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| Following Saber's cue, I feel that the head of the school could be a possible Master. |
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zat-bust said: If you mean Kuzuki-sensei he is just a teacher.Following Saber's cue, I feel that the head of the school could be a possible Master. |
FakePriest said: Well he is in charge of the student council so maybe that's why he thought he was the head of the school...zat-bust said: If you mean Kuzuki-sensei he is just a teacher.Following Saber's cue, I feel that the head of the school could be a possible Master. Edit: And fuck, I just noticed that I wasted my 6666th post on this -.- |
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| And the only teacher to appear besides Taiga. So basically the only teacher. |
| Dang, Caster needs to get some better familiars. Those things died really easily, especially the big one. (Then again, they are made out of bones...) |
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hawk222 said: Dang, Caster needs to get some better familiars. Those things died really easily, especially the big one. (Then again, they are made out of bones...) Well, she has one particularly strong one at least. |
| Then again they died easy against RIN... |
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| Boring setup episode. |
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| hold up, Berserker takes three days to regenerate one life? I feel like Sakura is being represented poorly tbh. Her constant dejected expressions every time Shirou so much as talks to another girl is a key aspect to her character, and that's pretty much not being represented at all. HOLY SHIT ILLYA BATH SCENE WAS 10/10 |
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| Berserker regenerates completely in three days (an info that was revealed in the Fate route in the VN). I... don't really see where your problem is. |
Zadion said: hold up, Berserker takes three days to regenerate one life? I dont see your problem. ninja'd Zadion said: I feel like Sakura is being represented poorly tbh. Her constant dejected expressions every time Shirou so much as talks to another girl is a key aspect to her character, and that's pretty much not being represented at all. HOLY SHIT ILLYA BATH SCENE WAS 10/10 Thats exactly how Sakura is in UBW and Fate. |
Zadion said: it's "max number of lives" basically if he lost some lives in a day and isnt finished off within a 3 day timeframe he goes back to a full numberhold up, Berserker takes three days to regenerate one life? |
CapsuleCore said: Berserker regenerates completely in three days (an info that was revealed in the Fate route in the VN). I... don't really see where your problem is. Ah, the way I interpreted the line in the anime was like Illya saying Berserker can only regenerate once every three days. HentaiPriest said: Zadion said: I feel like Sakura is being represented poorly tbh. Her constant dejected expressions every time Shirou so much as talks to another girl is a key aspect to her character, and that's pretty much not being represented at all. HOLY SHIT ILLYA BATH SCENE WAS 10/10 Thats exactly how Sakura is in UBW and Fate. Not at all. In every route, Sakura acted excessively clingy and depressed when Shirou did pretty much anything. I distinctively recall that in the scene with Shirou taking Saber to school in the VN, Sakura questioned him and donned her stereotypical sadface just seeing Saber there. Here, her reactions to Saber were more-or-less like, "Oh, cool." Wasn't a single hint of being clingy, being super upset at Saber even existing, or acting like she constantly wanted to speak up to say something but she's too weak-willed and afraid to speak her mind, and these are all reactions she had to Shirou and Saber in UBW. |
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Zadion said: hold up, Berserker takes three days to regenerate one life? I feel like Sakura is being represented poorly tbh. Her constant dejected expressions every time Shirou so much as talks to another girl is a key aspect to her character, and that's pretty much not being represented at all. HOLY SHIT ILLYA BATH SCENE WAS 10/10 Sakura's portrayed better than in the VN in my opinion. In the VN she was by far my least favorite main female character until H/F, actually I was detesting the idea of even beginning the H/F route playthrough(now she's my favorite female character). |
| "When they're alive, you can enjoy watching them struggle. When they're dead, you can enjoy tearing out their guts. Tales are things you get to enjoy twice." |
ijuka said: Zadion said: hold up, Berserker takes three days to regenerate one life? I feel like Sakura is being represented poorly tbh. Her constant dejected expressions every time Shirou so much as talks to another girl is a key aspect to her character, and that's pretty much not being represented at all. HOLY SHIT ILLYA BATH SCENE WAS 10/10 Sakura's portrayed better than in the VN in my opinion. In the VN she was by far my least favorite main female character until H/F, actually I was detesting the idea of even beginning the H/F route playthrough(now she's my favorite female character). That would be because the anime makes her appear more nonchalant and less invested in Shirou's life, whereas the VN portrays her as annoyingly obsessive and ridiculously shy. The annoyingly obsessive and ridiculously shy personality is mandatory for her development in HF, though. |
