. Why? Because they are lolis. Fierce_Deity22 said: Hoppy said: It's not the content but the obsessive fans that drag it down. I haven't even begon to mention the shitty fanbases of these shows. Oh gosh. Some of them are absolute freaks. My pales was walking to a comic con vendor and this guys lolicon nude doll fall out of his backpack in front of us. He licked his fingers and proceeded to clean the doll wtf............. I think that's the spookiest story I've ever heard of. |
 |
Fierce_Deity22 said: Hoppy said: It's not the content but the obsessive fans that drag it down. I haven't even begon to mention the shitty fanbases of these shows. Oh gosh. Some of them are absolute freaks. My pales was walking to a comic con vendor and this guys lolicon nude doll fall out of his backpack in front of us. He licked his fingers and proceeded to clean the doll wtf............. Similar things happen at comiket each season and every now and then some other conventions not even related to anime like Bronycon. |
|
| I don't mind serious incest stories like Koi Kaze but that's very rare exception. Lolicon/shotacon/ecchi and other fetishes are what plague modern anime and should just die out. They don't bring anything positive and only damage the image of the medium. Hoppy said: It's not the content but the obsessive fans that drag it down. Not quite right. The content (in this case those fetishes) exits because there is a demand for it. They did not exist 20-30 years ago and anime was just fine without them. Those obsessive fans (how you call them) are the reason why we have to tolerate that crap. |
 |
Journey_95 said: It's literal fap heaven after all. Can't find that anywhere else. The real life equivalents aren't exactly an option since they're both disgusting and illegal :sHaXXspetten said: lolis and wincest are some of the greatest things ever invented anime just wouldn't be the same without it, hell it's even one of the the main reasons it stands out so much in a way please be joking.. |
| |
Journey_95 said: Haseo666 said: I don't mind serious incest stories like Koi Kaze but that's very rare exception. Lolicon/shotacon/ecchi and other fetishes are what plague modern anime and should just die out. They don't bring anything positive and only damage the image of the medium. Not quite right. The content (in this case those fetishes) exits because there is demand for them. They did not exist 20-30 years ago and anime was just fine without them. Those obsessive fans how you call them are the reason why we have to tolerate that crap. I haven't been that long in Anime so it's good to hear that stuff like that didn't exist before hopefully it will die out like you said Sadly enough, I don't think it will die out soon... |
 |
Haseo666 said: Yeah lolis didn't exist 20-30 years ago. It was just children, just good ole, wholesome naked children.Not quite right. The content (in this case those fetishes) exits because there is demand for them. They did not exist 20-30 years ago and anime was just fine without them. Those obsessive fans how you call them are the reason why we have to tolerate that crap.  |
|
| Not really, atleast that is my opinion. |
 |
Journey_95 said: ^ yeah right.. of course you forgot to include the real Pictures for Anime now He did include real pictures of anime now. |
Rakaxo said: Journey_95 said: I haven't been that long in Anime so it's good to hear that stuff like that didn't exist before hopefully it will die out like you said Oh they did exist back then. http://myanimelist.net/anime/4813/Lolita_Anime http://myanimelist.net/anime/3644/Uchiyama_Aki http://myanimelist.net/anime/3649/Bishoujo_Comic_Lolicon_Angel:_Mitsu_no_Aji Well I was refering to anime not hentai (even though its anime as well). Sure there were hentai even back then but the approach to these "fetishes" was very different from modern anime. Modern ecchi anime are way more perverse and twisted compared to hentai 20 years ago. And modern hentai can't be even compared to old school hentai. |
|
| Loli is a gift from god and if you don't like the super hardcore stuff don't read or watch it, I'm content with the multitude of vanilla and romantic loli content. |
|
Okashi_sama said: Journey_95 said: ^ yeah right.. of course you forgot to include the real Pictures for Anime now He did include real pictures of anime now. he was talking about how he didnt include the perverted pictures of now. At the end of the day that "anime then" is no where near as bad as the stuff you can find out now. btwFMA came out over a decade ago. |
|
Fierce_Deity22 said: Okashi_sama said: He did include real pictures of anime now. he was talking about how he didnt include the perverted pictures of now. At the end of the day that "anime then" is no where near as bad as the stuff you can find out now. btwFMA came out over a decade ago. So he should cherry pick some bad scenes just to prove OP right? mmmmky |
| Even if all loli/shota/incest were purged, it wouldn't matter all that much. It would barely budge the needle of popular perception, because ignorant normals will always be ignorant normals. Anime will always be "them weird foreign cartoons" that break people's molds of what a cartoon "should" be, and will thus be judged as deviant. Even when I was watching nothing but the nearly completely innocent Sailor Moon (including the censored dub version of the first two seasons, at that!), one of my roommates still said I was watching "Japanoporn." If we really wanted to make anime Western-mainstream-acceptable, we'd also have to remove more mature, non-blood-related sexuality (e.g. Mnemosyne, Black Lagoon, Moonlight Mile, Ghost in the Shell, the whole hentai genre) too, as well as characteristically "Japanese" elements like manga-style reaction faces, above-average-sized eyes, school uniforms, and unusual or exotic genres. Better make it all kids' shows and foul-mouthed reference comedies to be safe; but I don't think it's worth destroying everything that makes anime unique and interesting to "save" it. |
| I think that's only apply in some animes like OreImo |
Shirobako is AOTY 2015. Deal with it. |
