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Nov 2, 2014 2:31 PM

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For me the people who see Sakura as a "side character" in HF are what for VN readers are people saying that Shirou is a "typical lame shounen protagonist", or what for Fai are people that recommend watching F/0 first. Yes, it looks that stupid to me.
Nov 2, 2014 2:40 PM

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For me the people who see Sakura as a "side character" in HF are what for VN readers are people saying that Shirou is a "typical lame shounen protagonist", or what for Fai are people that recommend watching F/0 first. Yes, it looks that stupid to me.

you are free to provide actual arguments towards Sakura's relevance beyond being a deus ex machina - asomethingsomething that causes Shirou Rin and Illya do all the great stuff and say all the great things. And then thatsomethingsomething goes back to being exactly same as before that with no consequences..

While you are grasping at straws to do that, might as well try to prove that Sakura in anyway shape or form developed as a character or that her progression (oblivioussenpaimachine >yandere >oblivious senpai machine) made any lick of sense. Because its just as fruitless.

There's a reason why even VN readers hate Sakura's guts.

Pretty much the only ones to pay any attention to her are Zero Secondaries (because omgomgKariya is totally a good guy and not tunnel vision ntr-psyhopath) and Mike. Otherwise Sakura fanbase is a vast minority in terms of VN readers.

I give Sakura credit where its due - her backstory and psychological profile. But that's all there is for her. She is a "twist" - no more no less.
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because omgomgKariya is totally a good guy and not tunnel vision ntr-psyhopath


Are you supposed to know this from the F/SN VN, or from the F/Z novel?
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fst said:
CookingPriest said:
because omgomgKariya is totally a good guy and not tunnel vision ntr-psyhopath


Are you supposed to know this from the F/SN VN, or from the F/Z novel?
FZ novel. He's not mentioned in the FSN VN, because he didn't exist or was planned at that time.
Nov 2, 2014 3:12 PM

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CookingPriest said:
Grey-Zone said:
For me the people who see Sakura as a "side character" in HF are what for VN readers are people saying that Shirou is a "typical lame shounen protagonist", or what for Fai are people that recommend watching F/0 first. Yes, it looks that stupid to me.

you are free to provide actual arguments towards Sakura's relevance beyond being a deus ex machina - asomethingsomething that causes Shirou Rin and Illya do all the great stuff and say all the great things. And then thatsomethingsomething goes back to being exactly same as before that with no consequences..

While you are grasping at straws to do that, might as well try to prove that Sakura in anyway shape or form developed as a character or that her progression (oblivioussenpaimachine >yandere >oblivious senpai machine) made any lick of sense. Because its just as fruitless.

There's a reason why even VN readers hate Sakura's guts.

Pretty much the only ones to pay any attention to her are Zero Secondaries (because omgomgKariya is totally a good guy and not tunnel vision ntr-psyhopath) and Mike. Otherwise Sakura fanbase is a vast minority in terms of VN readers.

I give Sakura credit where its due - her backstory and psychological profile. But that's all there is for her.



"[...]Endure, Sakura, your time to shine will come."
-Nasu commenting on 10th anniversy poll

Oh, so that means HF was basically confirmed already back then? That's a surprise...
Nov 2, 2014 3:21 PM

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Yeah, I agree with Grey-Zone here. But, to be honest, I'll wait until I finish this current re-read of HF before I even try to comment about the route. But, from my current perspective, saying that either Rin or Sakura are "supporting characters" in this route is just.......well, weird to me.
"Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job."

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Nov 2, 2014 3:27 PM

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I agree too, I also need to re-read HF, I will probably do it just before the movie comes out.
Nov 2, 2014 3:43 PM

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Grey-Zone said:

"[...]Endure, Sakura, your time to shine will come."
-Nasu commenting on 10th anniversy poll

Oh, so that means HF was basically confirmed already back then? That's a surprise...


Not really.

He was just considering that Sakura was behind Illya and Rider in older poll, and she made quite a leap in that poll. So he thought that her ranking will increase in the future.

To be honest, I think the ones who didn't have justice in that poll are Illya and Rider. Their time to shine will come.

Not to mention the fact that they separated Gil and Kirei votes for FSN and FZ, while keeping Saber votes intact, lol.
Nov 2, 2014 4:06 PM

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Yeah, though, what the fuck was up with that poll. Gil and Kirei got fucked over.
"Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job."

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Nov 2, 2014 4:50 PM

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chickenonthepan said:
He was just considering that Sakura was behind Illya and Rider in older poll, and she made quite a leap in that poll. So he thought that her ranking will increase in the future.
Not to mention the fact that they separated Gil and Kirei votes for FSN and FZ, while keeping Saber votes intact, lol.


