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Dec 14, 2014 8:19 AM

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CookingPriest said:
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I actually have no idea since I know nothing about it aside from what Fate/Extra shown me and I read on wiki. I suppose it would still work, but Nero would either have it easier to survive the attack due to the advantage it gives her.


Bassically Nero controls the rules inside it.



So I wonder how it would work with the whole causality power.


She controls the rules but not Gae Bolg. If she says it can't hit her, after it's been thrust, she's already hit. Before, however, is another matter =3


With all that ego, I wonder why Gil doesn't have something like that~?
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Dec 14, 2014 8:28 AM

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CookingPriest said:
Aurioch said:


I actually have no idea since I know nothing about it aside from what Fate/Extra shown me and I read on wiki. I suppose it would still work, but Nero would either have it easier to survive the attack due to the advantage it gives her.


Bassically Nero controls the rules inside it.



So I wonder how it would work with the whole causality power.


Thats actually a good question. My 2 cents is, she cant do nothing once gae bolg has been activated, but if she somehow manipulate the rules before (knowing ofc the power of gaebolg beforehand) it might turn innefective, but if she tries to once gae bolg is activated is gg to her, since her heart has been already pierced
Dec 14, 2014 8:33 AM

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DaveSama said:
CookingPriest said:


Bassically Nero controls the rules inside it.



So I wonder how it would work with the whole causality power.


Thats actually a good question. My 2 cents is, she cant do nothing once gae bolg has been activated, but if she somehow manipulate the rules before (knowing ofc the power of gaebolg beforehand) it might turn innefective, but if she tries to once gae bolg is activated is gg to her, since her heart has been already pierced


Myahaha, that's what I said~ *w*
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Dec 14, 2014 8:42 AM

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DaveSama said:
CookingPriest said:


Bassically Nero controls the rules inside it.



So I wonder how it would work with the whole causality power.


Thats actually a good question. My 2 cents is, she cant do nothing once gae bolg has been activated, but if she somehow manipulate the rules before (knowing ofc the power of gaebolg beforehand) it might turn innefective, but if she tries to once gae bolg is activated is gg to her, since her heart has been already pierced


Let's just say theoretically the gae bolg is activated inside the theater, but the theater already has the whole "no damage is done to me" thing active or "enemy nps do not work"(since let's be frank Lancer would not use it at the start if we know Lancer).

Would Gae Bolg circumvent that or not?

Also technically if we talk about that


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With all that ego, I wonder why Gil doesn't have something like that~?


For the same reason he does not have her sword.

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CookingPriest said:
DaveSama said:


Thats actually a good question. My 2 cents is, she cant do nothing once gae bolg has been activated, but if she somehow manipulate the rules before (knowing ofc the power of gaebolg beforehand) it might turn innefective, but if she tries to once gae bolg is activated is gg to her, since her heart has been already pierced


Let's just say theoretically the gae bolg is activated inside the theater, but the theater already has the whole "no damage is done to me" thing active or "enemy nps do not work"(since let's be frank Lancer would not use it at the start if we know Lancer).

Would Gae Bolg circumvent that or not?

Also technically if we talk about that


mira-lala said:


With all that ego, I wonder why Gil doesn't have something like that~?


For the same reason he does not have her sword.


Lol, so why didn't Gil get a reality marble Uruk?

Gae Bolg's cure doesn't heal. But Shirou got a new heart, Nero can get a new body/heart.
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Dec 14, 2014 9:18 AM

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I didn't play Fate/Extra yet. Would Nero's "rules" be able to protect against weapons aimed directly at her Colosseum-RM? i.e. would "EA makes no damage" also be effective if Gil aimed it at the arena itself with it's world-destroying function?

Also can she prevent other RM users like Archer and F/Z Rider to destroy her RM if they try to cast their own to negate hers even if she was the first one to have casted hers?
Dec 14, 2014 9:26 AM

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mira-lala said:

Lol, so why didn't Gil get a reality marble Uruk?

Gae Bolg's cure doesn't heal. But Shirou got a new heart, Nero can get a new body/heart.


Gilgamesh had an ego based on the world he lived in
Nero


AS for cure


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I didn't play Fate/Extra yet. Would Nero's "rules" be able to protect against weapons aimed directly at her Colosseum-RM? i.e. would "EA makes no damage" also be effective if Gil aimed it at the arena itself with it's world-destroying function?

Also can she prevent other RM users like Archer and F/Z Rider to destroy her RM if they try to cast their own to negate hers even if she was the first one to have casted hers?


Yes

Unknown. IF its a battle of ego's(since RM i representation of person's psyche so...so they would need to overpower her's), then anyone not named Gil does not succeed. Otherwise unknown.
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CookingPriest said:
mira-lala said:

Lol, so why didn't Gil get a reality marble Uruk?

