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May 15, 2014 6:03 PM
#1
| It seems that whenever someone asks "what's the worst series you've ever watched?" then we always seem to get the popular anime like Naruto Shippuden, Bleach, One Piece, Kill la Kill, SNK, SAO, etc. with no virtually no reason as to WHY those series are bad in their point-of-view. Of course, there's a question that begs to be asked: what does it really take for an anime to be considered to worst of the worst? Well for me, it's a bit complicated. When I think of the worst shows I've ever watched (this transcends anime, by the way), there's usually two categories that I split them up into: the outright atrocious and the ones I absolutely despise, regardless of how good or bad it actually is. For something to be in the outright atrocious category, it's got to have a combination of at least two or more of the following: - Bad writing - Bad characters - Bad art and animation - Bad sound For example, an anime series that would fall under my "outright atrocious" category is School Days. It's a combination of bad writing and bad characters. On the surface it just seems like an average, everyday slice-of-life romance anime. That's not exactly doing it any favours, since slice-of-life and romance are two genres that have been done to the afterlife and back in the anime industry and for the most part, it doesn't deviate from the standard formula and where it does deviate only makes the programme worse as a whole. Where does it deviate from the formula? The characters. It seems like every character in School Days is either a slut, a jackass, a yandere, or just completely useless. Makoto and Sekai are the most unlikeable characters of any anime I've ever seen. They remind me of Tom and Daria in the final episode of Season 4 where they both make out in his car while he's still dating Jane. But instead of making out in the car, they just downright start fucking behind Kotonoha's back. Sooner or later, he devolves into a hormone-crazy sex fiend and what's worse is that it seems like every single girl in this series are completely devoid of any intelligence, save for enough to consent to sex. Even in the real world, there would still be girls in the class with enough morals to refuse fucking a gigolo like Makoto. I mean, the ending was gratifying as all hell but even that kind of catharsis isn't reason enough to watch School Days, not even for masturbation material. If you really want something for masturbation material, just watch High School of the Dead, go on Pornhub and watch some hentai, read some manga on Fakku, or something similar. As for the second category, well it takes a bit more for me to absolutely despise a series. As bad as School Days is, I don't despise it. I mean, I think it's a series that the anime industry as a whole would be better off without, but it's not something that will be my top 5 "worst series" list (it's definitely in the top 10 though). For me to absolutely despise the series, it has to have at least two of the following: - Completely subvert most (if not all) of the expectations that I had set for it. - Contain an absurd amount of wasted potential. - Offend me on a very deep and personal level One series in particular that comes to mind whenever I think of an anime that I absolutely despise is Sword Art Online. When I first started watching it, I was immediately enamoured with it. The concept was unlike anything I've ever heard of before, the visuals and the soundtrack were great, and it had a small twist of Code Lyoko and Zatch Bell! in it (two shows that I grew up watching and still enjoy to this day). As the series progressed from the first episode, I started getting less and less enamoured with it (thanks to Kirito being blander than plain tofu). but I still liked it until it degenerated into a generic action/romance/harem series where Kirito is completely and totally overpowered and seemingly EVERY SINGLE FEMALE CHARACTER INTRODUCED HAS A THING FOR HIM. I could've forgiven that, but then they changed Asuna from being this awesome female lead who kicked so much ass in her first appearance (like Major Kusanagi in Stand Alone Complex) to the useless damsel-in-distress/shitty love interest whose only purpose is to be fodder for doujinshi on Fakku. I don't really care if a male lead has no character whatsoever, because a lot of shows I enjoy seem to feature a bland leading male (i.e. Superman, Goku in DBZ, Batou in Stand Alone Complex). But when it comes down to female leads, I have a much higher set of standards. I HATE Lois Lane for a reason: she's an annoyingly bland love interest whose only purpose is to be rescued by Superman. I'm also not one to