Favouring Saber? Is not like she is the spoiled girl of the company
Nov 2, 2014 4:52 PM

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Well Kirei is the one who was fucked up the most with splits - with combined votes he would be on 11th place, above both Shirou and Kiritsugu and pushing our favorite Lancer out of the top 20.
Gil's combined votes would net him 8th place, putting him in front of Sakura aka senpaimachine.

As for Saber's votes, all her versions are, in fact, separate. It's just that Saber voters put all their votes into F/SN Saber. F/Z Saber is, in fact, on 119th place with 110 votes.

Funny thing is that Shirou appears only once in the poll results. Other funny thing is that, even when you combine all of the Rin's votes (F/SN, F/Z, F/E - for some reason there isn't F/HA Rin entry), it's still not enough for her to top F/SN Archer.
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If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you?

Not air.
Nov 2, 2014 5:08 PM

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And that is funny because...? Honestly I'm only counting the last poll, I don't think it's necessary to look at the previous for the character but I'm not gonna lie, the best thing about that polls is Joji Nakata beats Nasu and Takeuchi varely had votes
Nov 2, 2014 5:10 PM

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KeyToCourage said:




You want me to quote him? lol



Aurioch said:

As for Saber's votes, all her versions are, in fact, separate. It's just that Saber voters put all their votes into F/SN Saber. F/Z Saber is, in fact, on 119th place with 110 votes.


Oh lmao.
Nov 2, 2014 5:18 PM

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No I didn't? I was implying the big reason of Rider's popularity
but I think the Rider in the poll is Iskandar and not this Rider so forget it.
My, my, Sakura was fouth in the first female poll and Rin was seven, what the hell happened later? Animu?
Nov 2, 2014 5:20 PM

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KeyToCourage said:
No I didn't? I was implying the big reason of Rider's popularity
but I think the Rider in the poll is Iskandar and not this Rider so forget it.
My, my, Sakura was fouth in the first female poll and Rin was seven, what the hell happened later? Animu?


Caster second. muahaha.

I'm not so sure about the poll on wiki is a real poll or not.
Nov 2, 2014 5:25 PM

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Best waifu not Medea
Nov 2, 2014 5:32 PM

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Looking at the poll again, damn Saber and Rin are destroying the competition. Got to love how Kirei is in third, though.
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Nov 2, 2014 5:34 PM

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Don't complain disgraced Witch only has 6 votes and I don't think that would never change

edit
indeed best girl
Nov 2, 2014 5:37 PM

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insan3priest said:
Looking at the poll again, damn Saber and Rin are destroying the competition.


This is why they are doing UBW, hzzz. You are so slow.

Rin + Archer + Saber = sales.
Nov 2, 2014 5:59 PM

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chickenonthepan said:
insan3priest said:
Looking at the poll again, damn Saber and Rin are destroying the competition.


This is why they are doing UBW, hzzz. You are so slow.

Rin + Archer + Saber = sales.


Pretty sure this franchise is well past that kind of catering, though. I mean, look at how well F/Z did and it only has one of those characters.

No, I think UBW and then Heaven's Feel was the best way to do it from a story progression stand point. It's possible to sprinkle Fate elements into UBW, as we are seeing, but intermingling very different stories like UBW and HF would be fairly dumb. That, and having HF without at least UBW before it just won't work that well.
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"Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job."

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Nov 2, 2014 6:05 PM

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If they portray Shirou in a good manner, explaining his problem with detail then Fate/Zero is a good replacement for Fate route
am i gonna be killed?
Nov 2, 2014 6:23 PM

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KeyToCourage said:
If they portray Shirou in a good manner, explaining his problem with detail then Fate/Zero is a good replacement for Fate route
am i gonna be killed?


Mongrel!

Nov 2, 2014 6:40 PM

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ZeroDragon said:
KeyToCourage said:
If they portray Shirou in a good manner, explaining his problem with detail then Fate/Zero is a good replacement for Fate route
am i gonna be killed?


Mongrel!




Do you have enough baits, King of Baits!?
Nov 2, 2014 10:36 PM

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LunatikPriest said:
cupc said:


Rin Lead Girl + Heaven's Feel = Perfection

#thedream

I just can't understand your logic, Sakura is the center of Heaven's Feel. HF can't be HF without Sakura and Rin is more of a supporting character than anything else in HF, but you can always dream.


I knew someone would come up with this. What I merely meant was that IF it was possible to have someone else as the lead heroine, who Shirou being the bōzu he is falls in love with, then I would take that 100 times over Sakura. Or they just could've made Sakura a more interesting character. All she has going for her is her disgusting backstory.

I just meant that it was sort of sad how everything else was at its peak in Heaven's Feel, except for the lead heroine.
Nov 2, 2014 11:22 PM

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59 voted for Ilya?

