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Dec 30, 2014 12:06 AM
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I dont know but i find the lead so boring... probably unlikeable for me.. i watched all the fate series and read a little bit of the ln but never really liked shirou... not trying to bring hate or something but idk ubw.. was soso to me... yeah it got good animation and nice action sequence but compared to fate zero.. it was such a let down.. some scenes are unnecessary.. and i dont get the i wont kill attitude of him... maybe it must be preference.. am i the only one who feels this way?
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Dec 30, 2014 12:10 AM
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No you are not the only one. F/Z is better but not by that much. Nothing much happens in the first cour. UBW is not amazing but it isn't terrible if you don't try to make sense of the chsracters' decisions and ignore the plotholes.
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Dec 30, 2014 12:10 AM
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No.
Dec 30, 2014 12:11 AM
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Flick_Flunk said:
I dont know but i find the lead so boring... probably unlikeable for me.. i watched all the fate series and read a little bit of the ln but never really liked shirou... not trying to bring hate or something but idk ubw.. was soso to me... yeah it got good animation and nice action sequence but compared to fate zero.. it was such a let down.. some scenes are unnecessary.. and i dont get the i wont kill attitude of him... maybe it must be preference.. am i the only one who feels this way?


No, you're not.


Dec 30, 2014 12:11 AM
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Nope, never heard of anyone disliking Shirou. I think most people view him as much more mature character than Kiritsugu.
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Dec 30, 2014 12:14 AM
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Flick_Flunk said:
I dont know but i find the lead so boring... probably unlikeable for me.. i watched all the fate series and read a little bit of the ln but never really liked shirou... not trying to bring hate or something but idk ubw.. was soso to me... yeah it got good animation and nice action sequence but compared to fate zero.. it was such a let down.. some scenes are unnecessary.. and i dont get the i wont kill attitude of him... maybe it must be preference.. am i the only one who feels this way?


No you're not the only one, we get opinions like this all the time.
Dec 30, 2014 12:14 AM
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dis gon b gud
Dec 30, 2014 12:14 AM
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its common for a main character to be uninteresting than the other characters like villains

get use to it because that is like cliche on most anime

and worse the writers make the viewers viewpoint relate to the main characters most of the time so ye you can easily get annoyed by them
Dec 30, 2014 12:15 AM
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Fire the no cannon.


Dec 30, 2014 12:17 AM
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Nope, you're not the only one.
Dec 30, 2014 12:17 AM

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Shirou is white. It matches with his attitude.
Dec 30, 2014 12:19 AM

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Flick_Flunk said:
I dont know but i find the lead so boring... probably unlikeable for me.. i watched all the fate series and read a little bit of the ln but never really liked shirou... not trying to bring hate or something but idk ubw.. was soso to me... yeah it got good animation and nice action sequence but compared to fate zero.. it was such a let down.. some scenes are unnecessary.. and i dont get the i wont kill attitude of him... maybe it must be preference.. am i the only one who feels this way?
your not, he can be a little unrelatable to some others can understand him for who he is. Shirou is a straight faced character and his past traumas are the main reason for it. A lot of the main complaints from the already fans of the story are complaining how shirou's characters is watered down from the source material(not watered down in the sense that they changed his character but watered down in that they cut his monologues and reduced his thought processes as visual cues on an already straight faced character) another thing you probably are not likeing about shirou is his ideals. Since Ideology is the name of the game in terms of the fate series Shirou's just seem too maddeningly childish.(once again this was brought upon by his childhood traumas). Shirou unlike characters such as Kiritsugu is only starting his story through Fate/Stay night he is suppose to start with this "maddening childish ideal" and grow from it in the second half. your probably not really meant to like him at this point in the story (depending on personal preferences) but he undergoes his "gurren lagann" changes as the story unfolds in the second half. just note that the first half is just establishment and character buildup.
Dec 30, 2014 12:20 AM

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Impala said:
Shirou is white. It matches with his attitude.
Shirou is white?
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Dec 30, 2014 12:22 AM

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ijuka said:
Impala said:
Shirou is white. It matches with his attitude.
Shirou is white?


Shirou is means white. It matches with his attitude.
Dec 30, 2014 12:22 AM

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ijuka said:
Impala said:
Shirou is white. It matches with his attitude.
Shirou is white?
i think he might have meant white as in "pure" as oppose to chars like archer who is a bit more "dirty" "grey" or "gritty"
Dec 30, 2014 12:23 AM

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ijuka said:
Impala said:
Shirou is white. It matches with his attitude.
Shirou is white?
Shiro is Japanese for white.
Dec 30, 2014 12:24 AM

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Impala said:
ijuka said:
Shirou is white?


