Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei Episode 1 Discussion

SodaPop65 said:


I'd agree with this

If I see one more person claim its an incest/harem without having read the LNs, I'm going to shoot up A COMPLETELY EMPTY BUILDING (Keeping it PG13, yo)

Zetrin said:


That's the thing, I'm not going to read all 40 of these ridiculous pages about pointless arguing over one damn episode. All you guys have to do is wait it out until the anime proves it's not an incest/harem. Seriously, from that first episode, the incest vibe was way too high (there's no denying that), but I'd say the harem accusation is a little unnecessary. Only one episode aired. IMO the way you guys should view it, if someone else doesn't want to/refuses to watch the show after you support your claim as to why they should, it's THEIR loss and THEIR choice and THEIR opinion.
Fuck, I realized I joined in on this madness, someone help me

RexZShadow said:
Thats what you consider junk and what you consider good but obviously everyones taste is different. If it sell well means it found a good amount of people that like it. And if it doesn't do well meaning there isn't enough people that like it period. Think twilight its god aweful to lot of people lot of people loved it or else they won't have made all the fcking movies. Thats not being lucky thats call being able to find an audience.

Ya they don't explode when if people say bad about about it once, they do when the same people repeat the same thing over and over and over again.

To be honest the whole thread is basically

Group A call it generic and boring and harem

Group B defend it saying it takes time to build up and gets better later one.

And should have ended basically there 2 point of view but Group A basically keep coming back and say the same thing over and over again. Yes the first ep of the Anime wasn't that great, I didn't think it was that good either. But you can't exactly say the rest will be bad either, speically when we kept bring up the point it takes time to build up. But hey they can totally fuck it up too but at this point and time it can go both ways and constantly coming here and saying it won't well isn't really helping anything.

RexZShadow said:

We have accepted that, no one is trying to convert the people who already have their mind set in stone about what this will be like. The issue is the same people keep coming back saying the same thing over and over again to turn off possible viewers.

iFourier said:
As a person who read all LNs and actually like the series I can only say:

This fanatism is pissing me off. This kids don't even have arguments. Actually the arguments against this show are better than the ones the "royal guard" is presenting.

I just don't get why this has 41 pages of flame. The series "might" be good, but then its not that great either. So many plotholes in my opinion.

iFourier said:
As a person who read all LNs and actually like the series I can only say:

This fanatism is pissing me off. This kids don't even have arguments. Actually the arguments against this show are better than the ones the "royal guard" is presenting.

I just don't get why this has 41 pages of flame. The series "might" be good, but then its not that great either. So many plotholes in my opinion.

iFourier said:


the fact that miyuki wants to get in bed with tatsuya is clear. It may be one sided but the fact that they might end up together because of some family crap with "we better make tats happy or else he'll betray us" - as seen in volume 8 - is serious shit. why ? tats is OP.

RexZShadow said:

No its not, you read it yourself, the noval being repeative so far that Miyuki doesn't seek a physical relation ship with Tatsuya. There some fan service but thats where they stand on it. And vol 8 kinda tell everyone pretty clearly why Miyuki act the way she does. Also they don't end up together to keep Tatsuya happy, he being Miyuki bodyguard for a long time(decision made by his mother). They said that Miyuki has to become the head of the family to keep Tatsuya from betraying them, nothing about keeping him happy but using Miyuki to exploit him.

Fai said:
Well this was downright unbearable and had to quit watching midway through episode. Watching a full episode most likely would turn people suicidal.

Its like every single shittiest cliche of generic shounen anime stuck together with the most generic character designs and the most bland premise possible.

I honestly can't fathom even a single redeeming element of this trainwreck.

Dropped

1/10

Dragon_Slayer_X said:

You two realize that you are giving out spoilers and misinformation in the anime discussion thread right? Use the damned spoiler tags.

Also iFourier, go back and read volume 1-5 again without depending on spoilers so you can clear your own wrong assumptions. But if you want to have fun then that's another case but for please put those stuff in a spoiler............this isn't related to episode 1 discussion at all.

Sapewloth said:
Welp, to be honest I don't have much to say about that first episode. The whole 'onii-sama' bsnss was near unbearable and I dislike the male lead's attitude (even though he's competent... and easy on the eyes) but other than that no major complaints.
I guess the info dump was needed in order to introduce the mechanics of the universe so it's fine by me.

Nice OST so far, even though I think Taku did a better job on Noragami (at least when I compare both shows' first episodes), but we have yet to hear the rest of the soundtrack so I'll put my first impression on hold for now.
Fine animation, as expected from studio Madhouse : fight scenes look great and so do the different magic devices/effects.

Not particularly impressed, but I'm gonna stick around to see how things go.

mg021 said:
episode 2 thread is coming. I'm looking forward to reading it; popcorn is ready :P

Skyray said:


Hmmmm, it seems like you're more interested in reading the thread regarding episode 2 than the episode itself. :)

iFourier said:

I read spoilers about character background after dropping the LN after reading half of the first volume.
Then I started reading from volume 6. After done with everything up to 11 I read volumes 3 to 5. Afterwards I decided to read the volume 12 and after I was done with this one I read volume 2. Volume 1 sucks.
I read everything.

But then you're just a kid/fanboy who hates when other people express their opinions about your favourite anime. One of the guys even said :" LN was bad, ep 1 is kinda good". And you pretty much started a war with him.
You fanatic kids piss me off so much. You can't even express your opinion in a public forum anymore without fanboys bashing on it even thouhg you're just bashing the incenst on the series.

