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Jan 11, 2014 7:44 AM
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It always confuses me because the only legal streaming sites don't release torrents and horrible subs just directly rip from crunchy roll who you are meant to pay to watch most series (some are free).
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Jan 11, 2014 7:49 AM
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What's the problem here
Jan 11, 2014 7:50 AM
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What's the problem here


Well people comment on the HorribleSubs releases under subgroups on anime pages saying they're legal, but they're not.
Jan 11, 2014 7:51 AM
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Because they're faggots. HS is not legal just like any other group.
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Jan 11, 2014 7:53 AM
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Legal.
Jan 11, 2014 7:57 AM
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I don't see the big problem. It's not like we're supporting some terrorist group. All they do is put subtitles on anime, who cares if it's not their own.
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Jan 11, 2014 7:59 AM
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But is it a proven fact or just an assumption?
Jan 11, 2014 8:05 AM
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Crunchy isn't available all around the world and many series are North America only. It's a great source to download anime but they are NOT legal, just like any other fansub group, even though they just rip the translation.
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Jan 11, 2014 8:28 AM
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Legal stuff is just not as delicious as the Jailbait ;D;D;D;D
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Jan 11, 2014 8:30 AM

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Orsonius said:
Legal stuff is just not as delicious as the Jailbait ;D;D;D;D

I can confirm this and I call worth.
Jan 11, 2014 8:31 AM

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Orsonius said:
Legal stuff is just not as delicious as the Jailbait ;D;D;D;D


+ who the hell cares...pay for CR and be happy, not everyone is ready to pay for japanese cartoon characters.

Deal with it.
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Jan 11, 2014 9:12 AM

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Or maybe they're just trolling like 90% of the internet does in general?
Jan 11, 2014 9:33 AM

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missunify said:
It always confuses me because the only legal streaming sites don't release torrents and horrible subs just directly rip from crunchy roll who you are meant to pay to watch most series (some are free).
Which series on CR do you have to pay to watch, regardless of when you watch them?

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Zalis said:
missunify said:
It always confuses me because the only legal streaming sites don't release torrents and horrible subs just directly rip from crunchy roll who you are meant to pay to watch most series (some are free).
Which series on CR do you have to pay to watch, regardless of when you watch them?


Pandora hearts and I think rurouni kenshin
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Cupquake said:
Zalis said:
missunify said:
It always confuses me because the only legal streaming sites don't release torrents and horrible subs just directly rip from crunchy roll who you are meant to pay to watch most series (some are free).
Which series on CR do you have to pay to watch, regardless of when you watch them?


Pandora hearts and I think rurouni kenshin
I did not know about those, but note the involvement of NISA and Aniplex USA with those -- they're not just CR. Either way, a few shows from a couple of sub-licensing publishers (see also Arakawa Under the Bridge and Ghastly Prince Enma from NISA) are far from the "most series" that missunify is claiming you have to pay to watch.

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Jan 11, 2014 10:04 AM
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Fan Subbers are often insecure because they know they are crooked.
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Pff who cares, they provide most of us with subs.
Jan 11, 2014 10:18 AM

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Hisio said:
Pff who cares, they provide most of us with subs.

Fifa streamers say (when they promove their sponsored coin sites ) : "They are cheap,quick and reliable". Well HS is free,quick and reliable.
If you can't and want to buy anime then please do so,some can't watch Crunchyroll and don't have the money (or anime doesn't even sell in their country) to buy anime.
Jan 11, 2014 10:24 AM

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they are certainly not legal. they just rip off crunchyrolls subs because of how fast crunchyroll releases their content
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Jan 11, 2014 10:28 AM

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According to my understanding no fansub groups are legal? Or have I missed something?
Jan 11, 2014 10:31 AM

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They are obviously joking.
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According to my understanding no fansub groups are legal? Or have I missed something?


nope you are correct they all illegally distribute anime.
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Jan 11, 2014 10:35 AM

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Pff who cares, they provide most of us with subs.


we care because they are hurting the industry by pretending to be legal thus making fewer people go to the actual legal source which may i remind you is a free service
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mattbenz99 said:
cupc said:
According to my understanding no fansub groups are legal? Or have I missed something?


nope you are correct they all illegally distribute anime.