Shirou is means white. It matches with his attitude.
I wonder. Well, I guess he got tabula rasa'd by Kiritsugu
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Dec 30, 2014 12:26 AM
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Impala said:
Shirou is means white. It matches with his attitude.


that makes sense, heroes most of the times are dislike because they are moralfags or SJW

villains meanwhile are badasses most of the time
Dec 30, 2014 12:28 AM

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I didn't start liking Shirou until the latter half of UBW. Hopefully, the second course will shed light to those who fail to see him as a decent protagonist.
Dec 30, 2014 12:32 AM

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>that makes sense, heroes most of the times are dislike because they are moralfags or SJW

Funny, considering the ANN reviews
Dec 30, 2014 12:43 AM
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[quote=Flick_Flunk]and i dont get the i wont kill attitude of him... [/spoiler]

I might just clear this up, Not once has it been implied that Shirou's mandate is not to kill.

People seem to think because he gave Kuzuki the benefit of the doubt that killing isn't an option for him.
Dec 30, 2014 12:44 AM
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j0x said:

that makes sense, heroes most of the times are dislike because they are moralfags or SJW

villains meanwhile are badasses most of the time


Pretty sure most people pray to GOD or beg some hero to save them when they are in trouble.....they magically forget they hated those type of characters during those time.

I find the hate against moral or humane or heroic characters pretty stupid and hypocritical TBH.

Dec 30, 2014 12:45 AM

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Can someone link bye shinji?
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and i dont get the i wont kill attitude of him... [/spoiler]

I might just clear this up, Not once has it been implied that Shirou's mandate is not to kill.

People seem to think because he gave Kuzuki the benefit of the doubt that killing isn't an option for him.
This is yet another reason why we needed a Fate route adaptation.

He was killing Shitji for real.

You know, until Rider saved his ass <_<
Dammit, now I have a reason to dislike Rider. That's not cool.
Dec 30, 2014 12:47 AM

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Yes I agree. Shirou is just a shitty shounen harem kiddie protagonist unlike Kiritsugu who was a deep, mature and philosphical character. Man, if Kiritsugu was fighting in this war it would have been over in 2 days considering the retarded choices of these dumb highschoolers.
Dec 30, 2014 12:48 AM

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Yes I agree. Shirou is just a shitty shounen harem kiddie protagonist unlike Kiritsugu who was a deep, mature and philosphical character. Man. if Kiritsugu was fighting in this war it would have been over in 2 day considering the retarded choices of these dumb highschoolers.


There's really no need to bring up the Kerry meme repeatedly. At this point, it's just beating a dead horse.


Dec 30, 2014 12:50 AM

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SwordHand said:
Raziel1991 said:
Yes I agree. Shirou is just a shitty shounen harem kiddie protagonist unlike Kiritsugu who was a deep, mature and philosphical character. Man. if Kiritsugu was fighting in this war it would have been over in 2 day considering the retarded choices of these dumb highschoolers.


There's really no need to bring up the Kerry meme repeatedly. At this point, it's just beating a dead horse.
Yeah I agree.

It was fun circlejerking about it a few times, but now eh.. Not so much.
Dec 30, 2014 12:52 AM

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As long as the Fate/Zero crowd keeps using the same arguments to bash UBW the meme will never become old.
Dec 30, 2014 12:56 AM
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Well we really don't need to bash Kerry to show that Shirou is indeed a interesting character right?

Dec 30, 2014 1:01 AM

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Raziel1991 said:
As long as the Fate/Zero crowd keeps using the same arguments to bash UBW the meme will never become old.
the OP really sounds more like he just doesnt "get it"....despite caster even spelling it out for people in the latest episode. It's one of those things that may sink in in hindsight..or if he goes back and marathons it....and even then it's fine that he's bored with the character Shirou has barely gotten started.
Dec 30, 2014 1:01 AM

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Where's my popcorn bag?
Dec 30, 2014 1:01 AM

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Raziel1991 said:
As long as the Fate/Zero crowd keeps using the same arguments to bash UBW the meme will never become old.
See, here's the thing, I am sick of the F/Z crowd. Pretty sure the others are too. So the meme is kinda annoying now.

Personally idgaf anymore, if people want to hate Shirou then fine by all means, I'm still going to argue if they are serious about it and bring good points, but other than that I'll just sit back and have some wine, pretty much the same way ZeroDragon does it.
Dec 30, 2014 1:04 AM
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StrayBotato said:
Raziel1991 said:
As long as the Fate/Zero crowd keeps using the same arguments to bash UBW the meme will never become old.
See, here's the thing, I am sick of the F/Z crowd. Pretty sure the others are too. So the meme is kinda annoying now.

Personally idgaf anymore, if people want to hate Shirou then fine by all means, I'm still going to argue if they are serious about it and bring good points, but other than that I'll just sit back and have some wine, pretty much the same way ZeroDragon does it.


Speaking of which.........where is ZeroDragon?