Rakaxo said: Haseo666 said: Well I was refering to anime not hentai (even though its anime as well). Sure there were hentai even back then but the approach to these "fetishes" was very different from modern anime. Modern ecchi anime are way more perverse and twisted compared to hentai 20 years ago. And modern hentai can't be even compared to old school hentai. People will probably say the same thing about 10 or 20 years. Things gets outdated after many years. Remember seeing a hentai called Cool Devices for 10 or 11 years ago because people did say it was one of the sickest shit ever animated, i did ever heard rumor about a anime critic even did throw up after watching it. I did watch and found it pretty disturbing, but now not that much. The anime industry can be sicker and most of the loli shit we see today wont be as uncomfortable as the lolis in the future. I have to agree completely with this unfortunately and its what I was trying to convey. |
|
| Certainly. Let's get rid of the only thing that's keeping it alive. That would do well for the future of anime. Also, "bad reputation"? Tentacle hentai give anime a bad reputation, lolicon/shotacon is something that's within the fandom. And anime is nowhere near the popularity of the more popular TV shows or movies. It's a niche market for a reason. |
 |
Okashi_sama said: I was actually just disproving the notion that older anime could do no wrong. The "anime now" part is irrelevant, I accept and embrace the existence of lolis.Fierce_Deity22 said: he was talking about how he didnt include the perverted pictures of now. At the end of the day that "anime then" is no where near as bad as the stuff you can find out now. btwFMA came out over a decade ago. So he should cherry pick some bad scenes just to prove OP right? mmmmky |
|
Ratohnhaketon said: I was actually just disproving the notion that older anime could do no wrong. The "anime now" part is irrelevant, I accept and embrace the existence of lolis. Yeah, i know. but this whole thread is about cherry picking anyway. I also accept and embrace the existence of lolis. |
Okashi_sama said: Ratohnhaketon said: I was actually just disproving the notion that older anime could do no wrong. The "anime now" part is irrelevant, I accept and embrace the existence of lolis. Yeah, i know. but this whole thread is about cherry picking anyway. I also accept and embrace the existence of lolis. Well I still don't. Lolicon (ロリコン ?), also romanised as lolikon or rorikon, is Japanese discourse or media focusing on the attraction to young or prepubescent girls. How can it focus on the attraction of something that is not attractive. :^/ |
|
| Yes, if a person was to only look at anime on a surface level it'd look pretty bad with all the loli incest pandering. |
 |
| When you mention anime in my region the average response has usually been that all people who watch anime watch tentacle porn. In my mind lolis are disgusting but the majority of casuals who don't watch anime don't even know about the sexualization of young children in anime. |
| Yet people don't stop watching movies despite the fact that there are porn, even worse child porn, and that there's stuff like snuff movies as well; without going that far, the Hollywood movies have quite a good amount of brainless shows with a lot of action, little thinking, and an heroine that was selected because she's a beauty and her only (real) role will be to be saved by the MC and fall in love with him to kiss at the end, wow, talk about shallow. Because peoples who don't like that kind of movies acknowledge than there are more to movies that just that. Saying that loli/ecchi, incest and other stuff like that gives a bad reputation to anime isn't wrong. It's true it 's a common reason for looking down on anime. BUT. Saying that it needs to be removed is wrong. It's like people getting a bad opinion of peoples liking to play game/mmo because they saw a documentary (if we can call that kind of sensational trash like that) focusing on a completely addicted player that spend his whole life playing. My point is, if someone want to have a bad opinion of something, he or she will always find a reason to have it. Even if you were to remove loli+ecchi combination as well as incest topic completely from anime, it wouldn't make a difference. Any hobby which isn't "mainstream" and is therefore mostly unknown from the masses is bound to get that kind of opinion from uninformed people. On the contrary, peoples who doesn't to get a wrong opinion of it will be able to discern that there's more to anime than just this; even if you leave ecchi/loli and incest around. So removing it doesn't really make a difference here either. People who don't want to see it won't see it anyway, and people who want to see the reality of this hobby will see it correctly anyway. In the end, having a-priori/biased opinion, looking down on others/ other's hobby is a common happening in our word. Heck, even inside the anime community, peoples do that to each other all the time. 'shit taste", "this thing is trash", and so on, you'll see that kind of stupid and biased comment everywhere, even though they should know better, as they're themselves having the same hobby. How do you expect peoples who aren't in the hobby at all to not have that kind of opinion for whatever reason they come up with. If you don't want to experience the feeling of having what you like being looked down by others because of a priori, generalizing and misinformation, then choose more "mainstream" hobbies like watching movies, and don't go toward hobbies with a more "secluded" community. |
ZefyrisJan 3, 2015 10:18 AM
 |
More topics from this board
» ⌛ Best Girls of the Past Eras >Increased Limit ( 1 2 3 )Shizuna - Yesterday |
103 |
by Shizuna
»»
20 seconds ago |
|
» Waifu War V5 (Anniversary-Edition!) (Round 1) ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )Minkalex - Sep 28 |
322 |
by Lucifrost
»»
2 minutes ago |
|
» ☀️ Anime Summer 2025 Male & Female Characters Tournament ( 1 2 )ISeeLifePeople - Oct 5 |
50 |
by Memore
»»
8 minutes ago |
|
» "We have (this series) at home" anime. (Cheaper, budget versions of other more popular anime)TheBlockernator - Aug 1 |
49 |
by Old_School_Akira
»»
33 minutes ago |
|
» 🥚 Best Husbando of the Past Eras TournamentSupersonic_Pain - Yesterday |
22 |
by ChouunShiryuu
»»
44 minutes ago |