Anyone who supports such groups deserve to be burned at the stake.
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I guess ill just watch more dubbed anime then :]
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I guess ill just watch more dubbed anime then :]


http://www.funimation.com/

all of funimation's dubs available for only $8 a month
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Wha- horriblesubs rips subs from crunchyrolll?
This is the first I've heard of this.

The last time I've seen, they actually released their translations even more than a day from crunchyroll. How can they rip if it's a few days before crunchyroll even airs the episode?
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Wha- horriblesubs rips subs from crunchyrolll?
This is the first I've heard of this.

The last time I've seen, they actually released their translations even more than a day from crunchyroll. How can they rip if it's a few days before crunchyroll even airs the episode?


i dont see how that is even possible because crunchyroll releases their anime in just an hour after it airs in japan. so it is impossible for any fansuber to release content faster than crunchyroll. also yes they do rip of crunchyroll subs
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mattbenz99 said:
MagicFlier said:
Wha- horriblesubs rips subs from crunchyrolll?
This is the first I've heard of this.

The last time I've seen, they actually released their translations even more than a day from crunchyroll. How can they rip if it's a few days before crunchyroll even airs the episode?


i dont see how that is even possible because crunchyroll releases their anime in just an hour after it airs in japan. so it is impossible for any fansuber to release content faster than crunchyroll. also yes they do rip of crunchyroll subs

There is even a case already that happened this season. Sakura Trick was released subbed by [Mezashite] for I think more than 8-12 hours at least prior to crunchyroll's airing time. The raw simply came out very quickly and they simply subbed it within 30 minutes to an hour is what I'm assuming.

Same goes with Monogatari Series 2nd season. Subs were released for the last few episodes a few weeks before crunchyroll aired them.

If Crunchyroll airs the episode 30 minutes after Japan's airing time, then I don't know what to think anymore...
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MagicFlier said:
mattbenz99 said:
MagicFlier said:
Wha- horriblesubs rips subs from crunchyrolll?
This is the first I've heard of this.

The last time I've seen, they actually released their translations even more than a day from crunchyroll. How can they rip if it's a few days before crunchyroll even airs the episode?


i dont see how that is even possible because crunchyroll releases their anime in just an hour after it airs in japan. so it is impossible for any fansuber to release content faster than crunchyroll. also yes they do rip of crunchyroll subs

There is even a case already that happened this season. Sakura Trick was released subbed by [Mezashite] for I think more than 8-12 hours at least prior to crunchyroll's airing time. The raw simply came out very quickly and they simply subbed it within 30 minutes to an hour is what I'm assuming.

Same goes with Monogatari Series 2nd season. Subs were released for the last few episodes a few weeks before crunchyroll aired them.

There had to be a leak somewhere. You got the anime before it even aired on tv. This recently happened with space dandy where a hacker released the first episode on the internet even before it aired on tv
Just because you know how to use a torrent does not give you the god given right to pirate.

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mattbenz99 said:
MagicFlier said:
mattbenz99 said:
MagicFlier said:
Wha- horriblesubs rips subs from crunchyrolll?
This is the first I've heard of this.

The last time I've seen, they actually released their translations even more than a day from crunchyroll. How can they rip if it's a few days before crunchyroll even airs the episode?


i dont see how that is even possible because crunchyroll releases their anime in just an hour after it airs in japan. so it is impossible for any fansuber to release content faster than crunchyroll. also yes they do rip of crunchyroll subs

There is even a case already that happened this season. Sakura Trick was released subbed by [Mezashite] for I think more than 8-12 hours at least prior to crunchyroll's airing time. The raw simply came out very quickly and they simply subbed it within 30 minutes to an hour is what I'm assuming.

Same goes with Monogatari Series 2nd season. Subs were released for the last few episodes a few weeks before crunchyroll aired them.

There had to be a leak somewhere. You got the anime before it even aired on tv. This recently happened with space dandy where a hacker released the first episode on the internet even before it aired on tv

Hmm.. that makes sense. At least everyone should understand that not all fansubbers rip off official releases. That's the part I have a problem about. I won't speak for all fansubbers, but I know there are those out there that actually put work for better translations. Before someone starts saying the subs were ripped, at least compare the subs to confirm it. I know various fansubbers who really but a lot of work into creating better translations because some translations are either too embellished or too literal. Sometimes CR gets it right, but they can really 'derp' most of the time.
Jan 11, 2014 11:27 AM

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Without those subbers, it would've been difficult to watch a lot of anime. Those legal sites don't have everything, which is why we rely on those others.

