| personally I prefer the manga. Some scenes adapted in the anime are really boring while in the manga they are more interesting. Also, I didn't like the fact that they switched two arcs (they put first the arc with tsukiyama and then the dove arc). I guess they had their purpose though. I am really curious to see how the series will end, they have a lot of things to show in only 4 episodes. |
| I really, really hope another studio buys the rights from Studio Pierrot. This manga would have been a great fit with a studio like Madhouse or Production I.G. Especially Madhouse since Hunter x Hunter is coming to an end. The manga is just getting better and better with every chapter. It's a pity that it was adapted too soon, by a studio that isn't good at adapting these series. |
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Fullmetal89 said: I really, really hope another studio buys the rights from Studio Pierrot. This manga would have been a great fit with a studio like Madhouse or Production I.G. Especially Madhouse since Hunter x Hunter is coming to an end. The manga is just getting better and better with every chapter. It's a pity that it was adapted too soon, by a studio that isn't good at adapting these series. i would love to see madhouse's version of TG |
Fullmetal89 said: I really, really hope another studio buys the rights from Studio Pierrot. This manga would have been a great fit with a studio like Madhouse or Production I.G. Especially Madhouse since Hunter x Hunter is coming to an end. The manga is just getting better and better with every chapter. It's a pity that it was adapted too soon, by a studio that isn't good at adapting these series. the mangaka probably didnt expect tokyo ghoul to get anime. and he probably like mashiro and takagi who desperately want anime adaptation. and shitty pierrot take advantage of this with their sweet words to get the right of TG from mangaka well done i bet he is crying right now that his dark seinen manga turned into shonen battle anime worse than naruto |
AironicallyHuman said: Glad someone is in my boat, having started with the anime, read the manga, understood the complaints and still being left scratching head over the amount of hatred in this thread. I can see where the angry 'read manga before anime; enraged over fast-paced adaptation' people are coming from. I really can. I mentioned the Touka tsuntsun-to-tsundere issue caused by the rearranging / cuts and Kaneki does come across stupider/weaker without his internal monologues. There are definite problems that could've been avoided with more episodes. Not even arguing that point. ...but, with the benefit of not starting with the manga, I'm not blinded by affection for it. The pacing is slow, the story scattered and the upcoming arc destroys all the goodwill the series builds up by turning the series into an even worse paced shounen battle manga. It isn't perfect. I actually think the anime has a better chance with the next arc by cutting out all the CCG / battle manga bullshit and focusing on Kaneki. It's the sort of series where an adaptation that skips some things works. I certainly don't think it's a poor representation of the manga: it'll serve its purpose and create new fans. I think similar stuff but it's a bit too late at this point. I made it to episode 8 and Tsukiyama's arc took a lot of spotlight it shouldn't, other characters were in for development. That arc alone devolves into battle shonen and dooms all of the following. |
ninjastarforcex said: Fullmetal89 said: I really, really hope another studio buys the rights from Studio Pierrot. This manga would have been a great fit with a studio like Madhouse or Production I.G. Especially Madhouse since Hunter x Hunter is coming to an end. The manga is just getting better and better with every chapter. It's a pity that it was adapted too soon, by a studio that isn't good at adapting these series. the mangaka probably didnt expect tokyo ghoul to get anime. and he probably like mashiro and takagi who desperately want anime adaptation. and shitty pierrot take advantage of this with their sweet words to get the right of TG from mangaka well done i bet he is crying right now that his dark seinen manga turned into shonen battle anime worse than naruto With the money he is getting from the anime boost I believe he is crying but not of sadness but of pure joy. |
bigivelfhqAug 28, 2014 11:58 AM
Cunning said: Fullmetal89 said: I really, really hope another studio buys the rights from Studio Pierrot. This manga would have been a great fit with a studio like Madhouse or Production I.G. Especially Madhouse since Hunter x Hunter is coming to an end. The manga is just getting better and better with every chapter. It's a pity that it was adapted too soon, by a studio that isn't good at adapting these series. i would love to see madhouse's version of TG Kinda sad to hear your guys' opinions to be like this. But I would also love to see what MH would do with it. |
| I can't believe the ignorance here, just kidding, this is MAL. Lol@ the Madhouse people. Just because HxH turned out well, doesn't mean Madhouse is some god studio. Everybody seem to ignore the badly received adaptions, sigh. And no, another studio, doesn't just go and buy the rights from another studio, nor the publishers would do something so extremely pointless. But what do you care, you filthy westerns, with your pirating. ninjastarforcex said: the mangaka probably didnt expect tokyo ghoul to get anime. and he probably like mashiro and takagi who desperately want anime adaptation. and shitty pierrot take advantage of this with their sweet words to get the right of TG from mangaka well done i bet he is crying right now that his dark seinen manga turned into shonen battle anime worse than naruto Could you be more of a mindless ignorant typical internet guy. The publishers are usually the ones who approach a studio, to do the job, not the other way around. ''Sweet words'', lol wow. No, that is probably not true, since the anime did it's job well, and gave the manga good boosts. |