Gae Bolg's cure doesn't heal. But Shirou got a new heart, Nero can get a new body/heart.


Gilgamesh had an ego based on the world he lived in
Nero


AS for cure


Grey-Zone said:
I didn't play Fate/Extra yet. Would Nero's "rules" be able to protect against weapons aimed directly at her Colosseum-RM? i.e. would "EA makes no damage" also be effective if Gil aimed it at the arena itself with it's world-destroying function?

Also can she prevent other RM users like Archer and F/Z Rider to destroy her RM if they try to cast their own to negate hers even if she was the first one to have casted hers?


Yes

Unknown. IF its a battle of ego's(since RM i representation of person's psyche so...so they would need to overpower her's), then anyone not named Gil does not succeed. Otherwise unknown.


Iskander dood. We all know Nero's female Iskander.
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mira-lala said:
CookingPriest said:


Gilgamesh had an ego based on the world he lived in
Nero


AS for cure




Yes

Unknown. IF its a battle of ego's(since RM i representation of person's psyche so...so they would need to overpower her's), then anyone not named Gil does not succeed. Otherwise unknown.


Iskander dood. We all know Nero's female Iskander.


No she's a Saber clone.
Dec 14, 2014 9:57 AM

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Indeed, she's a double faker =3
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Nifty thing about Aestus Domus Aurea is that it does not behave like typical Reality Marble... that is, she doesn't replace outer world with her inner world, but builds her world (the theater) on top of the current world. Which probably means her theater would persist even if other parties invoke their reality marbles.

If Nero added rules like "0 damage to me" before Lancer invokes Gae Bolg... maybe Gae Bolg would execute as normal, piercing her heart and all, but she would immediately gain new heart to fulfill the rule? I don't know, unless we see it somewhere outside of video game, I doubt we can figure out what will happen XD
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If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you?

Not air.
Dec 14, 2014 9:59 AM

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'0 damage to me' would mean it would hit her, but no damage. But it probably wouldn't work if she says it after Gae Bolg's been thrown.
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mira-lala said:
'0 damage to me' would mean it would hit her, but no damage. But it probably wouldn't work if she says it after Gae Bolg's been thrown.


Thrown version doesn't have the heart stab effect.
Dec 14, 2014 10:14 AM

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What about Fragrarch? Would it kill Nero before she casts her RM?
Dec 14, 2014 10:20 AM

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Grey-Zone said:
What about Fragrarch? Would it kill Nero before she casts her RM?


That's even trickier to answer. Mindfucked.

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'0 damage to me' would mean it would hit her, but no damage. But it probably wouldn't work if she says it after Gae Bolg's been thrown.


What if she says "his attack won't hit me"?
Dec 14, 2014 10:21 AM

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Grey-Zone said:
What about Fragrarch? Would it kill Nero before she casts her RM?

"It can't go back in time"
But it goes back in time before she says that.
But it can't.
But it does.
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CookingPriest said:
Grey-Zone said:
What about Fragrarch? Would it kill Nero before she casts her RM?


That's even trickier to answer. Mindfucked.

mira-lala said:
'0 damage to me' would mean it would hit her, but no damage. But it probably wouldn't work if she says it after Gae Bolg's been thrown.


What if she says "his attack won't hit me"?


Depends. Gae Bolg can only be stopped by powerful shields, so 'it won't hit me' probably won't work. Unless she says something that summons a strong enough shield.






On the topic of shields, I wonder what Stray Servant's shield can do. It looks like her NP.
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how strong is Lugh Beowulf suppose to be? i mean like some relative comparisons such as 30% arc..or even touko.
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Maloghurst said:
how strong is Lugh Beowulf suppose to be? i mean like some relative comparisons such as 30% arc..or even touko.

He's supposed to be servant level, I believe.
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InsertPriestHere said:
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how strong is Lugh Beowulf suppose to be? i mean like some relative comparisons such as 30% arc..or even touko.

He's supposed to be servant level, I believe.


Correct. Mid to low servant.
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CookingPriest said:
InsertPriestHere said:

He's supposed to be servant level, I believe.


Correct. Mid to low servant.

Shizuki vs Kuzuki, who wins?
Shizuki vs Caster-enhanced Kuzuki, who wins?
Dec 14, 2014 12:36 PM

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Is this the Shizuki who just came out of training?

That Shizuki will murder everything.

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InsertPriestHere said:
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Is this the Shizuki who just came out of training?

That Shizuki will murder everything.

Hmm....I'm not too sure on the specifics of his powers, but it seems to me like he nearly dies-or actually, pretty much dies-after defeating Beowulf, who, according to CP, is low-mid servant tier, whereas Kuzuki destroyed Saber who is certainly in the higher tiers without batting an eyelash.


