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Jul 31, 2014 3:05 AM

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techstepman said:
"its their property and they have the right to do whatever the hell the want with it" is what i wanna say but i've had enough of their xenophobia...they want my money?then open up their pop culture trade and start exporting stuff. Illegal is illegal so i cant say anything about those sites, but instead of going after those people they should focus more on distributing their products in a cheap and fast way to the people who cant wait to consume them. As far as i know the only gateway to japan trade is for europe through England and generally the US. I wont get up and get in a plane to go to England or the US just for otaku shopping. My money is sitting right here. They should bring their products here, OR it wont be difficult to create an international site in the net to "rent" anime or pay a sub and its "watch all you want"...with good subs and dubs for everybody.


My thoughs exactely, well said!
Jul 31, 2014 3:18 AM

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The only thing I can accept is that they get rid of the sites that ask money for their services, that is what should be illegal, not sharing itself when it has no actual impact anyway.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
Jul 31, 2014 3:20 AM

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if it's targeting china's sumisora and hdzone,all in one's would die without this torrent website....
Jul 31, 2014 4:03 AM

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In my opinion, while they will get rid of the net loss, i don't think they will get that amount of money to profit. Deleting the sites is just going to get rid of the loss but at the same time, their profit won't change.


What net loss are you talking about?
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Jul 31, 2014 4:12 AM
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People are overreacting to this news, just relax and let's see how this goes, These stuff has happen in the past and nothing really changes in the end, only just for a while. like days....


Got any Manga to recommend?


http://myanimelist.net/topmanga.php?type=manga

You can't pick a bad one from there :)
Jul 31, 2014 4:28 AM
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I will be really suprised if this does anything in the long run.
You cant fight piracy, you need to change you business model to make it unatractive.
So make it easier to get our anime legally instead of fighting priacy.

What we need is a sort of steam but then for anime and manga.
So basically a large database with subbed and dubbed anime, it does not matter if it is a official sub or a fansub.
And then allow us to watch what we want to watch for a small fee, lets say 15 dollar a month.
But if you do that you must also be able to watch it from anywhere, so no region lock.
Jul 31, 2014 4:39 AM

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Apart of the legal/illegal theme. What will happen with fansubes or RAW providers sites? And more, thanks to fansubes westerners have knowledge about manga and anime works. My example, in my origin country it's a 0'0000000001% - it's a sort of probability number - of good manga - not mention the ancient ones -, and 0 animes, only Doraemon, Dragon Ball, Pokemon, Digimon... not follow, or my digestion go kill me. Well, and NGoberment have a export solution, and they are going to get profit, HERE! i.e. Don't make me laugh!!

They say they have losses, but I ask Where? on EEUU? Europe? France have a good market, yet GB... Spain is a shit <- pardon - don't misinterpret it like hard language -, but its a truth... Not Know the rest, but not think the market covering more than a 5% of all Japanese works. This is the BIG truth. I think they adolece of a good market representation, or they think we are minority market. So then they don't have profit here, because they don't sell here, simply.

And thanks to fansubes I have the poor little jewels in my library, originals, with a poor traduction, I proved it, but here they are, like trophies in a not gained battle.

Good, this is my opinion, sorry for the bad word, but was necessary to express the real thing, harding it with a non appropiate word, sorry truly.

Greetings.
DcyendJul 31, 2014 6:03 AM
I'll tell you something, my Tenchi. You know, the carnival comes and goes... if you wait for a while, it'll always come back to you, Tenchi.
Jul 31, 2014 4:56 AM

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AO968 said:
a1l2d3r4e5d6 said:
In my opinion, while they will get rid of the net loss, i don't think they will get that amount of money to profit. Deleting the sites is just going to get rid of the loss but at the same time, their profit won't change.


What net loss are you talking about?

Who knows, people have no idea there are no actual real losses.




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Jul 31, 2014 5:18 AM
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I was a bit worried at first, but true, you really can't fight piracy especially as big as this.

