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| I think their skin become harder only when they activate the kakugan/kakugans |
Arcanix said: Second try: Didn't Tsukiyama cut Kaneki without injecting him anything? I don't remember that scene all that well. I'm guessing Tsukiyama used his kagune to cut him? But I like your theory, the CCG could have in fact made tools using kagune, much like they make their quinques. Fact remains, our Quinckes are definitely different from other hybrids. GiovyExtreme said: I think their skin become harder only when they activate the kakugan/kakugans I don't think so, because when Kaneki tries to stab himself, his eyes are normal. Edit: ah, you're right. The moment he moves the knife, his eye turns red. But then, why did Yamori have to inject his victims? |
nedratjeOct 14, 2014 10:37 AM
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Arcanix said: Nah, you're right, i forgot... Second try: Didn't Tsukiyama cut Kaneki without injecting him anything? He cut Kaneki with a credit card or something :( Probably because Kaneki was starving himself to to point where he was just normal human. |
ichii_1Oct 14, 2014 10:25 AM
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nedratje said: But then, why did Yamori have to inject his victims? Because he doesn't want them to use their kagune. |
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Arcanix said: nedratje said: But then, why did Yamori have to inject his victims? Because he doesn't want them to use their kagune. Yeah, I just realized. |
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| @Arcanix I agree that they could've used "qinque steel" for the syringes if they are real hybrids that can't be pierced with regular needles. It's not like they're going to jam a regular needle into their eye at the doctor's office... Might hurt a little bit :P Some of them definitely seem to be eating regular food though, which is interesting, guess we'll have to wait and see. |
Arcanix said: CoolMorz said: I hope Sasaki is not Kaneki,after such a crazy,badass personality thanks to Yamori,I don't want him to be turned into a pussy,idiot again. You are very dumb. Whatever,I just don't like whiny MC's,Sasaki's character didn't impress me,and the way other investigators think about him is pretty lame. |
CNTRI715 said: Some of them definitely seem to be eating regular food though, which is interesting, guess we'll have to wait and see. Well it's not like Ishida will make another 143 chapters without giving us any answers right? (right? :( ) CoolMorz said: Whatever,I just don't like whiny MC's,Sasaki's character didn't impress me,and the way other investigators think about him is pretty lame. Don't make me repeat myself, thanks. |
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CoolMorz said: Arcanix said: You are very dumb. Whatever,I just don't like whiny MC's,Sasaki's character didn't impress me,and the way other investigators think about him is pretty lame. Sasaki is waaaaay more badass than Kaneki was at the start of TG. Just because he isn't mentally unstable and deranged right now like white hair Kaneki became doesn't mean he's a pussy. To me Sasaki seems like he has Kaneki's personality, with all of his sensibilities, combined with Hide's confidence. Which may in fact be because he ate Hide. |
| I re-read the chapter and gathered some info... All of Quinques are 19 years old. They have regular quinques in white cases. It looks like they were trained to use quinques first, but if it fails, they also have other kagune-like weapons. Shirazu is crazy one, so he directly attacked a ghoul without trying to use regular quinque. Maybe they are still in training of using their kagune-like weapons. They all seems to be one-eyed but which eye is red it's different for them. Special squad leader is Urie (not Sasaki). And Sasaki is not part of their squad, he's more like mentor / supervisor. Quinques squad is refered as "human research subjects" and not seen as 'proper investigators' by their colleagues. Quinque girl seems to be eating something like chips, but she also mentions she just wants to have lazy life but if it will continue like this, her stomach will crash. They have various ghouls' abilities - regenerative or good smell. What I noticed btw, Shirazu has "FUCK" tattoo'ed on his middle finger lol. They were drawing blood from them, not injecting something. Two examined was Mutsuki and squad leader - Urie. Mutsuki said "he had anemia again". So maybe those are regular blood exams just to keep an eye on those "human research subjects". Also it looks like they be freely cut with sharp things, their skin is not super hard. About Sasaki. He's drinking something in india bar (thought it might be just a coffee, since he was wondering how naan tastes like). Sasaki's fingers are normal (meant, not black -> pg 19) He used weird staff - it's probably his quinque. And Arima needed a pretext to meet with him (getting him back the book Sasaki lent him) so maybe we will get some answers. But not faster than "when the case will be solved" lol. |