be taken in by fan service, since that doesn't contribute anything worthwhile to that character. Major Kusanagi in Stand Alone Complex basically set my standards for what a female lead character should be, and Asuna basically reminded me of Major Kusanagi on so many levels when I first saw her. Then as the series progressed, she degenerated slowly to the point where seeing her reminds me of those situations where people used to have women in their lives that they once greatly admired and then one day, they see them on the street trying to proposition them for sex so they can finance their drug habits. There's a lot more examples of all the subverted expectations and wasted potential that SAO had, but it was just those two things that effectively took this series and plunged it into the bottom of the barrel as one of the worst of the worst for me. It's one of those series that I will adamantly refuse to watch and if a friend of mine wants to watch SAO, I'll do everything in my power to prevent him from wasting time watching it. It may not be that bad on a critical standpoint, but in my view it's definitely in the top 5 of the worst series I've ever had the misfortune of watching, even with that strong start it had in the beginning. So MAL community, I reiterate: what does it take for an anime to be the worst among everything you've ever watched? |
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May 15, 2014 6:09 PM
#2
| It's the worst show that I've ever seen if there are no other anime that I dislike more than it. It doesn't really require any further contemplation to me at least. Currently it's Mars of Destruction, and if I never had exposed my eyes to that shit it would've been Mirai Nikki. |
May 15, 2014 6:12 PM
#3
| If I dropped the show then it practically spoke "worst series ever" out to me. ( And I totally agree with u about sword art online btw) |
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May 15, 2014 6:15 PM
#4
Forgetfulness said: By the way, I hope you know that School Days is a deconstruction of harem anime and it's supposed to be like that. The characters aren't unlikable because of poor writing, but rather because that was the whole fucking point None of this is true. |
May 15, 2014 6:16 PM
#5
| It has to somehow surpass Violence Jack. Not likely going to happen. |
May 15, 2014 6:16 PM
#6
Forgetfulness said: By the way, I hope you know that School Days is a deconstruction of harem anime and it's supposed to be like that. The characters aren't unlikable because of poor writing, but rather because that was the whole fucking point Wasn't it a visual novel/manga adaptation? If I recall correctly, the manga and the visual novels are much more tame than the actual anime itself. |
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May 15, 2014 6:19 PM
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Forgetfulness said: By the way, I hope you know that School Days is a deconstruction of harem anime and it's supposed to be like that. The characters aren't unlikable because of poor writing, but rather because that was the whole fucking point making characters unlikable does not equal to being a deconstruction. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well for one, even behind enemy lines, Asuna pretty much stopped that dude's plan to use the subconscious minds of people to develop Mind control technology And secondly, for an anime to be the worst I've ever watched, i would have to experience no pleasure from it. my feeling for it would go from "meh" to "they are being stupid". |
May 15, 2014 6:20 PM
#8
phs_togusa said: Forgetfulness said: By the way, I hope you know that School Days is a deconstruction of harem anime and it's supposed to be like that. The characters aren't unlikable because of poor writing, but rather because that was the whole fucking point Wasn't it a visual novel/manga adaptation? If I recall correctly, the manga and the visual novels are much more tame than the actual anime itself. No, i think that the anime is just one of the endings taken straight out of the VN. the visual novel has alot of bad endings too. |
May 15, 2014 6:20 PM
#9
| Bad writing, characters, and all that other stuff can be part of a bad anime, but for something to be the worst, it has to go beyond all that. The key is to be insulting to watch. I think the worst kind would be the ones where the anime is trying to be smart or address serious, real life issues and completely drop the ball. It makes the show a joke and it makes everyone involved seem like incompetent idiots trying to cash in on controversy. In essence, it transcends being a bad anime and becomes animated trash. Fortunately, I have yet to see anything on this level yet. Just as the "perfect" anime is difficult to achieve, the "perfectly bad" anime has to be truly special to out perform all the other bad anime out there. |