Crunchyroll?? yeah for the lucky specific few regions only. BESIDES, I AM TOO POOR TO PAY ANYWAY Q^Q I live in Asia but alas even we, besides the East region most likely, don't get much anime-manga resources.
I promise to pay though once, I guess I get enough money. :D

I'm not exactly sure how they are losing money????????? But if they say so, then you better get your brains going because using that action probably won't do anything at all.

Oh and those illegal sites, they post anime and manga even if it didn't sell much in Japan (okay that didn't help), what I'm trying to say is they somehow support it in a way by translating it for the westerners to see.

Also I'm just going to say this because I feel that it's somehow connected, but JAPAN!!! shouldn't you be focusing more on how to get rid of your porn manga with lolis, rape and such, on your streets????!!!!!? I saw it in the news, they're debating what to do with that because they make huge money off of it. Illegal sites like those seem pretty harmless to the rest of the world compared to that.
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FloralHimegimi said:
I'm not exactly sure how they are losing money????????? But if they say so, then you better get your brains going because using that action probably won't do anything at all.

Le top kek

Also I'm just going to say this because I feel that it's somehow connected, but JAPAN!!! shouldn't you be focusing more on how to get rid of your porn manga with lolis, rape and such, on your streets????!!!!!? I saw it in the news, they're debating what to do with that because they make huge money off of it. Illegal sites like those seem pretty harmless to the rest of the world compared to that.

Le more top kek

All for the rights of the digital, paper and ink! They have "human" rights too!




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Jul 31, 2014 5:32 AM

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I have no idea what these japanese s*hit govt. is talking about..outside japan there is hardly any tv channel broardcasting animes..only chroll has legal right to broadcast animes(no download available+only a handful of animes and poor video player)...here in india,pakistan,bangladesh,nepal anime and manga are hardly available..if i want to buy the bd boxes i have to spent aroud 55,000 tk which is what my father get in a month as his salary....sites like kiss anime provides everything on free..they hardly make any profit..i wonder how in the hell world jp govt. is saying they are 560million yen loss every year.!whats their explanation??...it seems that jp govt. every anime fan outside japan should buy bd boxes and give them profit+plus expand this so called anime business outside japan..anime fans of other countries have to wait to wait 10-12 monthes to buy and watch a whole anime series on the oher hand japanese anime fans can watch it every week.!
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Why do people keep think that those sites will get blocked?
They just have to delete 500 manga titles and 80 anime titles but still people come here and ask "will those get blocked?"
Read, man.
READDDDD
Jul 31, 2014 6:09 AM

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I want to watch legally in Crunchyroll but the problem is I have no money and the limit of the premium membership.
The world shall know the truth soon.
Jul 31, 2014 6:11 AM
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SweetCoconut said:
I want to watch legally in Crunchyroll but the problem is I have no money and the limit of the premium membership.

Crunchyroll has not a big selection. I think that's why people hate on it lol
That's why... I'm a pirate until ALL the anime and manga get's legally avaiable
Jul 31, 2014 6:15 AM

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Huh Looks Like the List are Pretty OLD I mean MEGASHARE MEGAPORN MEGAVIDEO ? MININOVA BTJUNKIE LOL THAT'S PURE COMEDY? I think They still live in the stone age.

I don't know how about Anime Video they might die or not I don't know
Manga Maybe But Surely They won't

TORRENTS!!!!!! KICKASSTORRENT ? THE PIRATE BAY? ISOHUNT?
If Japan you manage to SHUT THIS DOWN I"LL WORSHIP YOU!!!!!! hahaha
EVEN THE MOST ADVANCE POWERFUL NATION CAN"T SHUT THEM LIKE FUCKING CRAPS and UUUUUUU!!! LOL hahaha
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Jul 31, 2014 6:17 AM

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Harutora_Rin said:
SweetCoconut said:
I want to watch legally in Crunchyroll but the problem is I have no money and the limit of the premium membership.

Crunchyroll has not a big selection. I think that's why people hate on it lol
That's why... I'm a pirate until ALL the anime and manga get's legally avaiable

That's you saying "I'll never be legal.".