| @Nanami great post |
FragOutFire said: Why am I a Berserk fan? All I ever experience is pain. We are in the eclipse and Miura has sacrificed us |
nedratje said: Arcanix said: You know, i'm pretty sure that they can make a syringe from a ghoul kagune just like Yamori had his toys made. Didn't he just inject something into (the eye of) his victims that made their skin soft and then use normal tools? Or are we talking about different toys here? Glad you said that, for a moment I almost thought I'd forgotten a key plot point.. |
Nanami said: Quinque girl seems to be eating something like chips, but she also mentions she just wants to have lazy life but if it will continue like this, her stomach will crash. wow...when you put it that way I can see the connection to them not being able to consume normal diet but at the same time they are not as repulsed to it as normal hybrids either. |
MuggleBorn said: Nanami said: Quinque girl seems to be eating something like chips, but she also mentions she just wants to have lazy life but if it will continue like this, her stomach will crash. wow...when you put it that way I can see the connection to them not being able to consume normal diet but at the same time they are not as repulsed to it as normal hybrids either. AquaWateria said: The more I read the chapter the more I feel that those newly introduced investigators aren't actual half ghouls, like the real deal. And that Haise is actually a half ghoul, which is why he's assigned as a mentor instead of a squad leader. Because why isn't he the squad leader if his rank is above Urie. Anyways it was a really great chapter. I'm loving how many hints there are in this chapter setting up the series. Can't wait for next week. And yeah that's a good point that Sasaki is a normal hybrid so he's technically not in the Quinckes squad. Anyone else think that Urie could be some kind of Quinckes clone of Sasaki/Kaneki? He looks almost exactly like Kaneki with black hair and it would make sense that they make him the leader of the Quinckes. |
R3d_Panda said: Sorry for the double post but I thought this ought to be posted separately. There's a theory going around that on page 5, the person saying "I've read this before " is actually Haise, implying that he might be getting his memories back if he is indeed Kaneki. anddd those of you who ask, " but Kaneki doesn't wear glasses" yeah I said that too and it seems there's a post from Ishida of Kaneki wearing glasses. https://twitter.com/sotonami/status/501750608185933824 Yeah I actually think it is Sasaki on that page. The glasses don't look like anything that Arima wears. Also it's the exact same spot as the last page of chapter 143. And if you buy into the whole theory that the silhouette on that page is actually Kaneki as an investigator then this all starts to make sense. Maybe he's reading one of Takatsuki's books? Considering how well he knew them as Kaneki you would think they would seem familiar even with amnesia. |
CNTRI715 said: MuggleBorn said: wow...when you put it that way I can see the connection to them not being able to consume normal diet but at the same time they are not as repulsed to it as normal hybrids either. AquaWateria said: The more I read the chapter the more I feel that those newly introduced investigators aren't actual half ghouls, like the real deal. And that Haise is actually a half ghoul, which is why he's assigned as a mentor instead of a squad leader. Because why isn't he the squad leader if his rank is above Urie. Anyways it was a really great chapter. I'm loving how many hints there are in this chapter setting up the series. Can't wait for next week. And yeah that's a good point that Sasaki is a normal hybrid so he's technically not in the Quinckes squad. Anyone else think that Urie could be some kind of Quinckes clone of Sasaki/Kaneki? He looks almost exactly like Kaneki with black hair and it would make sense that they make him the leader of the Quinckes. But urie's hair colour in the cover is purple and isn't he taller than kaneki to be his clone? |
Z4k said: But urie's hair colour in the cover is purple and isn't he taller than kaneki to be his clone? Yeah you're right, didn't notice him on the cover. He looks a lot less like Kaneki there. Looks like he's only a few cm taller than Kaneki but yeah with the purple hair it seems a lot less likely. |