May 15, 2014 6:24 PM
#10
Forgetfulness said: tsudecimo said: Do you think they were trying to write a normal harem and just happened to fuck up somewhere along the way?Forgetfulness said: None of this is true.By the way, I hope you know that School Days is a deconstruction of harem anime and it's supposed to be like that. The characters aren't unlikable because of poor writing, but rather because that was the whole fucking point No they just adapted all the routes at the same time with the bad ending. To make my point clearer, take Yotsuga no sora or whoever you spell that, all the routes were adapted but after each route the story would reset like it's supposed to happen, since Eroges work like that. This was hardly an attempt for a realistic harem, because why would any of these stupid girls sleep with Makoto if it's supposed to be realistic? if we stretch it Kotonha and Serki only made sense like any other cliche love triangle out there. The show was just like any other stupid American highschool drama, except with an extreme dramatic ending and only 2 male characters instead of more. The show just happens to show the extreme consequences of cheating. A deconstruction was not the intention. I'm forgetting some other reasons but that's the jist of it. |
May 15, 2014 6:24 PM
#11
Forgetfulness said: AzuStar said: What about having the MC have sex with every single girl he meets whereas pretty much every other harem is about some nobody suddenly befriending 3+ girls and not doing anything with any of them throughout the entire freaking story?Forgetfulness said: By the way, I hope you know that School Days is a deconstruction of harem anime and it's supposed to be like that. The characters aren't unlikable because of poor writing, but rather because that was the whole fucking point making characters unlikable does not equal to being a deconstruction. what about an MC having sex with every single girl he meets w/o having to do anything? cause that's pretty much what happens w/ makoto in school days. |
May 15, 2014 6:25 PM
#12
Forgetfulness said: AzuStar said: What about having the MC have sex with every single girl he meets whereas pretty much every other harem is about some nobody suddenly befriending friends with 3+ girls and not doing anything with any of them throughout the entire freaking story?Forgetfulness said: By the way, I hope you know that School Days is a deconstruction of harem anime and it's supposed to be like that. The characters aren't unlikable because of poor writing, but rather because that was the whole fucking point making characters unlikable does not equal to being a deconstruction. Give it up, buddy. OreGairu is a deconstruction of slice-of-life/romantic comedy. Madoka Magica is a deconstruction of magical girl anime. Neon Genesis Evangelion is a deconstruction of mecha anime. The one thing they all have in common is that they're all great anime with likeable characters (if you can excuse the trainwreck that was Shinji). I'm no expert on the subject, but I'm not sure a deconstruction would be possible if you had the most unlikeable characters ever constructed. |
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May 15, 2014 6:27 PM
#13
| For me, it's when the anime clearly isn't more than an advertisement and doesn't do anything but give you the bare minimum to understand it to try to get you to purchase the source material. Like mother fucking pupa. phs_togusa said: Give it up, buddy. OreGairu is a deconstruction of slice-of-life/romantic comedy. Madoka Magica is a deconstruction of magical girl anime. Neon Genesis Evangelion is a deconstruction of mecha anime. The one thing they all have in common is that they're all great anime with likeable characters (if you can excuse the trainwreck that was Shinji). I'm no expert on the subject, but I'm not sure a deconstruction would be possible if you had the most unlikeable characters ever constructed. Lol, ignoring shinji. School days is fucking amazing and the characters are more likable and believable than any character in NGE. Having unlikeable characters disqualifies something as a deconstruction? I've heard a lot of arguments about why school days isn't a deconstruction, but this is quite possibly one of the worst. |
MushmallowMay 15, 2014 6:32 PM
May 15, 2014 6:27 PM
#14
| None of the anime mentioned in this thread so far except what I brought up can really be considered "worst anime ever." Mod Edit: Removed baiting. |
NiyawaMay 15, 2014 7:36 PM
May 15, 2014 6:27 PM