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tsudecimo said: I can't believe the ignorance here, just kidding, this is MAL. Lol@ the Madhouse people. Just because HxH turned out well, doesn't mean Madhouse is some god studio. Everybody seem to ignore the badly received adaptions, sigh. And no, another studio, doesn't just go and buy the rights from another studio, nor the publishers would do something so extremely pointless. But what do you care, you filthy westerns, with your pirating. I wonder where you're getting the idea of people thinking that Madhouse is God. All I see are people being curious of seeing what Madhouse could do with it, or that TG would be a good fit for them. Also, that's pretty damn racist. "I can't believe the ignorance here." |
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FreaXoid said: Shame that doesn't apply since it's not just skipping chapters that's the problem. |
| Yeah, it's a faithful adaptation. |
zxcasdqwecat said: Yeah, it's a faithful adaptation. Bullshit. The gourmet arc contradicts that claim |
Darklight0303 said: zxcasdqwecat said: Yeah, it's a faithful adaptation. Bullshit. The gourmet arc contradicts that claim Uhm, it's still faithful. Just because something happens before doesn't change the whole thing and developments are the same. |
| Then I guess I will be reading the manga, because I find the anime to be very poor. Somebody said that only the music and voice acting was winning over the manga, and since I don't really like the voices certain characters have, especially that terrible main character, I would best read the manga. I just hope he's not the whiny little bitch in it, like he's in the anime. It's not often I see bad characters like that. Though then again, most of the characters are pretty shallow so far. |
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Vikopaulum said: Then I guess I will be reading the manga, because I find the anime to be very poor. Somebody said that only the music and voice acting was winning over the manga, and since I don't really like the voices certain characters have, especially that terrible main character, I would best read the manga. I just hope he's not the whiny little bitch in it, like he's in the anime. It's not often I see bad characters like that. Though then again, most of the characters are pretty shallow so far. I' d comment but I'd repeat myself with the review I made (full of typos and grammar horrors because I didn't feel like proof reading), goes for both anime and manga. It doesn't really change and they need a better anime execution, reasons why 12 episodes is too little to deal with and they cut stuff. If anything you should've read it before because it's censor free. |
zugzw4ngAug 29, 2014 12:51 AM
zxcasdqwecat said: I' d comment but I'd repeat myself with the review I made (full of typos and grammar horrors because I didn't feel like proof reading). I feel like reporting your review just because it's such a fucking awful read. |
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Vikopaulum said: Then I guess I will be reading the manga, because I find the anime to be very poor. Somebody said that only the music and voice acting was winning over the manga, and since I don't really like the voices certain characters have, especially that terrible main character, I would best read the manga. I just hope he's not the whiny little bitch in it, like he's in the anime. It's not often I see bad characters like that. Though then again, most of the characters are pretty shallow so far. They have been cutting out tons of characterization and character development and that is one of my bigger problems with this adaption. I don't think that skipping small scenes or reordering some stuff automatically equals bad. But, they are constantly doing pointless random skipping and changing on details (sometimes on some pretty important stuff) which end up creating plot holes, inconsistencies, or other problems with this adaption. They also overly rush many of these episodes. Yes, there are some good changes but I find more bad than the good. I also know that some people are fine with the anime even after reading the manga, but imo, this is by no means a good adaption but it's not the most terrible thing out there either. That's if they don't butcher what comes next at least. Edit: I want to rant on how I hate how they've changed Kaneki's character too but I'm too lazy e_e |
UrcanpyAug 29, 2014 1:16 AM
| Everything could be better, it's just the manga is fundamentally messy. For example Gourmet's arc introduces stuff like regeneration boosted from eating flesh and yet Rize is supposed to be dead with a bonk. If you read the manga, so that I don't have to spoil stuff, you've seen this was in need of fixes and it has been fixed in ways that are detrimental to what you've read in the past-it makes a lot of stuff pointless. |
zugzw4ngAug 29, 2014 1:16 AM
RaininChocolate said: They have been cutting out tons of characterization and character development and that is one of my bigger problems with this adaption. I don't think that skipping small scenes or reordering some stuff automatically equals bad. But, they are constantly doing pointless random skipping and changing on details (sometimes on some pretty important stuff) which end up creating plot holes, inconsistencies, or other problems with this adaption. They also overly rush many of these episodes. Yes, there are some good changes but I find more bad than the good. I also know that some people are fine with the anime even after reading the manga, but imo, this is by no means a good adaption but it's not the most terrible thing out there either. That's if they don't butcher what comes next at least. Which is why I'm not a fan of 12 episode adaptions, but hey, what can I do? |