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i would actually pay for CR if had the shows that I want to watch! and anime that i enjoy i have gone out of my way to buy the proper DVD's and have a sizeable collection i see it as a 'try before you buy' yeah technically HS aren't legal but there not doing anything major bad lets face it
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MagicFlier said:
mattbenz99 said:
MagicFlier said:
mattbenz99 said:
MagicFlier said:
Wha- horriblesubs rips subs from crunchyrolll?
This is the first I've heard of this.

The last time I've seen, they actually released their translations even more than a day from crunchyroll. How can they rip if it's a few days before crunchyroll even airs the episode?


i dont see how that is even possible because crunchyroll releases their anime in just an hour after it airs in japan. so it is impossible for any fansuber to release content faster than crunchyroll. also yes they do rip of crunchyroll subs

There is even a case already that happened this season. Sakura Trick was released subbed by [Mezashite] for I think more than 8-12 hours at least prior to crunchyroll's airing time. The raw simply came out very quickly and they simply subbed it within 30 minutes to an hour is what I'm assuming.

Same goes with Monogatari Series 2nd season. Subs were released for the last few episodes a few weeks before crunchyroll aired them.

There had to be a leak somewhere. You got the anime before it even aired on tv. This recently happened with space dandy where a hacker released the first episode on the internet even before it aired on tv

Hmm.. that makes sense. At least everyone should understand that not all fansubbers rip off official releases. That's the part I have a problem about. I won't speak for all fansubbers, but I know there are those out there that actually put work for better translations. Before someone starts saying the subs were ripped, at least compare the subs to confirm it. I know various fansubbers who really but a lot of work into creating better translations because some translations are either too embellished or too literal. Sometimes CR gets it right, but they can really 'derp' most of the time.


have you seen fansubs for shows that dont have official subs? they are terrible. heck the steins gate movie had fansubs since like august but me and everyone else waited to watch it till december because of how bad all the subs were. this is because most fansubbers use the official subs as a reference. so no official subs means that the fansubs will suck
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mattbenz99 is at it again.

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Without those subbers, it would've been difficult to watch a lot of anime. Those legal sites don't have everything, which is why we rely on those others.

crunchyroll is getting close to having 400 anime and funimation.com has over 200. together that is 600 anime that you can watch for free legally and that is without counting the anime network or hulu or whatever other legal stream out there but if i were to make a quick estimation i would say there is at least a thousand anime available for free legal stream
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mattbenz99 is at it again.

run 4 ur lief11!


at what? telling people not to be dicks and and actually support the industry they claim to love? you stupe to making a joke about me because you have no arguments that can prove me wrong because you know that you are in the wrong
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These threads sure can get creative in their choice of topic. I find them utterly useless, no question about that, but I commend the creativity.
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Most of the comments on groups are stupid and aren't worth reading.
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I make the joke because you did this in the last thread regarding piracy

Every other post being your post saying the same thing over and over and over.

And over.

Also, over and over.

There is preaching the truth and everything, yeah, but learn when to give it a damn break dude. Hopefully you've figured out by now that the only answers you are going to get are ones that were already set in stone for them, like, "Yea I agree, piracy is bad and I should support the industry as much as I can!" or "I don't fucking care and there's nothing you can say to change my mind."

I'm sick of seeing your shitty, low quality Demotivational-Poster of an avatar every other post not giving these threads any breathing room whatsoever. Everyone pretty much understands your stance on it, so I'm hella confused why you won't give it a break already. Nobody likes anyone who preaches too much. I know people who will on purposely do the opposite of what people ask BECAUSE they are annoying. I saw your posts just now and legit started considering to not renew my CR membership because your spam pisses me off so much.
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I make the joke because you did this in the last thread regarding piracy

Every other post being your post saying the same thing over and over and over.

And over.

Also, over and over.

There is preaching the truth and everything, yeah, but learn when to give it a damn break dude. Hopefully you've figured out by now that the only answers you are going to get are ones that were already set in stone for them, like, "Yea I agree, piracy is bad and I should support the industry as much as I can!" or "I don't fucking care and there's nothing you can say to change my mind."