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phs_togusa said: Forgetfulness said: AzuStar said: What about having the MC have sex with every single girl he meets whereas pretty much every other harem is about some nobody suddenly befriending friends with 3+ girls and not doing anything with any of them throughout the entire freaking story?Forgetfulness said: By the way, I hope you know that School Days is a deconstruction of harem anime and it's supposed to be like that. The characters aren't unlikable because of poor writing, but rather because that was the whole fucking point making characters unlikable does not equal to being a deconstruction. Give it up, buddy. OreGairu is a deconstruction of slice-of-life/romantic comedy. Madoka Magica is a deconstruction of magical girl anime. Neon Genesis Evangelion is a deconstruction of mecha anime. The one thing they all have in common is that they're all great anime with likeable characters (if you can excuse the trainwreck that was Shinji). I'm no expert on the subject, but I'm not sure a deconstruction would be possible if you had the most unlikeable characters ever constructed. i should just point out that a deconstruction is an effort to put a usual unrealistic or clique trope in a more realistic light. By this definition i don't think madoka is a deconstruction. its still good though. |
May 15, 2014 6:28 PM
#16
| It would have to get me o express significant outward frustration. |
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May 15, 2014 6:30 PM
#17
AzuStar said: Why? Your definition of a deconstruction fits MAdoka perfectly.phs_togusa said: Forgetfulness said: AzuStar said: What about having the MC have sex with every single girl he meets whereas pretty much every other harem is about some nobody suddenly befriending friends with 3+ girls and not doing anything with any of them throughout the entire freaking story?Forgetfulness said: By the way, I hope you know that School Days is a deconstruction of harem anime and it's supposed to be like that. The characters aren't unlikable because of poor writing, but rather because that was the whole fucking point making characters unlikable does not equal to being a deconstruction. Give it up, buddy. OreGairu is a deconstruction of slice-of-life/romantic comedy. Madoka Magica is a deconstruction of magical girl anime. Neon Genesis Evangelion is a deconstruction of mecha anime. The one thing they all have in common is that they're all great anime with likeable characters (if you can excuse the trainwreck that was Shinji). I'm no expert on the subject, but I'm not sure a deconstruction would be possible if you had the most unlikeable characters ever constructed. i should just point out that a deconstruction is an effort to put a usual unrealistic or clique trope in a more realistic light. By this definition i don't think madoka is a deconstruction. its still good though. |
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May 15, 2014 6:30 PM
#18
| Can people stop throwing around the word deconstruction. @Forgetfullness Please trim your quote tower. I will send Mellow for you o.o |
May 15, 2014 6:32 PM
#20
Forgetfulness said: AzuStar said: Doesn't happen in every other harem anime, I can tell you that muchForgetfulness said: what about an MC having sex with every single girl he meets w/o having to do anything? cause that's pretty much what happens w/ makoto in school days.AzuStar said: What about having the MC have sex with every single girl he meets whereas pretty much every other harem is about some nobody suddenly befriending 3+ girls and not doing anything with any of them throughout the entire freaking story?Forgetfulness said: By the way, I hope you know that School Days is a deconstruction of harem anime and it's supposed to be like that. The characters aren't unlikable because of poor writing, but rather because that was the whole fucking point making characters unlikable does not equal to being a deconstruction. there are alot of harems that have more than one thing unique to them. but that doesn't mean they are deconstructions too. StardustNyako said: Why? Your definition of a deconstruction fits MAdoka perfectly. not really... i mean, what's realistic about Madoka in comparison to other Magical girl shows? it just has a darker twist. Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
NiyawaMay 15, 2014 7:42 PM
May 15, 2014 6:38 PM
#21
Forgetfulness said: AzuStar said: Well the thing is that I'm pretty sure not doing anything with multiple girls a predominant trait in harem anime, so School Days stands out. And I've already said that I'm pretty sure I've used the word wrong, so my badthere are alot of harems that have more than one thing unique to them. but that doesn't mean they are deconstructions too. well, in actuality, in every harem, the boys do alot with the girls, it just usually isn't sex (unless hentai), so in that regard, School days is different... until white album i think. |