| Now I think that Quinque squad members used to be normal humans, but they undergo special treatment, thus 'human research subjects'. CCG saw what happens when you fail to make human into ghoul!! So I doubt they would allow it, but at the same time they might've been pushed to do it due to Aorgiri's rise in strenght. So we have normal humans connected directly with their quinques (and thus, their squad name). They are probably kids from CCG's orphanage for children who lost their parents after ghouls attack. Shirazu's healing skill is perplexing! Because as far as I remember ghouls could regenerate thanks to RC cells easily binding together and one must be rinkaku as well. Also Urie's kagune-quinque seems to be set on his shoulder, not back. And looks totally like quinque, not kagune. So it's like they now use their own bodies instead of cases. And that leads me to think that CCG modified RC cells itself - but it doesn't make much sense why one thing is working (super healing) and other not (no hard skin). It also implies it's half-working thus just one eye is red ha ha. Okay that was long shot. Urie couldn't tell which taxi driver was a ghoul. I don't remember if Kaneki as half-ghoul could sense other ghouls (he was surprised that Nishiki was a ghoul etc.)... Urie said he has "a bit better than other humans" sense of smell so he could sense a stench of blood on his hands. Someone pointed it out ealier, but all kids have some similarities with Kaneki, but to various stages of his developement. Girl is lazy ass skipping work and just wanting to lead normal life. Mutsuki is fragile, helpless, willing to help, wears eyepatch - like Kaneki when he was working at Anteiku at first. Shirazu is one crazy shit wanting to kill more and more - like insane white Kaneki. Urie is cool-headed, determined - like Kaneki after he decided to left Anteiku. It's hard to say at this point if it's just a wink from Ishida-san or should we expect that it's important. Sasaki is part of Akira's team and at the same time mentor of Quinques team - their squad was formed few months prior the timeline in TG:re. And if you didn't realize, Urie USED Shirazu as a shield lol |
| I like the theory that Haise is Kaneki but it seems a bit far fetched...either way, I hope Kaneki is alive. But if he is, why is he working with the CCG? Brain damage? I'm looking forward to seeing how this plays out. Also hoping to see more of Juuzou! |
| [quote=Jex_Infinite I wasn't really a fan of Kaneki, so I can really get behind Sasaki. [/quote] w..what? you read tokyo ghoul for plot? i thought everyone here doesnt care about plot, they only read this shit for kaneki lol |
veqeta said: I like the theory that Haise is Kaneki but it seems a bit far fetched.. Huh, what? How is it far fetched, you should read the other pages, there's so much hinting towards Haise being Kaneki that it's almost too convenient. Imo, Ishida just likes to show off how well he knows his own manga. |
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| Maybe the blood sample thing is related to some sort of parasitic way of that "inbody" quinque situation. Maybe the ghoul part "eating" part of the blood cells, or they cannot store the rc cells properly in their kagune (if there is one). Maybe they're Quarters, not Halfs, even made out of Kaneki, a suceccefull "conversion" that was used by CCG to succeed where they failed (and Kanou succeded later on). |
| Sasaki's team doesn't seem like normal half ghouls to me. I know this is a far fetched theory but what if CCG found a way to genetically fuse a quinque with a human? It would explain why they're called quinckes instead of half ghouls and how the doctor was able to draw blood out from mutsuki. Not to mention how one of them was able to eat normal food. Next chapter will probably clear our doubts. And I do hope ishida uses this sequel as an opportunity to shed some light about Arata. I always wanted to know what happened to him. |
R3d_Panda said: huh... do these 2 look familiar ? http://mangafox.me/manga/tokyo_ghoul/vTBD/c143/9.html maybe like ... some quincke's we know ?... http://imperialscans.com/read/tokyo-ghoul-re/1-bone-1/12 http://imperialscans.com/read/tokyo-ghoul-re/1-bone-1/29 I don't think so because it was already mentioned hirako has his own squad. And their appearance don't match at all. |
| By the way, isn't 2nd chapter going to be released like, tomorrow? :D |
Nanami said: By the way, isn't 2nd chapter going to be released like, tomorrow? :D More like get leaked tomorrow.... and we most likely will get the translation on weekend. |
CharlesMarlowOct 16, 2014 8:42 AM
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Nanami said: By the way, isn't 2nd chapter going to be released like, tomorrow? :D No this chapter was supposed to be officially released on the 16th. |
Mahone7 said: I have a bad feeling these ghoul hunters have kaneki's organs in them hope im wrong and he's alive Hmm! cemlat said: So Haise is Kaneki and its a theory but his new personality might be Hide.(Since he eat Hide) So far I'm happy whit the story because I'm sure at some point he will get his memories back however if this end up whit Kaneki killing Touka or Hinami (most likely Hinami since looks like she join aogry) I'll be so depressed.... HMM! I am just happy this ":re" happened so soon after the completion of Tokyo Ghoul. Super excited to read this, and to find out what's what. |
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| The whole Hide is dead thing is stupid, I mean I can see him letting Kaneki eat his arm or leg but to just stay there while Kaneki eats him completely? :O c'mon now, Hide isn't that stupid. |