I'm sick of seeing your shitty, low quality Demotivational-Poster of an avatar every other post not giving these threads any breathing room whatsoever. Everyone pretty much understands your stance on it, so I'm hella confused why you won't give it a break already. Nobody likes anyone who preaches too much. I know people who will on purposely do the opposite of what people ask BECAUSE they are annoying. I saw your posts just now and legit started considering to not renew my CR membership because your spam pisses me off so much.


although you do make some decent points i know for a fact that i have gotten more people buying legal than making people stop buying legal (if any at all because you dont just stop doing buying legally because someone annoys you). also with the amount of people who scream "why buy something you can get for free" you need to have at least some people who scream back how stupid that logic us or else the conversation will shift away from the legal streams and dvds and any new viewer will simply not even know that they exist. i know this is true because i was one of those people. i pirated anime not because i didnt want to pay but because i didnt know a legal option exists and no one around me ever talked about it. it wasnt until i watched anime for 5 and a half years that i finally someone mentioned dvds and legal streams and did some research on my own and found out that anime dvds and legal streams do exist and i quickly became legal only. heck now whenever i talk to someone who is new to anime now and i mention dvds and legal streams they always seem to have mis information on the topic so i explain to them that no dvds do not cost a giant amount of money and legal streams do have a free service and they almost always end up going the legal route from then onwards.
so that is why i insist on always bringing up the legal option.

i hope that makes some kind of sense.
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Trying insisting just a tiny bit less then and give these threads some breathing room.

It's great you want to help people make the right decision, but metaphorically shoving that option down people's throats is an inefficient way to make your point. Ease up slightly and everyone wins, because even the people you don't address directly will see your posts and the points you make.
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They're fast so why bother ?

Illegal ?! , don't make me puke rainbow. It's not like other fansub groups are legal lol.
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Korrvo said:
I'm sick of seeing your shitty, low quality Demotivational-Poster of an avatar every other post not giving these threads any breathing room whatsoever.


Lmaoooo funniest thing i've read in a while hahahahahaha xD
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@mattbenz99
You always go on about legal anime streaming yet you have Elfen Lied under your favourite manga

I know for a fact Elfen Lied manga is only available in german, spanish, italian and japanese meaning you most likely read it illegally

That makes everything you've ever said about piracy hypocritical
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Korrvo said:
I'm sick of seeing your shitty, low quality Demotivational-Poster of an avatar


oh and by the way i chose this avatar because i like the picture. i couldnt care less what it says under the picture
Just because you know how to use a torrent does not give you the god given right to pirate.

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You always go on about legal anime streaming yet you have Elfen Lied under your favourite manga

I know for a fact Elfen Lied manga is only available in german, spanish, italian and japanese meaning you most likely read it illegally

That makes everything you've ever said about piracy hypocritical

it is unlicensed. i always say that is the exception. if it doesnt exist in your country then i am not going to force you to import it from somewhere else or make you not watch it.
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You always go on about legal anime streaming yet you have Elfen Lied under your favourite manga

I know for a fact Elfen Lied manga is only available in german, spanish, italian and japanese meaning you most likely read it illegally

That makes everything you've ever said about piracy hypocritical


His point is that you should try to help the anime medium as much as you can. If it's unlicensed you can't do anything about it.

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Korrvo said:
I'm sick of seeing your shitty, low quality Demotivational-Poster of an avatar


oh and by the way i chose this avatar because i like the picture. i couldnt care less what it says under the picture
Crop it?
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Korrvo said:
JD2411 said:
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You always go on about legal anime streaming yet you have Elfen Lied under your favourite manga

I know for a fact Elfen Lied manga is only available in german, spanish, italian and japanese meaning you most likely read it illegally

That makes everything you've ever said about piracy hypocritical


His point is that you should try to help the anime medium as much as you can. If it's unlicensed you can't do anything about it.

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Korrvo said:
I'm sick of seeing your shitty, low quality Demotivational-Poster of an avatar


oh and by the way i chose this avatar because i like the picture. i couldnt care less what it says under the picture
Crop it?

eh that sounds like work and i am lazy
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