May 15, 2014 6:38 PM
#22
| You again. -_- I'm pretty sure you're the same person that was on the Crunchy roll forum talking bullshit about popular series. Including my favourite SNK. I see you still have that habit of writing long ass paragraph for people to read. On to the topic. If the story, characters art and animation, sound are terrible then it's a terrible series. Only fan service and some romance could save it from being my worst anime ever. XD |
May 15, 2014 6:41 PM
#23
Forgetfulness said: AzuStar said: Well the thing is that I'm pretty sure not doing anything with more than one girl is part of the premise in harem anime, so School Days particularly stands out. And I've already said that I'm pretty sure I've used the word wrong, so my badthere are alot of harems that have more than one thing unique to them. but that doesn't mean they are deconstructions too. That's not really part of the premise of harem. Many Seinen harem trash manga have the MC sleeping around. There is sex because School days is an adaption of an eroge, same as Yotsuga no sora. |
May 15, 2014 6:43 PM
#24
tsudecimo said: Forgetfulness said: AzuStar said: Well the thing is that I'm pretty sure not doing anything with more than one girl is part of the premise in harem anime, so School Days particularly stands out. And I've already said that I'm pretty sure I've used the word wrong, so my badthere are alot of harems that have more than one thing unique to them. but that doesn't mean they are deconstructions too. That's not really part of the premise of harem. Many Seinen harem trash manga have the MC sleeping around. There is sex because School days is an adaption of an eroge, same as Yotsuga no sora. oh... i did not know that... ive only watch a few harems though so i guess my range is small. |
May 15, 2014 6:45 PM
#25
Forgetfulness said: I see. Can we at least agree that the characters were intentionally written to be unlikable? :v that is a definite yes. you cannot tell me Ms.Greenhair was suppose to be liked. |
May 15, 2014 6:45 PM
#26
Forgetfulness said: I see. Can we at least agree that the characters were intentionally written to be unlikable? :v Some of them, yes. |
May 15, 2014 6:47 PM
#27
AzuStar said: Forgetfulness said: I see. Can we at least agree that the characters were intentionally written to be unlikable? :v that is a definite yes. you cannot tell me Ms.Greenhair was suppose to be liked. But..she was one of my favorite characters, both in the game and in the anime. Selfless, loyal, and overall a great friend. What's not to like? |
May 15, 2014 6:56 PM
#28
Cupquake said: AzuStar said: Forgetfulness said: I see. Can we at least agree that the characters were intentionally written to be unlikable? :v that is a definite yes. you cannot tell me Ms.Greenhair was suppose to be liked. But..she was one of my favorite characters, both in the game and in the anime. Selfless, loyal, and overall a great friend. What's not to like? e.e.... but... i remember... you were telling me how she brung down your score for school days by like 1 point.... okay well she firstly tries to get Sekai together with an already taken man. (even after she found out Sekai was backstabbing Kotonoha) and then tried to keep Sekai together w. Makoto after he cheated on Sekai. after that she was trying to entrust Sekai in the hands of Makoto (the dude who has cheated twice, once on her) even though Ms.Greenhair has two other friends she could trust. She pretty much tried to keep Sekai w/ a man who already cheated on her AND trusted Makoto to keep Sekai safe. then Ms.GreenHair slept w/ the dude (Loyal friend don't sleep w/ their friend's boyfriends) but that barely factored in to my opinion of Ms.greenhair by that time. |
May 15, 2014 6:57 PM
#29
AzuStar said: StardustNyako said: Why? Your definition of a deconstruction fits MAdoka perfectly. not really... i mean, what's realistic about Madoka in comparison to other Magical girl shows? it just has a darker twist. To me, it looked like they were trying to "be real" about being a magical girl, they were trying to say: Hey, fighting witches aint exactly as easy as singing a song. However, there is no right or wrong here, so you can be right too. |
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May 15, 2014 7:00 PM
#30