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ichii_1 said: The whole Hide is dead thing is stupid, I mean I can see him letting Kaneki eat his arm or leg but to just stay there while Kaneki eats him completely? :O c'mon now, Hide isn't that stupid. True it would be totally out of character for hide just to go and get himself killed after finally meeting kaneki. And I find it weird how everyone was sad for Amon and Seidou but no one even mentioned Hide after he disappeared. Its like he never even existed in the first place. This just convinces me even more how the magician tarot card suits him even more. Edit: how can I be so blind not noticing Sasaki's quinque? Its yukimura 1/3. That's Arima's first quinque he used in JACK. I dont know if anyone else already noticed this detail but this sure does prove some of the people's theory false that kaneki turned into sasaki's quinque. |
Z4KOct 16, 2014 12:42 PM
Silvertide said: I just read this now and I am so confused. Why do people think Sasaki is Kaneki You got to be kidding me... Kaneki is not Sasaki bro, Kaneki is dead... |
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Arcanix said: Silvertide said: I just read this now and I am so confused. Why do people think Sasaki is Kaneki You got to be kidding me... Kaneki is not Sasaki bro, Kaneki is dead... Lol you've just given up trying to explain to people huh? I don't blame you. |
CNTRI715 said: Arcanix said: You got to be kidding me... Kaneki is not Sasaki bro, Kaneki is dead... Lol you've just given up trying to explain to people huh? I don't blame you. Lol I think some people are being cautious about this because of the shock they received a month ago and they probably don't want to go over it again. |
Mahone7 said: I have a bad feeling these ghoul hunters have kaneki's organs in them hope im wrong and he's alive Yes I really hope kaneki is alive, I mean you can't kill that sweet of a character. |
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| Yeah I hope that's kaneki and he's undercover or something! |
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parfaited said: Why? did something let you down? :/I thought I would be more excited for this. Turns out i'm not. |
FragOutFire said: Why am I a Berserk fan? All I ever experience is pain. We are in the eclipse and Miura has sacrificed us |
| Hmm. Looks okay so far. But they're explaining a lot of stuff from the past manga; not sure if this is standard or a sign that we should treat it as a new manga too, thus moving onto new characters and such. What I liked about Tokyo Ghoul is that there were no clear "bad" or "good" guys, instead we got the perspective from both ghouls and investigators, however so far it seems the good guys will be the investigators and the bad guys ghouls (although I hope they change this later on). I like appearance of the rank 3 kid with the eye patch; so far the character design of all other characters seem really dull. I wonder how long it will take for the old characters to get some screen time. Only Akira so far. |
| I'd genuinely like to hear the opinion of the three people that rated this chapter with a 1/5. How was it so terrible? |
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ichii_1 said: The whole Hide is dead thing is stupid, I mean I can see him letting Kaneki eat his arm or leg but to just stay there while Kaneki eats him completely? :O c'mon now, Hide isn't that stupid. Nobody simply eats yor limbs while on berserk craving for flesh, he eats u whole, ur guts, ur brain ffs. He wasnt sane back then. |
| I think Sasaki is Kaneki but is it possible to brainwash someone in Tokyo Ghoul universe ? I haven't heard about that before. Anyway, why would they brainwash Kaneki in the first place ? I mean they could've steal his kagune and that's for it. The only conclusion I can come with that Arima foresaw that Kaneki can surpass him so he brainwashed him and recruit him in the CCG. (He also dyed his hair ?) In the upcoming chapters we will know for sure whether Sasaki is Kaneki or not. or it's just Ishida trolling us as usual, but if that's the case then we won't be able to tell in the near future :D he'll try to drag this for a while. ichii_1 said: The whole Hide is dead thing is stupid, I mean I can see him letting Kaneki eat his arm or leg but to just stay there while Kaneki eats him completely? :O c'mon now, Hide isn't that stupid. You're missing the point bro, Kaneki wasn't even conscious, he was running amok, gravely injured and hungry, it's not like he'd just be satisfied if he ate a mere arm or leg. I mean, Hide isn't the one to decide which limp/part of his body Kaneki is gonna eat. do you understand me ? maybe Hide is smart but he's weak and scrawny. If Kaneki was to attack him, Hide'd be a dead body in seconds. Anyway, we don't even know for sure whether it was really Hide who was standing there or just a mere hallucination. |
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