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Sep 15, 2014 12:39 PM

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mayukachan said:
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Not to mention this thread's regulars are always repeatedly bringing up the same shows over and over and over again.

I would mention more but I'm pretty sure most people haven't seen it (or wouldn't give it a chance) or respect the genre.


Then the producers marketed it wrong.

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Examples: Samurai Flamenco


Oh god no.
Sep 15, 2014 12:40 PM

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fst said:

Maybe I should try and bring up another Gundam discussion shitshow by saying that CCA wasn't really that bad.
No saying CCA is bad starts shit storms, sayings its good doesnt really do anything, its generally a pretty well recieved movie with a vocal haterbase.....like me

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Sep 15, 2014 12:43 PM

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fst said:
Then the producers marketed it wrong.

mayukachan said:
Examples: Samurai Flamenco


Oh god no.

Yes. I went there. I actually found it good. I only give it an 8 to balance out the hate.

And I don't think it was marketed wrong but the majority of the anime watching audience may be prejudiced towards a few shows I listed. (like males)
Sep 15, 2014 12:43 PM

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JizzyHitler said:
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Maybe I should try and bring up another Gundam discussion shitshow by saying that CCA wasn't really that bad.
No saying CCA is bad starts shit storms, sayings its good doesnt really do anything, its generally a pretty well recieved movie with a vocal haterbase.....like me


Hey, I never said it was good....
Sep 15, 2014 12:44 PM

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No, I assumed you said it was bad.
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Mirai Nikki is the greatest anime ever


















in the "so bad it's good" category
Sep 15, 2014 12:46 PM

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sumusiko said:
Mahouka is overhated, deal with it. He's not even that godlike


+1... This show is so overhated. I mean the incest isnt a wincest and all and trust me.. Tatsuya is OP. I mean look at the start of the second ending, he looks godly. Either way this show is overhated and deserves to be higher than SAO 2 at the least.


I notice he owns 3 harems as well. School council, engineer club and one more.. It might be two but meh. I can see where Godtsuya comes from.
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Sep 15, 2014 12:47 PM

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I clarified my post using quotes.

Also, it seems I am really bad at starting shitstorms. Damnit.

But Samurai Flamenco is a fucking mess. I'm still not sure whether or not I actually enjoyed it.
Sep 15, 2014 12:48 PM

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Mahouka is meh. Not even worth discussing about other than the lols moments.
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CCA is a perfectly watchable movie that is visually great but it is pretty terrible in terms of story and characters.
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Could someone explain to me why does MAL hate this anime so much? It dropped by yet another 0.01, this is just ridiculous, it's already out of the top 50. I bet it gets hate for the simple fact of being an Urobuchi written show, just like Psycho-Pass and Fate/Zero.

Speaking of Fate/, Fate/Stay Night 2006 anime is overrated as hell. I can't wait for Ufotable's UBW which will most likely erase most of my memories of the 2006 abomination of an anime.
Sep 15, 2014 12:54 PM

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Could someone explain to me why does MAL hate this anime so much? It dropped by yet another 0.01, this is just ridiculous, it's already out of the top 50. I bet it gets hate for the simple fact of being an Urobuchi written show, just like Psycho-Pass and Fate/Zero.

Speaking of Fate/, Fate/Stay Night 2006 anime is overrated as hell. I can't wait for Ufotable's UBW which will most likely erase most of my memories of the 2006 abomination of an anime.


So glad I dropped F/SN. You make it sound as if it was a mistake.
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Could someone explain to me why does MAL hate this anime so much? It dropped by yet another 0.01, this is just ridiculous, it's already out of the top 50. I bet it gets hate for the simple fact of being an Urobuchi written show, just like Psycho-Pass and Fate/Zero.
shallow characters and a very slow start
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It's still rated too high for its own good. lol

I don't care much about Urobuchi. I don't really care for his other works, but I do like Psycho Pass.
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Okashi--chan said:
No one can suffer from the SAO fall tho, it was ranked 74 or something, SnK is still kinda safe.