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Dragon_Slayer_X said:
Well we really don't need to bash Kerry to show that Shirou is indeed a interesting character right?


Oh god... have we grown as people?
Dec 30, 2014 1:06 AM

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Well we really don't need to bash Kerry to show that Shirou is indeed a interesting character right?


Oh god... have we grown as people?
Notice that out of all of us, only 2 people shit on Kiritsugu. The meme makes fun of the viewers not F/Z or the characters in it.

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See, here's the thing, I am sick of the F/Z crowd. Pretty sure the others are too. So the meme is kinda annoying now.

Personally idgaf anymore, if people want to hate Shirou then fine by all means, I'm still going to argue if they are serious about it and bring good points, but other than that I'll just sit back and have some wine, pretty much the same way ZeroDragon does it.


Speaking of which.........where is ZeroDragon?
Dunno, probably drinking wine at some church.
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StrayBotato said:
Raziel1991 said:
As long as the Fate/Zero crowd keeps using the same arguments to bash UBW the meme will never become old.
See, here's the thing, I am sick of the F/Z crowd. Pretty sure the others are too. So the meme is kinda annoying now.

Personally idgaf anymore, if people want to hate Shirou then fine by all means, I'm still going to argue if they are serious about it and bring good points, but other than that I'll just sit back and have some wine, pretty much the same way ZeroDragon does it.


I second this, the F/Z crowd has become one the most pretentious fanbase up to date. Well at least the vocal ones. They've gone beyond annoying and hypocritical at this point so I don't see a reason to bother with them.

They come up with plenty of excuses to not read the VN so I don't know where they get the idea that it's ok to talk about something as if they know it.
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Shirou is a one track mind personality as I see him right now, "save everyone" haha nah just kidding hes pretty chill and hes deeper than that but I can see why people dont like him but to be honest I really like this shirou way better than the 2006 fate versions.
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Shirou is a one track mind personality as I see him right now, "save everyone" haha nah just kidding hes pretty chill and hes deeper than that but I can see why people dont like him but to be honest I really like this shirou way better than the 2006 fate versions.


That's perfect, he's supposed to come off as having a one track mind.

The priests are now content.
Dec 30, 2014 1:27 AM

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WrongPriest said:
Lolicon_Knight said:
Shirou is a one track mind personality as I see him right now, "save everyone" haha nah just kidding hes pretty chill and hes deeper than that but I can see why people dont like him but to be honest I really like this shirou way better than the 2006 fate versions.


That's perfect, he's supposed to come off as having a one track mind.

The priests are now content.


Hahaha what?
Dec 30, 2014 1:30 AM
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The main problem is still DEENNIGHT, many who hate Shirou came in with the mindtrack that Emiya is an idiot and whatever he does is stupid and don't want to see beyond that or admit that they are wrong.

They still see him as "I wanna save everyone shouting naive idiot"............if they don't admit their own stupidity after these 13 episodes of UBW then we don't have obligation to cure that. They are gonna lose in arguments anyway but never admit they are wrong in their judgement.........

Dec 30, 2014 1:31 AM

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'kay den
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That's perfect, he's supposed to come off as having a one track mind.

The priests are now content.


Hahaha what?


Nothing secret, You've just picked up what was the episodes were trying to show.

That's means Ufotable has done their job, and the Priests are happy.
Dec 30, 2014 1:37 AM

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Ok
The world shall know the truth soon.
Dec 30, 2014 1:41 AM

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WrongPriest said:
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Hahaha what?


Nothing secret, You've just picked up what was the episodes were trying to show.

That's means Ufotable has done their job, and the Priests are happy.


Dec 30, 2014 1:42 AM

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If you admire archer then you will love shirou by the time 2nd cour is finished... Shirous ideals and why he does what he does will be a lot clearer .
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Yet humanity has never recognized this truth.
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Lolicon_Knight said:
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Nothing secret, You've just picked up what was the episodes were trying to show.

That's means Ufotable has done their job, and the Priests are happy.



Shirou comes off as having a one track mind, but in reality it's a lot deeper than that.... this is pretty much what we've been saying the entire time. Glad to see you picked up on it, because a lot of people don't.

I like the pic btw lol
Dec 30, 2014 1:48 AM

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Well lets be honest it wouldnt be a successful show if the "main" male character was a boring generic douchebag, I mean yeah hes to shy around rin but isnt that a natural thing when you (well I asume) he hasnt ever had a girlfriend or anything, but when it matters he has reasons for doing what he does, thats just how I see it but in forums everyone has thier mixed bag of opinions.
Dec 30, 2014 1:49 AM

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He ruins the anime for me.
Dec 30, 2014 1:50 AM

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Shirou's got about as much depth as a kiddy pool.

Which is pretty deep because we're all worms


Dec 30, 2014 1:54 AM

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He ruins the anime for me.


I don't know how that's even possible but whatever.
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