That's different. Surprise attack=/=stronger.
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InsertPriestHere said:
RinArcher said:
Is this the Shizuki who just came out of training?

That Shizuki will murder everything.

Hmm....I'm not too sure on the specifics of his powers, but it seems to me like he nearly dies-or actually, pretty much dies-after defeating Beowulf, who, according to CP, is low-mid servant tier, whereas Kuzuki destroyed Saber who is certainly in the higher tiers without batting an eyelash.


Thats because that's along the while

Shizuki at start of the story would stomp everything.
Dec 14, 2014 12:54 PM

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mira-lala said:

That's different. Surprise attack=/=stronger.

My point is that there was no damage to Kuzuki's body from the battle compared to
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CookingPriest said:

Thats because that's along the while

Shizuki at start of the story would stomp everything.

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Who is the fastest character in the entire Type Moon franchise? (pure speed)
fate/stay night Rider?
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YAY untranslated VN spoilers YAY


I forgot, sorry-s :(


You meanie. There are still people who can't moonread through it.
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If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you?

Not air.
Dec 14, 2014 1:22 PM

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InsertPriestHere said:

CookingPriest said:

Thats because that's along the while

Shizuki at start of the story would stomp everything.



Yes
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Yeah I can't even keep up with this thread.

The things a TM newbie has to deal with.
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Yeah I can't even keep up with this thread.

The things a TM newbie has to deal with.
I feel the same way.
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InsertPriestHere said:
mira-lala said:

That's different. Surprise attack=/=stronger.

My point is that there was no damage to Kuzuki's body from the battle compared to
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CookingPriest said:

Thats because that's along the while

Shizuki at start of the story would stomp everything.



Cos Kuzuki has Caster's reinforcement, and she didn't get the chance to strike because she was on the offensive.
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mira-lala said:
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My point is that there was no damage to Kuzuki's body from the battle compared to
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Cos Kuzuki has Caster's reinforcement, and she didn't get the chance to strike because she was on the offensive.


Kuzuki is best master.
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DocAwesome said:
mira-lala said:


Cos Kuzuki has Caster's reinforcement, and she didn't get the chance to strike because she was on the offensive.


Kuzuki is best master.


Clearly.
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mira-lala said:
DocAwesome said:


Kuzuki is best master.


Clearly.


And another one has seen the light.
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UBW and Fate/Zero spoilers
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Whatever it is.
Type-Moon's project surely worth to watch
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ok here's one Shirou Emiya vs Shirou Kotomine. how each of the shirou's from stay night compare to kotomine Sirou in a 1v1
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Shirou wins.
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So, what do you predict?
Lancelot with Arondight open vs. Lancer Zero.
In how seconds does Lancelot takes this?
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So, what do you predict?
Lancelot with Arondight open vs. Lancer Zero.
In how seconds does Lancelot takes this?

You mean in how many seconds Lancelot takes Lancer's spears for his own right?
Btw he still has the capabilities to steal weapons but he cant put his mana inside them and make them his or use modern weapons like a tank or jet fighter.
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fairypriest said:
Stark700 said:
Who is the fastest character in the entire Type Moon franchise? (pure speed)
fate/stay night Rider?

By using NPs it is Gil.

Pure speed is tricky since most dont know F/A and F/SF Servants abilities.So I go with FSN Rider.
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UBW and Fate/Zero spoilers


Archer gets fucked if he goes into melee fights.
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RejoicingPriest said:
UBW and Fate/Zero spoilers


Archer gets fucked if he goes into melee fights.
Project Monohoshi Zao.Spam Tsubame Gaeshi.
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HentaiPriest said:
fairypriest said:
fate/stay night Rider?

By using NPs it is Gil.

Pure speed is tricky since most dont know F/A and F/SF Servants abilities.So I go with FSN Rider.


Pretty much:
Extra-Gil > FSN Rider > FSN Lancer

THat is talking about servants.

If talking about humans,
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CookingPriest said:
HentaiPriest said:

By using NPs it is Gil.

Pure speed is tricky since most dont know F/A and F/SF Servants abilities.So I go with FSN Rider.


Pretty much:
Extra-Gil > FSN Rider > FSN Lancer

THat is talking about servants.

If talking about humans,
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RinArcher said:
Can Archer really spam Tsubame Gaeshi if he wanted to btw?


Not sure about spam, it isn't GoB. A skilled opponent with tactics can do something about it without going all frontal or maybe with. But theoretically he should be able to use it without any toll on himself.
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Can Archer really spam Tsubame Gaeshi if he wanted to btw?
Since UBW grants him access to the skills of the wielders and Tsubame Gaeshi is PURE skill I would say yes.Shirou did use Nine Lives axe-sword version so...
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