A part of me wants to watch SAO but there are a ridiculous amount of people saying its terrible, and a ridiculous amont who say thats its plain great...not sure whom should I trust
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I felt like I was smoking some serious weed while watching Madoka Magica.
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Sep 15, 2014 12:59 PM

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hybreezy said:
CCA is a perfectly watchable movie that is visually great but it is pretty terrible in terms of story and characters.
I cant forgive it because of that, which is a shame cause action wise its one of the few moments in gundam that really ever captured my interest, like seriously the fights are phenomenal especially that gunfight between amuro and char near the end, but i watched gundam for the story and characters and to see 2 of the best in the franchise be so lazilly handled just let a awful taste in my nouth

At the very least gundam unicorn more than made up for my CCA distaste, I think that movie payed more respect and care for tomino's characters than tomino ever did

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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fst said:
But Samurai Flamenco is a fucking mess. I'm still not sure whether or not I actually enjoyed it.

I enjoyed watching how it went about weaving itself into a damn mess but if I could turn back time I would convince myself to just not pick it up at all.
Not personally satisfying in the long run for me and memorable for all the wrong reasons.
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fst said:
I clarified my post using quotes.

Also, it seems I am really bad at starting shitstorms. Damnit.

But Samurai Flamenco is a fucking mess. I'm still not sure whether or not I actually enjoyed it.

Ah, okay.

Messy yes but the same goes to other plot twist/shock factor heavy shows too yet they're so widely received. I liked Samumenco for what its worth and how it executed everything. The pacing is yuck and characters were average but it was a fun experience and I found it empowering at times (the themes that were there).

HxH_fan said:
A part of me wants to watch SAO but there are a ridiculous amount of people saying its terrible, and a ridiculous amont who say thats its plain great...not sure whom should I trust

Watch it just so you can shit on it lol
There comes a time when you watch shows just to laugh at it.
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Mikatarukito said:
sumusiko said:
Mahouka is overhated, deal with it. He's not even that godlike


+1... This show is so overhated. I mean the incest isnt a wincest and all and trust me.. Tatsuya is OP. I mean look at the start of the second ending, he looks godly. Either way this show is overhated and deserves to be higher than SAO 2 at the least.


I notice he owns 3 harems as well. School council, engineer club and one more.. It might be two but meh. I can see where Godtsuya comes from.


Mahouka is a joke series. From hype to flop in a matter of 3 episodes. LN readers, " it will get better" That sadly never happen.
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Mikatarukito said:
So glad I dropped F/SN. You make it sound as if it was a mistake.
F/SN 2006 anime is mediocre at best. With sub-par animation even for its time.
The main character is just a sexist dork and there are a lot of unexplained 'asspulls.'

JD2411 said:
shallow characters and a very slow start
I believe you have not paid enough attention to the show in question. But seeing as you're the one who claimed Fate/ is filled with plotholes, I am not surprised. The slow start isn't even that bad either.

mayukachan said:
It's still rated too high for its own good.
It deserves way more and it should be in the top 30.

mayukachan said:
I don't care much about Urobuchi. I don't really care for his other works, but I do like Psycho Pass.
Psycho-Pass is probably Urobuchi's most hated show. Actually that would be Gargantia I guess, but PP sure gets a lot of hate. It is also the go-to example or 'proof' for people when they claim that Urobuchi is pretentious.
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Botato said:
mayukachan said:
I don't care much about Urobuchi. I don't really care for his other works, but I do like Psycho Pass.
Psycho-Pass is probably Urobuchi's most hated show. Actually that would be Gargantia I guess, but PP sure gets a lot of hate. It is also the go-to example or 'proof' for people when they claim that Urobuchi is pretentious.

Seriously? Wow. I thought Gargantia would be the most hated. Or A.Zero
Sep 15, 2014 1:07 PM
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im gonna start psycho pass today sometime

it is worth the watch right?
Sep 15, 2014 1:07 PM

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keragamming said:


Mahouka is a joke,
Goddam right.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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keragamming said:
Mahouka is a joke series. From hype to flop in a matter of 3 episodes. LN readers, " it will get better" That sadly never happen.
It is a great series. And it did in fact get better.
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I rarely call things pretentious but SAO II's current arc is so pretentious lol

JOAOAA said:
im gonna start psycho pass today sometime

it is worth the watch right?

ya

Botato said:
keragamming said:
Mahouka is a joke series. From hype to flop in a matter of 3 episodes. LN readers, " it will get better" That sadly never happen.
It is a great series. And it did in fact get better.

you mean in the nonexistent sequel
Sep 15, 2014 1:11 PM

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JizzyHitler said:
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CCA is a perfectly watchable movie that is visually great but it is pretty terrible in terms of story and characters.
I cant forgive it because of that, which is a shame cause action wise its one of the few moments in gundam that really ever captured my interest, like seriously the fights are phenomenal especially that gunfight between amuro and char near the end, but i watched gundam for the story and characters and to see 2 of the best in the franchise be so lazilly handled just let a awful taste in my nouth

At the very least gundam unicorn more than made up for my CCA distaste, I think that movie payed more respect and care for tomino's characters than tomino ever did


Completely understandable

I think for me by the time I was finally getting fed up with its stupid bullshit it was practically over so it numbed the pain. That and as you said it has some really good fights and mecha in general which carry its sorry ass. It still definitely features some of the worst characters/character moments ever packed into 90 minutes of a Gundam.