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WrongPriest said: ^Wha.. people who like Sakura other than me? Can we hang out!? I-I'm cool I promise! Hmm, not sure if you can trust a Rider with a mustache. It's a trap. |
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ZeroDragon said: WrongPriest said: ^Wha.. people who like Sakura other than me? Can we hang out!? I-I'm cool I promise! Hmm, not sure if you can trust a Rider with a mustache. It's a trap.  |
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WrongPriest said: ^Wha.. people who like Sakura other than me? Can we hang out!? I-I'm cool I promise! Sure. You can find me wherever someone is dissing Sakura(unless it's certain people who can't be reasoned with guess who) That sig by the way. Don't read this spoiler if you haven't read H/F. |
| "When they're alive, you can enjoy watching them struggle. When they're dead, you can enjoy tearing out their guts. Tales are things you get to enjoy twice." |
WrongPriest said: ^Wha.. people who like Sakura other than me? Can we hang out!? I-I'm cool I promise! Excuse my ignorance, but is Sakura actually a disliked character among the fandom? I find her to be the most developed non-Servant character in the series, except for maybe Shirou, and only because Shirou gets developed three times in three different ways (apparently). She's among the best characters in an already very strong character cast, IMO. Not really sure why people who've read HF would dislike her. |
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Zadion said: WrongPriest said: ^Wha.. people who like Sakura other than me? Can we hang out!? I-I'm cool I promise! Excuse my ignorance, but is Sakura actually a disliked character among the fandom? I find her to be the most developed non-Servant character in the series, except for maybe Shirou, and only because Shirou gets developed three times in three different ways (apparently). She's among the best characters in an already very strong character cast, IMO. Not really sure why people who've read HF would dislike her. I won't go into detail, but yes, a large portion of the fanbase doesn't care much for Sakura - myself included, quite frankly. |
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Zadion said: WrongPriest said: ^Wha.. people who like Sakura other than me? Can we hang out!? I-I'm cool I promise! Excuse my ignorance, but is Sakura actually a disliked character among the fandom? I find her to be the most developed non-Servant character in the series, except for maybe Shirou, and only because Shirou gets developed three times in three different ways (apparently). She's among the best characters in an already very strong character cast, IMO. Not really sure why people who've read HF would dislike her. I like Sakura, though not as much as the other characters. But regardless, I see what's coming. Time to take out the wine and sit back and relax.  |
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Zadion said: WrongPriest said: ^Wha.. people who like Sakura other than me? Can we hang out!? I-I'm cool I promise! Excuse my ignorance, but is Sakura actually a disliked character among the fandom? I find her to be the most developed non-Servant character in the series, except for maybe Shirou, and only because Shirou gets developed three times in three different ways (apparently). She's among the best characters in an already very strong character cast, IMO. Not really sure why people who've read HF would dislike her. Well, how to explain it? You probably need a more mature person to appreciate her as a character. I don't think she'd appeal to the generic 14-year-old shounen fan. |
| "When they're alive, you can enjoy watching them struggle. When they're dead, you can enjoy tearing out their guts. Tales are things you get to enjoy twice." |
ijuka said: Zadion said: Excuse my ignorance, but is Sakura actually a disliked character among the fandom? I find her to be the most developed non-Servant character in the series, except for maybe Shirou, and only because Shirou gets developed three times in three different ways (apparently). She's among the best characters in an already very strong character cast, IMO. Not really sure why people who've read HF would dislike her. Well, how to explain it? You probably need a more mature person to appreciate her as a character. I don't think she'd appeal to the generic 14-year-old shounen fan. lol thanks for that :D |
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ijuka said: Zadion said: Excuse my ignorance, but is Sakura actually a disliked character among the fandom? I find her to be the most developed non-Servant character in the series, except for maybe Shirou, and only because Shirou gets developed three times in three different ways (apparently). She's among the best characters in an already very strong character cast, IMO. Not really sure why people who've read HF would dislike her. Well, how to explain it? You probably need a more mature person to appreciate her as a character. I don't think she'd appeal to the generic 14-year-old shounen fan. oh damn rofl. SHOTS FIRED I'm guessing its just her core personality that people find unappealing, regardless of how she is or isn't developed. |