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Jul 31, 2014 6:18 AM

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To late already move Japan?
Jul 31, 2014 6:26 AM
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Immahnoob said:
Harutora_Rin said:

Crunchyroll has not a big selection. I think that's why people hate on it lol
That's why... I'm a pirate until ALL the anime and manga get's legally avaiable

That's you saying "I'll never be legal.".

If Japan doesn't care about Europeans and never will yes, i'll never be legal
Jul 31, 2014 6:44 AM

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Jsmithmim said:
...i wonder how in the hell world jp govt. is saying they are 560million yen loss every year...
Correct to billions, it's an Economics theory facade; there are no losses, but less profit or no one... But they made money.

The limited CRoll is, less clients were, so...

And pay the licenses, those free sites who survived with their own expenses o low sponsors, I think they couldn't; nor NGoverment let them to do so...

It's a controversy terms like "piracy", when more the sites not gain a real profit... So ...

The truth is on @Jsmithmim and @FloralHimegimi and other words, I'm counting myself, our low budget trembles, any of us can afford some products, but I insist, it's a low handicap to think there is some profit when their offer it's or low quality visualization, and pay for it! Nor a low amount of manga or animes than not fill, in my case, a minimum of the real offer they move in their country. They compared numbers and think "Well if only on Tokyo our market move billions, what happend all over the World?" And I answer: "Well, send your offers in a just cost to the national, or locals TVs, and you have such amount of profit, only in publicity, for the audiences, than on your little country, allways with my respect."

Acording with a comment above, I agree that loli porn It's more harmful to their image, Why not their economic profit? <- That's a request for their insane form to study Economics fields. . .

The market grow with a proper offer, you don't give = you have no profit, but that not mean that they don't make money...

Take care!!
I'll tell you something, my Tenchi. You know, the carnival comes and goes... if you wait for a while, it'll always come back to you, Tenchi.
Jul 31, 2014 6:49 AM
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Dcyend said:
Jsmithmim said:
...i wonder how in the hell world jp govt. is saying they are 560million yen loss every year...
Correct to billions, it's an Economics theory facade; there are no losses, but less profit or no one... But they made money.

The limited CRoll is, less clients were, so...

And pay the licenses, those free sites who survived with their own expenses o low sponsors, I think they couldn't; nor NGoverment let them to do so...

It's a controversy terms like "piracy", when more the sites not gain a real profit... So ...

The truth is on @Jsmithmim and @FloralHimegimi and other words, I'm counting myself, our low budget trembles, any of us can afford some products, but I insist, it's a low handicap to think there is some profit when their offer it's or low quality visualization, and pay for it! Nor a low amount of manga or animes than not fill, in my case, a minimum of the real offer they move in their country. They compared numbers and think "Well if only on Tokyo our market move billions, what happend all over the World?" And I answer: "Well, send your offers in a just cost to the national, or locals TVs, and you have such amount of profit, only in publicity, for the audiences, than on your little country, allways with my respect."

Acording with a comment above, I agree that loli porn It's more harmful to their image, Why not their economic profit? <- That's a request for their insane form to study Economics fields. . .

The market grow with a proper offer, you don't give = you have no profit, but that not mean that they don't make money...

Take care!!


What do you mean.
I love loli porn

Just kidding but, CNN went and said that Love Hina is childporn along with some other manga that has nothing to do with sex.

And America still get's more than Europe
Jul 31, 2014 6:59 AM

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SweetCoconut said:
I want to watch legally in Crunchyroll but the problem is I have no money and the limit of the premium membership.


if you cant afford 6 bucks a month you should be working and not watching cartoons.

Saying you are poor doesnt justify stealing.

I mean steal if you want to but dont try and bullshit it out like it isnt stealing.
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SolvyTwerk4Jesus said:
SweetCoconut said:
I want to watch legally in Crunchyroll but the problem is I have no money and the limit of the premium membership.


if you cant afford 6 bucks a month you should be working and not watching cartoons.

*facepalm* it's not worth to pay €5 for a selection that has 75% less than US
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Harutora_Rin said:
SolvyTwerk4Jesus said:


if you cant afford 6 bucks a month you should be working and not watching cartoons.