StardustNyako said: AzuStar said: StardustNyako said: Why? Your definition of a deconstruction fits MAdoka perfectly. not really... i mean, what's realistic about Madoka in comparison to other Magical girl shows? it just has a darker twist. To me, it looked like they were trying to "be real" about being a magical girl, they were trying to say: Hey, fighting witches aint exactly as easy as singing a song. However, there is no right or wrong here, so you can be right too. ehh.. even though one girl died to Witches (i think the death was flawed personally) Witches weren't really a threat in the show. they really stopped looking like the main evil/antagonists of the show after episode 3. |
May 15, 2014 7:05 PM
#31
AzuStar said: Cupquake said: AzuStar said: Forgetfulness said: I see. Can we at least agree that the characters were intentionally written to be unlikable? :v that is a definite yes. you cannot tell me Ms.Greenhair was suppose to be liked. But..she was one of my favorite characters, both in the game and in the anime. Selfless, loyal, and overall a great friend. What's not to like? e.e.... but... i remember... you were telling me how she brung down your score for school days by like 1 point.... okay well she firstly tries to get Sekai together with an already taken man. (even after she found out Sekai was backstabbing Kotonoha) and then tried to keep Sekai together w. Makoto after he cheated on Sekai. after that she was trying to entrust Sekai in the hands of Makoto (the dude who has cheated twice, once on her) even though Ms.Greenhair has two other friends she could trust. She pretty much tried to keep Sekai w/ a man who already cheated on her AND trusted Makoto to keep Sekai safe. then Ms.GreenHair slept w/ the dude (Loyal friend don't sleep w/ their friend's boyfriends) but that barely factored in to my opinion of Ms.greenhair by that time. My score wasn't brought down because I didn't like her, but because that scene was very clumsily done. I've done the route that scene was supposedly adapting, and the anime didn't do a very good job. you need to remember that Setsuna didn't actually know what makoto and kotonoha were going out, no one did because the two didn't really make it public. Setsuna trusted makoto for good reason. I mean, the scene where he helped her get over her fears showed makoto as a genuinely nice guy. The sleeping with makoto thing was partly fueled by her desire for him to remain loyal to sekai, but she only agreed because she was infatuated with makoto herself. However, she never pursues him because she is a good friend |
May 15, 2014 7:11 PM
#32
| It doesn't take much actually, as I watch series that are generally highly rated or interest me in some way. I'm not willing to put myself through something that everyone hates or gets bad word of mouth. That being said, among the worst I've watched are Clannad, FLCL, Anohana and Air. For movies it would be Disappearance of Haruhi Suzmiya. Sword Art Online gets a lot of hate, but was still for the most part more interesting than those. |
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May 15, 2014 7:15 PM
#33
JD2411 said: But thats Impossible...isn't it?I have to hate everything about it |
May 15, 2014 7:25 PM
#34
| A) it's not entertaining B) artistically, it's horribly executed |
May 15, 2014 7:27 PM
#35
| 1. The Story was badly written and I didn't like it 2. The characters were 1 dimensional and unlikable 3. The series had shoddy technical specs (animation, pacing, music, etc.) 4. The series failed to get me to care about anything that happened or anybody 5. The ending did not satisfy me, or it didn't even end at all and left a bunch of mysteries I wanted solved left hanging gets it a 2 if it's an anime. 1 is a special place in the lowest depths rating hell reserved for awful mind-scarring, rage-inducing hentai. |
May 15, 2014 7:29 PM
#37
| I don't know. Whatever the fuck Apocalypse Zero did, I guess. I'd have to re-watch it say what exactly it did wrong. But, screw that. |
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May 15, 2014 7:47 PM
#38
| Rape, blood, killing, all that jazz. As well as bad characters, shit music, horrible ending... In other words, Mirai Nikki. |
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May 15, 2014 7:50 PM
#39
| Lol at school days being the worst anime ever. I didn't know that having sex with a lot of girls = worst person ever. They are probably just jealous of makoko. And School Days is not a deconstruction, just a good ass anime that goes against the grain. On topic. It has to be something with no redeeming qualities like Anohana or Sword Art Online, or Infinite Stratos. It just has to be shit in almost every way. |
May 15, 2014 7:59 PM
#41
| As a fan of Mirai Nikki this saddens me. Although I can't deny that it's shitty. I'd say 'worst anime ever' is a stretch. It still has pretty good entertainment value, which is more than I can say about some other shows *cough* diabolik lovers *cough* |