But hey Char on a horse...
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JOAOAA said:
im gonna start psycho pass today sometime

it is worth the watch right?


watch the new edit version, the original was full of quality animation
Sep 15, 2014 1:12 PM

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mayukachan said:
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Psycho-Pass is probably Urobuchi's most hated show. Actually that would be Gargantia I guess, but PP sure gets a lot of hate. It is also the go-to example or 'proof' for people when they claim that Urobuchi is pretentious.

Seriously? Wow. I thought Gargantia would be the most hated. Or A.Zero
Gargantia IS his most hated show. But you should consider that he didn't write all of the episodes for it, so it's technically more of a collaboration. Psycho-Pass gets the most vocal hate though.

Gargantia is more of an Urobuchi show than A.Z is. In interviews he has revealed that the story and characters in A.Z turned out to be nothing like he envisioned. And it seems he didn't even come up with some of them from the first place.
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I don't know where all the hate for Urobuchi is coming from, but all of his works I have seen ( Madoka Magica, Psycho-Pass, Fate/Zero ) are just amazing.

And Madoka Magica only takes like 2 episodes to get into and since all the ''it gets really dark'' talk really kept me interested. I really don't know why people don't like it. I mean considering it is a magical girl anime it is damn good.
Sep 15, 2014 1:13 PM

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I don't even know who Urobuchi is lol.
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Madoka Movie 3: The Rebellion Story is underrated, it should be in the top 20.
i don't understand why people hate it, i mean Homura did everything right.
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hybreezy said:
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I cant forgive it because of that, which is a shame cause action wise its one of the few moments in gundam that really ever captured my interest, like seriously the fights are phenomenal especially that gunfight between amuro and char near the end, but i watched gundam for the story and characters and to see 2 of the best in the franchise be so lazilly handled just let a awful taste in my nouth

At the very least gundam unicorn more than made up for my CCA distaste, I think that movie payed more respect and care for tomino's characters than tomino ever did


Completely understandable

I think for me by the time I was finally getting fed up with its stupid bullshit it was practically over so it numbed the pain. That and as you said it has some really good fights and mecha in general which carry its sorry ass. It still definitely features some of the worst characters/character moments ever packed into 90 minutes of a Gundam.

But hey Char on a horse...
Since 079 got the origin remake and currently zeta is supposedly getting the same with zeta define, heres hoping CCA gets one as well.....that and i honest t god want a ZZ remake cause if they just drop the kid friendly BS and handle the whole story like they did the colony drop arc in the middle of the series it'd be a great fucking entry.

And char on a horse is nothing compared to G gundam, domon in a mech on a mechanized horse piloted by a real horse flying through the atmosphere into space, god damn G gundam was fun as hell

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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I like Madoka to a certain extent, but I like other shows from the same genre even more like NGE or Mawaru Penguindrum which does the dark/mindfuck/psychological even better imho. And the fact hat Madoka gets overhyped also affects my thoughts about it.

Wintovisky said:
I don't even know who Urobuchi is lol.

The writer for those shows mentioned.
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Okashi--chan said:
Madoka Movie 3: The Rebellion Story is underrated, it should be in the top 20.
i don't understand why people hate it, i mean Homura did everything right.


i liked the cake song

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Okashi--chan said:
Madoka Movie 3: The Rebellion Story is underrated, it should be in the top 20.
i don't understand why people hate it, i mean Homura did everything right.
People think the writers shit on the characters, which is not correct I believe.

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you mean in the nonexistent sequel
I mean halfway through the second arc.
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NGE does the psychological thing right? Lol.
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Botato said:
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you mean in the nonexistent sequel
I mean halfway through the second arc.

Olympics? Yokohama? What?

Wintovisky said:
NGE does the psychological thing right? Lol.