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| Mostly it's the wildly varying opinions on the part she has in HF. Other than that's it's just character preference. |
| Don't know about others, but I won't pretend that my dislike for Sakura is entirely rational, because it's not. The simple fact is that she has numerous personality traits that I condemn in myself. So it boils down to simple projection, ultimately. |
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Zadion said: ijuka said: Well, how to explain it? You probably need a more mature person to appreciate her as a character. I don't think she'd appeal to the generic 14-year-old shounen fan. oh damn rofl. SHOTS FIRED I'm guessing its just her core personality that people find unappealing, regardless of how she is or isn't developed. Well, I just mean. Nowadays what I'm looking for the most is just clear character development, small things, slight hints in character behavior, thinking about how characters are feeling and thinking about certain things. When I was younger the focus might have been more into "wow that's cool!" or "awesome fight!" while lately in most anime, fights are what I mostly consider irrelevant filler(something as gorgeous as ufotable is of course an exception). Nearly all conversations with Sakura and thinking about how her mind works and everything, well. It's hard to explain, I can't pinpoint it easily right now but it's just something. However, I'd be willing to bet that if there was an age - to - Sakura-liking ratio graph, I'd be on the right track. Of course, this is just my personal opinion that's attempting to be objective. I wonder how people's perception about Sakura will be with the H/F movies assuming it's adapted properly. WrongPriest said: Mostly it's the wildly varying opinions on the part she has in HF. Other than that's it's just character preference. |
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Zadion said: WrongPriest said: ^Wha.. people who like Sakura other than me? Can we hang out!? I-I'm cool I promise! Excuse my ignorance, but is Sakura actually a disliked character among the fandom? I find her to be the most developed non-Servant character in the series, except for maybe Shirou, and only because Shirou gets developed three times in three different ways (apparently). She's among the best characters in an already very strong character cast, IMO. Not really sure why people who've read HF would dislike her. Why do you find Sakura the most developed non-Servant character in the series? |
BeautifulShinji said: Zadion said: Excuse my ignorance, but is Sakura actually a disliked character among the fandom? I find her to be the most developed non-Servant character in the series, except for maybe Shirou, and only because Shirou gets developed three times in three different ways (apparently). She's among the best characters in an already very strong character cast, IMO. Not really sure why people who've read HF would dislike her. Why do you find Sakura the most developed non-Servant character in the series? Who shall we compare to? |
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ijuka said: WrongPriest said: ^Wha.. people who like Sakura other than me? Can we hang out!? I-I'm cool I promise! Sure. You can find me wherever someone is dissing Sakura(unless it's certain people who can't be reasoned with guess who) That sig by the way. Don't read this spoiler if you haven't read H/F. |
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ijuka said: BeautifulShinji said: Why do you find Sakura the most developed non-Servant character in the series? Who shall we compare to? |
BeautifulShinjiDec 19, 2014 9:39 PM
BeautifulShinji said: ijuka said: Who shall we compare to? Wrong series. Also not even close. Also spoiler tags. |
| "When they're alive, you can enjoy watching them struggle. When they're dead, you can enjoy tearing out their guts. Tales are things you get to enjoy twice." |
ijuka said: BeautifulShinji said: Wrong series. Also not even close. Also spoiler tags. How is that even a spoiler? |
BeautifulShinji said: Zadion said: Excuse my ignorance, but is Sakura actually a disliked character among the fandom? I find her to be the most developed non-Servant character in the series, except for maybe Shirou, and only because Shirou gets developed three times in three different ways (apparently). She's among the best characters in an already very strong character cast, IMO. Not really sure why people who've read HF would dislike her. Why do you find Sakura the most developed non-Servant character in the series? mickdrew_99 said: Don't know about others, but I won't pretend that my dislike for Sakura is entirely rational, because it's not. The simple fact is that she has numerous personality traits that I condemn in myself. So it boils down to simple projection, ultimately. Spoiler tagging this because I dunno how much it'd count as spoilers: Think I answered both posts in that. |
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BeautifulShinji said: ijuka said: Wrong series. Also not even close. Also spoiler tags. How is that even a spoiler? |