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zxcasdqwecat said: Everything could be better, it's just the manga is fundamentally messy. For example Gourmet's arc introduces stuff like regeneration boosted from eating flesh and yet Rize is supposed to be dead with a bonk. If you read the manga, so that I don't have to spoil stuff, you've seen this was in need of fixes and it has been fixed in ways that are detrimental to what you've read in the past-it makes a lot of stuff pointless. It may boost their regeneration but it doesn't mean they're invincible. Rize is a Rinkaku Ghoul with greater regenerative abilities but because of this their cells have weaker bonds and break apart more easily. The impact from the falling beams probably broke her body pretty well. Also, I'm not sure if you're referring to when Tsukiyama's eyes healed so quickly, but that was because Touka is an Ukaku Ghoul who aren't very heavy hitters, plus Touka was weakened at that time. Btw, I haven't found it to be fundamentally messy yet. I agree that the manga is not perfect and nothing is. It does have slower pacing at times (personally I'm fine with it) which could be sped up a bit but lets just say they sped it up too much and skip interesting stuff too. It would be great if they would've just gave this more episodes or didn't try to cram so much into 12 episodes while adding filler at the same time. |
UrcanpyAug 29, 2014 1:52 AM
RaininChocolate said: zxcasdqwecat said: Everything could be better, it's just the manga is fundamentally messy. For example Gourmet's arc introduces stuff like regeneration boosted from eating flesh and yet Rize is supposed to be dead with a bonk. If you read the manga, so that I don't have to spoil stuff, you've seen this was in need of fixes and it has been fixed in ways that are detrimental to what you've read in the past-it makes a lot of stuff pointless. It may boost their regeneration but it doesn't mean they're invincible. Rize is a Rinkaku Ghoul with greater regenerative abilities but because of this their cells have weaker bonds and break apart more easily. The impact from the falling beams probably broke her body pretty well. Also, I'm not sure if you're referring to when Tsukiyama's eyes healed so quickly, but that was because Touka is an Ukaku Ghoul who aren't very heavy hitters, plus Touka was weakened at that time. Btw, I haven't found it to be fundamentally messy yet. I agree that the manga is not perfect and nothing is. It does have slower pacing at times (personally I'm fine with it) which could be sped up a bit but lets just say they sped it up too much and skip interesting stuff too. It would be great if they would've just gave this more episodes or didn't try to cram so much into 12 episodes while adding filler at the same time. See what this arc was all about: rpg stuff which cause dysfunctions. The spoiler content is the fixer both rizu and tsuk needed and go into and that makes this whole thing pointless just to fix a single hole:p Even after major twists tsuk isn't that influential as a character and that's because he's not meant to be one to begin with. He's bisex and stays in the background like most girls in shonens. His main contribution is given and that's it |
zugzw4ngAug 29, 2014 2:19 AM
zxcasdqwecat said: RaininChocolate said: It may boost their regeneration but it doesn't mean they're invincible. Rize is a Rinkaku Ghoul with greater regenerative abilities but because of this their cells have weaker bonds and break apart more easily. The impact from the falling beams probably broke her body pretty well. Also, I'm not sure if you're referring to when Tsukiyama's eyes healed so quickly, but that was because Touka is an Ukaku Ghoul who aren't very heavy hitters, plus Touka was weakened at that time. Btw, I haven't found it to be fundamentally messy yet. I agree that the manga is not perfect and nothing is. It does have slower pacing at times (personally I'm fine with it) which could be sped up a bit but lets just say they sped it up too much and skip interesting stuff too. It would be great if they would've just gave this more episodes or didn't try to cram so much into 12 episodes while adding filler at the same time. See what this arc was all about: rpg stuff which cause dysfunctions. The spoiler content is the fixer both rizu and tsuk needed and go into and that makes this whole thing pointless just to fix a single hole:p Even after major twists tsuk isn't that influential as a character and that's because he's not meant to be one to begin with. He's bisex and stays in the background like most girls in shonens. His main contribution is given and that's it Your point being? It's fine if you don't like something but you only seem interested in bashing the series and most of what you've said is just nonsensical stuff. Nice troll review btw. Gonna ignore you now ^_^ |
| Don't know how make things clearer, I was pretty honest. |
zxcasdqwecat said: Don't know how make things clearer, I was pretty honest. Just read your review. Nice troll |
2-Kawaii said: zxcasdqwecat said: Don't know how make things clearer, I was pretty honest. Just read your review. Nice troll No, grammar horrors aside the review is fine. Considering the main source that is Dorohedoro this could have been a whole different thing people would talk about forever, dealing with issues like identity and racism. Sadly it hurts itself in various ways. |