AKAxTOMO said:
I haven't read the light novel so I am sorry if the following annoys the people who are knowledgeable with the story, but I am very confused as to why Tatsuya was running behind Miyuki using magic when they were going to the temple. I mean, I thought he was trying so very hard to hide his powers. I guess what Tatsuya was using was just modern technology of some sort and had nothing to do with the abilities he is trying to hide?

AKAxTOMO said:
Very good animation, and since there is no potential main heroine yet, I am satisfied with yandere Miyuki. I'm especially excited to see that the hand to hand combat scene flowed really well. When the hand to hand combat is animated in such a manner, it's a good sign that we will get many good action scenes in this anime. The spell casting animation isn't falling behind and should blend in really well by the looks of it. Hopefully (´＾ω＾｀).

I haven't read the light novel so I am sorry if the following annoys the people who are knowledgeable with the story, but I am very confused as to why Tatsuya was running behind Miyuki using magic when they were going to the temple. I mean, I thought he was trying so very hard to hide his powers. I guess what Tatsuya was using was just modern technology of some sort and had nothing to do with the abilities he is trying to hide?

C'mon ep2... COME ON!!!

*Just found out now that there have been "info dumps"... Going to watch now to see if I can be enlightened.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:


Tatsuya wasn't trying to hide that he can use magic. He can use use magic but not as proficiently as others (the reasons are pretty heavy spoilers). The course 2 students lack in practical skills i.e. activation or casting time, interference power etc. They should explain it within the anime or in the shorts so you could check them out. They cut out some explanations there.........i will just leave them in a spoiler.

Emnay said:
couldn't have said it better myself

Fai said:


YEah, as I said somewhere else:

- Episode 1 was filled with every single most annoying harem anime cliche
- The cast consists of generic harem stereotype submissive females including a tomboy, a socialite and a shy childhood friend(who just happens to also be his sister), all of whom fawn over the gary stu lead while providing every single sexist trope possible.
- the lead male is bland guy with douchy hairstyle and unreasonable powers that everyone fawns over
- Its set in freaking highschool of magic. How much more generic can this get? All they now need to do is overdo falling down sakura petal sin every single scene.
- The character designs are infuriatingly generic. Finally Witch Craft Works is outdone in the most bland character designs area, which was kind of incredibly hard to achieve.
- Every single shounen genre trope possible so far - I fully expect silly fighting tournaments, bishonen villains and the male lead having to save his incesty sister from being helpless at the hands of an overpowered bishonen barelly-male villain. Bonus points if someone sprouts angel wings or grabs someone's boobs.

First ep literally reminded me of Clannad, Witch Craft Works, Hagure Yuusha no Estetica, Gundam Seed Destiny AND Aquarian evoL, ALL AT ONCE and doing that takes an impossible level of talent at screwing up.

Feelings about the show while watching the first episode jumped in between feeling uncomfortable, bored and infuriated at stupidity. The first episode did absolutely nothing out of ordinary nor anything that would hook me(even unbearable trainwrecks like Estetica had SOME kind of a hook to stay for second episode before giving up). And that's generally NOT a good sign for a show.

Its the ultimate mishmash of the most generic otaku-bait parts of anime industry. All it needs is bunch of lolis.

Marzan said:
Better than I expected to be honest. A strong male main character? There are so few of those that it's quite enjoyable when they do show up. And I like the world the whole concept of magic as science. I'll watch a couple of more chapters for sure and see how it evolves.

Anyone else notice that in the map, the East EU is to the west of the West EU? LOL.

Orsonius said:


http://i.imgur.com/bMWZAA9.png

Such fail.

Fai said:


YEah, as I said somewhere else:

- Episode 1 was filled with every single most annoying harem anime cliche
- The cast consists of generic harem stereotype submissive females including a tomboy, a socialite and a shy childhood friend(who just happens to also be his sister), all of whom fawn over the gary stu lead while providing every single sexist trope possible.
- the lead male is bland guy with douchy hairstyle and unreasonable powers that everyone fawns over
- Its set in freaking highschool of magic. How much more generic can this get? All they now need to do is overdo falling down sakura petal sin every single scene.
- The character designs are infuriatingly generic. Finally Witch Craft Works is outdone in the most bland character designs area, which was kind of incredibly hard to achieve.
- Every single shounen genre trope possible so far - I fully expect silly fighting tournaments, bishonen villains and the male lead having to save his incesty sister from being helpless at the hands of an overpowered bishonen barelly-male villain. Bonus points if someone sprouts angel wings or grabs someone's boobs.

First ep literally reminded me of Clannad, Witch Craft Works, Hagure Yuusha no Estetica, Gundam Seed Destiny AND Aquarian evoL, ALL AT ONCE and doing that takes an impossible level of talent at screwing up.

Feelings about the show while watching the first episode jumped in between feeling uncomfortable, bored and infuriated at stupidity. The first episode did absolutely nothing out of ordinary nor anything that would hook me(even unbearable trainwrecks like Estetica had SOME kind of a hook to stay for second episode before giving up). And that's generally NOT a good sign for a show.

Its the ultimate mishmash of the most generic otaku-bait parts of anime industry. All it needs is bunch of lolis.

iFourier said:

Dark_Lord said:
I don't know how to feel about this episode. It's not that interesting right now, hopefully it gets better later on.

MasterMeNL said:
Oh god, dat wincest.
How did this get 26 episodes? Maybe it's so hipster that it's hipsterness became the hipster of hipster.
Hopefully it gets better soon™.