Brb, currently tracing IP address and leaving anonymous tips to LEA. Get ready for a knock on the door, lolicon scum.
Nov 3, 2014 12:36 AM

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Rance-sama said:
59 voted for Ilya?

Brb, currently tracing IP address and leaving anonymous tips to LEA. Get ready for a knock on the door, lolicon scum.
Is your avatar Shinobu? You can't arrest the other lolicons to keep Ilya for yourself!
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Rance-sama said:
59 voted for Ilya?

Brb, currently tracing IP address and leaving anonymous tips to LEA. Get ready for a knock on the door, lolicon scum.


I do admit that one scene in the visual novel (where shirou is in illyas castle) was too tempting and I died there the first time
Nov 3, 2014 4:28 AM
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Rance-sama said:
59 voted for Ilya?

Brb, currently tracing IP address and leaving anonymous tips to LEA. Get ready for a knock on the door, lolicon scum.


I do admit that one scene in the visual novel (where shirou is in illyas castle) was too tempting and I died there the first time


Haha.. You, Me and everyone else.
Nov 3, 2014 5:12 AM

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Nov 3, 2014 5:32 AM

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J-j-j-jam in it!! And Core thanks for the German dub of UBW, damn Shinji!
Nov 3, 2014 6:00 AM

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KeyToCourage said:
J-j-j-jam in it!! And Core thanks for the German dub of UBW, damn Shinji!

That thumbnail tho
Nov 3, 2014 6:02 AM

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Perfect for a background image!
Nov 3, 2014 6:45 AM

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KeyToCourage said:
Rider's popularity

>22 votes out of 959
>popularity

Wut?
Nov 3, 2014 8:52 AM

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Crimblack said:
KeyToCourage said:
Rider's popularity

>22 votes out of 959
>popularity

Wut?

I was thinking about this

I noticed it was FZeroRider later, my bad. The link is a present for you, NSFW so drive with caution
Nov 3, 2014 2:57 PM

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Woot

Nov 3, 2014 3:15 PM

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chickenonthepan said:
Woot
Saved.
Nov 3, 2014 6:55 PM

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Rin>Super loli Rin>everyone else
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RinPriest said:
TheGrandSage23 said:
Super loli Rin hugging Super loli Sakura>Rin>everyone else


Can we Fix'd it?.


Yes we can.
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WrongPriest said:
RinPriest said:


Can we Fix'd it?.


Yes we can.


Who needs Sakura


Well okay if you want one with Sakura equal to that one here it is too:
Nov 4, 2014 3:18 AM

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WrongPriest said:
Who needs Sakura

Go away Shirou, let the ladies enjoy their time
Nov 4, 2014 7:53 PM
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Here's to your 2.35%, Best girl.






And of-course 2 reasons you should read FHA:


And 6 reasons stacked 3x2 vertically you should read Apocrypha (minor Spoilers):
Nov 5, 2014 12:45 AM

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Neither of your apocrypha spoilers contain Semiramis - your reasons are incorrect :<
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CookingPriest said:
Neither of your apocrypha spoilers contain Semiramis - your reasons are incorrect :<
Assassin of Black > Assassin of Red

I recommend dealwithit.exe

Jks I just like AoB's summoning, I haven't finished what's been translates yet.

You will hear my opinion eventually, prepare yourself.
Nov 5, 2014 11:21 AM

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Cute :x

Nov 5, 2014 11:29 AM

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Proof that Saber is the best girl:



You seriously thought Saber is my best girl? huehuehue...
Nov 5, 2014 11:38 AM

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CorePriest said:
Proof that Saber is the best girl:



You seriously thought Saber is my best girl? huehuehue...


Clearly best girl...
Nov 5, 2014 12:37 PM
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CorePriest said:
Proof that Saber is the best girl:



You seriously thought Saber is my best girl? huehuehue...


Damn, I was wondering how they were gonna handle the block part. Sadly, never got that.
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LitzSabr said:
CorePriest said:
Proof that Saber is the best girl:



You seriously thought Saber is my best girl? huehuehue...


Damn, I was wondering how they were gonna handle the block part. Sadly, never got that.
It is much better this way; looping makes it look like Berserker just kept going.
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LitzSabr said:


Damn, I was wondering how they were gonna handle the block part. Sadly, never got that.
It is much better this way; looping makes it look like Berserker just kept going.


The guy need to get GoB-ed this route, srsly though.
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LitzSabr said:
BotatoPriest said:
It is much better this way; looping makes it look like Berserker just kept going.


The guy need to get GoB-ed this route, srsly though.
If he gets GoB-ed, I'll fly to Japan and throw foul eggs at Miura.
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