#2deep4u ;)
no but seriously, yeah it did. I didn't like watching it but it was really relatable and touched on key aspects of being a human and shit like that
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JOAOAA said:
i liked the cake song


Me too

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Okashi--chan said:
Madoka Movie 3: The Rebellion Story is underrated, it should be in the top 20.
i don't understand why people hate it, i mean Homura did everything right.
People think the writers shit on the characters, which is not correct I believe.

people think too much
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Well I haven't seen NGE yet, so Madoka was the first show that featured more mindfuckery and dark twists, whatever you call it. But if I saw NGE first I would probably like Madoka less, considering I would even like NGE.
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Zergneedsfood said:
Okashi--chan said:
Madoka Movie 3: The Rebellion Story is underrated, it should be in the top 20.
i don't understand why people hate it, i mean Homura did everything right.
Homura did nothing wrong.

Also Madoka 3 is better than the TV show. :P
I know that Homura did nothing wrong, also i agree the movie was better then the series.
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I like Madoka but I hate how over-saturated its become.
Buy this Madoka toilet paper!
Buy this Madoka toothpaste!
PLS.
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Botato said:
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So glad I dropped F/SN. You make it sound as if it was a mistake.
F/SN 2006 anime is mediocre at best. With sub-par animation even for its time.
The main character is just a sexist dork and there are a lot of unexplained 'asspulls.'
Is it more prominent than in the VN? Shirou came off as bit sexist at times in the VN to me.

Speaking of which I'm super hyped for UBW now, I'm almost done with the Fate route and its been great so far. Its already my pick for AotS for the Fall, although that might be in part due to the fact that Fall season looks really meh. From the PVs its unlikely that UBW will disappoint especially with ufotable animating it.
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mayukachan said:
#2deep4u ;)
no but seriously, yeah it did. I didn't like watching it but it was really relatable and touched on key aspects of being a human and shit like that


The whole psychological thing was a joke, in my opinion. Pretentious as fuck. No wonder why it has so many "intellectual" fans who probably think they know more about the human mind than most of the big psychologists out there.
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I like Madoka but I hate how over-saturated its become.
Buy this Madoka toilet paper!
Buy this Madoka toothpaste!
PLS.
now for sayaka themed preparation H

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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mayukachan said:
Olympics? Yokohama? What?
1st arc = Enrollment
2nd arc = 9 schools competition

It sounds like you are not even watching the show.
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Feaor said:
Botato said:
F/SN 2006 anime is mediocre at best. With sub-par animation even for its time.
The main character is just a sexist dork and there are a lot of unexplained 'asspulls.'
Is it more prominent than in the VN? Shirou came off as bit sexist at times in the VN to me.
"A bit" is quite the understatement if you ask me.

Now that I think back on it, the least aggravating part of Mahouka was probably the enrollment arc, cause at the time I still had no idea what I was getting into.
It just kept getting worse and worse after the first arc.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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When people repeatedly tell you "this show is so deep" and "this is a masterpiece", you begin to like it less when you do watch it.

But hey, I'm one of those people who preach my love about a show to people too.

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mayukachan said:
Olympics? Yokohama? What?
1st arc = Enrollment
2nd arc = 9 schools competition

It sounds like you are not even watching the show.

lol fuck off thanks
The "9 schools competition" honestly felt like filler and did not contribute anything important to the story.

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mayukachan said:
#2deep4u ;)
no but seriously, yeah it did. I didn't like watching it but it was really relatable and touched on key aspects of being a human and shit like that


The whole psychological thing was a joke, in my opinion. Pretentious as fuck. No wonder why it has so many "intellectual" fans who probably think they know more about the human mind than most of the big psychologists out there.

I admit I didn't understand it as a whole, but calling it pretentious is only valid if you do understand it. :| I'm not even a fan of it, but I thought it was well done in portraying broken characters.
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parfaited said:
I like Madoka but I hate how over-saturated its become.
Buy this Madoka toilet paper!
Buy this Madoka toothpaste!
PLS.


Well I am glad I live in a country where anime is almost unknown. :D I don't have to deal with this stuff. :D
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mayukachan said:
When people repeatedly tell you "this show is so deep" and "this is a masterpiece", you begin to like it less when you do watch it.
not replying to you necessarily but rather to use it as a point, this is probably among the weakest reasons to ever dislike or discredit a show, if you cannot control your own expectations going into something regardless of what the "fans" tell you then its your fucking fault for setting up expectations, a obnoxious fanbase does not magically change the show's quality its exactly the same, if the show had a non existent fanbase it wouldnt be better nor worse.

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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