| The anime isn't bad, but obviously the manga is way better like with any other adaptation. (Seriously is there any anime that's better than their manga). The thing ruining the anime for me is the censoring, so unnecessary. |
amare135 said: The anime isn't bad, but obviously the manga is way better like with any other adaptation. (Seriously is there any anime that's better than their manga). The thing ruining the anime for me is the censoring, so unnecessary. I know of one and that's Chrno Crusade |
Darklight0303 said: The Death Note manga also, while still being a great read overall, is very dry in comparison with its anime adaptation.amare135 said: The anime isn't bad, but obviously the manga is way better like with any other adaptation. (Seriously is there any anime that's better than their manga). The thing ruining the anime for me is the censoring, so unnecessary. I know of one and that's Chrno Crusade jreginald said: You silly. Madhouse IS God.I wonder where you're getting the idea of people thinking that Madhouse is God, |
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| Oh, it is really bad. This had an opportunity to be on a Attack on Titan level. Had this been an 24 episode anime without censoring, it would be one of the best. Manga is great, and it is better than anime (Imho). I am really disappointed that it didn't adapt it as it should have. |
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| As I understand it, it seems that the major problem with this adaptation is the way Studio Pierrot left something important for the purposes of squeeze in more chapters possible in 12 episodes. Moral: it's rushed. I've read 1 chapter of the manga, but this show honestly gave me the will to go read it more. By the way, I agree with those who think censorships are often bad. |
| After i read the manga, i am decided that i will just stick to the manga and watch the rest just for the sake it introduced me to the manga. It's too rushed. Why it have to be 12 episode anyway... I think it can easily become 24 considering the manga actually has many fans. |
mbdsquad said: 2-Kawaii said: Just read your review. Nice troll http://myanimelist.net/profile/zxcasdqwecat/reviews I'm seriously baffled as to why there's 31 people who found this review helpful. Dorohedoro? The hell? I stopped reading your review after you compare that with TG. Oh man. It's not even a secret but you can give a look to themes like identity and racism. No dark past for the main guy though. Or tropes. We got artificial main characters, stores, masks, flesh as powder as drug, gender swaps or bi-looks, mad doctors, tools as weapons (hammers etc) and you name it. It was labeled as dorohedoro for dummies long ago. I didn't compare the two though, everything in that link is about TG. |
zugzw4ngSep 3, 2014 12:35 AM
Fireflydrake said: Darklight0303 said: I know of one and that's Chrno Crusade Awww, hell naw! I think this reviewer (http://www.anime-planet.com/users/Morwen/reviews/453) put it best--the anime seems to be dark just for the sake of being dark, and at the end it seems like everything the characters did was for nothing. I enjoyed the manga way more, despite having watched the anime first. (Admittedly I do have a weakness for happier endings, which might have influenced my opinion. Still, gotta protest on this one XD) ANYHOO. Horror / gore isn't usually my genre, but I do find this one pretty interesting (reminds me of Shiki), so maybe I'll check out the manga once it ends. As someone who hasn't read the manga, I'm still enjoying the anime (the rushed factor aside--I didn't realize it was only going for 12 episodes, wow!), but I'm also curious as to how the manga handled some of the more hectic things that went down. Like the really creepy gourmet. X'D The manga went full scifi with aliens out of bloody nowhere. THat was my main problem |
mbdsquad said: Darklight0303 said: The manga went full scifi with aliens out of bloody nowhere. THat was my main problem No no I was talking about the Chrno Crusade Manga |
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| They skipped like what? 40 chapters worth of content? |
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| Oh most defiantly, but what else could you except from Pierrot. Really wish madhouse got a hold of this. |
| Still a better anime than Akame Ga Kill Main Characters Before Any Development. I'm actually really enjoying the anime, probably because I haven't read the manga yet. Blame the person who decided to make this 12 episodes. |
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| The anime still makes sense but after reading the manga I see they mixed up all the chapters. Its all over the place and theyre rushing to fit like, 80 chapters into 12 episodes, unless they plan to end with a cliffhanger, which is dumb because then they wouldnt have to rush/mix everything in the first place. Its just like how Deadman Wonderland was handled and that never got a 2nd season. Id recc watching TG anime before reading the manga to avoid any disappointment + because obviously its always a plus to see animated action scenes. Also the anime developed the Hinami arc better than the manga |
| Truth be told, I wouldn't call it bad. This adaptation is weird in the sense it is adapting A LOT of content but without being absolutely rushed (unlike Brynhildr). All in all the key content is still there. It skips some stuff, but isn't majorly relevant. All in all the adaptation is rather faithful of the manga. I do find the manga better for a more slowed down and more immersive storytelling, but the anime isn't bad at all. |
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