*facepalm* it's not worth to pay €5 for a selection that has 75% less than US


Yes it is.

The fact that stealing shit is easier than paying for it doesnt justify stealing it.

The only reason you do it so easily is because the police can't find you.

Stealing anime is no different than stealing candy at wal mart. You dont need candy to live, you are just too greedy to work for it.

I'd like to point out that I torrent anime. I just admit to myself that im doing it. I dont try and play it off like I'm fucking Robin Hood.
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SolvyTwerk4Jesus said:
Harutora_Rin said:

*facepalm* it's not worth to pay €5 for a selection that has 75% less than US


Yes it is.

The fact that stealing shit is easier than paying for it doesnt justify stealing it.

The only reason you do it so easily is because the police can't find you.

Stealing anime is no different than stealing candy at wal mart. You dont need candy to live, you are just too greedy to work for it.

I'd like to point out that I torrent anime. I just admit to myself that im doing it. I dont try and play it off like I'm fucking Robin Hood.

I torrent the anime that i can't find on CR, which is a lot.
Say hello to my 2TB unwatched anime
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Harutora_Rin said:
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Yes it is.

The fact that stealing shit is easier than paying for it doesnt justify stealing it.

The only reason you do it so easily is because the police can't find you.

Stealing anime is no different than stealing candy at wal mart. You dont need candy to live, you are just too greedy to work for it.

I'd like to point out that I torrent anime. I just admit to myself that im doing it. I dont try and play it off like I'm fucking Robin Hood.

I torrent the anime that i can't find on CR, which is a lot.
Say hello to my 2TB unwatched anime


I do the same thing.

The difference is I say "I'm doing something illegal, and that makes me a thief."

You come on MAL and try to make excuses for yourself like a spoiled kid.

Id also like to point out that the last 2-3 seasons Crunchyroll has had literally everything but Funimation licensed anime.

Ever since they got AoT they have all the new shit.

People bashing Crunchyroll are either Europeans (its a US website) or people who are too stupid to realize you can legally steam Funimation anime on their website for free.
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NHK? Th-this is a conspiracy!
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Jul 31, 2014 7:07 AM

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Good luck with that Japan
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But if they going to do it for really

I'm going to die i cant live with out anime
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Good luck with that Japan
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But if they going to do it for really

I'm going to die i cant live with out anime


80 ANIME SERIES.

80

OUT OF LIKE 5000
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SolvyTwerk4Jesus said:
Harutora_Rin said:

I torrent the anime that i can't find on CR, which is a lot.
Say hello to my 2TB unwatched anime


I do the same thing.

The difference is I say "I'm doing something illegal, and that makes me a thief."

You come on MAL and try to make excuses for yourself like a spoiled kid.

I am a thief. I'm only pissed on the fact that Japan puts no effort to bring any GOOD legal means for me to watch anime in Europe.
That new site they gave us mostly works in US (of course)
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SolvyTwerk4Jesus said:
"I'm doing something illegal, and that makes me a thief."

Actually, stealing would make you a thief, that's the definition, not doing something illegal.

Considering that by definition you are not stealing but copying, you could call it plagiarism, but you're not publishing the work of another and it's not a written work either (most of the times).

So, you can call it copying, but that's pretty much it.
Calling yourself a thief is objectively wrong.

Anyway, what was I saying? Oh yeah, most torrent sites will not comply to the request or them suing... So nobody should even bother thinking that the loss of 80 Anime and 500 Manga titles on certain sites will do anything worthwhile.




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Harutora_Rin said:
SolvyTwerk4Jesus said:


I do the same thing.

The difference is I say "I'm doing something illegal, and that makes me a thief."

You come on MAL and try to make excuses for yourself like a spoiled kid.

I am a thief. I'm only pissed on the fact that Japan puts no effort to bring any GOOD legal means for me to watch anime in Europe.
That new site they gave us mostly works in US (of course)


Well i comepletely agree with this.

But "Japan" doesnt own anime.

The individual producers do.