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ijuka said: BeautifulShinji said: How is that even a spoiler? Oh yeah. You're right. The fact that a character exists in a franchise is a spoiler. Saying that one character is a prototype of another character also means that they're exactly the same. |
Zadion said: Spoiler tagging this because I dunno how much it'd count as spoilers: Think I answered both posts in that. Tagged for same reason idk, maybe it just hasn't hit me yet like it has for others. I'm going through HF right now, and I'm trying really hard to like Sakura, so who knows... |
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Zadion said: BeautifulShinji said: Why do you find Sakura the most developed non-Servant character in the series? mickdrew_99 said: Don't know about others, but I won't pretend that my dislike for Sakura is entirely rational, because it's not. The simple fact is that she has numerous personality traits that I condemn in myself. So it boils down to simple projection, ultimately. Spoiler tagging this because I dunno how much it'd count as spoilers: Think I answered both posts in that. Another thing is that There you go, a wall of text that repeats itself unnecessarily and has absolutely no structure. BeautifulShinji said: You honestly are now on my list of people with too low a brain capacity to be worth replying to. ijuka said: Oh yeah. You're right. The fact that a character exists in a franchise is a spoiler. Saying that one character is a prototype of another character also means that they're exactly the same. |
ijukaDec 19, 2014 9:43 PM
| "When they're alive, you can enjoy watching them struggle. When they're dead, you can enjoy tearing out their guts. Tales are things you get to enjoy twice." |
ijuka said: Zadion said: Spoiler tagging this because I dunno how much it'd count as spoilers: Think I answered both posts in that. Another thing is that There you go, a wall of text that repeats itself unnecessarily and has absolutely no structure. BeautifulShinji said: You honestly are now on my list of people too low a brain capacity to be worth replying to. Oh yeah. You're right. The fact that a character exists in a franchise is a spoiler. Saying that one character is a prototype of another character also means that they're exactly the same. Likewise, my friend ;) I think that you need to look up the definition of "prototype". |
mickdrew_99 said: Tagged for same reason idk, maybe it just hasn't hit me yet like it has for others. I'm going through HF right now, and I'm trying really hard to like Sakura, so who knows... Yeah, basically. Even beyond that, though, I like her more as a character than as a person, simply because she's more interesting... there's a reason Shirou x Saber is my pairing and I'm not too fond of Shirou x Sakura... I'd have a very hard time dealing with a real person like her, most likely, and I assume most would. ijuka said: Another thing is that There you go, a wall of text that repeats itself unnecessarily and has absolutely no structure. This is all very true as well. |
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| Can't believe we've been discussing Sakura for this long without a flame war breaking out. Stay tuned. |
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| I was expecting an all out war with Sakura haters dominating like usual, but I was pleasantly surprised. |
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ZeroDragon said: I was expecting an all out war with Sakura haters dominating like usual, but I was pleasantly surprised. I would've thought you'd be disappointed. Doesn't wine taste best when watching people ripping each other apart? |
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WrongPriest said: mickdrew_99 said: Can't believe we've been discussing Sakura for this long without a flame war breaking out. Stay tuned. #ThereIsStillHopeLOTRGif #waitingforFaitowakeup |
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mickdrew_99 said: ZeroDragon said: I was expecting an all out war with Sakura haters dominating like usual, but I was pleasantly surprised. I would've thought you'd be disappointed. Doesn't wine taste best when watching people ripping each other apart? I took out the wine too early. |
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Zadion said: I suggest to rewatch it.Sakura clearly doesnt like the idea of Saber being there.CapsuleCore said: Berserker regenerates completely in three days (an info that was revealed in the Fate route in the VN). I... don't really see where your problem is. Ah, the way I interpreted the line in the anime was like Illya saying Berserker can only regenerate once every three days. HentaiPriest said: Thats exactly how Sakura is in UBW and Fate. Not at all. In every route, Sakura acted excessively clingy and depressed when Shirou did pretty much anything. I distinctively recall that in the scene with Shirou taking Saber to school in the VN, Sakura questioned him and donned her stereotypical sadface just seeing Saber there. Here, her reactions to Saber were more-or-less like, "Oh, cool." Wasn't a single hint of being clingy, being super upset at Saber even existing, or acting like she constantly wanted to speak up to say something but she's too weak-willed and afraid to speak her mind, and these are all reactions she had to Shirou and Saber in UBW. |
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