May 15, 2014 8:00 PM
#42
| Remember the thread is not about which anime has the highest rating or not, so let's not go off-topic. |
May 15, 2014 8:09 PM
#43
Cupquake said: AzuStar said: Cupquake said: AzuStar said: Forgetfulness said: I see. Can we at least agree that the characters were intentionally written to be unlikable? :v that is a definite yes. you cannot tell me Ms.Greenhair was suppose to be liked. But..she was one of my favorite characters, both in the game and in the anime. Selfless, loyal, and overall a great friend. What's not to like? e.e.... but... i remember... you were telling me how she brung down your score for school days by like 1 point.... okay well she firstly tries to get Sekai together with an already taken man. (even after she found out Sekai was backstabbing Kotonoha) and then tried to keep Sekai together w. Makoto after he cheated on Sekai. after that she was trying to entrust Sekai in the hands of Makoto (the dude who has cheated twice, once on her) even though Ms.Greenhair has two other friends she could trust. She pretty much tried to keep Sekai w/ a man who already cheated on her AND trusted Makoto to keep Sekai safe. then Ms.GreenHair slept w/ the dude (Loyal friend don't sleep w/ their friend's boyfriends) but that barely factored in to my opinion of Ms.greenhair by that time. My score wasn't brought down because I didn't like her, but because that scene was very clumsily done. I've done the route that scene was supposedly adapting, and the anime didn't do a very good job. you need to remember that Setsuna didn't actually know what makoto and kotonoha were going out, no one did because the two didn't really make it public. Setsuna trusted makoto for good reason. I mean, the scene where he helped her get over her fears showed makoto as a genuinely nice guy. The sleeping with makoto thing was partly fueled by her desire for him to remain loyal to sekai, but she only agreed because she was infatuated with makoto herself. However, she never pursues him because she is a good friend I think you need to remember that in thisMs.Greenhair finds out that Makoto is cheating on Kotonohah w/ sekai/Sekai is backstabbing Kotonoha, but of course as the protective friend of Sekai, she thinks she should try and see what Makoto's feeling are instead of doing the logical thing and keeping the as far apart away as possible. Here we are seeing that she really is giving Makoto full range over the situation by leting him decide which to date. then of course here we see her entrusting Sekai to him for safety even after he saw how indecisive he was. in the same episode, we catch a glimpse of Ms.Greenhair's and Sekai's Friends that would probably be more suited to protect Sekai from danger. Here we see the kiss she stole from the guy she wanted her friend to have, and then Here we see why she did that.(cause she felt she could get away with it) then afterthis(where she could tell he was lying about breaking up w/ Kotonoha, in which case even though he is still cheating, Ms.GreenHair still wanted him to be w/ Sekai) then she pulls this shiz again w/ the guy she DOESN'T want sleeping around. Now hereWe see she has, at least, just found out that Makoto is sleeping around with other women, meaning he is cheating on Ms.Greenhair's best friend. Now, i'm assuming that as the "protective" friend, the best course of action was obviously Thisthis[/url] whole scene right? i personally don't think that as a friend, Ms.Greenhair should have continued to beg Makoto to stay loyal w/ Sekai and then give her body as incentive. especially since throughout this whole show, she has repeated seen that Makoto is indecisive and untrustworthy. in the end she became the second (or third?) girl Makoto cheated on Sekai w/ only because she thought as long as no one knew and your intentions were "pure", its relatively okay. (im talking about This scene. the only forseeable reason that she could have to trusting Makoto would be because he did something nice to her back in middle school 1) that was ONE encounter in Middle school. was that somehow the first time a guy has been nice to her? 2) there are plenty of times in the show where see sees makoto being untrustworthy (Here, and here just to name a few) or indecisive (here is one because i don;t wanna keep looking through these episodes) Now if you think that the explanation for her actions is that common sense doesn't exist in this world then watch this scene to understand why i think Ms.GreenHair is just the worst character in the show. I used alot of time to gather all these You know. |
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