Its the same reason why "America" cant make cable providers stop sucking. Thats how capitalism works.
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SolvyTwerk4Jesus said:
Harutora_Rin said:

I am a thief. I'm only pissed on the fact that Japan puts no effort to bring any GOOD legal means for me to watch anime in Europe.
That new site they gave us mostly works in US (of course)


Well i comepletely agree with this.

But "Japan" doesnt own anime.

The individual producers do.

Its the same reason why "America" cant make cable providers stop sucking. Thats how capitalism works.


True, very true
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True, very true[/quote]

Did we just become best friends?
Jul 31, 2014 7:18 AM
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Tomodachi for life
Jul 31, 2014 7:32 AM

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I wonder why they even try...
Jul 31, 2014 7:54 AM

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SIX MINUTES UNTIL THE END OF THE WORLD BEGINS.

EDIT: THE END OF THE WORLD HAS BEGUN.
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Tyestor said:
SIX MINUTES UNTIL THE END OF THE WORLD BEGINS.

EDIT: THE END OF THE WORLD HAS BEGUN.

But, it's not my birthday yet.
It's after twelve in Japan?
Those fuckers should still be asleep
Jul 31, 2014 8:11 AM

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They are idiots.
They are few, pirates are a shit ton of.
For every 10 links they remove, 20 more comes back up xD
The animes and mangas they'll remove will be back up in a few days.

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It's 12:18 in Japan and have seen 1 anime already.


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Des said:
They are idiots.
They are few, pirates are a shit ton of.
For every 10 links they remove, 20 more comes back up xD
The animes and mangas they'll remove will be back up in a few days.

It's not like they'll remove it. They just going to send a C&D but backed up by the Japanese GOVT.
I wouls guess that the pussies sites remove it and the badass ones say "fuck you"
Jul 31, 2014 8:23 AM
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Hoppy said:
It's 12:18 in Japan and have seen 1 anime already.

Which one?
Jul 31, 2014 8:26 AM
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Has Japan killed international anime yet? Is it time to panic already? I made a bunch of tinfoil hats for later, just in case.
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http://myanimelist.net/anime/23325/Shirogane_no_Ishi:_Argevollen

Your currently airing stuff is safe, it's all still around.


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"The attempt to provide the content cheaply is a good idea and, if successful, great. It is a shame that making stuff available appears to be the last desperate action when, obviously, it should have been the first. Attempting to dictate to foreign companies (especially fan-support sites) it's on a hiding to nothing. The criminalisation of sharing is much more worrying. The other problem with it is that anime and manga have a large fan base in Japan that are not just consumers, but interact and create as well. Criminalising this, if it succeeds will simply destroy the essence of the art form."

EDIT: Just saw the site...

I stand corrected. Nothing's changing...
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You stream? Eww. But no, they're safe.


Nice :D


Kissanime and Animeplus is on their list.

Read the PowerPoint
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MagicalMahou said:
"The attempt to provide the content cheaply is a good idea and, if successful, great. It is a shame that making stuff available appears to be the last desperate action when, obviously, it should have been the first. Attempting to dictate to foreign companies (especially fan-support sites) it's on a hiding to nothing. The criminalisation of sharing is much more worrying. The other problem with it is that anime and manga have a large fan base in Japan that are not just consumers, but interact and create as well. Criminalising this, if it succeeds will simply destroy the essence of the art form."

EDIT: Just saw the site...

I stand corrected. Nothing's changing...

That site.. It's the damn apocalypse itself
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goshujin_sama241 said:
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Nice :D


Kissanime and Animeplus is on their list.

Read the PowerPoint

Still won't get taken down. They simply have to delete 500 manga and 80 anime titles
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Should I panic, since their doing this. Or pity them for even trying.... *confused*
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Makeruno said:
Should I panic, since their doing this. Or pity them for even trying.... *confused*

If you are a die hard manga fan, panic.
If you are a die hard anime fan, it's not that bad
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Harutora_Rin said:
Makeruno said:
Should I panic, since their doing this. Or pity them for even trying.... *confused*

If you are a die hard manga fan, panic.
If you are a die hard anime fan, it's not that bad


I think I'm balanced... so...
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